@KillerBoy That’s my stance right now. Of course I’m really looking forward to some Switch 2 next year and those Nintendo big first party games. Hopefully we will get one from Sony next year 🤣. Joking a side they should have two for next year at least.
@UltimateOtaku91 I will stick with Sony and Switch then probably Switch 2. Of course they are all a business but the way they did PS5 Pro anniversary bundle was pure hard business on gamers.
@UltimateOtaku91 Sony are pushing their luck with me lately. The arse I am like I left Xbox last month Sony are working their way slowly to the top of my hit list now.
@KillerBoy Also don’t forget the PS5 Pro anniversary bundle that you can’t buy as the console in its own. And have to have the edge controller and not a common sense disc drive bundled instead.
They are really pushing their luck with me Sony and I’m such an arse just like I left Xbox last month, Sony are starting to make their way onto my hit list.
@UltimateOtaku91 Yeah I normally get through about £700 at Christmas as well. I’m thinking about it still, but knowing me I might, but then we have Switch 2 early next year as well, which I might get depending on the release day games from Nintendo studios.
@UltimateOtaku91 I thought they might have tried again later in the PS4 life cycle but a shame it was not to be. Don’t think we will get new ones at all.
@Dman10 Its more the fact in 8 years nearly I have had my switch we have not had new DK 2d platform game. In someways Nintendo have been great with the Switch in others very lazy. Only one new 3d and 2d Mario platform game in nearly 8 years. No new MK but ok we got some new tracks.
I don’t mind remasters from either Sony or Nintendo as long as I good supply of new AAA games as well from their studios.
And Sony studios have not really been producing at all the last two years, well nothing like the PS4 days, that’s my issue not really the remakes.
2023 Spider man 2 and HFW DLC 2024 Astro Bot The games are great though, but if 2025 produces the same as 2024 then that’s a very bad show from Sony over the whole three years.
@jrt87 Well I have been with them all day one every company and console. Even used to import decades ago when the UK got consoles later than Japan and USA. Then again I owned a Neo Geo back in the day.
Love or Hate them all, it’s a mad crazy hobby at times gaming.
@UltimateOtaku91 Surprised they are dropping all this on the same day. They should do PRO 26th as arranged Anniversary stuff the week after. Will cause so much traffic on PS direct all at once.
Do we really need this. Would rather these studios spend time making new games, even if this has been outsourced, they got have had that studio helping do something new.
@NEStalgia I think it’s because I look at a game like HFW burning shores. PS5 is 1800p checkerboard to 4K at 60fps. The game looks amazing to me console wise with the world and all that is happening.
All this ray tracing and other added stuff developers are giving doesn’t seem to do that much looking at it beyond HFW burning shores.
I think I’m trying to say they are using up resources on a lot of jazz, which is then reducing resolutions very low especially at 60fps. That SW outlaws 1080p at 60fps.
Is SW outlaws looking any better than HFW with its Jazzed up new stuff the same with Avatar. To me it’s all a blurry mess with some of low resolution upscaled especially when panning around.
Give me less Jazz stuff, HFW at 1800p at 60fps smooth as butter and looks very very good when panning around. Because of the native resolution is near to 4K, real pixels.
They are chasing the wrong stuff these developers.
@themightyant Well let’s wait and see it all in action. I’m just surprised with the extra GPU increase that base resolutions are not being increased to a point first then upscaled. Maybe it is because they are just quick fix patches. Maybe when we get a new game we will see the base resolutions increases first then upscale.
@KundaliniRising333 I thought the more powerful GPU would have taken the current PS5 resolution in fidelity mode say 840p then pushed that to say 1440 or 1800p then done the upscaling.
I maybe wrong but all the PS5 Pro seems to be doing early days yet is being an upscaling machine to very low resolutions.
Well didn’t start well with PS5 fidelity mode 30fps, grass looking better than PS5 Pro using upscaling tricks to keep 60fps going. You could clearly see the difference in favour of the PS5 fidelity mode.
Like have said on here before there is absolutely no substitute for native 4K.
Will watch the rest later, but giving me second thoughts already.
@colonelkilgore Correct it wasn’t upscaled on PS4 But on the Xbox one x. The Scorpio Engine delivers a full, native 4K presentation - 3840x2160 - while retaining the TAA for an almost flawless, virtually jaggy-free experience. It's an impressive achievement.
That is why it looked so detailed and sharp on Xbox one x. Native 4K.
@somnambulance I think it’s Sonys way of getting the younger switch gamers into Horizon so they want the big boys games and a PS5. My two nephews have switch but also now they older have PS5.
@Sergo Time will tell. But I always remember having far cry 5 on PS4 then got it again on Xbox one x and the detail was a good bit better along with sharpness. Very clear.
@Medic_alert Probably the best most sharp looking games I have played are native 4K, upscaling is ok but also depends on the base resolution and type of upscaling used. Look at SW outlaws, it’s terrible really when on full screen upscaled from 1080p at 60fps. Avatar is another one, playing at 60fps the panning around at average speed is a total upscaled blurry mess. Low resolution upscaled to much.
But it’s has some rubbish sort of ray tracing. They are chasing the wrong things.
Will be very interesting to see what these PS5 Pro enhancements are going to be and if how much better than PS5 or Series X. Waiting to see what AC shadows enhancements are. I hoping for native 4K 60fps and top visual stuff, but I’m not sure. Looking forward to finding out
@HonestHick I will sell my PS5 digital slim, so that will go towards my PS5 Pro. Not to fussed about a disc drive, I’m totally all digital on all consoles.
Sony you keep making great AAA games just for your console. Just like Nintendo do.
Since Xbox is making for many devices on release it can’t make an amazing AAA game for love or money. To many devices. Some third party developers are a having the same trouble. All just above average games. SW outlaws for example.
Sony/Nintendo keep making those amazing AAA games for your consoles.
@ButterySmooth30FPS That what I got my PlayStation consoles for and the PS5. And had my series x for third party, but about 2 months ago my PS5 has become my main console so third party games are PS5 now including maybe Indy and Doom from Xbox.
The series x will probably go once my GPU runs out in March 2025.
@HonestHick It’s a small list so far, but the Indy thing at the show sort of showed me Microsofts intentions. They could have left it until after the Xbox release until say next March before announcing.
@Bizzy Tire maybe but Smyths Toys has a good few in each store and taking orders online. Until now. Correct it isn’t a massive indication but a dam good one in the right direction especially after the price of the Pro reveal.
@Axelay71 Going by the fact you can hardly get a PS5 disc drive and we have sold thousands in the UK and most shops are sold out. Smyths Toys across the UK have zero stock now and Argos are on back orders most places ,after the all digital PS5 Pro got announced, is telling us the PS5 Pro will absolutely fine sales wise.
No bugs so far but have installed the update. Reminds of how games used to be no bugs and top performance. Sees only Sony and Nintendo manage this on release date of games nowadays.
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Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
@KillerBoy
That’s my stance right now.
Of course I’m really looking forward to some Switch 2 next year and those Nintendo big first party games.
Hopefully we will get one from Sony next year 🤣.
Joking a side they should have two for next year at least.
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
@UltimateOtaku91
I will stick with Sony and Switch then probably Switch 2.
Of course they are all a business but the way they did PS5 Pro anniversary bundle was pure hard business on gamers.
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
@UltimateOtaku91
Sony are pushing their luck with me lately.
The arse I am like I left Xbox last month Sony are working their way slowly to the top of my hit list now.
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
@KillerBoy
Also don’t forget the PS5 Pro anniversary bundle that you can’t buy as the console in its own.
And have to have the edge controller and not a common sense disc drive bundled instead.
They are really pushing their luck with me Sony and I’m such an arse just like I left Xbox last month, Sony are starting to make their way onto my hit list.
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
Are we sacking anyone over this.
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
I could have my Uncharted 5 with millions left over for that.
Saved Sony millions and they would have made money in Uncharted 5.
They are dumb nuts
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
@UltimateOtaku91
Yeah I normally get through about £700 at Christmas as well.
I’m thinking about it still, but knowing me I might, but then we have Switch 2 early next year as well, which I might get depending on the release day games from Nintendo studios.
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
@UltimateOtaku91
I thought they might have tried again later in the PS4 life cycle but a shame it was not to be.
Don’t think we will get new ones at all.
Are you PS5 Pro next Thursday?
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
@Grumblevolcano
End with just one more game.
Main Sony Studio AAA game.
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
@Dman10
Its more the fact in 8 years nearly I have had my switch we have not had new DK 2d platform game.
In someways Nintendo have been great with the Switch in others very lazy.
Only one new 3d and 2d Mario platform game in nearly 8 years.
No new MK but ok we got some new tracks.
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
@UltimateOtaku91
What did ever happen to those great PS5 Studio FPS.
Resistance and Killzone.
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
@jrt87
At the end of the day none of us have to buy it and if enough people don’t buy it then these companies will change their ways.
It’s really simple economics, if the demand isn’t there they won’t supply it.
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
I don’t mind remasters from either Sony or Nintendo as long as I good supply of new AAA games as well from their studios.
And Sony studios have not really been producing at all the last two years, well nothing like the PS4 days, that’s my issue not really the remakes.
2023 Spider man 2 and HFW DLC
2024 Astro Bot
The games are great though, but if 2025 produces the same as 2024 then that’s a very bad show from Sony over the whole three years.
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
@jrt87
Well I have been with them all day one every company and console.
Even used to import decades ago when the UK got consoles later than Japan and USA.
Then again I owned a Neo Geo back in the day.
Love or Hate them all, it’s a mad crazy hobby at times gaming.
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
@UltimateOtaku91
Surprised they are dropping all this on the same day.
They should do PRO 26th as arranged
Anniversary stuff the week after.
Will cause so much traffic on PS direct all at once.
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
They need times for going live with pre orders on PS DIRECT.
I think in the UK it’s normally about 9am.
You are number 10,333 in the queue 🤣
They really should have done the normal PRO on the 26th then moved all the anniversary stuff to the following week.
No common sense.
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
@UltimateOtaku91
I’m UK I get paid on the 20th of the month 😊
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn's PS5, PC Remaster Is Very Much the Real Deal
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare
Wow that sort of sums it up badly.
And I moan about Xbox and Nintendo.
Has been a joke this generation overall.
All I can do is hope for a better next four years.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn's PS5, PC Remaster Is Very Much the Real Deal
Do we really need this.
Would rather these studios spend time making new games, even if this has been outsourced, they got have had that studio helping do something new.
Re: PS5 Pro Shows Real Promise in First Expert Analysis
@NEStalgia
I think it’s because I look at a game like HFW burning shores.
PS5 is 1800p checkerboard to 4K at 60fps.
The game looks amazing to me console wise with the world and all that is happening.
All this ray tracing and other added stuff developers are giving doesn’t seem to do that much looking at it beyond HFW burning shores.
I think I’m trying to say they are using up resources on a lot of jazz, which is then reducing resolutions very low especially at 60fps.
That SW outlaws 1080p at 60fps.
Is SW outlaws looking any better than HFW with its Jazzed up new stuff the same with Avatar.
To me it’s all a blurry mess with some of low resolution upscaled especially when panning around.
Give me less Jazz stuff, HFW at 1800p at 60fps smooth as butter and looks very very good when panning around. Because of the native resolution is near to 4K, real pixels.
They are chasing the wrong stuff these developers.
Re: PS5 Pro Shows Real Promise in First Expert Analysis
@themightyant
Well let’s wait and see it all in action.
I’m just surprised with the extra GPU increase that base resolutions are not being increased to a point first then upscaled.
Maybe it is because they are just quick fix patches.
Maybe when we get a new game we will see the base resolutions increases first then upscale.
Re: PS5 Pro Shows Real Promise in First Expert Analysis
@KundaliniRising333
I thought the more powerful GPU would have taken the current PS5 resolution in fidelity mode say 840p then pushed that to say 1440 or 1800p then done the upscaling.
I maybe wrong but all the PS5 Pro seems to be doing early days yet is being an upscaling machine to very low resolutions.
Re: PS5 Pro Shows Real Promise in First Expert Analysis
Well didn’t start well with PS5 fidelity mode 30fps, grass looking better than PS5 Pro using upscaling tricks to keep 60fps going.
You could clearly see the difference in favour of the PS5 fidelity mode.
Like have said on here before there is absolutely no substitute for native 4K.
Will watch the rest later, but giving me second thoughts already.
Re: LEGO Fortnite May Be the Most Impressive PS5, PS4 You're Not Playing
Will say one thing Lego seems to know where to put itself over the years.
Re: PS5 Pro Shows Real Promise in First Expert Analysis
@StaminanX
Well if enough like yourself skip the console it might bother Sony somewhat.
Re: PS5 Pro Shows Real Promise in First Expert Analysis
@colonelkilgore
I get your point.
Just seems since the old days gaming development is full of tricks.
Re: PS5 Pro Shows Real Promise in First Expert Analysis
@colonelkilgore
Correct it wasn’t upscaled on PS4
But on the Xbox one x.
The Scorpio Engine delivers a full, native 4K presentation - 3840x2160 - while retaining the TAA for an almost flawless, virtually jaggy-free experience. It's an impressive achievement.
That is why it looked so detailed and sharp on Xbox one x. Native 4K.
Re: LEGO Horizon Adventures Bares Its 'A*s' in ESRB Rating for PS5, PC, Switch
@somnambulance
I think it’s Sonys way of getting the younger switch gamers into Horizon so they want the big boys games and a PS5.
My two nephews have switch but also now they older have PS5.
Re: PS5 Pro Shows Real Promise in First Expert Analysis
@Sergo
Time will tell.
But I always remember having far cry 5 on PS4 then got it again on Xbox one x and the detail was a good bit better along with sharpness. Very clear.
Re: PS5 Pro's Alan Wake 2 Upgrades Will Be a 'Pleasant Surprise'
@Medic_alert
I’m in no doubt a top AAA NEW Sony exclusive will look the best.
Re: PS5 Pro's Alan Wake 2 Upgrades Will Be a 'Pleasant Surprise'
@Medic_alert
Well let’s what it all looks like on my tv when it all arrives.
Re: PS5 Pro Shows Real Promise in First Expert Analysis
There is not true representation of native 4K.
Native 4K wins hands down.
Re: PS5 Pro's Alan Wake 2 Upgrades Will Be a 'Pleasant Surprise'
@Medic_alert
Probably the best most sharp looking games I have played are native 4K, upscaling is ok but also depends on the base resolution and type of upscaling used.
Look at SW outlaws, it’s terrible really when on full screen upscaled from 1080p at 60fps.
Avatar is another one, playing at 60fps the panning around at average speed is a total upscaled blurry mess. Low resolution upscaled to much.
But it’s has some rubbish sort of ray tracing.
They are chasing the wrong things.
Re: PS5 Pro's Alan Wake 2 Upgrades Will Be a 'Pleasant Surprise'
Will be very interesting to see what these PS5 Pro enhancements are going to be and if how much better than PS5 or Series X.
Waiting to see what AC shadows enhancements are.
I hoping for native 4K 60fps and top visual stuff, but I’m not sure.
Looking forward to finding out
Re: PS5 Pro's Alan Wake 2 Upgrades Will Be a 'Pleasant Surprise'
Never played AW 2 but really enjoyed one.
Once I get my PS5 Pro it maybe time to jump in.
Re: PS6 Is Already Deep in Development, Backwards Compatibility of High Importance
Keep making consoles Sony, never mind who moans on here or anyone else.
I want a top end console or as good as can be under my TV.
Re: Sony Boss Says 'PCs Are Difficult to Set Up', Firm Will Focus on PS5
@HonestHick
Apart from Switch 2.
It’s will interesting next generation if it’s all digital.
I’m thinking it might well be.
Re: Sony Boss Says 'PCs Are Difficult to Set Up', Firm Will Focus on PS5
@HonestHick
I will sell my PS5 digital slim, so that will go towards my PS5 Pro.
Not to fussed about a disc drive, I’m totally all digital on all consoles.
Re: Sony Boss Says 'PCs Are Difficult to Set Up', Firm Will Focus on PS5
@HonestHick
Totally agree, hope we both manage to get a preorder PS5 Pro in the 26th.
Re: Sony Boss Says 'PCs Are Difficult to Set Up', Firm Will Focus on PS5
Sony you keep making great AAA games just for your console.
Just like Nintendo do.
Since Xbox is making for many devices on release it can’t make an amazing AAA game for love or money. To many devices.
Some third party developers are a having the same trouble.
All just above average games. SW outlaws for example.
Sony/Nintendo keep making those amazing AAA games for your consoles.
Re: State of Play Rumoured for This Month As Sony Looks Set to Skip PS Showcase in 2024
@ButterySmooth30FPS
That what I got my PlayStation consoles for and the PS5.
And had my series x for third party, but about 2 months ago my PS5 has become my main console so third party games are PS5 now including maybe Indy and Doom from Xbox.
The series x will probably go once my GPU runs out in March 2025.
Then of course I’m very interested in Switch 2.
Re: State of Play Rumoured for This Month As Sony Looks Set to Skip PS Showcase in 2024
@HonestHick
It’s a small list so far, but the Indy thing at the show sort of showed me Microsofts intentions.
They could have left it until after the Xbox release until say next March before announcing.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Astro Bot?
Went 9/10 but being really picky
But only about 28% through.
But definitely the AAA game I have been waiting for this year.
Re: State of Play Rumoured for This Month As Sony Looks Set to Skip PS Showcase in 2024
They are funny old bunch Sony but we got Astro Bot, but hopefully next year we will get more from them, need something to show the Pro off.
I normally moan about my Switch and lack of first party but Sony last year 2023 and this year 2024 definitely get that reward from their studios.
Let’s be honest they probably don’t have to try that hard now as Microsoft have taken to putting their games on PS5.
It’s like the best outcome we get Xbox games.
But with the worry thought of Sony not trying that hard now.
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Sales Trending Ahead of Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart in the UK
I went preorder digital.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Astro Bot Barely Registers at Retail, PS5 Numbers Plummet After Price Hike
@Axelay71
We shall see. I’m on the fence but slowly edging towards pre ordering one on the 26th.
I have a new top end Sony tv and sound bar system with sub and rear speakers.
I like top end equipment.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Astro Bot Barely Registers at Retail, PS5 Numbers Plummet After Price Hike
@Bizzy
Tire maybe but Smyths Toys has a good few in each store and taking orders online.
Until now.
Correct it isn’t a massive indication but a dam good one in the right direction especially after the price of the Pro reveal.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Astro Bot Barely Registers at Retail, PS5 Numbers Plummet After Price Hike
@Axelay71
Going by the fact you can hardly get a PS5 disc drive and we have sold thousands in the UK and most shops are sold out. Smyths Toys across the UK have zero stock now and Argos are on back orders most places ,after the all digital PS5 Pro got announced, is telling us the PS5 Pro will absolutely fine sales wise.
Re: Astro Bot Update 1.003 Is Available to Download on PS5 Now
No bugs so far but have installed the update.
Reminds of how games used to be no bugs and top performance.
Sees only Sony and Nintendo manage this on release date of games nowadays.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Astro Bot Barely Registers at Retail, PS5 Numbers Plummet After Price Hike
@dardel
UK here most PS5 owners I know are COD and FIFA and buy little else outside of those games every year.