Shwing

@DennisReynolds
i let out a John Wick style "Oh"

LOL, made me chuckle (whilst picturing the iconic scene)

I actually forgot I had TLoU2Remastered (had never played it) - and put it on my Pro a couple of days ago. Wow! I was blown away by how good it looked/ran - genuinely a jaw dropping moment.

PCMR babies at it again.

Yup, love the new Welcome screen myself

Very much deserved.
The game is wonderful and so much fun.
Love the 2 player split screen online design of it (and previous game A Way Out).

@Number09
" in the meantime the PS4 without turnips is more than good enough for me"

That's fine, you obviously have lower standards than I do - personally I want as good a performance as possible, and that's what the Pro is giving me. Once again, it's no difference to a PC owner upgrading their GPU to attain a higher quality experience - or someone upgrading their phone. But for some reason people seem to begrudge the PS5 the same courtesy. If it's not for you, it's not for you - we all have varying standards.

@Pranwell

Hear, hear!

Moan moan moan. That's all you ever hear from most people. Can we stop with the constant moaning and look at the positives. If you can't justify spending £700 on a Pro that's fine, but don't then constantly moan. It's a lot of money, yes, but the more of these articles we get, the more people can make an informed decision whether they want to purchase the Pro. No matter what, you can't deny that the machine is an improvement, and will run things better. It's just it gets tiresome listening to all the moaning minnies just because they can't justify the purchase. It's all about options/choices.

bloody women

Managed to at least get myself a PS5 Pro for launch day. Good Luck everyone else, hope you got what you wanted!

Anyway... I spy with my little eye....

@NEOTDS

It was always going to happen. No matter what controversy is going on, when the time comes peoples FOMO hits hard, and they just buy

@springer17

Don't be too hard on them, there's no way they could've predicted this mass stampede, so it has caught them a little off guard 😡

Makes me laugh that the website update states... "We're currently experiencing a large volume of customers to our site, blah blah blah" - really? You don't say? Wonder why that would be? Grrrrrrr

And this is exactly why I'm fed up with all the whiny drama queens who constantly go off on one as soon as they hear something they don't like. As this case has proven, people need to look at the big picture and wait until they have all the info before throwing toys out of prams. But then, that's the internet... innit?

And the PC 'master race' babies are at it again. Boohoo we have to take a few additional seconds to sign into another service.

@Rhaoulos
When people always say this, they very rarely mention about the cost differential. A high end PC is going to set you back at least £2k, which isn't an insignificant amount of cash. Versus a console around 25% the cost...

@tangyzesty
And yet I disagree. It's absolutely necessary to keep the hardcore player engaged in the eco system. Saying it's not necessary is the equivalent of saying a new graphics card or CPU for PC is not necessary. Taken in isolation probably not, but...

100% But some companies do go the extra bit to provide a better experience. Sony isn't one of them.

As much as I love PlayStation, it has to be said that Sony is one of the worst consumer friendly companies.

As many have already said... Boohoo PC crowd.

@Titntin
"Have a great day "

I will, thank you 👍

@Titntin
"so please ignore those who clearly come to the site to moan at stuff."
Not me, I come to the site as I rate it one of the best PlayStation portals on the net... which is why reading such a non informative article is disappointing. There is nothing in this article we already didn't know, or has any relevance to a current PlayStation 'situation'.

Not sure what the point of this article is? It doesn't actually provide any new information.

@Godot25 "PR wins won't bring you revenue."

And yet the very definition of good PR is...
A strong PR campaign can provide both short-term and long-term results. In the short term, PR can help to generate media attention, build brand awareness, and create a positive reputation. These results can lead to increased sales, higher levels of customer satisfaction, and improved employee morale.
Obviously not in every case... but never ever heard someone say good PR won't bring you revenue, or be good for the brand.

@Godot25

Also, only a few posts above you say "No. I'm not making excuses. It's ridiculous that 3 trillion dollar company can't spare few millions for two studios to continue to exist."
Then you say "Sony is also trimming fat in their studios and you want them to invest in a studio that haven't produce true commercial hit since their first game?" - and yet that's exactly what you said in your first statement... that it was ridiculous that MS couldn't spare a few million. So, are Tango fat that needs trimming or not - make your mind up?

@Godot25

Still mostly great games... and the PR win would be priceless, no?

I played it for a few months, and really enjoyed it. I then took a break and came back to it - and something had changed. In the beginning I was winning approx 75% of my games, on my return it was more like 25% - something just felt off. Anyway, haven't played it in months now.

I've been thinking about this, and how big a PR WIN it would be if Sony was to buy Tango, or at least do a deal for them to create something (thus keeping them together). Such an easy PR victory.

@BansheeNorn
I've played a few multiplayer games myself on Portal, and they've all played well. HellDivers 2, Sea of Thieves amongst others. Of course playing a twitch shooter like CoD probably isn't advised, at least in the PvP modes .

Have had a Portal since launch, and find it excellent. Use it all the time, and would 100% recommend so long as you have a good WiFi setup.

In this day in age games need to be 60fps. I've done my time with 30 over the years. Bottom line is if PS5 consistently targeted 30 fps, I'd be off to PC exclusively in a shot (I do have a decent PC at present, but just prefer the PS eco system). So, 60fps I'll stay with PS, 30 fps I'll go completely PC.

Sounds the sort of gig that has Phil Harrison's name all over it 😃

Oh here we go... All the Negative Nancy's.
Personally I can't wait for the Pro.

I have been thinking the same as a few others in this thread regarding the CPU & FPS dilemma.
Thing is, what with all the custom tweaks in the Pro, you might find that it all comes together to reduce overall taxation on the system in order to free up enough resources to push for 60fps. I know the CPU only had an additional 10%, but with PSSR and a few other tricks, the system may very well claw back the extra required to push game X to 60fps at a decent resolution.
Thing we have to remember is Mark Cerny is a system master.

I'll definitely get a Pro.
Not sure why so many people are against having a more powerful option - the only thing I can think of is because they don't want to be left with the weaker model after spending all that money on it. If Sony said they would exchange your standard 5 for a Pro, no-one would complain or have issue... So it basically comes down to defending your investment. When new GPUs/CPUs come out, you don't hear people complaining in the PC space - asking why there's a need for faster components.

Umm, where's No Man's Sky?
In my opinion one of the best VR games ever!
On PSVR2 it is STUNNING!

@riceNpea It's the same reason I left the Eurogamer community after being around for the majority of it's existence. Apparently feedback is only constructive if it aligns with what the higher ups want to hear. Remember back in the day when freedom of speech and opinion was a thing on community forums/message boards. Sigh

@lightningbolt79 I know where you're coming from in relation to the want for more games (the more the merrier) - but as you say the hardware / software teams are completely separate.
Having a Pro version of the PS5 won't impact software development by much, as was seen with the PS4/PS4 Pro. The Pro normally just had a higher resolution and more stable framerate - this is something that would happen automatically (without much dev input) by nature of the machine being beefier. Another way to look at it is a PS5 Pro could actually extend / bring increased focus to the PS5 standard itself. Why? If there was no Pro then Sony would just be working towards the PS6 (which they obvs are anyway) thus making all devs wonder how long a life the PS5 will have. If you introduce a Pro, then the PS5 'line' of consoles would be extended to a later date, thus presenting the devs with additional development time & confidence that the 5 will be around longer. Heck, you could even say the Pro might help devs with the eventual transition to the PS6, thus improving software quality & quantity.
Finally, bear in mind that the PC is now, more than ever, a competing platform for us gamers time & money. This is one reason that Sony obvs got into releasing games for the PC, but as is always the way, PCs will continue to evolve at a pace that is hard to keep up with - therefore a Pro can have the effect of keeping potential platform hoppers to a minimum.

@lightningbolt79 Just as a matter of interest, why do you consider it a bad decision to release one (genuinely interested). How would launching one affect anyone with a standard PS5... It'll still play all the games just as before.

@lightningbolt79 I don't know why people keep saying this, surely it's up to the individual if they want an even faster machine? I for one would welcome a Pro and preorder the second it became available.