OldGamer999

The scores show it all in the last two big franchise UBI games.
Avatar - 72 meta
Sw outlaws - 76 meta

The industry’s quality overall is going to pot and they wonder why sales of both games and consoles are stagnant or reducing.

It’s becoming a charge more for less quality industry and make a quick buck, overall.

Yes there is the odd amazing example like Astro Bot, but these examples are getting less and less.

Gaming as a whole though is starting to ruin itself and it’s showing in the numbers.
A very small example:
Last generation 5 of us day one PS4 Pro.
This generation 1 out of 5 day one PS5 Pro, reason diminishing returns.
Star Wars outlaws, 3 of us definitely were buying day one, result zero of us did, reason overall not a great quality game.

My point, manufacturers and developers are slowly ruining things and losing sales, which in turn will hurt them and the industry and us.

They are turning into a make a fast buck industry, rather than giving good value for money and top quality.

@NEStalgia
It’s all very interesting we aimed for 4K at 60fps for decades and we achieved it even last generation especially with the mid generation ups grade and of course we can achieve this generation and did.

It because either we want or the industry is just doing it, we seem to be going down the super looking realistic route, which of course is pushing things to far, so something has to give which of course is resolution and fps.

If you take Forza Horizon 4 on series x it’s native 4K at 60fps. Why because the graphics are at the level the series x can do that.
It’s only because the industry want to try and take graphics further that we lose native 4K at 60fps.

And why do they do it, so all buy new graphics cards and consoles.

Forza horizon 5 has great graphics why do we need higher graphics.
Keep the graphics at FH5 level then we can run games at native 4K 60fps. And just make new games at that graphical level.

The worst is if you go from the Sony and the Xbox controllers to the Switch Pro controller as the forward and back buttons are reversed on the Switch pro controller so you keep going forward instead of backwards and vice a versa.

@Fiendish-Beaver
Yeah I get your points. And yes FOMO is always there but my brain feels unlike last mid generation upgrades after research I’m not missing out on much if anything. They still available on PS direct now, so no sweeping sell out, which normally would have included me.
As for next generation will be interesting what both Sony and Microsoft do and the release dates and of course the prices.
Nintendo is the real next interesting one very soon, well I think very soon 🤣

@Fiendish-Beaver
Bottled it in the end.
I was day one with PS4 Pro and Xbox one x
That gave me entrance to native 4K on a lot of games, no upscaling especially on Xbox one x.

But after reading and looking we really are getting diminishing returns for £700 especially as upscaling from lower resolutions seems not to be as clear and sharp as some existing Sony studio games like last of us in quality mode.
Bit gives you better fps but only upscaled tricky.

As where the last mid generation upgrades I could see the native 4K difference. A good example of that was Farcry 4 on Xbox one x. And this showed an advance without tricky stuff going on.

Seem to have PS5 Pro white.
Back in stock UK PS Direct.

UK PS Direct still have white PS5 Pro left.
No queue at all now.

Maybe that price and small game advantage is not winning people over.

UK PS Direct still have white PS5 Pro left.
No queue at all now.

Maybe that price and small game advantage is not winning people over.

I’m UK now I can just bounce in and out of the website.
PS5 Pro can buy easy.
Not much Anniversary stuff left.
Edge controller and portal only.

@Titntin
Got a white pro.
Did it by credit card and worked ok.

@Titntin
I’m on 8 minutes.
Got a bad feeling it’s all gone.

This diabolical process makes the UK NHS casualty waiting room look very good 🤣

What a disaster.
Released to many things on the same day.
Perhaps AI is charge of the whole process.
Now human is surely this thick.

@Titntin
Same here.
Should have done the Pro and anniversary stuff on different days.
I would say it’s the anniversary stuff most are after like a controller.

I was all in with PS5 Pro but have now decided not to.
The PS4 Pro was a good 4K upgrade at the time as was the Xbox one x.
But with this we are really splitting hairs and at £700 it’s a step too far for me.

Some of these Pro upgrades are so small and some due to bad initial game development on the PS5 console.

@DDDD
I’m UK and just checked and there seems to be no time given for PS5 Pro preorders on PlayStation Direct.
If no time is given and you want one, it may even happen at midnight tonight.

This was the moment of the show and the only part that made me feel like the old Sony PS4 days again.
Glad the game has finally arrived.

@rick1987
Not confirmed but I bet Sony have already got the marketing rights, bundle deals already to go for GTA6.

Totally and utter rubbish.
Apart from the saving grace that is Ghost of Yotei.
That’s what we want more of Sony.
The rest boring remasters and games on Xbox as well.

@Titntin
Hi all,
Whilst we wait, when did you first ever join PSN.
22/3/2007 UK.

@GamingFan4Lyf
Hi all,
Whilst we wait, when did you first ever join PSN.
22/3/2007 UK.

Hi all,
Whilst we wait, when did you first ever join PSN.
22/3/2007 UK.

Shall be watching at 11pm.
Absolutely no expectations for tonight.
But always live in hope.

@thefourfoldroot1
Same as me, normally it’s day one for me.
Like the PS4 Pro and Xbox one x.
But this is PS5 Pro is getting a bit pointless now even with my low, must have standards.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner
I now I get flip flop crazy. 🤪
I’m a gaming adrenaline junkie, that’s why the old days and the old shows and massive AAA reveals suited me so much better, the excitement the rush of what is coming in a year or two years time.
It’s all so dull now.
I’m just not happy with gaming in general or more the companies that are running the show.

@thefourfoldroot1
I did really enjoy the last of the PS3 days and of course the PS4 days, even the start of the PS5 was great for me.
But they have sort of changed and create no buzz about their up and coming games.

I was getting a Pro this Thursday but I’m more learning towards a no now.
Save me money and see what Switch 2 has to offer.

@HonestHick
Yes I prefer as you do the thumb stick and trigger design of the Xbox controller.
Have you got GPU?

Yes Astro Bot is fun and enjoyable.

@HonestHick
Yes I do remember, yet such a different Sony from the PS4 days and worse for it.
Now glad I still have my series x and gamepass until Match 2025, which continue if Sony keep this rubbish up.
I am now arranging my winter gaming on:
Stalker 2. GP
Indiana Jones. GP
AC shadow. MIGHT BUY
Avowed. GP

@Frmknst
I know but they have been so boring and quiet all year thought we might get something.

Such a different Sony from the PS4 days and worse for it.

@ButterySmooth30FPS
I appreciate Astro Bot loads.
But this Sony can’t even tell us what their studios are producing for next year 2025, that is poor and dull and boring, no excitement.

Remember they used to announce games even 2 years ahead, now I know things have changed but 1 year ahead should be ok.

@KundaliniRising333
Totally agree Sony couldn’t more dull and boring if they tried.
If that is the set up for tonight.
I thought Xbox confused me and even Nintendo a little bit.
But it’s now Sonys turn to confuse me even more, in terms of, what you up to as company.

You used show and tell us your amazing games coming in two years time.

Now you can’t even show what is coming a year ahead for 2025.

I appreciate Astro Bot really enjoying.
But Sony are getting so boring compared to the company in the PS4 days and at the start of the PS5 days.
What company wouldn’t say, here is what we have for 2025 from our studios.
Unless they have nothing.

Really hope we get one or two big NEW AAA announcements for 2025 release from SONY studios, that is not too far away.

It’s utterly ridiculous if we get zero from a company like this, something to look forward to for 2025.

Some on here give Sony such a wide birth and full of excuses for them. But come on, we are talking only next year 2025. Not 2026 etc.

If it’s only PS Direct on Thursday how do the scalper bots get around that as you have to sign in and have an account etc?
Perhaps I’m being daft.
Do they create lots of accounts and addresses etc.

Any idea of what time they going live on Thursday.
I’m sure in the past I remember something like 8am or 9am around there.

Yep same day as the PS5 Pro.
Sony nob heads.
Make even harder or worse.

You think they would want to create some hype for a £700 system.
Yes they will sell out Thursday. But from the 10th of October and onwards at retail they need to sell as well.

Surely we will get one or two Sony first part studio games reveal for next year release.

Even Xbox and Nintendo have managed that this year for 2025.
Not in an amazing way but at least something.

The excitement Sony used to create for their games seems to have diminished.
I mean saying a year in advance is ok, something to look forward to.

@Kalime78
I don’t think they care about scalpers getting them as long as they sell out and it creates FOMO for the next batch that release.

Sony should send out invites from PSN accounts for you to gain access and purchase this Thursday.

@Nei
Will go for a standard white pro probably.
Got to get in the queue first then onto the site
Then place me order and pay.
It’s a bit stupid to do it all on the same day.
They could have split it over two different days.
The pro on the 26th
The anniversary stuff the 27th, actually probably better the other way round.
But who’s crazy discussion it was to do it all at once I shall never know.

@jrt87
Totally agree on that should be sold on its own the Pro LE.
This is the part of Sony that so pisses me off, would love to give them a good keep it polite mouthful.

They really should have let PS5 Pro 30th be sold on its own.
I have no interest in the Edge controller adding at least £200 to the bundle.

Anyway good luck on Thursday everyone.

@__jamiie
Exactly my thoughts.
I wouldn’t mind as they might stop chasing high end graphics and tricks etc.
And actually releasing some games from their studios.
As long as you can dock them like the switch.

It’s all those 140 million switch consoles sold that’s got those big wigs getting excited.

Astro bot for me this weekend
Waiting patiently for PS5 Pro day
And Switch 2 reveal.

Well I hope these remasters get PS5 Pro enhanced as well.
Might as well do a proper job if they gonna do it.

@Tecinthebrain
Yep that’s what I’m gonna do.
But also probably go Pro as well.

@MasterChiefWiggum
In the UK we sometimes get random price drops.
But Black Friday and near Christmas it will drop as it does every year for a week or two.