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All this pomp for what could be a few tweets attached to short video clips. It's so strange how announcements of announcements has become such a thing.

@Rhaoulos agreed it's a bit strange. I think it should only be one. Personally, I picked four other games I knew wouldn't win so I don't add points to games that might beat my first choice (Returnal) like Resi Village or Ratchet and Clank.

Should be allowed to pick Returnal five times and only Returnal five times.

I hope this means that they will drop the need for subs to play games online. Then I can ignore all this nonsense.

Meh

No words

It would be pretty ironic if the game awards announced dlc for the best game of the year whilst also not even nominating it in goty category.

It's not so much the trophies I care about, but I do care about getting platinum trophies for specific games I love. I'd rather have a neat collection of great game platinums than as many as possible.

I'm officially off the new console hype train now. Returnal and Demon's Souls were the only games worth the £50 I paid on release.

£50 for Ratchet and Clank left me feeling like a right plonker after I finished it a couple days after I got it. It's definitely the game that has made me realise I can wait for a year or so for definitive versions of the big releases at quarter the price.

Ironic really, as I image Sony see R&C as a huge success that justifies the huge price tag, but for me it's the game that made me spend less on other releases going forward.

I need to go back and finish it at some point, but this doesn't sound like it fixes the issue I have with the AI. If you can still just stand outside a room and kill everyone as they politely queue up to get shot then it's still not the game I'm looking for.

I dunno, I wanted to like it, but spent the whole time playing it thinking I should have been enjoying myself more than I was.

Jim and Sony: do not condone harassment and abuse in the work place.

Also Jim and Sony: happy to continue to profit from products built on harassment and abuse.

Did anyone actually play Returnal? For it to not even be considered in the discussion is baffling. As much as enjoyed Metroid Dread, even that is trumped by Returnal. I must have a bizarre taste in games or something. It's almost like it hasn't be nominated to stop it from winning.

They should probably stop hyping it up to avoid the consistent disappointment it usually turns out to be and just say it'll be another video game advertisement marathon like it has been every other year.

Meh

It's an EA game, so I will avoid it.

The industry is genuinely heading in a direction I am not down with. I have already felt my interest waning this gen as it is.

Starting to feel a bit like the 'old man shouts at Gaas cloud' guy.

Played this on switch, 6/10 is very harsh imo. Easily a 7 if not an 8.

This was clearly the best game released this year with Metroid Dread a close second. Glad that it's getting some recognition. I think it's main issue is that not enough people have played it due to the high price, ps5 availability and emphasis on difficulty.

I have to say as a PS5 owner, what the hell has happened? Where are the games... any games that show off what the console can do? Are there actually any PS5 exclusive games announced to look forward to at the moment? If it wasn't for Elden Ring I'd probably think about selling my PS5 and coming back in 3 or 4 years when there's actually something impressive to play without being fleeced £70 for cross-gen and rereleases. Starting to feel like I should have gone for a PC this gen.

State of Dismay more like.

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When the acting in the games is better than the movie you know something ain't right. Such awful casting.

I don't know why games companies announce dates anymore. Why not just announce the game or release with no date and wait until they know it's ready?

So it looks like PC for me in the future. Strange decision from a business point of view in my opinion, but it's always better if more people can play the best games.

Pretty much given up on ps+ now, it seems like Sony have too.

Sorry, but it's been highly overrated. The ai is incredibly stupid to the point where it spoils the game for me.

What's the point in doing anything when you can simply stand in a doorway and mow down waves of enemies while they run at you like lemmings? Giving this game a 10 in a review is a crime.

The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that the 'finished' version of the game will be released on gamepass in a year's time.

The answer is 6 is the best, with 7, 8 & 9 also being pretty great.

I'm still amazes me that 10 is held in such high regard. The awful characters and voice acting made the game unplayable to the point where I gave up on it and pretty much the series. It also stands as the point where Japanese game companies thought that annoying whiny American teens are the standard voice actors for pretty much every rpg protagonist. A sad day indeed. It basically made me realise that the people who make final fantasy had completely different ideas about who the characters were and the way they came across. 12 is the only one I've played to completion since, which was ok, but still not a classic.

Is there any point in Game Informer doing reviews or even existing at all at this point? They seem to throw out 9s like candy, and clearly pander to the heavy hitters who throw them exclusive access and lavish parties.

Pull the lever!

PS+ has already given me more than the years sub price in value this year, but damn, the last few months have been pretty lackluster.

What happened to all those neat little Indies we were getting on PS5 like Bugsnax, Oddworld, Marquette and Maneater? Getting one game like this every month was more appealing than Gamepass for me personally.

TLOU2 Director's Cut with Fractions and a £20 upgrade probably.

@Quintumply that's awesome, thanks for the reply.

This is a bit confusing, I left the game about a 20 hours in and I'm keen to pick it up again on PS5.

Does anyone know how the trophies work? Will I have to start those from scratch on the PS5 version or will they carry over with the save file?

I have also noticed that my PS5 doesn't crash in rest mode anymore, not yet anyway. I don't leave in rest much anyway, but it's nice to have the option if I'm stopping for a few hours.

Not really, I'd rather see more games like Returnal, with new protagonists. In a recent questionnaire they asked if I'd like to see more of Selene from Returnal, which completely misses the point. I really liked her as a main character, but that doesn't mean I need to see her again in another game. What I liked most was it was someone new. The Marvel stuff is fine and everything, but it seems to kill anything else from getting a chance in Cinema. I'd hate to see this happen in games too.

So you're telling me that the whole hook they were presenting and selling this game on in the PS5 showcase won't actually be in the game when you're playing it? How is this any different from a CG trailer? Why is this OK?

With the PS5 exclusive backtracking and the upgrade nonsense, Sony have really been applying some questionable marketing tactics recently.

Yeah, I call *****, this is mainly so they can keep a current flow of advertising and microtransactions in the game in my opinion. If it really was about cheating they would add an option to play a campaign completely offline.

That's no moon.

@naruball you're completely right, but it's our own fault at consumers who demand a constant stream of information and click on articles like this one. To be fair, this instance is slightly more than a rumour though.

I've always wondered what would change if we could take our clicks, engagement or views back as a show of disliking something.

It is interesting, but it's also a bit like saying:

Elders Scrolls 6
FIFA 2023
Fallout 5
Mario game
Assassin's creed monkdom
Far cry 7

You get the idea.

It's sad to see so many sequels, which probably make it all completely real. Aren't they're any new titles or were known ones only selected for this article?

Everyone and their dog knows this should have been a free update. They have finally become a meme and really should have just moved on, keeping some dignity.

@MakersMark I wouldn't feel too bad for us, ha ha. We've had Demon's Souls, Astrobot, Returnal and Ratchet and Clank which have all been excellent games. I was hoping for more innovative new titles though.

The Switch/PS5 combo is working for me pretty well with a bunch of great Nintendo games to tide me over until some of the future PS5 games drop a bit in price. But, if I'm honest I think Sony are making some arrogant and downright greedy decisions going forward and it's putting me off wanting to support them now.

I thought the £70 pricing was to cover the lower customer base, lack of PS4 versions and would eventually come back to earth after a while, but it appears not. Now they've backtracked on PS5 exclusive games it's obvious that they want to charge us a premium to use the features of a £500 console we've already paid for at £10 for every game we buy. I'm not OK with this at all.

I've just realised that this is so they can constantly update with adverts. Oh dear, if that's the case then the game should be free to play. It's one thing putting in ads for realism and taking advantage of that, but hobbling a game with online only so they can shove more and more ads into a £70 game. Gross.

Shame, I was quite excited for this when I first got the PS5. Now it's become an online only game it's lost all worth to me as something to look forward to and get on release. Now I'll wait until I see it cheap.

I thought that the whole Sony Studios thing was to offer solid, complete experiences that avoid all the microtransaction, online only nonsense. Wasn't this the whole base for the argument for charging £70?

@daveofduncan I did say personally and Ratchet and Clank wasn't exactly innovative. In my opinion Returnal is an exceptional game that I will continue to play throughout this generation. I was done with R&C after 25 hours and one playthrough. It simply doesn't compare in regards to gameplay depth.

I would bet that Returnal will still be spoken about in 5 years whereas R&C will barely be remembered.

At this point I fully expect GTA6 to be a game about a criminal in prison with nothing but GTA5 to play.

Whoever is in charge of things this generation clearly doesn't actually play video games. Every single decision is geared towards squeezing as much money from their loyal fans as possible, instead of genuinely trying to move the medium forward. I honestly think these decisions will come back to bite them in the a$$/ar$e.

If they try to charge for this... again... they really are taking the pi$$. I suppose this explains why the Lost Legacy was never given away on PS+.

I wonder if Sony regret ponying up for that sweet sweet timed exclusivity now. Neither game will make back the money they probably spent and it'll be Microsoft that benefits the most from them eventually.

With the relentless desperate marketing and the Bethesda buy out, the interest has really died and that deal to seal these games had seriously backfired. Part of me thinks that Sony should have brushed them under the carpet or given them away with PS+ as a little up yours to Phil and crew. I'm sure the contract wouldn't allow that though.

It was OK, but nothing mind blowing. One thing is for certain Sony first party really aren't going for innovation. All the games will be good though I'm sure.

If it wasn't for Returnal this gen would have felt very stagnant. I'm not sure I'll get a better first party Sony game this gen personally.

With Elden Ring and Breath of the Wild 2 (games of a generation) coming for me next year it really doesn't matter what they show. I've decided to leave all the £70 exclusives a few years going forward, until I can find them for a more reasonable price with patches and dlc included.

I guess I'm lucky that I get two games in one year which will pretty much do me for a couple of years. Anything else is a bonus.

Still, it would be nice if they did come out with some genuine surprises. A GTA6 reveal is the only thing that would cause a serious ripple in the industry. Especially if they get some kind of exclusivity.