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Surprised people want to see more of Rebirth. Isn’t one of the most enticing things about it the fact it’s all a bit of a mystery right now in terms of story etc (for a remake at least!). I don’t want to see any more of it until release.

On that note; hopefully the flagship game being shown is.. Skull and Bones.

I feel like “Hardware strong, software not” should be on the box of the PS5.

@PixelDragon I hear you - Time, Money, Space and sneaking it past the wife and pretending it was always there, are definitely factors.

It’s just Xbox seems to be the only one with the attitude of “all games everywhere”, even if (big “if”) Playstation gets there eventually.

I just want Xbox hardware to keep going.

I think it will come to Switch (or Switch 2 😮)- not sure about Playstation but who knows.

@PixelDragon I think it’s that Xbox finally has its exclusive train going, so seems to be shooting itself in the foot by putting one of them everywhere. Spiderman going on Xbox, for example, would probably not change much unless it started to become a pattern. It’s mixed messaging from Xbox for sure.

I ventured onto twitter for the first proper time in my life over the last couple of days. And seriously, the fanboys are out of control and it makes PushSquare look extremely tame in comparison; seriously gives another perspective.

Anyway the leaks are horrible but (excluding the personal data) the inconsistency in reporting is a joke. No one held back from Capcom, Microsoft, Rockstar etc. really disappointed in the bias for Insomniac. I agree it shouldn’t be covered but the others should also not have been covered.

Not sure why the employees at those other companies are any less human, or have any fewer feelings, than the people at Insomniac. Kinda Funny especially has shown what they are really about.

@CharlieChooChoo I can’t do that for every game? There isn’t enough time in the world. Not going to apologise for that even if someone on the internet thinks they can tell me to. Also I wasn’t critical of anyone. Have a good day 👍

@CharlieChooChoo well my comment wasn’t written to be immature or mature. It was just a thought; apologies that it upset you so much. Like I said, i’m not all-knowing. Yes i have had 10 years to find out why people like factions but instead I have done other things with my time? So it’s something I still don’t know. Not sure whats so wrong with that.

@CharlieChooChoo Okay? I’m allowed my opinion and others are allowed their own too. What is wrong with wondering “why” someone would like something you don’t? Then they can explain it to you and you can see it from their point of view… i’m not an all-knowing being.

I said “I don’t know why” something and you are calling me immature for not knowing “why”. But Charliechoochoo called me immature so I guess I must be.

Not looking good. Good for Sony I guess though - not sure how they have created this demand with all of their recent decisions but ok.

They should be thanking Square Enix and Insomniac.

@MrMagic it is still 12 (well, 11 now) but they just staggered them. Before it was 12 by 2025. Now it’s 6 by 2025 and 6 afterwards.

So “more than one” remaster of a single-player game probably (joke).

In all seriousness this is only a good thing. The Last of Us is a well made game but also had terribly boring gameplay in my opinion so I don’t know why anyone wanted Factions in the first place.

I saw this recently; it’s the 17th best selling game of all time. What the flip! I play it on Gamepass with 2 friends but the free level updates keep us coming back for a laugh every few months.

It’s less exclusionary than Spiderman and Wolverine are when they release so… 🤷‍♂️

Sony with that Rockstar money.

This is like a 2nd chance for those that missed all these games on Gamepass 😂

The ending of this game stayed with me. Seriously - check it out if you can.

It actually blew me away. I saw it coming but the last few seconds i got them chills. And i’m not talking about the obvious twists.

The rest of the storyline is messy but the gameplay and classes are fun. But yea that ending.

Say what you want but art does go into COD. People do work hard on it. I liked the joke but I can understand it’s not the place for it when it is supposed to be a celebration of the work in the industry throughout the year.

There could be some young talented devs who worked on COD and already got shat on at the biggest gaming event of the year. Not exactly a great encouragement. At least it was just about the length.

@Sil_Am does that mean Sony showed up with the money all the previous years?

Very cool but hope it’s not an exclusive.

There were some Activision studios helping with destiny development I believe. With Bungie x Sony and Activision x Xbox, I wonder what happens with something like that. Maybe it put a strain on Bungie.

But seriously don’t sell to Sony if you don’t want them to take over.

@AdamNovice regarding the Cross-gen exclusives thing: I get what you are saying but you are looking at it as Playstation vs Xbox. I think the other take, is for someone who is all in on Playstation and has a PS4; it might take them ages to save up for a PS5. And so when they get it, if they are playing games they could play on their PS4, that could be disappointing. So cross-gen wouldn’t count as exclusive from that perspective.

Thats not me btw; just a different take that should be considered. Not moving goalposts, just a general concern with the first couple years of this gen (on Xbox’s side as well), and I think it’s a fair take.

@Mephisto2869 yea you are right about that (thanks ShopTo!) so I guess that doesn’t count.

Isn’t this more about how Playstation have tried to wall off other resellers; whereas Xbox hasn’t? It’s not about a game selling for £70 digitally. If that is the cost, that is the cost. But the lawsuit is about the fact there is no other method to obtain that digital game so therefore Sony can keep the price there or raise it and there is nothing you can do about it (in terms of purchasing it - of course you could just not buy it but thats not the point). With Xbox you have CDKeys selling a game code, usually a couple of quid cheaper than the Xbox store. When Xbox puts its games on sale, so does CDKeys to keep it cheaper. It’s a choice for the consumer and it forces competition. I think almost everyone is taking this out of context and defending Sony without understanding it? Or have I got this all wrong since the first 50 or so comments are coming from a different angle…

Also now people are saying PS games aren’t a necessity so the laws shouldn’t apply. But yet Microsoft acquiring companies shouldn’t happen because of monopolies (apparently) yet Xbox games aren’t a necessity either. Facepalm. The fanboys are real.

Also anyone mentioning physical games - this is about digital games.

Finally a game not set in New York!

@Nem it’s very good value. each to their own but i’ve played a LOT of games on gamepass to completion. And life is too short to play them again. So losing them in the future is fine. Its a rental service and it works for me. I got the 1000gs in LAD Gaiden already for instance. I’m very unlikely to ever play that £45 game again in my life. But it was awesome. And great to play it on the sub.

@Rafie No you are right i’m being dumb. I got my PS3 in 2008. Well I had plus in 2011 as there was an outage I remember so I guess from then. And then I feel I missed a year (or some months) in the PS4 gen at some point as I remember not being able to claim some Vita games. But yea I will get FOMO on the free games but I never end up playing them anyway.

First year (or maybe second) since 2008 I won’t have it. Not going to miss it.

@themightyant You are right yes Xbox has all these revenue streams; above and beyond just the consoles sold. But I just really would hate for them to go third-party, which I think a good few people here hope for.

@Nem you say Gamepass is a bait and switch; but I have been enjoying it for years for very little upfront cost. Not sure what is wrong with that? Everyone who has spent the last few years saying it’s “unsustainable” etc has actually just been missing out on its incredible value. Even if they were to pull the rug out from us and destroy the value of gamepass - it’s already happened - we have already had the value. You just missed out on it.

@Intr1n5ic Matt Booty wrote an email about 3 or 4 years ago talking about spending Playstation out of the business.

Whats that got to do with what I said? You made it about what Xbox is doing. I’m saying if there is a lack of competition in the industry it can cause issues going forward. If Xbox bought Nintendo; that is not healthy either. If Playstation buys Konami; that could be beneficial as they were being passive and not releasing games (that is starting to change now) etc etc. But thanks for bringing up something completely random? Kind of proving my point about the fanboy standpoint.

Also I get it you are mocking the word “healthy” but it’s a relevant term that can be applied to the state of an industry so… yea.

If anything this is a bad thing overall. Good for Playstation/Sony as a company but… barely benefits any of the gamers and without the competition from Xbox will be a massive downward spiral in innovation (not that PS has too much as it is) pricing, and pushing the industry forward.

You should all be hoping it was more neck and neck.

It’s kind of mindblowing (and not at the same time) that people will argue from a fanboy standpoint rather than a “I want the video games industry to be healthy long into the future” standpoint.

@DonaldMcRonald I wouldn’t really say Spiderman is an original IP either…

Having finished Like A Dragon Gaiden: TMWEHN last night; i’m pretty hyped for this. I hope it’s as good as Like A Dragon (2020).

But I hope it’s not too long it stops me playing…that said, if you power through the stories they aren’t all actually that long.

Love how Remake was set in Midgar and Rebirth is set in South Park.

Im at a point where I really wish they would just focus on making games fun and worry less about how pretty they look. There is a point of diminishing returns - and i’m not really someone who uses photo mode etc.

They definitely need more variety in their first party line-up. The console itself is good (on the inside at least) but I find games like The Last of Us so boring and even found Ragnarok boring too. But I can’t say it’s just linear cinematic games I don’t like because i’m over here blasting through Like A Dragon Gaiden (on gamepass). Hard to know what they could do to make PS better in my eyes but these days it’s less and less for me. SSD is great though - and the dualsense is cool but I feel like it peaked with Astrobot!

@lightningbolt79 @ShogunRok Yea I agree with Lightning, Shogun you are literally speculating. Even if it’s easy to do or is obvious - it’s still speculation?

@Grumblevolcano did it say it was going to be completely replaced? Because if not then it’s just as much a push as Sony’s machines.

Damn all the articles about who the main spiderman going forward is were marked as spoilers. I come here and the comments just vomit it up immediately. Thanks… i guess.

I guess the issue is with everyone who voted initially in these things; have they actually played all the games? I certainly haven’t.

@Tr3mm0r Who is going to tell this guy where Playstation comes from…

Started Dead Space Remake on Gamepass and considering noping out of it as I don’t have the balls. On chapter 3 at the moment on medium. Considering just wacking it down to story difficulty to smash through it (don’t judge me!).

Not interested to spend full price at launch but happy to play this down the line. Insomniac (and SE) are carrying PS5 at this point IMO.

Hopefully the next guy brings back the fun

Can’t wait for Sunset Overdrive 2 to come out and be only on Playstation and see how supportive everyone here will be of it. Also as I said on PX; try and be nice, people. I know that is a lot to ask of the PS community.

If this is the endgame for the trilogy then… that sucks. Surely there is a bigger plan than this.

@ATaco there was actually a small dlc on the Xbox 360 version that gave you a hideout where you could cure your own vampirism (off the top of my head thats how I remember it at least). I had the same issue as you but just bought that for like £1 and got a cool cave as a bonus 🤣

@gigagaia kind of silly to call something like Oblivion or Fallout 3 a “piece of trash”. You may not like them but they are very good video games and that is a massive disservice to call them that. There are pieces of trash out there and these aren’t it.

@awp69 I hope those that have commented here can look back on this thread in a few years time and remember how mature and calm they used to be.

@RoomWithaMoose whilst I really am not a fan of current Sony and can’t believe i’m actually defending them; in the case of your comment regarding pumping out exclusives at an insane rate - No one can get games out as quick as they used to - it just doesn’t happen any more. Not even Insomniac or Obsidian can keep up the rate games used to come out at. We got like Ocarina of Time, Majoras Mask and Wind Waker in the space of 4/5 years (as well as the Oracle games from a different dev) Same with Final Fantasy VII to X. Crazy times. I would much preferred that had continued than to move to these more insane dev times but there we go.

@PixelDragon a question no one seems to ask when one of the Playstation Studios games are at the top. Glad Push Square etc try and post the combined Physical/Digital totals more now as they are actually relevant.

@Rols whilst sales would have been higher, I don’t think they would have “more than doubled”. You think more people would buy on Playstation than PC and Xbox combined? Remember it’s on Steam too. The only way that works is if you only count physical (which is… dumb).

Whilst those screenshots are pretty; I don’t really care so much how it looks (diminishing returns at this point) - just hope it is fun and brings something new to the table since the first 2 games. Not sure how I feel about the same gameplay loop at full price. This is a “wait for a sale” for me.

The damage control from the usuals is hilarious. But anyway Playstation are desperately trying to position themselves as a premium product but I don’t think they have earnt it.