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Has anyone who doesn't own Hitman 3 got this to work? I think the previous entries require the 3rd game to start.

Thanks for the heads up! this is pretty neat, but I wonder if it's an oversight that will be rectified soon.

I still can't get over how confusing the way the Hitman trilogy is presented to the customer. I was waiting for a trilogy bundle with everything included, but now we've received 1 & 2 already I might as well just wait for 3 to come to + too. Their bizarre approach to selling games has meant they've got no money from me at all in the end and I was a big fan of the series in the beginning.

@Marquez Yeah, I don't think I'll ever agree with the points you make. They seem like standard progression to me and should come part and parcel with buying a new console.

I think the only people who are OK with this are the ones to gain from it by working in the industry, people who have money to burn or journalists who get games for free or can claim the costs back in tax. It's simply shafting everyone else.

Either way, they have soured my excitement for this game now. Instead of looking forward to its release, I'm now happy to wait for a second hand copy of the definitive version. Hopefully enough other people will do the same so they have to rethink the prices this gen. We've seen here how quickly they back track, it really wouldn't take much to make them do the right thing.

@Marquez so...

3D audio is also included with PS4 games.

The SSD and faster loading is something that comes with having a better console and we should not have to pay to use it every time we buy a game. The same goes for higher resolutions and frame rates.

Smaller files sizes? Really? You think it's OK to charge extra for that?

Which leaves dual sense implementation. Surely this is something that should just come as standard and be expected when you buy a PS5. You honestly feel OK having to pay an extra £10 to use it? As I've mentioned before, if it was a case of turning on dual sense in the settings menu took you to the store to pay £10 for every single game you buy, you'd be OK with that?

The way they're approaching dual releases has shown them up for the tosh they've been spouting. Fair enough, if it's only a PS5 release I can understand a slightly higher cost at the beginning of a generation, because of the lower customer base. But as soon as they try to get a piece of the PS4 pie they really should concede the extra charge as the game has inevitably been held back on PS5 in order to run on PS4 in the first place.

@get2sammyb so you feel that having to pay an extra £10 for a higher settings option is right?

If the game is a dual release it should be £60 on both platforms with a free upgrade from PS4 to 5. Why people seem to be OK with the new attempts to class different versions of the same game is baffling to me. As others have said, you would never get away with charging more for different settings on PC games. Imagine if you had to pay £10 to unlock 4k, 60fs in the settings. It's gross.

This is definitely the straw that broke the camels back for me. I will now wait for a definitive edition and only buy second hand a few years down the line. Their greed has left me feeling very reluctant to give them any more money directly.

Are Sony actually trying to push me towards Xbox and Gamepass? Talk about having your cake and eating it. If they wanted to go for the £70 version they should have made it a PS5 exclusive or made both versions £60. I am starting to develop a serious dislike for Sony this gen.

So everyone is just OK with them charging extra for the PS5 version for no good reason other than greed, huh? That's where we are now? It's all just become a simple classing system that can easily be abused going forward.

I'm definitely waiting for the inevitable directors cut second hand after feeling severely burnt by Ratchet and Clank. Good thing I'll have Elden Ring and BOTW2 next year, much better games at nearly half the price.

@AFCC I have to agree with you. After getting through it, the game was fine, but no where near good enough to warrant all this time and effort. I get that they want to get the next gen version done, but I really hope they have the sense to move on as soon as possible.

@get2sammyb "Can’t believe people still won’t buy a game if it’s not on a disc"... sorry, couldn't resist.

Ahhhh, so this is the cat bumhole photography game my friend was obsessed with a few years back.

As much as l am glad the first one was made, why on Earth would they want to make another one? It's not the kind of game that requires a sequel at all. Why not just make something new, it's not like Kojima wouldn't get the backing. Bizarre decision if true.

I hope it's an open world game where you have to survive and do runs for your camp etc. It would also be nice if it was possible to come across strangers and talk or trade without every encounter ending in bloodshed. This is my main hope for the progression in The Last of Us 3.

I enjoyed fractions a lot and I'll obviously give it a go if it's a free service game. But if they try to charge £70 for a multiplayer game full of microtransactions they can forget it.

I'll wait for it to come to PS+ 🤪

I refuse to look! Please stop putting images of the game in thumbnails, especially enemies and bosses, pretty please.

I wish they'd add an option to defer a month or even just give you an extra week for every game they offer that's already in your library. I bought Overcooked recently and I did enjoy it, but I can't help but feel a bit miffed. All it does is put me off buying any indie games or anything digitally. At least if I have the physical version I get the convenience of playing it digitally and have a long term copy to keep too.

I think that Returnal is the only game I've played on PS5 that would be massively compromised on the previous consoles. Not impossible, but it wouldn't be the same experience. All the others so far have essentially been a nice luxury.

After spending over 400 hours playing and loving it and managing the platinum trophy, I think it should be made law that Rockstar make sure I don't find out about a PS5 version.

Are these sponsored awards or something? Bizarre.

Whilst I enjoyed Hades, I found it to be grossly overrated. It's a very good game, but not nearly as amazing as everyone keeps saying it is.

At this point you have to wonder if GTA V has become sentient and is now buying copies of itself to stay relevant.

I would like this.

I know the journalists in the industry are desperate for a constant stream of click bait... bait and what's next info, but I've had a great year with the PS5 and I'm personally enjoying a bit of down time and the switch's turn to give out some new releases.

It would be nice to know more about new games, but with Metroid Dread, Advance Wars, No More Heroes 3 and Shin Megami Tensai 3, followed by Elden Ring in the new year, I don't really need to know anything else for the next six months at least.

As someone who does like anime I have no interest in this unless it's added to the existing sub. How much time do they think people have? It's at a point where they'll be competing with themselves for our attention. I barely have enough time to play one of the + games every month alongside the games I buy on PS4/5 and Switch.

I think they would need to lower advertising to a more reasonable level in the free version for me to even consider spending some of my time on Crunchyroll.

I'd like to see The Warriors and Manhunt get a lick of paint.

I hope it's not restricted to vr so more people can play it. They should at least be considering a non vr version.

It's all about the switch for the rest of 2021. It's crazy that Sony doesn't have anything on offer to look forward to for the holidays. Not that I'm complaining mind, I've got plenty to play and Deathloop should be about £20 24 hours after release.

I agree with others here, the game really needs weapons of some sort. It also needs to give the player a car they like, can keep and customise. The idea of switching random cars was novel, but in practice gives no ownership or feeling of progress.

Noticing these free to play online games are starting to creep in more often now. I'd rather they didn't bother to be honest.

I do wish Sony would offer a bigger selection over a year and let us pick a few games games each month or something. I just want a couple of small digital only indie games that look interesting, but I would never pay money for and I'd be happy.

A solid 8, a good game but it is very repetitive. After nearly finishing Days Gone the two games have a lot in common. They're almost the same game in lots of ways. It's interesting how one got dismissed and the other lauded.

@Rhaoulos I've already saved well over $100 ordering physical copies for my PS5 at £50-55 or even less instead of the £69.99 most have to spend for digital copies, so there's that to consider I suppose.

This has to be the first time where a console I bought less than a year ago is worth more than what I paid for it. Weird times.

@Blackjay Have you played Demon's Souls? You have to go back to your body to pick up your stuff lost on death and you are invaded by another player trying to stop you beating the boss. Tightly designed areas that have unlocking shortcuts each time you play. Sound familiar?

I suppose to your credit it is more that the design has been lifted and not the mechanics, so I changed my original comment to express this.

Not really, no. Deathloop looks like a frustrating soulslike wannabe. As much as I love the Soulsborne games can't anyone come up with anything new anymore? Why does everyone have to lift Miyazaki's decade old game design?

Do they seriously expect us to buy every game again? This is really getting out of hand. Buying any game first time round seems like a mug's game now. I was about halfway through the PS4 version and looking forward to picking it up again on PS5, but now I just feel like an idiot for buying in the first time round.

Not a great thing to put in your advert as it will probably end up with a flood of calls from people putting their discs in upside down... or downside up... one of the two.

I enjoyed this game, the only thing that annoyed me was that you couldn't choose to have the French characters speak French and English ones speak English. It's either one or the other so either the heroes or villains are not speaking their native language. A minor nitpick really, but they've recorded the voices for both so it would be an easy option to add and would help the immersion a lot for me.

Poor old Deathloop, everyone knows it's going to be a good game, but we also know it'll be on sale for £20 in a few months too. It's funny, if they had waited to announce it and this presentation was the first time I'd heard or seen anything about the game I'd probably be more likely to buy it on release. As it is, it already feels like an old game that I'm a bit sick off hearing about.

At this point just move on. I'm so tired of this constant desire to string out previous releases. It really doesn't affect me really cause I got my fill and don't want any more, but it's a shame to see them carry on dragging out every release with updates and extra bits and pieces. Meh, I'm getting old I think, I like a complete experience that starts and ends with the possibility of another complete sequel at some point that evolves and improves the original down the line.

Ghosts of Tsushima was good, but the last thing I want is just more of the same. That was the fundamental problem with the original release.

I wish they'd stop chucking in Call of Duty games, I've got so many of them now and I'm not interested. Anyone who is buys them every year anyway, so it just feels like a papering over the cracks really. With the amount of microtransactions they should all be free anyway.

What a strange decision. It's not like anyone who has the plus version is going to buy the upgrade after this and all they've done is put me off playing the version I have and spread a load of bad will.

Good move by Sony. Returnal is one of the best games I've played for a long time. It's up there with the soulsborne games and coming from me that's a huge compliment.

The sooner they can move on from this project the better. I think they just need to keep quiet now until the new gen versions are ready, then release them and move on asap. The game itself really isn't anywhere good enough to deserve all this attention and time.

@Titntin it's not so much that I care what others think, it's more that if it was to come up in conversation I would feel embarrassed to say that I'd spent this much money on a game. It makes me realise I've passed a point of what I think I should spend on a piece of entertainment.

Even my best mate who works as a designer at a fairly big studio is like "How much!" When I told him how much I paid for a Ratchet and Clank game and he works in the industry.

Seems like Sony are creating a lot of bad vibes with their pricing this generation. I know they want more for each game, but the last thing you want when people buy your products is to feel like they've been done and constantly have how much they've spent at the back of their minds whilst using it.

I did enjoy Ratchet and Clank, but I spent the whole time playing it thinking "I've paid too much for this game." and that cost me £55 with some store credit applied. Even as someone who can afford games at these prices, I'm a little embarrassed about how much I've spent on some of them and would actually keep it a secret from a lot of people I know cause they would be shocked if I told them.

What about 1 and 2 for switch? I would have thought they would be a priority.

Not this again, haha. The difficulty is built into Miyazaki's games. There has always been an 'easy' mode, calling friends for co-op, wearing certain armour, focusing on strength builds with high vitality etc.

When people ask for an easy option what they are really asking for is a win button or invincibility. At that point you might as well watch a play through on YouTube.

I was too busy enjoying Ratchet and Clank to notice it was even happening. Metroid 5 and Advance Wars reboot will be amazing though, very excited for them and Elden Ring of course.

I don't think it's a coincidence that Sony released a big title over the E3 weekend. Honestly, I'd much rather get a quality game to play while all the posturing goes on than sit through a bunch of CG trailers for games two years away then check out the highlights later on.

Pirate's curse of one of those bizarre anomalies where the Switch lrg version is selling for hundreds or even thousands on eBay. No reason for it whatsoever other than it must have not sold many during the run window. I like to pick up the Switch games I want from them, but the prices and rigged scarcity is fascinating to me. It's all getting very close to NFT territory or even alchemy, turning normal material into gold. If the lrg guys have any sense they'll be storing batches of each game to sell on eBay a few years later.

I don't understand why they don't try and do some kind of left 4 dead style game in the RE franchise. It's perfect for it and they can fill their boots with cosmetic microtransactions and season pass nonsense.

If they really wanted to go for it they could use classic locations like the mansion and police station. There could be a few puzzles to solve with the aim being to survive the night or something. There you go Capcom, your can have that one for free.