@RBMango Not to argue, just to share my personal thought process: 2017 was absolutely amazing. How I decided to put 2023 slightly above it was but trying to "answer" the notable 2017 releases with 1 or 2 2023 counterparts. Like BotW vs ToTK. Or Persona 5 vs P5 Tactica + BG3. Or HZD vs The Burning Shores Dlc + Spiderman 2. Or Resi 7 vs Resi 4 Remake ect.
2017 is a very close 2nd but for me 2023 was the best ever. Not every game spoke to me but the sheer amount of titles that I would have played in any other year but didnt due to too many other releases has never happened before.
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For example: I skipped One Piece Odessy, Lies of P, Goodbye Volcano High, Seasons and the MH Rise Sunbreak expansion all because I was too busy just trying to finish other games.
Could easily have been 1-2 spots higher imo. Considering the state that mainline FF was in before XVI it did a tremendous job of have 1 clear direction and going for it.
Sadly I havent even touched GoWR: Valhalla yet as I'm still trying to get through my 1st playthrough in Star Ocean The Second Story R ( as Claude).
I'm on Energy Nede but I'm just feeling a bit fatigued with the game. I still want to beat Octopath Traveler 2 (78 hours in and still not done) before the end of the year. And now I hear that GranBlue Fantasy Relink will have a PS5/4 demo in January 😅 I'm drowning in JRPGs.
Taking the wife camping this weekend so I'll game during the week.
@playstation1995 FINALLY someone else is giving Octopath Traveler 2 a try! Oswald is the best IMO followed by Temenos. Ochette may seem annoying but her monster collecting is gamechanging. Enjoy!
Despite completing Echoes of the Fallen DLC and wanting to start GoWR: Valhalla DLC I'm getting back in the groove with Star Ocean The Second Story R on PS5 instead. Hope to play some more tonight when the Misses and I return from the England vs West Indies Cricket match.
@Grimwood I enjoy the setting I just dont want it to get to a point where people ignore games because of this setting, they way some immediately dismiss Souls games or open world games.
I'm afraid we might soon experience oversaturation of Feudal era Japan themed games tho. AC Red, Rise of the Ronin, Phantom Blade Zero and 1 I think I'm forgetting are all on the way before or around when Ghost of Tsushima 2 will probably launch ( early 2025 to avoid being buried by GTA6 Is my guess).
I'm actually very excited for Foamstars, its some of the most fun I had online this year 😀 Then the 1-2 punch of GranBlue Fantasy Relink and FF7 Rebirth
But yeah, the metrics that Call of Duty absolutely destroys all of the God of War games (probably combined to be honest) is also equally laughable (if not more).”
And this is why Sony need to take a stronger hand with Bungie. Having member of one Playstation studio call out a VA from another Playstation studio comparing franchise sales is just not a good look.
@__jamiie That's because Sony's management track record is much better than MS. But I think even then it would be warranted. If Bethesda for example started hemorrhaging talent like this MS would be well within their rights to step in.
I think the sentiment is more of Bungie failing and NEEDING to be taken over.
Actually changing up the gaming plans this time. Gonna guide a buddy via Screenshare on his 1st playthrough of Arkham Knight on PS5 via back compat. Have fun yall!
Man, Xbox are confusing even themselves. How could messaging be this mixed even between Execs? They clearly are not on the same page cause you dont "mistakenly" name drop your 2 biggest competitors saying you want to put your service on their platform.
IF I get to even turn on the PS5 this weekend I'll be playing Star Ocean 2 Remake but I'm drowning in work so it's not looking good. Hope you all have a better time than I!
This is really sad. I feel that these companies that annouce games that never come out should explain why at some point. Imagine whipping up an entire fanbase only to go dark for a decade but actively silence former employees about it. In a roundabout way an announced game that never materialized is like a broken promise.
@Deityjester I'm surprised too. Given that CDPR is recovering from a bad rep themselves you would think they would just bite the bullet.
Also it seems that not recompiling the game with the DLC ( as Sony's policy seems to force) means the 1.0 version of the game without the patches is what will be on the disc. Obviously cant confirm this yet though.
People say they want Vita 2 but didnt support Vita 1. Complain about Memory cards, complained about $40 Digital games, complained about Sony's dev being split between Vita/PS4 games. But i guess enough time has passed for people to forget all that. 🤷🏾♂️
When I think about it PS4 just was gaming. So many defining experiences, VR, Remote Play, live-streaming, sharing screenshots all normalized on PS4. And the Games were top notch. New Ips and Remakes/Reboots/Remasters.
@Ralizah I totally agree with you and I wish we could have smaller more creatively interesting titles. It definitely adds value. I remember the days when PS was the brand known for letting g their creatives "cook" and giving alot of freedom (not that they dont now but clearly they'remaking adjustments). I feel that was good thing. Maybe one day they will get back to that
@Ralizah I hear you, I LOVED the Gravity rush games. But HQ didnt nuke Japan Studio, the fans who didnt buy their games did. That and probably the enormous budget for The Last Guardian that I'm sure it never made back.
To me PS5 has really shined this year with Spiderman 2 and HFW: Burning Shores. They really showed that PS4 wasnt enough. Playing PS4 games in 60fps was a treat and now I only play in performance modes. Two Thumbs up. 👍🏽👍🏽
@ShogunRok Recency biased played a BIG factor in this list. Literally half the GOTY noms are less than a month old.
@dr-gorgo Octopath Traveler 2 had such a phenomenal soundtrack i cant fathome what happened here. Perhaps they literally forgot the game came out this year.
Finished watching Atrack on Titan : The Final Chapters so i will be carrying on with Star Ocean The second story R on PS5 this weekend. Its currently raining Cats & Dogs which is a nice backdrop for a classic JRPG imo. Enjoy your Gaming everybody!
So far the Remake is really great, 8.5 so I rounded up to 9. This is my 1st time playing a Star Ocean game. There is some chaffing of the classic game design but the QoL improvements smooth out alot.
I preordered it (Digitally) and I'm about 8hrs in. It's really good. Just havent had enough time to play it recently but plan to get a few hours in tonight.
@HMazzy111 personally I'm all for Current Gen only releases but as @Grumblevolcano pointed out with the Switch 2 likely being PS4 to Ps4 Pro levels of performance and that fact that EA is porting SW Jedi Survivor to PS4 (likey to coincide with Switch 2) I would not be surprised is Rockstar does the same.
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Re: Poll: Was 2023 One of the Best Ever Years for New Game Releases?
@RBMango Not to argue, just to share my personal thought process: 2017 was absolutely amazing. How I decided to put 2023 slightly above it was but trying to "answer" the notable 2017 releases with 1 or 2 2023 counterparts. Like BotW vs ToTK. Or Persona 5 vs P5 Tactica + BG3. Or HZD vs The Burning Shores Dlc + Spiderman 2. Or Resi 7 vs Resi 4 Remake ect.
Re: Poll: Was 2023 One of the Best Ever Years for New Game Releases?
@RBMango Dont forget Gravity Rush 2 😉
Re: Poll: Was 2023 One of the Best Ever Years for New Game Releases?
2017 is a very close 2nd but for me 2023 was the best ever. Not every game spoke to me but the sheer amount of titles that I would have played in any other year but didnt due to too many other releases has never happened before.
EDIT
For example: I skipped One Piece Odessy, Lies of P, Goodbye Volcano High, Seasons and the MH Rise Sunbreak expansion all because I was too busy just trying to finish other games.
Re: Game of the Year: Top 10 PS5, PS4 Soundtracks of 2023
There is NO WAY you played Octopath Traveler 2 cause if you did it would be on this list. Not even an honorable mention? Downright Disrespectful.
Dont get me started on XVi...
Re: Game of the Year: Best PS5, PS4 Art Direction of 2023
Octopath Traveler 2 has absolutely gorgeous art on PS5. To this day Im still amazed at it and Star Ocean 2 Remake is a close 2nd.
Re: Game of the Year: #5 - Final Fantasy 16
Could easily have been 1-2 spots higher imo. Considering the state that mainline FF was in before XVI it did a tremendous job of have 1 clear direction and going for it.
Re: One of PS5's Most Promising Action RPGs Is Getting a Playable Demo in January
I'm definitely gonna play this demo. I'm planning to pre order it anyway but I'm super happy companies are making demos in this day an age.
Re: Game of the Year: Best PS5, PS4 Story Game of 2023
Didnt play BG3 or AW2 but XVI had an emotionally gripping story with themes that resonated with me.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 508
Sadly I havent even touched GoWR: Valhalla yet as I'm still trying to get through my 1st playthrough in Star Ocean The Second Story R ( as Claude).
I'm on Energy Nede but I'm just feeling a bit fatigued with the game. I still want to beat Octopath Traveler 2 (78 hours in and still not done) before the end of the year. And now I hear that GranBlue Fantasy Relink will have a PS5/4 demo in January 😅 I'm drowning in JRPGs.
Taking the wife camping this weekend so I'll game during the week.
Game on Everybody!
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 507
@playstation1995 FINALLY someone else is giving Octopath Traveler 2 a try! Oswald is the best IMO followed by Temenos. Ochette may seem annoying but her monster collecting is gamechanging. Enjoy!
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 507
Despite completing Echoes of the Fallen DLC and wanting to start GoWR: Valhalla DLC I'm getting back in the groove with Star Ocean The Second Story R on PS5 instead. Hope to play some more tonight when the Misses and I return from the England vs West Indies Cricket match.
Game on!
Re: The Last of Us Multiplayer Project Is Officially Cancelled
Having read the article I still have to ask: is this FACTIONS or a different online project all together?
Re: Disney Doesn't Think It Was 'Overly Exclusionary' to Cut Planned PS5 Version of Indiana Jones
Time to fast track that rumored Uncharted PS5 game Sony. Dont let Indy come out uncontested.
Re: 'Florida Joker' Dyes Hair Purple, Raises GTA 6 Ask to $3 Million
It's not about money, it's about sending a message.
Re: Feature: Best PS5 Announcement at The Game Awards 2023, as Voted by You
@Grimwood I enjoy the setting I just dont want it to get to a point where people ignore games because of this setting, they way some immediately dismiss Souls games or open world games.
Re: Feature: Best PS5 Announcement at The Game Awards 2023, as Voted by You
@Splat I'm inclined to agree 😌
I'm afraid we might soon experience oversaturation of Feudal era Japan themed games tho. AC Red, Rise of the Ronin, Phantom Blade Zero and 1 I think I'm forgetting are all on the way before or around when Ghost of Tsushima 2 will probably launch ( early 2025 to avoid being buried by GTA6 Is my guess).
Re: Feature: Best PS5 Announcement at The Game Awards 2023, as Voted By You
@Splat I'm in the same boat, not impressed or excited for Rise of the Ronin but I LOVED Ghost of Tsushima. 🤷🏾♂️
Re: Poll: What's Your Most Anticipated PS5 Game of 2024?
I'm actually very excited for Foamstars, its some of the most fun I had online this year 😀 Then the 1-2 punch of GranBlue Fantasy Relink and FF7 Rebirth
Re: Kratos Voice Actor Underfire for Roasting New Call of Duty Campaign
But yeah, the metrics that Call of Duty absolutely destroys all of the God of War games (probably combined to be honest) is also equally laughable (if not more).”
And this is why Sony need to take a stronger hand with Bungie. Having member of one Playstation studio call out a VA from another Playstation studio comparing franchise sales is just not a good look.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 506
@Kraven Congratulations!!! 🥳🥳 Tuesday gone was my wife and I's 2nd Anniversary.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 506
I'll be jumping into the unexpected Final Fantasy XVI DLC today after work. Any excuse to play XVI again is a good excuse. Happy gaming everybody!
Re: God of War Ragnarok: Valhalla Announced, Free DLC Out Next Week on PS5, PS4
Disappointed that is not story dlc but I wont complain cause it's free and so soon! Nice to see this type of support for a year old game 😀
Re: New Game+ Update for Assassin's Creed Mirage Coming Next Week
When is NG+ coming to Spiderman 2 tho.
Re: Lead Bungie Staff Fear 'Total Sony Takeover' After Layoffs, Delays
@__jamiie That's because Sony's management track record is much better than MS. But I think even then it would be warranted. If Bethesda for example started hemorrhaging talent like this MS would be well within their rights to step in.
I think the sentiment is more of Bungie failing and NEEDING to be taken over.
Re: Action RPG Granblue Fantasy: Relink Looks Fantastic in Hours of Raw PS5 Gameplay
Day 1 for me after I watched the new gameplay. Playing this in co op will be a blast.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 505
Actually changing up the gaming plans this time. Gonna guide a buddy via Screenshare on his 1st playthrough of Arkham Knight on PS5 via back compat. Have fun yall!
Re: Just One Day Later, Microsoft Has 'No Plans to Bring Game Pass' to PS5, PS4
Man, Xbox are confusing even themselves. How could messaging be this mixed even between Execs? They clearly are not on the same page cause you dont "mistakenly" name drop your 2 biggest competitors saying you want to put your service on their platform.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 504
IF I get to even turn on the PS5 this weekend I'll be playing Star Ocean 2 Remake but I'm drowning in work so it's not looking good. Hope you all have a better time than I!
Re: An Amazing Number of Players Have Marvel's Spider-Man 2's Platinum Trophy
@_camo_ @danzoEX Presumably Arachnophobic people would have avoided the gsme altogether 😂
But yeah it wasnt hard to platinum but it was an enjoyable platinum.
Re: Rockstar OGs Compel Former GTA Developer to Pull Insightful Blog
This is really sad. I feel that these companies that annouce games that never come out should explain why at some point. Imagine whipping up an entire fanbase only to go dark for a decade but actively silence former employees about it. In a roundabout way an announced game that never materialized is like a broken promise.
Ehh, I'm probably reading too much into it.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: PS5 Still Flying Off Shelves Despite Switch Software Dominance
Yeah the math is off on this one, by about 3K units in favor of Switch.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition's Lack of On-Disc DLC Is Reportedly Down to Sony Policy
@Deityjester I'm surprised too. Given that CDPR is recovering from a bad rep themselves you would think they would just bite the bullet.
Also it seems that not recompiling the game with the DLC ( as Sony's policy seems to force) means the 1.0 version of the game without the patches is what will be on the disc. Obviously cant confirm this yet though.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition's Lack of On-Disc DLC Is Reportedly Down to Sony Policy
If this was really a Sony policy issue why does the PC version also have a download code?
Re: Video: Why Sony Will Never Make the PS Vita 2
People say they want Vita 2 but didnt support Vita 1. Complain about Memory cards, complained about $40 Digital games, complained about Sony's dev being split between Vita/PS4 games. But i guess enough time has passed for people to forget all that. 🤷🏾♂️
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 503
It's more * Star Ocean Second story R* for me. I do need to try to Platinum Final Fantasy XVI tho...
Have a great weekend all!
Re: Poll: What Will Win Game of the Year at The Game Awards 2023?
Will win: BG3
Should win: Final Fantasy XVI
My vote: Spiderman 2
Re: Sand Land Still Looks Great in Side Quests and Dungeons Reveal
@ShogunRok I think I will now that AoT is over. Cheers!
Re: Feature: Celebrating 10 Years of PS4 with Our Favourite Games
When I think about it PS4 just was gaming. So many defining experiences, VR, Remote Play, live-streaming, sharing screenshots all normalized on PS4. And the Games were top notch. New Ips and Remakes/Reboots/Remasters.
Long Live Playstation!🥳🥳🥳
Re: Sand Land Still Looks Great in Side Quests and Dungeons Reveal
Still waiting for this game to grab me. I dont know the source material so maybe that's why.
Re: Talking Point: As PS5 Turns 3, How Are You Feeling About It?
@Ralizah I totally agree with you and I wish we could have smaller more creatively interesting titles. It definitely adds value. I remember the days when PS was the brand known for letting g their creatives "cook" and giving alot of freedom (not that they dont now but clearly they'remaking adjustments). I feel that was good thing. Maybe one day they will get back to that
Re: Talking Point: As PS5 Turns 3, How Are You Feeling About It?
@Ralizah I hear you, I LOVED the Gravity rush games. But HQ didnt nuke Japan Studio, the fans who didnt buy their games did. That and probably the enormous budget for The Last Guardian that I'm sure it never made back.
Re: Talking Point: As PS5 Turns 3, How Are You Feeling About It?
To me PS5 has really shined this year with Spiderman 2 and HFW: Burning Shores. They really showed that PS4 wasnt enough. Playing PS4 games in 60fps was a treat and now I only play in performance modes. Two Thumbs up. 👍🏽👍🏽
Re: All The Game Awards 2023 Nominees Announced, Baldur's Gate 3 and Alan Wake 2 Lead the Way
@ShogunRok Recency biased played a BIG factor in this list. Literally half the GOTY noms are less than a month old.
@dr-gorgo Octopath Traveler 2 had such a phenomenal soundtrack i cant fathome what happened here. Perhaps they literally forgot the game came out this year.
Re: Activision Pulling Modern Warfare 3 Maps Already Due to Grim Spawns
What a gigantic mess this has been. Really stinks that Sony paid to market this release and to launch the new model with this crap bundled in.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 502
Finished watching Atrack on Titan : The Final Chapters so i will be carrying on with Star Ocean The second story R on PS5 this weekend. Its currently raining Cats & Dogs which is a nice backdrop for a classic JRPG imo. Enjoy your Gaming everybody!
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Star Ocean The Second Story R?
So far the Remake is really great, 8.5 so I rounded up to 9. This is my 1st time playing a Star Ocean game. There is some chaffing of the classic game design but the QoL improvements smooth out alot.
Re: Poll: Is God of War Ragnarok Still One of Sony's Best Games, One Year Later?
Ita definitely one of the best. Not my Fav (HFW) but it was an incredible experience especially on PS5. A high bar to surpass.
Re: Star Ocean The Second Story R Sells Reasonably Well at Japanese Retail
@Sam_ATLUS Give the demo a try!
Re: Star Ocean The Second Story R Sells Reasonably Well at Japanese Retail
I preordered it (Digitally) and I'm about 8hrs in. It's really good. Just havent had enough time to play it recently but plan to get a few hours in tonight.
Re: Poll: Do You Think GTA 6 Will Release on PS4?
@HMazzy111 personally I'm all for Current Gen only releases
but as @Grumblevolcano pointed out with the Switch 2 likely being PS4 to Ps4 Pro levels of performance and that fact that EA is porting SW Jedi Survivor to PS4 (likey to coincide with Switch 2) I would not be surprised is Rockstar does the same.