@ChrisDeku and its half of Granblue Fantasy 115,000 or a tiny fraction of Pal Worlds 2.1million. As a steam numbers novice, it just seemed fairly conservative when compared to some of the other releases this year which have been reported on.
But thanks for offering some additional perspective, appreciate it.
Is 50,000 a good result for steam concurrent players on day 1? Maybe its just Pal Worlds 2.1million concurrent players reported last week that makes it seem very low?
Considering Days gone launched in a technical mess and reviewed distinctly average, that is not as reassuring as he thinks it is, but I appreciate the sentiment.
Seems kind of pointless when you have devices like the rog ally and steam deck.
Why limit yourself to a Sony device, when you can play almost anything on an Ally, as they launch their games on steam.
With a 3rd party device you can play Sony games and everything else with emulators. A much better proposition and that is before you even mention sonys appalling track record of supporting devices outside of its core home console (Vita and psvr as 2 recent examples)
I thought it being a ps6 title was obvious, if it's only starting production after ds2 releases in 2025. This is going to be close enough to a decade away more than likely
Ronin continues to have me hyped. I was hyped for the new Kojima announcement until they mentioned movie/game then it died a little. Not really much else but Judas (as a big Bioshock fan) butnot every game has to be for me, so a solid enough show
I get Sony do not have a say in the gamepass deal, but they could at the very least make the same deal and put it on their own sub aswell, try and give some value back to their customers and not have such bad optics over the years.
PS plus really needs to improve alot to be in the same league as gamepass. It's nowhere near at the minute and some day 1 deals like that would get me to resubscribe. As a multiplatform gamer it's not even a contest on which service gets my money
Star Wars Outlaws aims to tell a tighter narrative tale, which sounds like a refreshing change from Remedy's more open and, at times, meandering Star Wars Jedi games
Having reading the comments above, after the Blizzard info and now this, it feels like there's more MS news than Sony news on Push at the minute...
Even one of the sources you linked (techraptor) mentions that they are working on an Xbox game, in the title and text of their article, so why did you edit all that out and not mention it?
I did predict pre launch it would not even sell as well as psvr1, as a lot of people got stung on psvr1 with motion sickness (Like myself - One of my most regrettable purchases ever) and a lack of any killer game.
PSVR2 was destined to fail even before the questionable launch (zero hype, not sold in stores etc) and not because its a bad product, but because VR is nowhere near ready for mass market appeal and a huge number of people have absolutely no interest in it at all
I tried the man erased his name and found it dull as dishwater and did not make it to the end. I Really wish I could get into this series, but every time I try, I just can't seem to enjoy them. I am a huge fan of Shenmue as well, so you would think these games would click, but they do not.
And as a side note: How are we ever going to stop getting fleeced as customers, when Sega's shady practises are brushed over every time by the media and the game scores highly regardless. We get what we deserve to be honest
I am playing Skyrim, the special addition. Just finished the mages guild quests and I am doing the thieves guild quests at the moment. Will get to play some more when the kids are in bed tonight, taking them to soft play now. Happy weekend everyone
This is a remaster in name only. They did not remaster anything. They ported it to Ps5 with a little extra content. It's not even a remaster, Digital Foundry confirmed it's exactly the same. This guy comes across as completely out of touch
I recently finished part 2 on PS5 and while I enjoyed the game, it was way to long and boring and a step down from Part 1 (It was in my top 5 most played games last year)
I just watched the Digital Foundry video and I cant believe it is exactly the same with no visual enhancements. This must take the prize for most pointless remaster ever. Please stop remastering games that do not need it, this game is not even 4 years old! Just stop
I mentioned this the other day but I have had 3 dualsence, 2 white and 1 starlight blue. Never got more than 4 hours charge at most out of any of them. 12hours is still poor compared to the competition. Two of them broke due to the RT snapping and going floppy. Between drift, poor battery and breaking triggers the dualsence has been a massive step backwards after the dualshock 4. I do like the rumble but the adaptive triggers are awful and just get in the way
Honestly just a better showcase please. We didn't get one for like 2 years and then last years was terrible and we may aswell not have had one. Really looking forward to Ronin from Team Ninja
Stop playing predatory games that have no respect for you. Live service games are a cancer on the industry and instead of making excuses for them, people should call them out and stop supporting them. Same goes for gacha games.
That means stop buying from the stores, and stop playing the games at all, or things will continue to get worse and worse. If you play these games you are telling devs and publishers that this sort of thing is fine, and nothing will ever get better for us the consumer. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
The dualshock 4 is far superior to the dualsence. I am on my 3rd dualsence as both my previous controllers the springs have snapped in the RT. Its extra annoying as I hate the adaptive triggers, as they just get in the way, especially when playing difficult games (as I tend to alot) The battery life has also been a major disappointment, and the longest I have ever got out of a charge being approx. 4 hours with the triggers turned off, really nowhere near good enough
I do like the rumble, but overall the dualsence is a massive step down from the Dualshock 4
Still going with Cyberpunk on ps5. Lvl 40, reflex and cool build with a bit of net running. Really enjoying the game and I am not usually a huge open world fanatic
76 is hugely improved since launch and deserved to be mentioned in the same breath asno man's sky and cyberpunk when it comes to a redemption arc.
I am not a big 76 player, or any multiplayer title really. But credit where credit is due, they have done a really good job fixing and improving the game and its turned into a pretty popular game
@Intr1n5ic I think you are probably better off asking Insomniac those questions or someone internal at Sony, not a casual observer on the Internet. Why is there Bluepoint concept art in there? I have no idea. How am I supposed to know? But it sure is interesting to read
This sounds so awesome and I was hoping it would be a bit like Ghost of Nioh, and it sounds like just that. Please dont dumb down the combat and make it casual leaning. All hail Team Ninja
The slide titled "leapfrog" is very interesting, it's basically an internal document with Sonys thought on ATVI.
Sad to see Ratchet and Clank lost money, I enjoyed that game with my son and got the Platinum. Happy to see another one is still planned as Marvel is not really my thing, and Insomniac seem to be the Marvel studio now.
@Titntin I believe it is unprofessional, for the reasons I provided, and you do not. My bar for professionalism may be higher in this regard, and that's OK. So let's just agree to disagree on this one I guess
@Titntin because using a random users guesstimate based on last year's guesstimate is unprofessional to me. And if you link something in an article it is a source, that is the whole point of linking it, to show the reader where the information came from.
Inaccuracies are a pet hate of mine, maybe its my OCD, i dont know. This is not the first time or the last time I have done it. For example I corrected a sales article a few weeks ago with some information the author was not aware of and the article was amended.
Not sure where you got the hissy fit from or that I am dismayed. My original comment is clear and precise and in no way emotional lol. Maybe you woke up on the wrong side of the bed today mate?
@get2sammyb I checked the source for your estimate of sales and its just a random user on a random resetera thread that you cannot corroborate, unless I missed something?
Nov 2023:
PS5 ~978k
NSW ~267k
XBS ~54k
Based on rough 2022 estimates
They even admit its a complete guess based on a complete guess from last year lol. Talk about inaccurate.
Why would you include that in your article if you admit you cannot corroborate it? Does random guessing on a resetera thread really count as a news article source these days?
Just surprised you included that as it just seems a bit, unprofessional?
Become a solely live service games studio or continue to focus on single-player narrative games that have defined Naughty Dog’s heritage.
I hope certain people can finally stop saying that live services do not take away resources from single player games. Because you are hearing it straight from the horses mouth.
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Re: Helldivers 2 Off to a Strong Start on PS5, PC, Currently Third Best-Selling Game on Steam
@ChrisDeku So initial impressions sound like a mixed bag from your latest response and it could go either way. Thanks for the update
Re: Helldivers 2 Off to a Strong Start on PS5, PC, Currently Third Best-Selling Game on Steam
@ChrisDeku and its half of Granblue Fantasy 115,000 or a tiny fraction of Pal Worlds 2.1million. As a steam numbers novice, it just seemed fairly conservative when compared to some of the other releases this year which have been reported on.
But thanks for offering some additional perspective, appreciate it.
Re: Helldivers 2 Off to a Strong Start on PS5, PC, Currently Third Best-Selling Game on Steam
Is 50,000 a good result for steam concurrent players on day 1? Maybe its just Pal Worlds 2.1million concurrent players reported last week that makes it seem very low?
Re: PS5, PS4 First-Party Devs Won't Get Complacent Even if Competition Degrades
Considering Days gone launched in a technical mess and reviewed distinctly average, that is not as reassuring as he thinks it is, but I appreciate the sentiment.
Re: Xbox Set to Announce Multi-Platform Plans Next Week
They should just rename it the ex-box
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 514
Ninja Gaiden 3 Razers Edge. I play at least 1 of the NG games every year, because they have the best combat in any game ever.
Re: Rumour: A New PlayStation Handheld Console Reportedly in the Works
Seems kind of pointless when you have devices like the rog ally and steam deck.
Why limit yourself to a Sony device, when you can play almost anything on an Ally, as they launch their games on steam.
With a 3rd party device you can play Sony games and everything else with emulators. A much better proposition and that is before you even mention sonys appalling track record of supporting devices outside of its core home console (Vita and psvr as 2 recent examples)
Re: Silent Hill: The Short Message (PS5) - There's a Reason It's Free
How do you mess up a free game that was shadow dropped. Konami gotta Konami.
Silent Hill 2 Remake looked absolutely terrible aswell
Re: Could Sony, Hideo Kojima's Physint Be the First Announced PS6 Game?
I thought it being a ps6 title was obvious, if it's only starting production after ds2 releases in 2025. This is going to be close enough to a decade away more than likely
Re: Rise of the Ronin PS5 Gets Gameplay Deep Dive at Sony's State of Play
Best game of the show for me and one of my most hyped games for the whole year. Ninja Gaiden, Nioh, Wo Long are all awesome.
Re: Sony Partners with Hideo Kojima on Physint, Basically Sounds Like a Metal Gear Successor
Got me hyped. Just please be a game and a movie and not a strange hybrid. This could be superb
Re: Poll: How Would You Rate the Latest State of Play Showcase?
Ronin continues to have me hyped. I was hyped for the new Kojima announcement until they mentioned movie/game then it died a little. Not really much else but Judas (as a big Bioshock fan) butnot every game has to be for me, so a solid enough show
Re: Sony's Own MLB The Show 24 Will Be Full-Price on PS5, PS4 Again, No Extra Cost on Xbox Game Pass
I get Sony do not have a say in the gamepass deal, but they could at the very least make the same deal and put it on their own sub aswell, try and give some value back to their customers and not have such bad optics over the years.
PS plus really needs to improve alot to be in the same league as gamepass. It's nowhere near at the minute and some day 1 deals like that would get me to resubscribe. As a multiplatform gamer it's not even a contest on which service gets my money
Re: Talking Point: What Can We Expect in the Next State of Play Show?
If Ronin ends up being what I hope, a kind of ghost of tsushima with Nioh combat difficulty and depth, this should be awesome.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Sounding Like the Scoundrel Simulator We Always Wanted
Remedy dont make Star Wars games, that's respawn
Re: Following Embracer Shutdown, Volition Veterans Form New Outfit Shapeshifter Games
Having reading the comments above, after the Blizzard info and now this, it feels like there's more MS news than Sony news on Push at the minute...
Even one of the sources you linked (techraptor) mentions that they are working on an Xbox game, in the title and text of their article, so why did you edit all that out and not mention it?
Re: State of Play Announced, Covering More Than 15 PS5, PSVR2 Games
Please be better than the last handful of shows, I'm not sure how they could be any worse.
Really hyped for Ronin and any surprises they show! A re-reveal of Pragmata would be awesome!
Re: Rec Room Dev 'Can't Justify' a PSVR2 Port
I did predict pre launch it would not even sell as well as psvr1, as a lot of people got stung on psvr1 with motion sickness (Like myself - One of my most regrettable purchases ever) and a lack of any killer game.
PSVR2 was destined to fail even before the questionable launch (zero hype, not sold in stores etc) and not because its a bad product, but because VR is nowhere near ready for mass market appeal and a huge number of people have absolutely no interest in it at all
Re: Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth (PS5) - The Best Yakuza Game Ever Made
I tried the man erased his name and found it dull as dishwater and did not make it to the end. I Really wish I could get into this series, but every time I try, I just can't seem to enjoy them. I am a huge fan of Shenmue as well, so you would think these games would click, but they do not.
And as a side note: How are we ever going to stop getting fleeced as customers, when Sega's shady practises are brushed over every time by the media and the game scores highly regardless. We get what we deserve to be honest
Re: Tekken 8 (PS5) - Next-Gen Tekken Is a Modern Fighting Game Masterclass
Great review, your enthusiasm comes across well in the text
Re: Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth Removes New Game +, Puts It Behind a DLC Paywall
Stay classy San Diego
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 512
I am playing Skyrim, the special addition. Just finished the mages guild quests and I am doing the thieves guild quests at the moment. Will get to play some more when the kids are in bed tonight, taking them to soft play now. Happy weekend everyone
Re: The Last of Us 2 Remastered Director Doesn't Get Fan 'Consternation' Surrounding Re-Release
This is a remaster in name only. They did not remaster anything. They ported it to Ps5 with a little extra content. It's not even a remaster, Digital Foundry confirmed it's exactly the same. This guy comes across as completely out of touch
Re: The Last of Us Part 2 Remastered (PS5) - A Near Perfect Package for New and Returning Fans
I recently finished part 2 on PS5 and while I enjoyed the game, it was way to long and boring and a step down from Part 1 (It was in my top 5 most played games last year)
I just watched the Digital Foundry video and I cant believe it is exactly the same with no visual enhancements. This must take the prize for most pointless remaster ever. Please stop remastering games that do not need it, this game is not even 4 years old! Just stop
Re: UK's GAME Stores to Stop Accepting Trade-Ins from Next Month
As a Newcastle fan, any business owned by Mike Ashley is strictly off limits, because he's a terrible human and he asset stripped my local club
Re: Upgraded PS5 Controller with Hugely Improved Battery Life Spotted
I mentioned this the other day but I have had 3 dualsence, 2 white and 1 starlight blue. Never got more than 4 hours charge at most out of any of them. 12hours is still poor compared to the competition. Two of them broke due to the RT snapping and going floppy. Between drift, poor battery and breaking triggers the dualsence has been a massive step backwards after the dualshock 4. I do like the rumble but the adaptive triggers are awful and just get in the way
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want from Sony and PlayStation in 2024?
Honestly just a better showcase please. We didn't get one for like 2 years and then last years was terrible and we may aswell not have had one. Really looking forward to Ronin from Team Ninja
Re: Apex Legends Fans Are Absolutely Irate with the Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Event's Pricing
Stop playing predatory games that have no respect for you. Live service games are a cancer on the industry and instead of making excuses for them, people should call them out and stop supporting them. Same goes for gacha games.
That means stop buying from the stores, and stop playing the games at all, or things will continue to get worse and worse. If you play these games you are telling devs and publishers that this sort of thing is fine, and nothing will ever get better for us the consumer. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
Re: PS5's UK Sales End 2023 Down by 19%, But Still the Leading Console
Well done to Sony, MS and Nintendo
Re: Sony's Third-Party Chief Explains How PlayStation Makes PS5 the Best Place to Play
The dualshock 4 is far superior to the dualsence. I am on my 3rd dualsence as both my previous controllers the springs have snapped in the RT. Its extra annoying as I hate the adaptive triggers, as they just get in the way, especially when playing difficult games (as I tend to alot) The battery life has also been a major disappointment, and the longest I have ever got out of a charge being approx. 4 hours with the triggers turned off, really nowhere near good enough
I do like the rumble, but overall the dualsence is a massive step down from the Dualshock 4
Re: Poll: Which PS5 Games are You Buying in Early 2024's Ridiculous Release Schedule?
Only one I am interested in buying day 1 is Ronin, please don't make it casual friendly, and keep to your roots team ninja
Re: Push Square Readers' 20 Most Anticipated PS5 Games of 2024
Ronin is my most anticipated PS5 game this year, love Team Ninja.
Wo long was awesome last year as well!
Re: Poll: Was 2023 One of the Best Ever Years for New Game Releases?
Too many remakes and cookie cutter sequels for last year to be considered truly great, but your mileage may vary
Re: Game of the Year: Khayl's Top 5 PS5, PS4 Games of 2023
Wo Long was a really great game. Team Ninja are the combat masters. Glad to see others enjoyed it as much as me
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 508
Still going with Cyberpunk on ps5. Lvl 40, reflex and cool build with a bit of net running. Really enjoying the game and I am not usually a huge open world fanatic
Re: Future Looking Bright for Fallout 76 and Its Legions of Players
76 is hugely improved since launch and deserved to be mentioned in the same breath asno man's sky and cyberpunk when it comes to a redemption arc.
I am not a big 76 player, or any multiplayer title really. But credit where credit is due, they have done a really good job fixing and improving the game and its turned into a pretty popular game
Re: Activision Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick Is Stepping Down on 29th December, 2023
The end of is kotick is great news. Finally something we can all agree on regarding the merger, it's a Christmas miracle!
Re: Analysts Peg PS5's 2023 Sales at Around 22.5 Million Units Worldwide
Well done Sony on an incredibly sucessful year selling consoles!
Re: Beware! Marvel's Wolverine PS5 Assets Are Beginning to Appear Online
@Intr1n5ic Paul Tassi says its real, just like most outlets. Your theory sounds very far fetched to me.
Re: Beware! Marvel's Wolverine PS5 Assets Are Beginning to Appear Online
@Intr1n5ic well it came from Insomniac so there must be a reason, but unfortunately we will more than likely never know
Re: Beware! Marvel's Wolverine PS5 Assets Are Beginning to Appear Online
@Intr1n5ic I think you are probably better off asking Insomniac those questions or someone internal at Sony, not a casual observer on the Internet. Why is there Bluepoint concept art in there? I have no idea. How am I supposed to know? But it sure is interesting to read
Re: Beware! Marvel's Wolverine PS5 Assets Are Beginning to Appear Online
@Intr1n5ic not a joke, it's real, part of the hack. As reported on by Eurogamer and many other outlets
Re: Rise of the Ronin Preview Details Open World, Moral Choices, Combat, More
This sounds so awesome and I was hoping it would be a bit like Ghost of Nioh, and it sounds like just that. Please dont dumb down the combat and make it casual leaning. All hail Team Ninja
Re: Beware! Marvel's Wolverine PS5 Assets Are Beginning to Appear Online
The slide titled "leapfrog" is very interesting, it's basically an internal document with Sonys thought on ATVI.
Sad to see Ratchet and Clank lost money, I enjoyed that game with my son and got the Platinum. Happy to see another one is still planned as Marvel is not really my thing, and Insomniac seem to be the Marvel studio now.
Sad day for the devs, got to feel for them today.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 507
Cyberpunk on ps5. 3rd time starting it as previously i could not get into it due to bugs and all the widely reported poor systems like the police.
Really enjoying it this time and could end up being one of top 20 all time games. Just alot of fun
Re: PS5 Sales Absolutely Explode in Europe as Sony Single-Handedly Drives Industry Up
@Titntin always happy to provide further information, even if you do not agree, and always happy to chat with you mate. Have an awesome day!
Re: PS5 Sales Absolutely Explode in Europe as Sony Single-Handedly Drives Industry Up
@Titntin I believe it is unprofessional, for the reasons I provided, and you do not. My bar for professionalism may be higher in this regard, and that's OK. So let's just agree to disagree on this one I guess
Re: PS5 Sales Absolutely Explode in Europe as Sony Single-Handedly Drives Industry Up
@Titntin because using a random users guesstimate based on last year's guesstimate is unprofessional to me. And if you link something in an article it is a source, that is the whole point of linking it, to show the reader where the information came from.
Inaccuracies are a pet hate of mine, maybe its my OCD, i dont know. This is not the first time or the last time I have done it. For example I corrected a sales article a few weeks ago with some information the author was not aware of and the article was amended.
Not sure where you got the hissy fit from or that I am dismayed. My original comment is clear and precise and in no way emotional lol. Maybe you woke up on the wrong side of the bed today mate?
Re: PS5 Sales Absolutely Explode in Europe as Sony Single-Handedly Drives Industry Up
@get2sammyb I checked the source for your estimate of sales and its just a random user on a random resetera thread that you cannot corroborate, unless I missed something?
They even admit its a complete guess based on a complete guess from last year lol. Talk about inaccurate.
Why would you include that in your article if you admit you cannot corroborate it? Does random guessing on a resetera thread really count as a news article source these days?
Just surprised you included that as it just seems a bit, unprofessional?
Re: The Last of Us Multiplayer Project Is Officially Cancelled
I hope certain people can finally stop saying that live services do not take away resources from single player games. Because you are hearing it straight from the horses mouth.