@IamJT Really hope so, it’s about now the PS5 and maybe the PS5 Pro started showing us 4th year Nov 2024 plus generation games. Those top end Sony Studio big AAA games that I have a PS5 for.
Well Sony should have profiled the company properly. But considering apart from D2 dlc, the seven years and over 1000 employees had released nothing. That gives you a guess.
@IamJT I do hope you are right as need an ND single player campaign game. It’s a very interesting point you made about the 4 years between Uncharted 4 and TLOU2.
It seems every studio seems to be taking almost double time with developing games nowadays.
Still can’t work out how a studio of that size have not produced another big AAA game over the years since destiny 2. I know they have been supporting and adding to destiny 2. But to me with the shear amount of employees they should have produced another big game by now easily.
Goes to show when you swell a business and don’t manage it, it ends up producing nothing even with lots of employees.
Spread to thinly amongst projects is the key word for me. A lot of studios do this and then end producing nothing or games of little value. I do worry there is to much of this spread thinly going on and is why games are taking longer in development. A Sony studio used to be good at making one game per studio, an amazing game and get it finished and done. Maybe not so much nowadays.
Sounds like Star Wars version of the UBI Avatar game, looks gorgeous, catches the film effect and locations etc. But has some muddy game play flaws and typical open world set up. What gets me the team and dedicated developers have spent years on this game. They must know about the two main flaws other preview mentions. The muddy shooting control and feeling and the bad slow down effect camera angles. Please tell me why not sort these things out during production? I shall sit back and wait for reviews and go from there.
Sony showing Nintendo how to do it almost in their own backyard, good for you Sony about time Nintendo had some platform competition. About 4 years in the making and looking marvellous.
How long have we been waiting for a new 3d Mario platform game. Time we get there about 8 years and also it will be no where near Astro Bot graphics, sound and dualsense tricks wise.
Can’t wait for this game. And that’s coming from a day one Switch owner.
I know gameplay is king but also being a Switch owner it does make we wish we could have a 3d Mario platformer and 3d Zelda with Astro Bot and say Horizon Forbidden West graphics a long with Nintendo game play.
But alas it will never happen, mainly due to Nintendos model of business, which is good, keep things a level or two down, keep costs down and production time and of course studio size, number of employees and make a profit.
And of course being hybrid console would bring some technical and cost issues.
Well at least we got this amazing Astro Bot game for my PS5.
Was hoping for the PS5 Pro release in time for Astro Bot and SW Outlaws but I don’t think that will happen.
@Kidfunkadelic83 Yep watched about 10 seconds of each bit and that was it. Definitely going blind on this one. And with SW Outlaws a week before and if that’s great as well, we finally are getting a great gaming year for 2024.
Gaming is a business and profits need to be made I understand that. But is it just me but since this new generation it’s turned a bit greedy and over the top from the companies. Then they wonder why across the board console and game sales are down, just one reason of many why.
@NEStalgia Well I’m the boss so we talk games it’s compulsory 🤣🤣🤣 Yes in the 80s at school it was a nerdy past time but I’m sure we have moved on extremely from those dark gaming days.
@UltimateOtaku91 At my work they would talk about gaming as they are sort of that way inclined. It’s just not as popular and I have no one to talk a little about gaming to 🤣
I thinking in the future it will decline and possibly only room for two main stream consoles making it worth while for the companies. Which I think we know will be Sony and Nintendo.
But they only have themselves to blame. They went to early with series and PS5 consoles, they keep cross generation games, charge higher prices for games and consoles and have not really brought much new to the table.
Stick your PS4 Pro or Xbox one x on and with a top tv doing up scaling magic as well it’s hard to tell the difference. And on a small bedroom tv there is no difference at all.
Developers taking an age to release big AAA games and games releasing with bugs and performance issues, then with what else I have mentioned you have a massive recipe for declining overall sales.
@UltimateOtaku91 Continuing on about consoles sales overall. I for decades have employed apprentices 16 to 20 year old and degree graduates 21 to 23. Over the years I bust in on their conversations and say years ago roughly it used to be sometimes, consoles this and that any games this and that, also COD and FIFA chats.
Fast forward to the last two years and especially now, absolutely nothing from the new in takes. It’s a little bit PC, news, work or tv programmes, other hobbies, cars chat. Not gaming now and again. This wonderfully amazing console hobby of ours is in and heading for decline. Obviously this is just my experience UK.
@UltimateOtaku91 Totally agree but I did sort of enjoy it at times.
It was interesting reading overall console sales for 2024 across the board yesterday. Sort of showing overall how it’s definitely in a small decline. Will be interesting to see if it levels off, gets lower or increases over many months
But it’s definitely because overall this new generation has really done nothing new compared to last generation and cross generation games also yet again for FIFA and COD this year. Also the cost of the big two consoles is expensive especially in Europe. Also the lack of big AAA game franchises. Also the Switch is near to end of life of gone past it almost, not helping.
@UltimateOtaku91 Sorry not strictly correct. The WII U which I had could be played in a handheld mode sort off as we know, so it had a unique selling point against the other home consoles.
Switch is also selling well because NIntendo have taken away their hand held consoles so Switch is the only option. Nintendo of course planned this, so only one hardware device had to made and one lot of games produced. However Nintendo especially during the WII era sold far more consoles and games having both home and held devices. Only Nintendo will know financially if it is better to have both home and hand held console or just the Switch hybrid.
The Switch has done well but one reason is because Nintendo took away the hand held console option.
@naruball Very true I have one but always play docked of course for those Nintendo AAA studio games only. I will preorder a Switch 2 the second I can. The only thing that will stop me is if it doesn’t release with big Nintendo AAA games, but the time they are taking releasing the console we should have a good couple of them on release. If it doesn’t it will be a rubbish release for me and also make me wonder what the hell have Nintendo been doing, as that seems to have been one of their excuses for not release Switch 2 earlier.
@PsBoxSwitchOwner When they have had demo pods in Currys many years ago they seemed ok. I found it’s more if they fail and need resetting, they don’t get reset so sit there in limbo.
Sony should use the Sony TV rep in Currys store to keep the demo pod looked after. That’s all they have to do as they already pay for the Sony tv rep to be there like LG have a tv rep.
There are solutions if Sony really wants to do it, it’s just they probably don’t want to.
They should put Demo pods with the best games available maybe a choice of three best games you can flick through and try. I know if my local Currys UK had a demo pod me and few others would give it a try and maybe we might buy the product. Again Sony knows better than most about PR.
@themightyant It's a Ubisoft game best left for a few months for patches and discounts.
And you said it so perfectly. Though that’s goes for most big games nowadays not just Ubisoft. With a few exceptions, Astro Bots will probably be all good on day of release and normally most Nintendo games are.
What a cock up of a company Microsoft have been with the series consoles and games pass and cloud gaming. No wonder they hardly sell much and get noticed in UK and Europe nowadays. The more than comes out about Microsoft and gaming, I’m glad I switch a few weeks ago to PS5 as my main console and eco system. Along with my Switch as well. When our pets get ill and past repair we can put them down sadly. Maybe we should take this stance with Microsoft console gaming and get it over with.
This topic is over in Pure Xbox. Similar comments and lots of moans and deserved and even some feeling Xbox consoles or Xbox as we know it are no more, even the hardest of Xbox fans seem to have no defence over on pure Xbox or like me just can’t be bothered with Xbox anymore.
I can see territory stages release here. Like maybe Japan first then USA then Europe. Like in the old days of console releases. Just have that feeling.
@RagnarLothbrok Sometimes it has a price cut in the UK for a couple of weeks by about £80, they then fly off the shelves. The problem is once the price goes back up to normal price some wait for the next price reduction sale before buying.
I do think both consoles are over priced in the UK though generally.
@DennisReynolds Yes I said a while ago in line with GTA6 special bundle deal. The only console to play the game full native 4K etc, all the good PR. Also I can’t really see the point without a big flash exclusive to show off the power.
Maybe they having second thoughts, look at Switch and the sales. Switch 2 won’t be all that powerful either.
If Xbox release next generation Xbox 2026 are Sony going to do the same with PS6.
It’s not a normal generation this generation either to me.
Like I have said before just over 50% of game pass subs are on Xbox consoles. That means the rest is across all other billions of devices. So the console up take is good and all other devices is poor. 3 years ago I put on here. Sell a console where you biggest up take is you stand a very good chance of selling a game pass. As of today Microsoft have done absolutely nothing to sell consoles, advertising wise etc and are totally outsold everywhere. Microsoft when it comes to Xbox consoles and Xbox really seem to want it to die. All the evidence is there. They are taking Xbox brand down.
Well I started at 7am for an hour of Uncharted 4 PS5 version. Please Naughty Dog, continue this amazing game with a few new aspects and start Drakes daughter’s trilogy adventure.
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Re: Reaction: PS5 Needs a Price Cut
Just give me PS5 Pro I want the best performance for my Sony X95L 65” and Dolby Atmos system
And of course for the games.
As for the price of PS5 and Xbox Series x they are overpriced for coming up to 4 years old.
But isn’t everything to expensive at the moment in the UK.
Re: Naughty Dog Allegedly Found Bungie's Feedback on Binned The Last of Us 2 Multiplayer Extremely Helpful
@IamJT
Really hope so, it’s about now the PS5 and maybe the PS5 Pro started showing us 4th year Nov 2024 plus generation games.
Those top end Sony Studio big AAA games that I have a PS5 for.
Re: Bungie Accused of Overselling Itself to Sony, Promising Success It Couldn't Deliver
Well Sony should have profiled the company properly.
But considering apart from D2 dlc, the seven years and over 1000 employees had released nothing.
That gives you a guess.
Re: Naughty Dog Allegedly Found Bungie's Feedback on Binned The Last of Us 2 Multiplayer Extremely Helpful
@IamJT
I do hope you are right as need an ND single player campaign game.
It’s a very interesting point you made about the 4 years between Uncharted 4 and TLOU2.
It seems every studio seems to be taking almost double time with developing games nowadays.
Re: A Big Bungie Project Has Been Cancelled, But It Wasn't Destiny 3
Still can’t work out how a studio of that size have not produced another big AAA game over the years since destiny 2. I know they have been supporting and adding to destiny 2.
But to me with the shear amount of employees they should have produced another big game by now easily.
Goes to show when you swell a business and don’t manage it, it ends up producing nothing even with lots of employees.
Re: Naughty Dog Allegedly Found Bungie's Feedback on Binned The Last of Us 2 Multiplayer Extremely Helpful
Ups and downs, in and outs, no matter how you play it, 4 years soon and not a sniff of a ND game.
Leaving my favourite developer, single player big AAA campaign addition high and dry.
Re: Sony to Establish Brand New PS Studios Team for PS5 Sci-Fi Action Game
I will not hold my breath for this project, if you all don’t mind.
Re: Bungie to Layoff 220 Employees, Will Be Further Integrated into Sony
Spread to thinly amongst projects is the key word for me.
A lot of studios do this and then end producing nothing or games of little value.
I do worry there is to much of this spread thinly going on and is why games are taking longer in development.
A Sony studio used to be good at making one game per studio, an amazing game and get it finished and done. Maybe not so much nowadays.
Re: Talking Point: Is It Finally the Right Time to Buy PSVR2?
Definitely not and sometimes I have to scratch my head and think why did I buy the new generation consoles in PS5 and Series X.
The most lacklustre new generation I have ever known in the first 4 years.
Re: Preview: Star Wars Outlaws Thrives in Its Rewarding Open World
Sounds like Star Wars version of the UBI Avatar game, looks gorgeous, catches the film effect and locations etc.
But has some muddy game play flaws and typical open world set up.
What gets me the team and dedicated developers have spent years on this game.
They must know about the two main flaws other preview mentions. The muddy shooting control and feeling and the bad slow down effect camera angles.
Please tell me why not sort these things out during production?
I shall sit back and wait for reviews and go from there.
Re: Preview: Star Wars Outlaws Thrives in Its Rewarding Open World
Other previews mention the blaster play being muddy and disconnected.
The slow motion shooting having wrong camera angles and not feeling right.
Any idea if there is a 60fps performance mode?
This definitely is not going to be the 92 plus game I wished it was going to be.
Re: Poll: Is the Astro Bot PS5 Controller the Best DualSense Yet?
Will probably preorder one of these, I’m a sucker for Astro Bot.
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Controller Announced, Pre-Orders Start 9th August
Wow we all asked for this the other day and got it 😊.
And some of us asked for the demo as well, we still waiting Sony 🤣
Re: Deals: Sony Goes for the Jugular with Humongous PS5, PSVR2 Discounts in USA
Just bring on the PS5 Pro and get it out.
Re: Astro Bot Continues Its Quest for PS5 Game of the Year with Sublime Gameplay Demo
Sony showing Nintendo how to do it almost in their own backyard, good for you Sony about time Nintendo had some platform competition.
About 4 years in the making and looking marvellous.
How long have we been waiting for a new 3d Mario platform game. Time we get there about 8 years and also it will be no where near Astro Bot graphics, sound and dualsense tricks wise.
Can’t wait for this game. And that’s coming from a day one Switch owner.
Re: Anticipated PS5 Platformer Astro Bot Looks Absolutely Outstanding in Gameplay Demo
I know gameplay is king but also being a Switch owner it does make we wish we could have a 3d Mario platformer and 3d Zelda with Astro Bot and say Horizon Forbidden West graphics a long with Nintendo game play.
But alas it will never happen, mainly due to Nintendos model of business, which is good, keep things a level or two down, keep costs down and production time and of course studio size, number of employees and make a profit.
And of course being hybrid console would bring some technical and cost issues.
Well at least we got this amazing Astro Bot game for my PS5.
Was hoping for the PS5 Pro release in time for Astro Bot and SW Outlaws but I don’t think that will happen.
Re: Anticipated PS5 Platformer Astro Bot Looks Absolutely Outstanding in Gameplay Demo
@Kidfunkadelic83
Yep watched about 10 seconds of each bit and that was it. Definitely going blind on this one.
And with SW Outlaws a week before and if that’s great as well, we finally are getting a great gaming year for 2024.
Re: Anticipated PS5 Platformer Astro Bot Looks Absolutely Outstanding in Gameplay Demo
I demand Sony you send this demo out right now to all PS5s.
Did it work? 🤣
Re: Poll: Are You Sick of Soulslike Games?
Well going by results we definitely have.
It’s a shame as I have tried a few of them and what amazing games and design and gameplay.
Please give me an easier mode and I will buy and play the game for hours.
It’s a stupid stance and format if you ask me to take on games.
Imagine the loads of extra sales the games would get if they put some sort of easement into the games.
The main one is Elden Ring for me to miss out on.
Re: GTA 6 Not Affected by Current Union Strike Over AI Issues
Gaming is a business and profits need to be made I understand that.
But is it just me but since this new generation it’s turned a bit greedy and over the top from the companies.
Then they wonder why across the board console and game sales are down, just one reason of many why.
Re: Sony's Going to Make Damn Sure You Pay Attention to Astro Bot on PS5
@Kidfunkadelic83
Yep the whites and light blue and an Astro bot on the push pad. Simple and amazing.
Re: Sony's Going to Make Damn Sure You Pay Attention to Astro Bot on PS5
I think we should get a special edition dual sense for this game.
Re: Deals: PSVR2 Price Gets a Hefty Cut at Numerous UK Retailers
@NEStalgia
Well I’m the boss so we talk games it’s compulsory 🤣🤣🤣
Yes in the 80s at school it was a nerdy past time but I’m sure we have moved on extremely from those dark gaming days.
Re: Deals: PSVR2 Price Gets a Hefty Cut at Numerous UK Retailers
@UltimateOtaku91
At my work they would talk about gaming as they are sort of that way inclined.
It’s just not as popular and I have no one to talk a little about gaming to 🤣
I thinking in the future it will decline and possibly only room for two main stream consoles making it worth while for the companies.
Which I think we know will be Sony and Nintendo.
But they only have themselves to blame. They went to early with series and PS5 consoles, they keep cross generation games, charge higher prices for games and consoles and have not really brought much new to the table.
Stick your PS4 Pro or Xbox one x on and with a top tv doing up scaling magic as well it’s hard to tell the difference. And on a small bedroom tv there is no difference at all.
Developers taking an age to release big AAA games and games releasing with bugs and performance issues, then with what else I have mentioned you have a massive recipe for declining overall sales.
Re: Deals: PSVR2 Price Gets a Hefty Cut at Numerous UK Retailers
@UltimateOtaku91
Continuing on about consoles sales overall.
I for decades have employed apprentices 16 to 20 year old and degree graduates 21 to 23.
Over the years I bust in on their conversations and say years ago roughly it used to be sometimes, consoles this and that any games this and that, also COD and FIFA chats.
Fast forward to the last two years and especially now, absolutely nothing from the new in takes.
It’s a little bit PC, news, work or tv programmes, other hobbies, cars chat. Not gaming now and again.
This wonderfully amazing console hobby of ours is in and heading for decline.
Obviously this is just my experience UK.
Re: Deals: PSVR2 Price Gets a Hefty Cut at Numerous UK Retailers
@UltimateOtaku91
Totally agree but I did sort of enjoy it at times.
It was interesting reading overall console sales for 2024 across the board yesterday.
Sort of showing overall how it’s definitely in a small decline.
Will be interesting to see if it levels off, gets lower or increases over many months
But it’s definitely because overall this new generation has really done nothing new compared to last generation and cross generation games also yet again for FIFA and COD this year. Also the cost of the big two consoles is expensive especially in Europe. Also the lack of big AAA game franchises.
Also the Switch is near to end of life of gone past it almost, not helping.
Re: Deals: PSVR2 Price Gets a Hefty Cut at Numerous UK Retailers
@UltimateOtaku91
Sorry not strictly correct. The WII U which I had could be played in a handheld mode sort off as we know, so it had a unique selling point against the other home consoles.
Switch is also selling well because NIntendo have taken away their hand held consoles so Switch is the only option.
Nintendo of course planned this, so only one hardware device had to made and one lot of games produced.
However Nintendo especially during the WII era sold far more consoles and games having both home and held devices. Only Nintendo will know financially if it is better to have both home and hand held console or just the Switch hybrid.
The Switch has done well but one reason is because Nintendo took away the hand held console option.
Re: Deals: PSVR2 Price Gets a Hefty Cut at Numerous UK Retailers
@naruball
Very true I have one but always play docked of course for those Nintendo AAA studio games only.
I will preorder a Switch 2 the second I can.
The only thing that will stop me is if it doesn’t release with big Nintendo AAA games, but the time they are taking releasing the console we should have a good couple of them on release.
If it doesn’t it will be a rubbish release for me and also make me wonder what the hell have Nintendo been doing, as that seems to have been one of their excuses for not release Switch 2 earlier.
Re: Deals: PSVR2 Price Gets a Hefty Cut at Numerous UK Retailers
@naruball
Let’s just hope Nintendo don’t call the obvious name Switch 2 the Switch U 🤣
Re: Deals: PSVR2 Price Gets a Hefty Cut at Numerous UK Retailers
@PsBoxSwitchOwner
When they have had demo pods in Currys many years ago they seemed ok.
I found it’s more if they fail and need resetting, they don’t get reset so sit there in limbo.
Sony should use the Sony TV rep in Currys store to keep the demo pod looked after.
That’s all they have to do as they already pay for the Sony tv rep to be there like LG have a tv rep.
There are solutions if Sony really wants to do it, it’s just they probably don’t want to.
Re: Deals: PSVR2 Price Gets a Hefty Cut at Numerous UK Retailers
PSVR2 is treated by Sony how Microsoft treat Xbox consoles. Not much PR and great AAA must have games.
Re: Deals: PSVR2 Price Gets a Hefty Cut at Numerous UK Retailers
They should put Demo pods with the best games available maybe a choice of three best games you can flick through and try.
I know if my local Currys UK had a demo pod me and few others would give it a try and maybe we might buy the product.
Again Sony knows better than most about PR.
Re: Deals: PSVR2 Price Gets a Hefty Cut at Numerous UK Retailers
Price is better, but games make the console or PSVR2 in this case.
And Sony know this better than any of them, over their years of experience.
Re: 'Unpolished' Star Wars Outlaws Gameplay Gets Blasted, But Ubisoft Insists on August Release Date
@themightyant
It's a Ubisoft game best left for a few months for patches and discounts.
And you said it so perfectly. Though that’s goes for most big games nowadays not just Ubisoft.
With a few exceptions, Astro Bots will probably be all good on day of release and normally most Nintendo games are.
Re: 'PlayStation's Blessed with Marketing Budgets We're Not Able to Enjoy,' Xbox Bigwig Bemoans
What a cock up of a company Microsoft have been with the series consoles and games pass and cloud gaming.
No wonder they hardly sell much and get noticed in UK and Europe nowadays.
The more than comes out about Microsoft and gaming, I’m glad I switch a few weeks ago to PS5 as my main console and eco system.
Along with my Switch as well.
When our pets get ill and past repair we can put them down sadly. Maybe we should take this stance with Microsoft console gaming and get it over with.
Re: 'PlayStation's Blessed with Marketing Budgets We're Not Able to Enjoy,' Xbox Bigwig Bemoans
This topic is over in Pure Xbox.
Similar comments and lots of moans and deserved and even some feeling Xbox consoles or Xbox as we know it are no more, even the hardest of Xbox fans seem to have no defence over on pure Xbox or like me just can’t be bothered with Xbox anymore.
Re: PS5 Pro Still Likely to Launch This Year, Tokyo Game Show Reveal Possible
I can see territory stages release here.
Like maybe Japan first then USA then Europe.
Like in the old days of console releases.
Just have that feeling.
Re: PS5 Simply Can't Match the Pace of 2023 in Europe
@RagnarLothbrok
Sometimes it has a price cut in the UK for a couple of weeks by about £80, they then fly off the shelves.
The problem is once the price goes back up to normal price some wait for the next price reduction sale before buying.
I do think both consoles are over priced in the UK though generally.
Re: Doubt Cast Over PS5 Pro Actually Releasing This Year
@DennisReynolds
Yes I said a while ago in line with GTA6 special bundle deal. The only console to play the game full native 4K etc, all the good PR.
Also I can’t really see the point without a big flash exclusive to show off the power.
Maybe they having second thoughts, look at Switch and the sales. Switch 2 won’t be all that powerful either.
If Xbox release next generation Xbox 2026 are Sony going to do the same with PS6.
It’s not a normal generation this generation either to me.
Re: Check Out a Full 10 Minute Star Wars Outlaws Quest on PS5
Any news on 60fps anybody?
Can’t stand 30fps nowadays.
Re: Flintlock: The Siege of Dawn Sets the Scene in PS5, PS4 Story Trailer
Really want this to be great as could do with a new game like this.
Will wait for reviews then decide.
Re: Talking Point: Was Sony Right to Resist Adding PS5 Exclusives to PS Plus Day One?
Like I have said before just over 50% of game pass subs are on Xbox consoles.
That means the rest is across all other billions of devices.
So the console up take is good and all other devices is poor.
3 years ago I put on here. Sell a console where you biggest up take is you stand a very good chance of selling a game pass.
As of today Microsoft have done absolutely nothing to sell consoles, advertising wise etc and are totally outsold everywhere.
Microsoft when it comes to Xbox consoles and Xbox really seem to want it to die. All the evidence is there. They are taking Xbox brand down.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 536
Well I started at 7am for an hour of Uncharted 4 PS5 version.
Please Naughty Dog, continue this amazing game with a few new aspects and start Drakes daughter’s trilogy adventure.
Re: PS5 Open Worlder Star Wars Outlaws Goes Gold Ahead of August Release
@Shigurui
Hence my wise old approach to buying the game not on release day.
Re: Collectible PlayStation Figurines Out This August, Featuring Aloy, Kratos, and Jin
I see the USA gear store has plushies Astro bot and aloy etc.
sod all for us Europeans in our gear store.
Re: Collectible PlayStation Figurines Out This August, Featuring Aloy, Kratos, and Jin
Bring back the plushies from about 5 years ago.
They were the best and better value for money at the time.
Re: PS5 Open Worlder Star Wars Outlaws Goes Gold Ahead of August Release
Might give this a miss for a bit as also the following week Astro Bot releases.
Also makes sense for patches and price reduction.
Re: PS5 Open Worlder Star Wars Outlaws Goes Gold Ahead of August Release
Let’s hope it’s in a stable condition and no bugs.
Also what visual modes do we have.
I hoping for a 60fps performance mode.
This could be a buy later after patches etc if current releases are anything to go by.
Re: Dragon's Dogma 2 Patch Clearly Improves PS5 Performance, But It's Still Far from Perfect
@ear_wig
That’s the best come on.
Re: Feature: Push Square Readers' 20 Most Anticipated PS5 Games for the Second Half of 2024
Star Wars 30/8/24
Astro 6/9/24
What a month or two.