OldGamer999

Nothing else it will keep the scalpers out the way, I think.

No chance at £700 disc less as well.
Is it 1tb?

I was definitely buying at my guess of £530
But not now at £700

No where did put my Switch and Series x 🤣

Well that’s not going to improve their 5 million down in Europe over the PS4 same time line.

Is it 1tb anyone know?

I was way out with £530

@DDDD
I’m in UK pounds
I think the discless will be about £530 ish.

I think some of it is to do with the whole Sony momentum in Europe/UK this year.
It’s been very quiet really with no big advertising campaigns and sort of big brand PR compared to other years.

This is what happens when you have quiet times.
Also I think they are down about 5 million consoles wise compared to PS4 same time line in Europe.

Additionally everything is so expensive now a days, even with some shop discounts.

@sanderson72
My opinion is overall this generation should have not started until around November 2023.
With the PS4 Pro and Xbox one x it would have been fine and ok to carry on until 2023 until a new generation in 2023.
Then we would have got the power of the PS5 Pro as a new generation in 2023.

Totally deserved and well done.
For me you took a rubbish gaming year all round for many reasons.
And turned it into a must have game with a meta of 94 and showed some where inside the gaming industry and Sony still have that buzz.

@HonestHick
Think you are onto something there Buddy.
Re boot the gears and halo and bring it day one to all devices and get everyone on board.
Good spot.

@Andy22385
I think the prices got leaked but maybe wrong.
£530 discless
£600 disc

I will be there getting one day one.

@SlipperyFish
But has production cost really gone up that much.
Or are we being scammed to death.

4 years into the PS4 life cycle it was selling for £200 new.

PS5 life cycle 4 years £480.

How the hell do they justify these massive cost increases.

@sanderson72
Your PS4 Pro £300, maybe PS5 Pro £600.

That’s double the price a 100% increase in purchase price.

I’m sure console suppliers are really taking the piss out of us gamers this generation.

@Nexozi
I’m definitely not for streaming from the cloud to improve the consoles performance.
All the power should be at hand in the console.

@Nexozi
Think 2027 will be the date for both of them.
That is if xbox release another console, I’m not sure they will.

Is destiny 2 still last generation?
If so I guess it will still be supporting last generation until 2026?
We will never shake of last generation at this rate, with fifa and COD following last generation as well.

The questions for me moving forward are as follows:

Does this mean this generation will end 2027?
Depends what pattern you follow.

Remember the PS4 pro was released 3 years after the ps4 not 4 like the PS5 Pro.
And had 4 years before PS5 release.

Does this mean the rumoured next generation Xbox in 2026 is not so? That’s anyone’s guess.

@PerpetualBoredom
Certainly seems a bit ruined at the moment for sure.

That £65 for ps5 controller and £50 for series x controller.

But then we have adaptive triggers, haptics and sound from the centre speaker, which I especially enjoy.

However I do prefer the series x controller in the hand to hold and the way the thumb sticks are positioned and the rear triggers shape and design.

Is the PS5 controller worth £15 more, depends really. I find the adapter triggers are a gimmick really, the haptic feed back great if used correctly and I do really enjoy the speaker in the controller all those nice sounds in your hand.

Tough one really, but for the most immersive experience when used correctly like in Astro Bot the PS5 controller wins, but a lot of time the controller is not really programmed that well in games.

Being honest in the UK where I work.
Our materials and parts have nearly doubled in price.
Wages have increased by about 20% over two years.

Cost of running a company, gas, electricity and insurance prices increased.

More staff have been employed, some due to slower working due to working from home, which everyone thinks they are entitled to nowadays.

So prices of the end product will increase.

Somehow as a country or maybe across the whole world, just everything is costing more.

From toilet roll to a top end sports car.

This is just the beginning, with Xbox slowly finishing as a console and games going multi console. It will just leave Nintendo and Sony in the console market.
The high end market being Sony all on their own doing as they wish.

They charge higher prices in the TV market where they have lots of competition, so god knows what they will do in the future with PlayStation prices in a captured market.

No matter what happens if you want one
You best get ready with that preorder button.

Wonder if preorders will follow straight after?

@Ravix
You’ve got no chance in hell.

What time please UK?
Can’t wait.

@jrt87
You know what I agree with you on that.
When I played GTA 5 I thought yeah it’s good but nothing that special.
I felt the character and especially vehicle control was poor and also sometimes the hide and shoot mechanics.
It’s definitely not up there with Sony Studios very best work.

I think Rockstar have also picked up on a well know UK 80s character
Del Boy.

Astro Bot, been a long time coming this year from Sony but a delightful gameplay, 94 meta.
Amazing game, runs 60fps and hits 4K sometimes. Zero bugs so far and faultless controls.
Now why can’t the rest of worlds developers get it right on day of release or at all.
Hang on like I’ve been saying for years the answer.
Just like Nintendo. Developing games for one target device, their own console.
Must be brilliant for developers to have that, one device make that game sing and be perfect on release.

Noticed there are 3 save files in this game.
I hope it is something Sony are going to do more of in the future.
It means a family or friend can play on my profile and get cloud saves as well using one of the save slots.

This very slightly makes up for me being a PSN subscriber but when say my daughter logs into her account she doesn’t get cloud saves.
She has to become a PSN subscriber herself to get the cloud saves. Even if my PS5 and my account is set to share mode. That just allows her to play the games but no cloud saves.

Very tight of Sony on that as on my series x, as long as it is my home console all that log in get cloud saves through my subscription.

Need to be careful with the pennies.
Some games I want.
And also PS5 Pro round the corner.

Playing right now, taking my time 100% each level as I move forward.

@Max_the_German
I meant more from what Sony commission to be developed.
Like give an Uncharted 5 please 🤣

Had one in my basket earlier today, Argos UK but didn’t bother and now they all gone.
But £70 gets me another game probably Silent Hill 2 in October.
Then maybe AC in November.

Oh well never mind.
Astro Bot is here.
Lesson learned, hopefully
Move on.

Argos UK have the Astro Bot controller in stock for collection, just thought if anyone missed out.

Celebrate good times come on.

Just get it announced Sony now Astro Bot is out so I can preorder.

Downloading now my Astro Bots

Finally!!!, The Playstation has come home.

If you try to sell average at best, you get average or below back.
You basically you reap what you sow.

Well we would have not had this trouble with
Uncharted 5. A New Legacy.
Starring drakes daughter.
Just lots of happy PlayStation gamers
Millions sold and maybe more consoles.
A big AAA game, critical acclaimed.
And brand momentum.

Let that be a lesson to you Sony.

Really surprised the review embargo isn’t until this Thursday as well. The day before release.

Well I think some of it has to be business related money wise.
Things seem extra tight in the gaming world of development. Then the extra time spent messing about with the series s.

And you have to consider your return on investment on a console that maybe doesn’t have a high enough user base and one that has game pass, so the users buy less games.

Even a games like fifa etc have a lot lower sales uptake on the series consoles and then the smaller user base as well.

Consoles for life no matter what.
There will always be a gaming console under the tv.
Because millions get sold and there overall is a profit to make.

@darylb24
Release date a bit later than I thought it would be.
Have just seen the flyer for it.
Probably go disc version not sure yet.
Best get my speedy preorder finger ready.

With all these leaks Sony might as well tell all now.

Astro bots £50.99
Silent hill 2 £54.99
Dragon age, is a maybe. £69.99

Let’s see if the more expensive £69.99 third party game is worth a AAA price.
Or Maybe just like SW outlaws 77 meta definitely not with a AAA price of £69.99. Actually it’s worn zero £££ to me.
Had it been 90 plus meta amazing etc then they would have got £69.99 from me.
I don’t see the point of any company releasing sub standard games, it’s embarrassing and shameful.

Who really cares it’s business and will continue throughout many different types of business.

This time next week we will all playing Astro Bot.

It’s about quality of the big AAA for me.
Would I pay £70 for SW outlaws at 77 meta game.
And after reading the reviews.
Absolutely no chance, I pay for top quality only.

£70 is ok for a very top quality AAA, the best of the best, up there with the best.

These publishers think we want to pay for sub standard rubbish from a quality AAA point of view.
They must be joking.