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I will stick to my backwards compatible version until this is dirt cheap.

@scoobdoo so original!

I remember on DW2 it was a bit of an achievement to get to 1000 kills in a single stage. Good times.

@Cikajovazmaj it’s for the headline. It doesn’t last on Gamepass long either. Would be better if they both stopped wasting their money on it!

“Your arms come off”

“No it hasn’t”

@ShogunRok sounds like they picked Tango and Austin since they were the 2 farthest from releasing a new project (still at the pitching stage).

For those that don’t see the big deal, I guess be grateful that you are in countries that have access to PSN. Maybe appreciate that for those that aren’t, they would lose access to a game they paid for and, perhaps more importantly, were enjoying,

Just because it doesn’t affect you doesn’t mean it’s not a thing. 🤦‍♂️

I think Valve was actually the one to basically say to Sony - “stop being *****, we are giving out refunds on your behalf and if you continue this ***** we won’t list your future games”.

Removing access is thick. Stop defending Sony’s behaviour. They are withdrawing access to a game people have paid for. Just to get their MAU up to even compete with Xbox’s. Sony get hacked so often

Ultimate Otaku in full on damage control mode as usual. 😅

@Juanalf they are all available on Xbox!

I hope this doesn’t happen to be honest, even if it is inevitable. Just my opinion. Do people want Nintendo to do the same? That would be horrible too. Each should continue with their first party identity.

This will make the gaming industry a lot less interesting.

@Yorozayu well budgets do come into it. It’s not a case of 2m copies sold being “good” or “bad”. It depends how much they spent to achieve that.

If GTA6 sold 2 million it would be a disaster, for example.

But seriously, time to ditch the BS exclusivity now Square Enix.

After reading all this i’m glad i’m just playing it on Xbox.

@Ludacritz Larian 100% want to work on their own IP now after BG3s success.

Been revisiting New Vegas on Series X and will hop back into F4 when the update drops to finish up some DLC achievements. Love these games.

Man Xbox IPs are dominating right now. So much so that you might have Fallout and Sea of Thieves competing with eachother.

@andrewsqual you might wanna re-check that. Grounded full release was 2022. Same year as Pentiment. The quiet Xbox year.

@Flaming_Kaiser well it’s not hard it’s just not what I was talking about. You randomly changed the subject? For the record, I agree and dislike when I hear the “wait for it to hit Gamepass” thing. But look at Fallout - it’s all on Gamepass and it’s currently topping the charts on Xbox. I have around 750 digitally owned games on Xbox.

Anyway the incredible Xbox games I was referring to are going to be the ones you have heard before. You want me to basically list all the exclusives, whats the point just use google. The Gears of War series is one of my favourite of all time. The variety on Xbox completely outclasses Playstation in my opinion.

@thefourfoldroot1 for once I agree with you. Trophies on a SteamDeck is awesome.

@Flaming_Kaiser what? We are talking about the fact people say oh “rent on xbox or buy on ps” when you can still buy on Xbox too. Hence the choice. Im not talking about the games themselves.

But Xbox does have incredible games. The industry just ***** on them until they come to Playstation

@GamingFan4Lyf It’s a really dumb narrative people push to make PS sound superior when it actually has less choice.

No thanks. Really don’t care about this stuff anymore. Just give me fun games - that’s all I actually give a ***** about. As I said on another thread, I managed to play through both Starfield and Final Fantasy XVI (and what i’ve played of Rebirth) in 30FPS, and haven’t thrown up once. I’m just enjoying the games.

Plus for those that say the Series S holds back the X; same situation here. Enjoy!

If the Series S holds back the X - not sure how the Base PS5 won’t hold this back; but there we go.

@Player_1_Ready @SegaDude7 Yea supposedly Xbox would be in for the next generation instead of a Pro. All rumours though, as is this article.

If we can see this then Media Molecule can see this too. Perhaps they will be inspired by Toys for Bob and request to split off; as expensive and daunting as that might be.

Reason i’m saying this is because I feel like we’ve seen this before about MM. It feels inevitable.

@Dragoon1994 Spyro and Crash are already Xbox IPs; so it would be Xbox’s decision if their next instalments are multiplatform or exclusive.

I feel like this was a case of the studio being closed due to layoffs; but they wanted to keep going themselves and convinced (financially? Or with exclusivity deals?) Xbox to let them keep their studio name.

@somnambulance I highly doubt that - they never owned them in the first place.

This is kinda wild but if thats what they want then good for them - they are a very small studio now 😕

I hate rushing media to avoid spoilers so as @freddquadros said, some will probably get to me. Hate that people do it but can’t stop them unfortunately. Just don’t click that *****. Who is clicking it?

@MrMagic I didn’t expect that I could change your mind. I’ve seen your comments and can see how much you hate Xbox 😂.

Anyway regardless, I don’t think you should skip good games for some random pony fanboy angle. Sea of Thieves is awesome and I wish I had more time to play it. But upto you.

@MrMagic you know it’s completely voluntary/optional right (except first party)? Xbox could offer an Indie Developer £1m to put their game on Gamepass and they can take it or leave it. No gun to their head.

The only issue I see with Gamepass being around as an option is some people waiting for games to hit the service - but that can be fixed with transparency. E.g. Larian saying Baldur’s Gate won’t be on Gamepass.

Imagine being that desperate for Gamepass to fail. Why does it affect you @MrMagic? Because it’s a positive on the Xbox side?

Also yea most people already have a Microsoft account of some sort so no issue here.

I know i’m bringing Xbox into it so apologies in advance but hear me out:

Xbox bringing the smaller titles like Pentiment over to other consoles will hopefully let us see smaller titles like that in the future. Now whilst I think it should have just been kept as an exclusive; it’s a much better alternative than shutting the studio.

My point being that instead of gatekeeping for the sake of it and now shutting the smaller studios; Playstation could have pivoted like Xbox and released their smaller games multiplat eventually. I know it was Pixelopus and not London Studio but I don’t think anyone was buying a Playstation for Concrete Genie for example.

If anyone here hasn’t heard Lost Odyssey’s soundtrack, it’s possibly one of the best I have ever heard from him. Just incase anyone hasn’t had a chance to play it - check out the music.

@Nepp67 ah nice thanks. Much better!

@Nepp67 wait, i’m sorry what!

You can’t just access these like in FFXV; you can only play them in sequence with the story?

@Nepp67 yea maybe playing them together would make it one decent package rather than piecemeal.

But tbh I just don’t know if I care to revisit the story unless it was set after the ending.

I enjoyed the game and the story but not sure these “missing chapter” DLCs do much for me. I haven’t bothered with the first DLC yet.

Will keep an eye on it though to see if the second is any better/worthwhile.

@Nyne11Tyme it sounds like Insomniac, and therefore Sony do own the IP for Sunset Overdrive. However Xbox put a clause into the exclusivity that they get first rights to upto 2 sequels and even any remasters.

So if Playstation released a Sunset Overdrive PS5 version they would have to include a Series X version.

Queue the uproar that it’s first person!

@Nem thats a shame. All 4 are great games. Though Grounded and SoT in multiplayer.

Damn everyone wants to play Xbox games, huh!

Or just play them on Xbox!

@Voltan yea I remember that but still unsure about the “death cult” comment…

@nessisonett Death cult?

Gears of War is far and away Xbox’s best first party ongoing series and one of my favourite series of all time.

Also I remember Naughty Dog saying a lot of the gameplay in Uncharted 1 was inspired by the first Gears of War.

@Nem you have a real issue with putting words in my mouth.

1. I said lack of competition. Not “no” competition. I am aware Nintendo exist. Sony wishes they were Nintendo.

2. I didn’t imply your opinion is worth less. You were talking about how much you hate Xbox all of a sudden which was a tangent from the discussion. You are entitled to your opinion.

3. The controller I was referring to, which I said in my comment, is the accessibility controller. Which Playstation just copied. Feel free to look it up if you don’t know what it is.

Stop crying about things I never even said in the first place.

@Nem when did I pretend Nintendo doesn’t exist? They destroy both Xbox and Playstation in terms of innovation.

I already listed things Xbox helped introduce. But another is the accessibility controller which makes gaming possible for so many people around the world.

But you just went off on one about Xbox that shows you clearly just hate them; which isn’t what I was talking about.

@lacerz isn’t that because the 100% is split amongst the games. So Gears having 11% means 11% of the points went to gears. It just means that opinions are split more evenly amongst the games than if one game had 50%. There are a lot of choices.

It’s not sad it’s just statistics?

Just a reminder that for those saying “we told you the ABK acquisition would be bad - now look at whats happened to Xbox”, try not to cheer on Xbox exiting the console race so much. Might seem good to team blue in the short term but lack of competition in the console space is not a good thing. Because of Xbox, Playstation has trophies, a better subscription service and potentially backwards compatibility.

Also remember when consoles are being revealed and how obvious it is that Xbox and Playstation are waiting to see who announces the price first? To see what they can get away with? Yea that will be gone as they can charge whatever they like, the upgrades will be incremental etc.

Also just look at Crunchyroll.

Imagine if US websites gave this much thought to European countries. Digital is the way to go these days anyway especially with new content dropping, e.g. the gold edition content.

Probably the best thing Playstation is doing right now IMO. There is more than just Europe/USA/Japan out there in terms of talent. It’s time we got a different take on things.

Imagine getting your WRPGs and your JRPGs but also having Middle Eastern RPGs or African RPGs for a completely different experience. As an example.