LogicStrikesAgain

I really dont know, as its impossible to gauge how Sony does these things nowadays, but i certainly hope so!

It seems doubtful they’d have a big show so close to TGS. But on the other hand, if they will focus on 1st party it might work, since those games wouldn't be revealed at TGS in the first place.

All in all, it would be very fitting and coincide well with their 30th Anniversary. Do the right thing, Sony! 😉

@Friendly Wouldn't it be a good thing for a business to grow? Are you suggesting they become stagnant?

Metal Gear Solid.

@Haruki_NLI You we’re ahead of your time bro, they couldn’t handle your brainpower 😉

@Medic_alert Yes i agree, this doesn't sound cheap. I can see it falling anywhere around the $399 to €499 range. But fair, compared to similar devices. It will also depend on what Nintendo is going to ask for the Switch 2, as future handhelds will have to be competitively priced against it.

@Shepherd_Tallon It would be cool if they release a version that has even just 128Gb storage. To install PS1 and PS2 games. Some kind of streaming/retro handheld device. I can imagine a Portal version with a Led screen and a little bit of storage for around $249.

A version that could play PS4 games locally does sound cool, but that will be a much more sophisticated version than this, needing far better specs. I would buy it in a second, though.

I would definitely be interested, even at the price point of around $399 to $499.

A handheld that can play PS6 games natively with reduced fidelity sounds awesome, throw in steam compatibility and its a done deal.

I can imagine a PS6 for around €599 to €649 and a PS6 handheld for around the aforementioned prices.

And in addition keep the cheap streaming only handheld option for $199. Thereby having options for a wider range of budgets.

@SleeplessKnight Thats too bad, but as i understand there also have been many other improvements since then. Maybe, it has gotten better now. Apparently this update also fixed stutter issues it had. I dunno, im going in fresh, only experience I have with streaming is through the console. Im just stoked to play games on a handheld with incredible controls.

@SleeplessKnight And there you go, just 2 mins after my last comment, we have another satisfied costumer. Reactions seems to be pretty positive on the whole. Im telling you man, you may need to try it again after all these updates, i know i will.

@SleeplessKnight Well, i stream on the PS5 all the time and i can hardly distinguish from playing natively. It basically feels the same to me. Granted i don't play any CoD or anything.

But there are more videos on youtube by people testing games and being very impressed. Actually, the overwhelming response, even in this comment section, seems to be that it’s working very well. So yeah, maybe its just not for you, and thats ok!

@RadioHedgeFund Yes, i believe so!

@SleeplessKnight There’s actually a video in this article where Aaron is testing a few games. As you can see it plays very well.

And well, if you don't like it, it’s not for you i guess.

Im also interested in the rumoured handheld they’re making.

@RadioHedgeFund Yup!

@Th3solution Ikr, there really isn't anything like it on the market in terms of control and how it feels in the hands. Its basically a full controller, including haptics and all, no other handheld really compares to this.

I dunno, if i was Sony, i would market the heck out of this. It’s a $199 PS streaming handheld. 🤯

@NomNom I agree! But if those studios already make a boatload of money, im pretty sure Sony wont shut them down. I don't think Sony has a problem with keeping those studios multiplat.

@NomNom Ohh, in that case i hope they wont shut them down either! Sony really needs some of these smaller creative studios

@KidRisky Everyone with PS Plus premium can try the beta.

@zeppray57 Yeah, good suggestion! I second that

@tomassi No, you’re good man! Yeah i get what you mean, maybe the rumoured upcoming PS handheld has the ability to play games natively, at least i hope so!

@get2sammyb With this new function though, i dont see the Portal as only an accessory anymore. Its its own streaming device now, which can be used independently of the console. Something like a Nvidia shield, but a handheld.

I really think if this beta test goes well and they add the whole PS Plus library they can really market this as something unique. Even though its streaming only. It may be a bit niche, but there isn't really anything like it on the market at this price point. At least, to my knowledge.

@Dampsponge My bad, i misunderstood your comment. Thought u were addressing the fact they get revenue for it, but your focus was on the streaming part instead of owning.

Just want to say, i understand, however this just give options to people who are fine with only streaming games and dont particularly care to own things. Both can exist at the same time, some people have other preferences. Thats why things like the Nvidia shield exist.

@misak192 Yes, that will work. As long as you have an internet connection to connect to the cloud.

@Dampsponge This is a streaming device, you cant own anything on it. You can play the games you own with it though. That is the main function it released with. Its called remote play.

If you want to own your games, they offer many other options. This however is a handheld device, specifically for cloud streaming. This gives flexibility for people who might like to get into the Playstation ecosystem for a low price of entry.

@Dampsponge People out here want everything for free. How would Sony even be able to offer this service if people aren't going to pay for it?

The device is $199, its one of the cheapest ways to get in to the Playstation ecosystem. And to get in any ecosystem for that matter.

Maybe show us where streaming games is free, that might be a great help to some of us 👌🏼

@tomassi Way wrong bro, its like you havent even read what the update is.

You don't need to connect to your PS5 anymore. And dont need to be in your house. This is not remote play. Its basically like Xbox cloud, but with its own dedicated Playstation handheld.

And yes, it would be possible to play in all those places. Granted, their wifi needs to be fast enough. Minimum of 7mbps is needed.

@NomNom Why would they? I wonder what that worry is based on? I hear some people saying that. I genuinely don't know, Im not really familiar with that studio. Do their games not sell well? Or are they underperforming in any way?

@Savage_Joe Don't worry, it will be reviewed by the proper regulatory bodies to see whether this will create a monopoly or not. And if it does, they will either have to cancel the deal, or change the deal so that it will not give Sony a monopoly.

If people have any arguments or can demonstrate how it will actually create a monopoly, maybe that would be more interesting than just shouting these empty claims though.

@LavenderShroud I always stream when i use PS Plus on the console, so do my kids. It works perfectly for me, i dont notice any glitches at all. I dont have particularly fast internet, and im not even connected with Lan, just through wifi.

I started to try streaming a few months ago actually, cause i wanted to test a few games, but i didn't want to wait for them to download. I was honestly surprised how well it works. Now, I don't even bother downloading games anymore. Granted, some games might be too fast paced or need very low latency. But yeah you should definitely try it out for yourself.

@get2sammyb Thanks for the hands-on. This is so awesome! Not that i needed any convincing. Im planning on getting a Portal soon! 😁

@Friendly Im not necessarily defending Sony, im just saying, from a business standpoint, what they’re doing makes sense.

So you agree with MS growing their business, but not with Sony doing the same?

You mention Sony layoffs, but why the focus on Sony? These layoffs are industry wide, and while Sony is the largest publisher, they didn't even have the most layoffs compared to others.

Im confused by your arguments, you're strongly against consolidation and layoffs. But seem much milder on ur critique of MS, which consolidated a big portion of the industry, and made many lay offs after the deal.

Somehow you are sure that this deal will lead to many lay offs. Why do you have such a hyperfocus on Sony? You praise MS for keeping everything multiplat, which is not entirely true. And Sony in general, seems to keep things multiplat more than Microsoft.

Bottom line, it find ironic the condescending way you speak of Sony and its fanbase when you come across as having a strong bias yourself.

If you're so against all these ‘bad companies’, why not focus on bigger fish? These are hardly the most evil corporations out there. Consolidation happens in any industry, If you’re so against it and its effects, why not put ur focus on some of those larger corporations who are doing much worse. Im wondering what your fight really is here?

@Friendly “And because of the scale of their move, it influenced other players to react to the changes in the competitive landscape.”

Just want to add to that. This might also be applicable to the fanbase. People who might have been against consolidation during the Actiblizz deal, may have changed their stance since the deal passed. It was such a bold and impactful move that some people might now feel that if Sony cant avoid consolidation, they might as well embrace it, every company out for themselves. And that might be why you encounter all this “hypocrisy “.

@Friendly Well, these companies don't care about our preferences unfortunately. And to be fair, consolidation happens in most industries, especially as they mature. And the gaming industry is a bloated one. Microsoft has made its moves, and people can feel one way or the other about it. It still happened. And because of the scale of their move, it influenced other players to react to the changes in the competitive landscape.

Sony probably thinks since MS made such unprecedented deals, they can at the very least buy a few small publishers here and there. And i understand them, and they should. Cause who knows which companies are eyeing these publishers now. There are many companies with far deeper pockets than Sony, who might also be interested in snatching up some of these publishers, some of which own very valuable IP.

@RoomWithaMoose Well, this deal will be reviewed by regulatory bodies, to see if it indeed creates a monopoly(i doubt it) and whether it harms competition. We can all speculate about it, but there are people more qualified, who do this for a living, that will thoroughly review this deal.

As far as your frustration towards fanboys. I agree, some of them can be very ignorant and annoying. But that happens on both sides. A large demographic of the gaming industry is also pretty young, im guessing. That might explain some of the truncated views and unreasonable ways of arguing.

@Friendly @RoomWithaMoose Thats a bit unfair. There are normal acquisitions. And acquisitions of an unprecedented scale like the Actiblizz.

Are you saying Sony and other players in the industry should ignore this unprecedented deal and not make any moves for themselves, after Microsoft acquiring two of the biggest publishers?

@johnedwin What i meant was, he’s calling Sony greedy, but at the same time acknowledges that they’re not doing a remaster, which he believes will make a lot of money. So that must make Sony not as greedy as he implies. Im just trolling though. It just sounded like a bit of a funny contradiction to me.

@Lavishturtle “Amazing how greedy Sony is but they still won't remake Bloodborne which is an automatic pile of cash.”

Seems a bit contradictory, dont you think?

@tameshiyaku Web browsers? Do you mean on PC? Because Playstation Cloud is already available for PC

@Nopushonlybush That sucks man, i do hope Sony expands to your region as well. Actually dont understand why they still havent!

@IceClimbersMain Cloud streaming is so much better than Remote play though. First of all there’s no need for a console connection. You can access the cloud directly, similar to Xbox cloud gaming. Your connection with remote play is much more prone to disturbance, especially when playing from far away. Unless you only play in front of ur PS5, which kind of defeats the purpose of having a handheld in my opinion.
With remote play you’re also limited to the games you have installed on ur console.

Edit: Having read ur comment again, i may have misunderstood what you meant. You said you’d rather stream from ur PS5, did u mean you’d rather use Remote play? Atleast that what i thought u meant.

Edit: Never mind, you're saying you’d rather play native instead of stream, i must have misread. But if thats the case, why did you get the Portal?

I cant get over how cool this is, its basically a PS5 handheld! Ive been waiting for this update. Sony basically just created their own streaming handheld device. It went from being an accessory to a full fledged handheld capable of playing PS5 games.

Im sure eventually they’ll make it possible to play everything on PS Plus. Honestly, i don't care if its only streaming. My streaming works perfectly. Very excited about this! 😁

@Medic_alert Seriously? Wow, i dont have anywhere near 500mbps but my streams are always good. Never had a problem with it. Was actually pretty amazed how good it works. Now i mostly stream games in PS Plus, cause i dont wanna wait to download games anymore.

WTF!!!! Now that is cool! How are they bringing this so casual, as if its not a big deal. This is crazy good! We get PS5 gaming on a handheld. If the PS marketing didn’t suck, they would know how to deliver this. But damn, im in! I guess im buying a Portal 😄

@Friendly Yes, but we were discussing the possibility of a monopolistic move specific to the anime industry, and context is very important.

Kadokawa is conglomerate, their revenue comes from far more than just anime, they also have substantal revenue from things like real estate, video games and other businesses. So their revenue doesnt reflect their influence on the anime industry per se.

When i say i they aren't the biggest player in anime, im not talking about the size of their company. Im specifically talking about their production of anime titles.

That said, I’ll give it to you, im not sure about this one. Im not too familiar with the space, im guessing Toei and Studio Ghibli are bigger in anime. But i dont know for sure how they exactly rank among each other in terms of production. I guess we will see what the regulators think about this deal soon enough.

It looks cool, would love to see more of it. Hope to see some previews or hands on soon.

@Friendly You’re right. People were freaking out about the acquisition. But still, this acquisition is in no way compared with the Actiblizz deal. That was the biggest merger and acquisition, in the videogame industry, ever.

This deal is happening in the anime industry, which while big, is still a bit niche compared to the videogame industry, which is now worth about $200 billion. The influence Kadokawa has in anime isn't the same as the impact Activision has in gaming.

A big difference between these two deals and the question whether its a monopolistic move is the sheer scale and which companies are being bought.
Microsoft bought two of the biggest, and with Activision, the biggest 3rd party publisher in gaming.

Kadokawa on the other hand, isn't even the biggest player in anime. There are many more companies that have a bigger influence. Now if they were buying Toei Animation and Studio Ghibli, it might become a monopolistic move.

This deal however, seems unlikely to be considered monopolistic. But hey, i might be wrong. We will see what the regulatory bodies will have to say about it, if this deal even goes through.

@Friendly I appreciate your undoubtedly expert opinion. But how about we just let the regulatory bodies, whose job it is, determine whether this is a monopolistic move or not, shall we?

As far as who will benefit? Im guessing Kadokawa, since they are getting money for it. You act like these deals are being forced by Sony. Im assuming Kadokawa is voluntarily selling to them if this goes true. Especially reading that they are fearing a hostile takeover from a Korean company and want their company to remain in Japanese hands.

As far as what it will mean for the anime space, im way too unfamiliar with that space to have an opinion on it. Good thing there are regulatory agencies, far better equipped than me to assess these things and the impact it might have,

@Friendly “So what I feel that you’re saying: Sony’s a good guy only”

That is a far too immature and simplistic statement to encompass my take on this situation, i encourage you to read my comments again.

Sonys last purchase before MS bought Zenimax and Activision, was Insomniac for $200 million. And yes Microsoft set the tone both by buying 2 of the biggest publishers in the world and spending amounts that not only shocked the gaming industry, but any industry outside of gaming as well.

Im not saying MS started making acquisition, i said they set the tone by aggressively acquiring major publishers.

Btw, if throwing strawmans and red herrings is your preferred way of arguing, i will have to politely decline going in a debate with u about this, thanks 🙏🏼

@PorkChopExpress No worries bro, i do that as well sometimes! 👊🏼

@3Above Part of the reasons why consolidation is happening. Smaller studios just don't have the capital to produce these large game budgets. $50 million might seem like a lot, but for modern triple A gaming its only the bare minimum. And the risk for some of these small studios if games don't sell to their target, can be catastrophic. And that target is just to break even. They need more to actually make some profit. A superb game like Alan Wake 2 hasn't even made them a profit yet.

Again, not saying im for consolidation.but im not surprised its happening. These smaller studios cant shoulder the financial risk of some of these games. As you say, the industry is cooked.

@Enuo Yep, same here!