@Ralizah You can literally apply that same example to a new Pokemon game. It will still sell gangbusters, regardless if there's some (like me) who don't play Pokemon. God of War is a solidified AAA title that will most certainly sell over 10 mil. Nod different than BotW 2, Pokemon, etc. Not saying you personally said anything to the contrary.
@Royalblues Wrong about the fighters. I'm an avid fighting gamer for well over 30 years. The PS5 controller is definitely good for them. I don't play a lot of shooters, but the ones I do play...it seemed good to me. I have a PS5, Series X, and a Switch.
I hear ya about your opinions. I just don't agree that the controller is bad though. It's not at all. It's just not your preference. I respect that.
@Godot25 No point going back and forth with you if you're simply not understanding the difference between the Tomb Raider situation and SFV. Last time I'm going to say this. The game was coming out on ALL platforms. The reason why Xbox paid for THEIR version to release first is because Phil wanted a game to compete with Uncharted 4. There's plenty of articles to research it on.
Seriously dude, I'm not sure why keep continuing to say the same thing when I explained why it was different. There are better examples of Sony money hatting that would be a much better comparison. I'm done with this though.
@Godot25 No it is not the same. Are you not comprehending what I'm saying?! Xbox paid for THEIR version of Tomb Raider to drop earlier. This not the same as the SFV situation at all. The SFV scenario is more akin to the Bayonetta 2 situation with Nintendo.
@Godot25 Correction...they co-funded the Xbox version and paid for timed exclusivity. It would have gotten released simultaneously on all platforms otherwise.
@Deityjester Don't want to participate in this console war thing going on here. However, you do know that FF7R was a timed exclusive, right?! Square is the one with the answers. Sony was pretty transparent about how long the exclusivity period ran.
Another thing....why do people like you keep bringing up SFV when it was Sony co funded the game. Why? Why would Sony have the game released elsewhere when they helped pay for it's development?! So you're okay with Dead Rising 3 being exclusive to Xbox because they paid for its development? What about Bayonetta 2? Nintendo should totally let Xbox and Playstation have the game on those consoles, right? Same premise here.
@GunValkyrian Who said Sony was tripping? You do know that Xbox isn't exempt from keeping games away the competition, right? Really not trying to defend Sony here, but they have been transparent on how their timed exclusives deals last. Xbox uses tactics to have you believe it's staying there on that platform.
If Cuphead was truly timed, why didn't Xbox say it was timed? Also the length (3 years) was crazy enough. Just using that one as an example. FF7R was only for a year. You would have to ask Square why FF7R isn't on Xbox.
I remember how bad it was during the 360 days where Xbox had all the deals in place and such. Now that Playstation is doing the same, they look like the bad guys. Well both companies are bad in that regard. Nintendo seems to be the only one that don't do crap like that. Well not often at least...
I'm surprised not one person said anything about Nintendo doing the same things, yet no one bats an eye. Specifically speaking about games like MK8, Super Mario Bros U, DK Tropical Freeze, etc.
I'm in the minority of folks that don't think TLoU is a cash crab. The price is horrendous and is probably the main reason for the cash grab label. So much work has went into it that it's essentially a regular PS5 game. Again, I don't agree with the price and will be waiting on a sale. Just like I did for GTAV.
I thought I was the only one having problems upgrading. I didn't know this was a worldwide issue. Yeah Sony needs to step up and get this right, or they're gonna suffer some mean consequences.
@themightyant Let's wait and see before we criticize (not saying you're doing that). I believe Sony will make it worthwhile or comparable to what Xbox has.
Wow Xbox had long timed exclusivity on this. Can't say nothing because PS doesn't it too. I've noticed that Xbox is getting more aggressive with timed exclusives on Japanese games.
I wish they would have released this like 2 weeks ago. Unfortunately for them, TMNT is taking up my time at the moment. I'll certainly get around to it as I love beat'em ups. The resurgence of the genre is certainly amazing.
@trafficfiveo Most certainly. I too have all 3 since 2002 (when I first started purchasing consoles on my own). Even currently with Switch, PS5, and Series X. That way I don't miss anything that.
@Sakisa It's not just this site though. Both PureXB and NL do it as well. Still I do believe that it was deliberate. Maybe not to watch the meltdowns, but the intent was there. If this was gonna be multiplat from the get go, why mention it hours later instead of at the time it was first announced? Again, RE4 R and SF6 is prime example. Yes I know 2 different devs.
@UltimateOtaku91 Right. I also think this was Xbox's strategy. Watch the meltdowns from the rival to make them look bad, then all of a sudden there's a mention from the devs that it's multiplat. Now had Sony did that with SF6 and RE4 Remake, the meltdowns would have been horrid...and rightfully so.
@AndyKazama It didn't mention Xbox at the event, but of you went to Capcom's site, it mentions Xbox. Not the same here. Atlus themselves have not mentioned any other platforms outside of Xbox and PC.
@anoyonmus Of course they paid for it to go on GamePass. I also believe that Xbox wants folks to play it first on GamePass rather anywhere else. Specifically meaning P3 and P4Golden. Its It's more than likely why no other platform was mentioned as of yet. Ain't no way Atlus just optimized a game strictly for Xbox and ignoring both Playstation and Nintendo....again where their core bases are at.
That's some bullcrap to be honest. While I'm glad others get to play this, it's pretty clear Xbox paid for timed exclusivity. No way in hell does a franchise like Persona miss Playstation AND Nintendo where it's core base is from. Strangely enough, every timed exclusive game that was announced recently (outside of FF7R) was transparent about if a game is timed or not from the get go.
@NEStalgia Nintendo definitely do this and no one bats an eye. I mean did DK Tropical Freeze even have extra content? Before the expansion, MK8 didn't either. Neither did Super Mario Bros Deluxe. Still, enthusiasts speaks with their wallets.
@NEStalgia I'd wager the output is the same on both Nintendo and Sony over the years. I really don't think Nintendo has more Altus titles as of recently.
@GADG3Tx87 Nope. Atlusnand Sony are a great fit already. More than the other 2. While I do agree Sega would fit quite nicely in the Nintendo realm, that would mean Atlus would be exclusive to Nintendo as well. I can't see that. I'd rather Atlus, erm...Sega, stay independent then. That way no one loses out.
Well if they were approached simultaneously, how would it have been exclusive to just Micorsoft? Even though Insomniac worked on one exclusive for Xbox, I doubt they would have had Insomniac make the game for them.
@truerbluer Bro! I'm wondering the same thing. This Bungie "acquisition" seems more like a partnership than anything. I personally wished that Sony never acquired them. An almost 4 billion dollar acquisition from one developer with one IP just seems too pricey. The optics on this is confusing to the average PS fan wondering where this benefits them.
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Re: Sonic Frontiers Up Against God of War Ragnarok This November
@liljazzy2 I'm from Cleveland as well. I'm well aware of what it means to be a Browns fan. 😂
Re: Sonic Frontiers Release Date Leaked, Launches the Day Before God of War Ragnarok
@Reeneman Lamepass....really?! Come on man.
Re: Sonic Frontiers Release Date Leaked, Launches the Day Before God of War Ragnarok
@Ralizah You can literally apply that same example to a new Pokemon game. It will still sell gangbusters, regardless if there's some (like me) who don't play Pokemon. God of War is a solidified AAA title that will most certainly sell over 10 mil. Nod different than BotW 2, Pokemon, etc. Not saying you personally said anything to the contrary.
Re: July 2022 NPD: Free-to-Play MultiVersus Tops Charts, PS5 Out in Front
@Royalblues Wrong about the fighters. I'm an avid fighting gamer for well over 30 years. The PS5 controller is definitely good for them. I don't play a lot of shooters, but the ones I do play...it seemed good to me. I have a PS5, Series X, and a Switch.
I hear ya about your opinions. I just don't agree that the controller is bad though. It's not at all. It's just not your preference. I respect that.
Re: July 2022 NPD: Free-to-Play MultiVersus Tops Charts, PS5 Out in Front
@nomither6 No one said anything about whether he likes it or not. My issue with that was that he said the controller was bad. It isn't.
Re: Pretty PS5, PS4 Platformer Kena: Bridge of Spirits Getting Massive Update
@playstation1995 I agree sir. They would be a great fit.
Re: July 2022 NPD: Free-to-Play MultiVersus Tops Charts, PS5 Out in Front
@Royalblues The controller is bad?! 🤔
Re: Sony Pulls Leaked Footage of PS5's Helldivers 2
@Voltan They all have leak problems of late.
Re: PS Plus Extra Games for August 2022 Available to Download Now
@nomither6 Sony never intended for it to be like GamePass though. Never did they say it would. Premium is a joke though. Everything else is superb.
Re: Microsoft Accuses Sony of Paying to Block Games from Xbox Game Pass
@Godot25 No point going back and forth with you if you're simply not understanding the difference between the Tomb Raider situation and SFV. Last time I'm going to say this. The game was coming out on ALL platforms. The reason why Xbox paid for THEIR version to release first is because Phil wanted a game to compete with Uncharted 4. There's plenty of articles to research it on.
Seriously dude, I'm not sure why keep continuing to say the same thing when I explained why it was different. There are better examples of Sony money hatting that would be a much better comparison. I'm done with this though.
Re: Microsoft Accuses Sony of Paying to Block Games from Xbox Game Pass
@Godot25 No it is not the same. Are you not comprehending what I'm saying?! Xbox paid for THEIR version of Tomb Raider to drop earlier. This not the same as the SFV situation at all. The SFV scenario is more akin to the Bayonetta 2 situation with Nintendo.
Re: Microsoft Accuses Sony of Paying to Block Games from Xbox Game Pass
@Godot25 Correction...they co-funded the Xbox version and paid for timed exclusivity. It would have gotten released simultaneously on all platforms otherwise.
Re: Random: We Want a Game Based on Sucker Punch Animator's Viral Tweet
Can we please get a new Sly game. Seriously....
Re: Microsoft Accuses Sony of Paying to Block Games from Xbox Game Pass
@Deityjester Don't want to participate in this console war thing going on here. However, you do know that FF7R was a timed exclusive, right?! Square is the one with the answers. Sony was pretty transparent about how long the exclusivity period ran.
Another thing....why do people like you keep bringing up SFV when it was Sony co funded the game. Why? Why would Sony have the game released elsewhere when they helped pay for it's development?! So you're okay with Dead Rising 3 being exclusive to Xbox because they paid for its development? What about Bayonetta 2? Nintendo should totally let Xbox and Playstation have the game on those consoles, right? Same premise here.
Re: PS Plus Extra, Premium PS5, PS4 Games for August 2022 Announced
@LazyLombax Same bro. It's bullcrap. Sony should definitely be scrutinized for this abysmal premium service. Absolute gutter trash.
Re: MultiVersus Has Reached More Than 10 Million Players Before It's Fully Launched
@WallyWest Didn't say they were bad. Just referring to your monetization statement.
Re: MultiVersus Has Reached More Than 10 Million Players Before It's Fully Launched
@WallyWest I mean that's pretty much all live service games. I'm enjoying it as well.
Re: Half of All Recent PS5 Sales Bundled with Horizon Forbidden West in UK
@AdamNovice Agreed. There will be a narrative now about PS5's demand factor is only contributed to bundle. Also HZ:FW will be included in that.
Re: Cult Fighting Game The Rumble Fish 2 Punches to PS5, PS4 Later This Year
@Blofse Out of the big 3, Playstation has thee most fighters. Should be your console of choice if you're a fan of fighting games.
Re: Sony Sounds Shook by Xbox's Activision Buyout, Says Call of Duty Has No Rival
@GunValkyrian Who said Sony was tripping? You do know that Xbox isn't exempt from keeping games away the competition, right? Really not trying to defend Sony here, but they have been transparent on how their timed exclusives deals last. Xbox uses tactics to have you believe it's staying there on that platform.
If Cuphead was truly timed, why didn't Xbox say it was timed? Also the length (3 years) was crazy enough. Just using that one as an example. FF7R was only for a year. You would have to ask Square why FF7R isn't on Xbox.
I remember how bad it was during the 360 days where Xbox had all the deals in place and such. Now that Playstation is doing the same, they look like the bad guys. Well both companies are bad in that regard. Nintendo seems to be the only one that don't do crap like that. Well not often at least...
Re: Soapbox: No Free PS5 Upgrade for Persona 5 Royal Is an Insult to Fans and the Game Itself
I'm surprised not one person said anything about Nintendo doing the same things, yet no one bats an eye. Specifically speaking about games like MK8, Super Mario Bros U, DK Tropical Freeze, etc.
I'm in the minority of folks that don't think TLoU is a cash crab. The price is horrendous and is probably the main reason for the cash grab label. So much work has went into it that it's essentially a regular PS5 game. Again, I don't agree with the price and will be waiting on a sale. Just like I did for GTAV.
Re: TMNT: Cowabunga Collection Kicks Shell on PS5, PS4 on 30th August
@mrraditch I was just thinking that. 😂
Re: Sony Remains Silent on Final Fantasy 7 Remake Intergrade PS Plus Issues
I thought I was the only one having problems upgrading. I didn't know this was a worldwide issue. Yeah Sony needs to step up and get this right, or they're gonna suffer some mean consequences.
Re: PS Stars' Digital Collectibles Are 'Definitely Not' NFTs, Sony Stresses
@PhhhCough I love the rewards program on Xbox. I got so much for doing little, as you said. My XBL paid for itself many times already..
@themightyant My point is that we should wait and see what it really does before passing judgement.
Re: PS Stars' Digital Collectibles Are 'Definitely Not' NFTs, Sony Stresses
@themightyant Let's wait and see before we criticize (not saying you're doing that). I believe Sony will make it worthwhile or comparable to what Xbox has.
Re: Rumour: PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for July 2022 Possibly Leaked
@Momoghal786 Don't expect this "new" PS Plus to be like GamePass. Only certain titles like Stray may get a day one release.
Re: Phantasy Star Online 2, New Genesis Announced for PS4 Release in August
Wow Xbox had long timed exclusivity on this. Can't say nothing because PS doesn't it too. I've noticed that Xbox is getting more aggressive with timed exclusives on Japanese games.
Re: PSA: PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Removed from the Service Aren't Yours to Keep
@PhhhCough 😂😂😂 Right!
Re: Mini Review: Final Vendetta (PS5) - Brutal Beat-'Em-Up Will Kick Your Ass
I wish they would have released this like 2 weeks ago. Unfortunately for them, TMNT is taking up my time at the moment. I'll certainly get around to it as I love beat'em ups. The resurgence of the genre is certainly amazing.
Re: Xbox Appeared to Embargo PS5, PS4 Versions of Some Showcase Games
@Sakisa Just like I said the day before yesterday about Xbox doing this on purpose. The only difference is there's proof now.
Re: Xbox Appeared to Embargo PS5, PS4 Versions of Some Showcase Games
See?! I knew it. That was the only plausible thing that made sense.
Re: Rappers from the Wu-Tang Clan Contributed to a Track for TMNT: Shredder's Revenge
We got some Wu Tang fans in here! Sweet!!!
Re: Persona 3 Portable, Persona 4 Golden Confirmed for PS5
@trafficfiveo Most certainly. I too have all 3 since 2002 (when I first started purchasing consoles on my own). Even currently with Switch, PS5, and Series X. That way I don't miss anything that.
Re: Persona 3 Portable, Persona 4 Golden Confirmed for PS5
@Sakisa It's not just this site though. Both PureXB and NL do it as well. Still I do believe that it was deliberate. Maybe not to watch the meltdowns, but the intent was there. If this was gonna be multiplat from the get go, why mention it hours later instead of at the time it was first announced? Again, RE4 R and SF6 is prime example. Yes I know 2 different devs.
Re: Persona 3 Portable, Persona 4 Golden Confirmed for PS5
@UltimateOtaku91 Right. I also think this was Xbox's strategy. Watch the meltdowns from the rival to make them look bad, then all of a sudden there's a mention from the devs that it's multiplat. Now had Sony did that with SF6 and RE4 Remake, the meltdowns would have been horrid...and rightfully so.
Re: Persona 3, 4, 5 Coming to PC and Xbox, No Mention of PlayStation
@nessisonett PC or Xbox? Or even both?
Re: Persona 3, 4, 5 Coming to PC and Xbox, No Mention of PlayStation
@AndyKazama It didn't mention Xbox at the event, but of you went to Capcom's site, it mentions Xbox. Not the same here. Atlus themselves have not mentioned any other platforms outside of Xbox and PC.
Re: Rumour: More Persona Games Could Be Coming to Consoles
@anoyonmus Of course they paid for it to go on GamePass. I also believe that Xbox wants folks to play it first on GamePass rather anywhere else. Specifically meaning P3 and P4Golden. Its It's more than likely why no other platform was mentioned as of yet. Ain't no way Atlus just optimized a game strictly for Xbox and ignoring both Playstation and Nintendo....again where their core bases are at.
Re: Rumour: More Persona Games Could Be Coming to Consoles
That's some bullcrap to be honest. While I'm glad others get to play this, it's pretty clear Xbox paid for timed exclusivity. No way in hell does a franchise like Persona miss Playstation AND Nintendo where it's core base is from. Strangely enough, every timed exclusive game that was announced recently (outside of FF7R) was transparent about if a game is timed or not from the get go.
Re: The Last of Us: Part I Has a $100 Version, and It's Already Sold Out
@NEStalgia Nintendo definitely do this and no one bats an eye. I mean did DK Tropical Freeze even have extra content? Before the expansion, MK8 didn't either. Neither did Super Mario Bros Deluxe. Still, enthusiasts speaks with their wallets.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Games for June 2022?
@TheCollector316 100% Agreed! This is definitely not the worst month.
Re: Poll: What Was Your Favourite PS5, PS4 Game Shown at State of Play?
Between SF6 and Callisto for me personally.
Re: Resident Evil 4 Remake Announced for PS5, Out March 2023
@Would_you_kindly It doesn't have anything to do with Sony. Xbix is getting the game as well. Must've been Capcom's decision.
Re: Sony 'Not at All Finished' Growing PlayStation Studios via Acquisitions
@NEStalgia I'd wager the output is the same on both Nintendo and Sony over the years. I really don't think Nintendo has more Altus titles as of recently.
Re: Please Don't Get Your Hopes Up for Today's Persona 25th Anniversary Stream
@NEStalgia 😒
Re: Sony 'Not at All Finished' Growing PlayStation Studios via Acquisitions
@GADG3Tx87 Nope. Atlusnand Sony are a great fit already. More than the other 2. While I do agree Sega would fit quite nicely in the Nintendo realm, that would mean Atlus would be exclusive to Nintendo as well. I can't see that. I'd rather Atlus, erm...Sega, stay independent then. That way no one loses out.
Re: Spider-Man Games Could Have Been Exclusive to Xbox
@SacredPYRO Nah you're buggin'. Sunset Overdrive was absolutely fun and a great exclusive for Xbox.
Re: Spider-Man Games Could Have Been Exclusive to Xbox
Well if they were approached simultaneously, how would it have been exclusive to just Micorsoft? Even though Insomniac worked on one exclusive for Xbox, I doubt they would have had Insomniac make the game for them.
Re: Sony: Acquisition of Bungie Represents a Major Step Forward in Becoming More Multiplatform
@truerbluer Bro! I'm wondering the same thing. This Bungie "acquisition" seems more like a partnership than anything. I personally wished that Sony never acquired them. An almost 4 billion dollar acquisition from one developer with one IP just seems too pricey. The optics on this is confusing to the average PS fan wondering where this benefits them.
Re: PS Plus Premium's PS5, PS4 Game Trials Have Trophies, and Save Data Carries Over
Wasn't this already a thing?! I could've sworn that game trials already gave you trophies. Why is this a selling point like it's new?