LogicStrikesAgain

@EfYI You’re certain the people who say that stacked their subscriptions? Subscription stacking still isn’t free though, but i’ll revise my comment for you: “I got Netflix on sale so i watched this move for free” -Nobody

Better? Handling banter well makes you look good, after all 🙃

“I watched this for free on Netflix”

-Nobody

As a filmlover, i’m embarrassed to say i have never watched any of the Indiana Jones movies yet. They’re on my watchlist, just because they’re classics. But i just can’t get myself to watch them as they seem so corny and not really my thing. And it’s not because they’re older movies or anything, as i watch and enjoy films much older (oldest one dates back to the 1920s) So i don’t have any nostalgic connection towards this franchise like many seem to have, to be interested in this game. But who knows, i might just have to go back on this when i do eventually decide to watch the films

@JaxonH So this whole backlash against Digital Foundry by Nintendo fans, is actually all orchestrated by devious Sony fanboys brainwashing Nintendo fans?
You give Sony fanboys way too much credit 😂

@Buizel It is baiting a little bit, I agree! But it actually does in fact have something to do with PS consoles, it’s pretty much a big part of what this issue is about

@Buizel This whole issue is about Nintendo fans mad at Digital Foundry.

But somehow everything always leads back to blaming “Sony fanboys” 😂

Edit: Sony fans get blamed for a lot. Probably because they lead in quantity, but in my personal experience, some of the other platforms “fanboys” can be way more toxic.
At least on this site you also have plenty of fans giving Sony deserved critiques. In fact, sometimes, i feel Sony gets a harsher treatment overall, or gets hit by double standards more than other platforms

Those are just my observations though, even though i prefer PS, i couldn’t care less about console warring

@Hordak They might have biases, we all do, but the framerates and image quality of the games they review don’t 😉

People can’t handle DF stating facts. It’s the same as with the Pro, when DF says some games run quantifiably better with 60fps in stead of 30fps or with better ray tracing. People will yell “i cant see it”.

Yeah you might not see it, but it’s still measurably there.

They know what they’re taking about. If they’re concluding that some games on the Switch 2 are running approximately the same as on PS4, you just have to deal with it 🤷🏻‍♂️

People should relax, it’s also just the beginning of the console. Their games, especially first party Nintendo, will become way better than these first batch of ported 3rd party games

Grubb must be giddy with excitement right now that he got something right 😂

@naruball I agree, i don’t see it happening now either, however it is of course possible if they wanted to.
They could go all out and acquire or build new studios or work together with 3rd party developers to focus on exclusive support for this device.
It doesn’t have to be all triple A game support, a solid indie lineup would also be good.
Anyway, this is just my dream scenario, please don’t wake me up 😴😝

A Playstation portable with native gaming, streaming, a great exclusive launch line up, continued exclusive game support, easy ports of full PS5/PS6 games to this, cross buy games across their ecosystem system, power between a series S and PS5 (upscaled to 1080p60 with ray tracing), decent battery, good screen and a full sized controller for comfort for around $599 would be a definite day 1 purchase for me. But they need to get the software right! The games are whats most important.

This is all just pie in the sky, dont know if any of this is possible, but that would be my wish list

@GeeForce You’re right, that’s true. They probably mean PS5 Pro though. But at least they’re not referring to price as was alluded to in the post i reacted to

@Romans12 When they say “even better”, i don't think they're referring to purchase price. Whether you can see it or not, it is quantifiably better on PS5 Pro

Yeah, that sucks. Global recession incoming, if not already here. Times are crazy in general, hope we make it to a type 1 in time

Hmm, it looks pretty cool, but don’t know if its for me, will wait for reviews.

I’m also more interested in the Horizon thing they have cooking. Same as someone above, i’m interested when that will be revealed.

@ChrisDeku If thats the only negative from him, that does sound good

@KundaliniRising333 I’m just teasing you man, it wasn’t meant to be so serious. After a while it’s just a bit funny to me to see you there with the same take, everytime the Pro gets mentioned. I guess intent doesn’t always translate very well, but i didn’t mean to come across rude. You have a great weekend as well 👍🏼

@KundaliniRising333 You really won’t let any opportunity go to rag on the Pro and it’s price, will you? Lol

Do you also have trouble with people buying a $700 PC instead of a $500 PC for slightly better fidelity? Or a $1400 PC instead of $1200 for that matter? Or a Iphone Pro instead of the regular one?

Some people have the disposable income and just want better fidelity, at some point you just have to get over it 😅

@SMJ I agree, i also want more and they should do better. I just dont share the same dissatisfaction as you about what they have delivered so far and whats already announced so far. Their games still mostly outweigh other publishers in terms of quality and hype, at least in my opinion

@SMJ Why do only first party studio games count in your book? What about second and third party exclusives? While i do think they have delivered high quality first party games so far, first party games aren’t the only games that define a console generation.

And what exactly do you consider an “acceptable output”? PS1 and PS2 hardly had any first party games. Would you consider that an unacceptable output?

Also, most of the first party games they did deliver up until now weren’t only received well critically, many are even GOTY contenders and winners.

If you compare to other publishers, Nintendo focuses on smaller scale but more frequent releases, Xbox bought two publishers and now boasts a large output, but hardly had an output before that, Take Two hardly released anything the last few years except for their yearly sports games. I think you’re being overly critical on Sony and their output

@OldGamer999 Yeah, good point, i was wondering about that as well. It’s hard to settle on a date when they don’t know when GTA6 is gonna release. But at least now they know Mafia is coming in august. Seeing as Take Two probably doesn’t want this to be overshadowed by their own GTA, we can safely assume a Q4 release for GTA6?
So maybe August/September for Ghost of Yotei?

I’m interested in this game, hope to see more soon.

On another note, Take Two seems to be releasing a lot of their games in the second half of this year, wonder if that’ll work out well for them.

Can we infer from this that GTA6 will be somewhere around October/November then? I’m sure they also wouldn't want this game to be too close to that release

Just came here to like a bunch of comments, not much to add that hasn't been said already.

But yeah i agree, this is obviously targeting people who haven’t played the games yet and just discovered the series through the show. Also collectors and fans. I mean who cares, really? You dont have to buy it.

I went to a comic con last week, and the stuff people spend money on baffles me sometimes. But its their hobby damnit, let them enjoy it!

Also, these are two GOTY winners, and arguably the pinnacle of Sony games. For someone who havent played the games, this is a fair price for some of the best games of all time.

For comparison: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is still $60 in the Nintendo Shop, and that doesnt even include the extra tracks DLC, which costs another $25

GrubbStrikesAgain? @Jey887

Yeah, don't know what to think of this really, can’t say ‘Day One’ was anything more than mediocre

Hey Jogurt, i dont go make burgers where you work and then tell you how to make burgers

@Deljo I actually hope one of these live service games gets so big it shuts everyone up 😂

@Paramahansa Honestly, I’d be a bit annoyed too if they sarcastically said “such a great team” to my team.

And they’re not silent, it feels like Insomniac has been saying this quite a few times already lately.

They will show the game when they are ready. Who knows, maybe it’s planned for next year but they can’t show it until a later showcase, as not to interfere with marketing for titles coming out this year

@Rich33 Yeah, i vaguely remember reading something like that as well. Huge parts of the story were leaked. And seeing as this is a narrative focused game, you can’t fault them for wanting to change some things here and there

@djlard You think 4 years is a long development cycle? Thats like the bare minimum for a triple A game nowadays

You guys do realize they had a devastating hack, which leaked huge parts of the game and the story. That might have something to do with the delay? 🤷🏻‍♂️

I feel for Insomniac, the most prolific first party studio, getting so much heat for this. Meanwhile Elder Scrolls 6 was announced before this, i think?

Edit: Apparently, ES6 was announced in 2018 🤯

Not to mention Fable, Perfect Dark, State of Decay (2020) and Everwild (2019)

I dont see people ‘harassing’ those developers. Most are just ‘excited’ and ‘letting them cook’. Although it probably happens as well, we just dont hear about it as often as with Insomniac

I’m digging the art style so far. Pretty excited to see some gameplay!

Definitely interested! Bring it on! Finally some new first party game news

Yeah i’d watch it, better make it good, Sony. All those IPs mentioned in the article have so much potential! I really hope they don't F up

@RoomWithaMoose That’s what she said

@Member_the_game Honestly, to me, their articles don’t come off as defensive, per se. They may be looking at it from a more Playstation perspective, but thats only natural.

This particular article, while hilariously incomplete, just seems like a placeholder. And while some may find it a weird comparison. I think they just want to inform the PS audience of what the Nintendo hardware consists of, since it is one of the big 3 (consoles). But since they’re a Playstation centric website, they probably realised it’d be weird if they made an article purely focusing on Nintendo alone so they came up with this 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yeah, i dont think Sony is suddenly gonna start caring now, since Switch 1 has always done better than PS5.

I do think Sony should do a price cut for the Japanese market though, that price is too high

@Rhaoulos “Most powerful console” Hey, isn’t that Xbox’s line? 😂

“Full tech specs comparison” 😅

Did i find this useful? Unconfirmed

The fact that a Switch is now more expensive than a PS5 console (digital) really shines a new light on the value proposition of all these devices

Playstation will be sleeping fine tonight, no worries at all

I just can’t believe the PS5 (digital) is now cheaper than a Switch, thats nuts

@Rich33 Oh my, that is pretty steep, i wonder if Nintendo will get heat for it, since Sony has been preemptively getting flack for ‘possibly’ raising prices for a while now hehe.

(Although i do personally agree that game prices have stagnated a while and game development costs do warrant a price increase)

@DonJorginho They’re going to be $80? 😳 Lol, all this talk about PS jacking up prices if they don’t have competition and now Nintendo just beat them to it 😂

Nope, i’ll stick with my original Switch. Havent watched the stream, but checked the info afterwards, cool but i’m not quite sold. I’ll wait and see what Playstation and Xbox have in store for their handheld.

Funny how some thought the Switch 2 would be $399 or cheaper, i guess the Pro’s price doesn’t seem all that crazy anymore

Killzone 2&3 and Metal Gear Solid 4!

“To have surpassed the 1 million players in such a short space of time speaks volumes for the creativity and dedication of the entire team here at Rebellion.”

Marketing might have something to do with….. you know what? Never mind. Congratulations to the studio! 🥳

@RoomWithaMoose Sorry to drag this on, but i’m sure no one is gonna read this comment section anymore.

Just wanted to give a quick other example. The Xbox sister site just wrote an article where they call Atomfall a colossal succes. Its been tried by 1.5 million players so far after barely a week. Which is pretty good i guess.

However, the game has a rather average 75 metacritic score with a very mixed 65 userscore. Sales? No idea, probably not that high. Player retention? My guess? No one will even remember this game exists in a few months.

But somehow the amount of people trying a game is enough nowadays to equate with succes, colossal succes even. I really dont understand how such a small factor is now considered one of the most important numbers in deciding whether a game is a succes.

What if people who tried it, hated it? Don’t they factor such things in before calling it a succes? Im so weirded out by the use of this metric to define any kind of succes, it’s just so random and incomplete, to me at least

Yeah!! Go Hello Kitty Island Adventure 😍👍🏼

Slow and steady wins the race, so i’d lean to gradual rollout. Probably smarter for MS as not to create instant IP fatigue, but yeah im just guessing here. Everything all at once might also work. Anyway, not the most groundbreaking insight, but there you go 🙃

@RoomWithaMoose I just want to reiterate, that i’m happy for Kojima Studios for what they have achieved. Even if my replies might come across as if i’m not haha. Im really only debating on whether or not these numbers tell us much, not arguing against their excitement for reaching so many people with their game