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@ShogunRok
Yep, if they start losing to many sales in Japan Sony will do something about it, I think.

But I’m very surprised about Astro Bot though, I thought the Japanese would have loved that game.

Dam you all beat me to it. 🤣

This what we need in Europe console sales drop and games sales poor.

But we never learn in Europe UK, we just pay and play 🤣

@DonJorginho
I was at £550 and got a shock 😮

@Vaako007
I do believe in the PS5 and Series x they have multi core CPU but very few developers use them, the thread cores. So that’s a waste of time having them.
If they did use the multi cores in the existing CPUs they could probably get around the CPU issues.

@DonJorginho
You are spot on there, forced profit by adding 2tb instead of 1tb and letting us decided to expand memory or not.
The PS5 Pro would have been at £600 then.

@DonJorginho
Why didn’t Sony go with 1tb memory on PS5 Pro and spend the £100 on a better CPU.
So the price still £700. Only 1tb of memory but a better CPU.
Instead of this half baked GPU fancy upscaling approach.

@themightyant
Why didn’t Sony go with 1tb memory on PS5 Pro and spend the £100 on a better CPU.
So the price still £700. Only 1tb of memory but a better CPU.
Instead of this half baked GPU fancy upscaling approach.

Why didn’t Sony go with 1tb memory on PS5 Pro and spend the £100 on a better CPU.
So the price still £700. Only 1tb of memory but a better CPU.
Instead of this half baked GPU fancy upscaling approach.

@PrettyPawsome
It’s the forced 2tb of memory that really has me annoyed it could £100 less with 1tb of memory.
Then the user can buy more like now if they wish, giving you the option.

Would rather 1tb in the PS5 Pro and the price still £700 with a better CPU, because that is where a lot of bottle necks are appearing in new games lately on consoles, resulting in reduced frame rates.
GTA6 will be a heavy use CPU game and the PS5 Pro won’t help at all with that as it has the same CPU as the PS5.

I would love a 60fps GTA6 as a rule I don’t play any game that runs at 30fps now.
I know crazy but there you go.

I think the PS5 Pro could do it, if it was a Sony in house developed game engine and Sonys top developers.
But it isn’t so I’m not too hopeful now.

I would rather Sony had given us just 1tb PS5 Pro and spent the hundred pound on a better CPU.

Then if we wanted more memory we could have expanded that ourselves.

I have a new Sony tv and soundbar system, sub and rear speakers. Top end range.

Is it the very best top tier I have owned absolutely
Did I pay more yes. Am I happy, absolutely.

And I have owned an Lg C3 and Samsung s90c.
But the Sony upscale and motion is so top tier even against those amazing TVs.

You pay more and Sony do dam well annoy me as they cut corners with sockets and things.
But if you want the best you pay and get over it I’m afraid.

@Bamila
Developers really have not got the knack with Unreal 5 yet, especially when optimising for consoles. And remember Unreal 5 is meant for all devices.

Some of this is issue is with developers not optimising that well on PS5.

I bet one of Sonys top developers with their own in house engine could produce either of those games you mentioned with a lot better results visually.

Well we know my answer.
Sony are utter trash for making it 2tb forcing you to buy at £700 which could have been £600 easily at 1tb and given you the buyer the option of buying more money if you wish.
They made it disc less, so you have that option.
Though they don’t want you to buy a disc drive really.
So why not with the memory, total business greed strategy.

Definitely performance mode every time.
If a game is only 30fps I don’t buy it, I know but 30fps is so blurry when panning around it looks horrible now a days compared to a good 60fps.

Also I have a Sony TV and I’m sure it does a better job when upscaling to its 4K screen and makes up a little for the lack of native 4K or drop in resolution when in 60fps mode.

That’s why I wonder actually what the PS5 Pro is going to give me.

@NEStalgia
You think it will be GTA6 60fps on PS5 Pro?

@NEStalgia
Yeah I wish Xbox had kept their games of PlayStation and taken a strategic head on battle now Xbox have enough studios to do so.

@IOI
You are spot on there with what you say.
The PS4 would not have been the amazing console and games and the back end of the PS3, if it had not been for the xbox360.

My gripe is Sony could have gone with 1tb at £600 in the UK, and let us make the memory upgrade if required. Just like they did with disc add on.

Interesting how Digital Foundry now all is revealed still believe GTA 6 will be 30fps on PS5 Pro barring something hidden in the console we don’t know about.

This is what happens when you have cornered the market with little competition around.

Shall we blame Xbox for putting their games on PS5 and almost leaving the console market, especially in Europe.
Only joking I am 🤣

Wonder if they will send out email invites
And what time preordering will begin UK.

This is absolutely true in UK.
I have just checked my regular stores I use and they selling like crazy and some are totally out of stock.
Like hundreds selling in the last 24 hours.

And we think the PS5 Pro, won’t sell.
I really can’t believe it, but it’s true.

@Rich33
I have Sony mini led x95l 65” and the upscaling and motion control settings using the Switch have outstanding results.

Also the best tv program upscaled and motion smoothing I have ever seen.

Not sure what to do.
Really need digital foundry to get hold of one and test a few upgrade games.

My TV a Sony and when using my Switch and set correctly fine turning etc.
The Switch looks better and is very smooth a sort of switch 1.5. It’s amazing what a top end tv can do with the settings fine tuned.

@get2sammyb
My point.
At no point did they say full native 4K at 60fps at the quality of fidelity mode.

So basically probably some fancy upscaling for £700, that’s a bit steep really.

@StylesT
It’s going to be fancy up scaling for the time being.
Maybe when Sony finally release a new big AAA with the Pro in mind we might get native 4K 60fps, but might come with cut backs.

For £700 I want true native 4K 60fps with all the bells and whistles of the quality mode as well.

@MrPeanutbutterz
Yes, fancy upscaling, not native 4K at 60fps.
What’s the point really.

So is it the originally PS5 1440p at 60fps, plus some fancy up scaling 🤣.
Very smoke and mirrors, especially at that price.

So Sony last of us 2 remastered PS5 performance mode is at 1440p 60fps.
Can you just exactly tell me what it will be running at resolution wise at 60fps in PS5 Pro?
You want to spend £700 so tell me what I’m actually getting.
Because I will bet anyone that it won’t be native 4K no tricks at 60fps and no cut backs from quality mode.

So Sony last of us 2 remastered PS5 performance mode is at 1440p 60fps.
Can you just exactly tell me what it will be running at resolution wise at 60fps in PS5 Pro?
You want to spend £700 so tell me what I’m actually getting.
Because I will bet anyone that it won’t be native 4K no tricks at 60fps and no cut backs from quality mode.

So Sony last of us 2 remastered PS5 performance mode is at 1440p 60fps.

Can you just exactly tell me what it will be running at resolution wise at 60fps in PS5 Pro?

You want to spend £700 so tell me what I’m actually getting.

Because I will bet anyone that it won’t be native 4K no tricks at 60fps and no cut backs from quality mode.

What was interesting when they showed these games running.

For the £700 they did not actually say look at last of us 2 remastered. Running at full native 4K at 60fps with all bells and whistles.

They never said that, just kept it all smoke and mirrors with quality and performance modes.

Just tells us, is it running full native 4K at 60fps Sony.

Well played those games I wanted to so I’m not playing them again.

The one that is interesting is AC shadows as it is not out yet.

“Many of the upgrades were on the subtle side. Sometimes I had to stop and check side by side to appreciate the difference.”

I think the above quote says it all.

Now we know we can expand the memory that is good.

But really shows Sony are cashing in, it should have been 1tb at £600.
Then we can decided to add more memory or buy the disc drive or buy nothing for ourselves.
Leaving the option up to us.

That is the only reason I’m pissed about the whole thing, not giving us the choice and making the price cheaper.

@LogicStrikesAgain
I don’t think Xbox will by the way.
It’s a Sony and Nintendo world now.

@Orpheus79V
That’s is my point. For £700 you want the best the game can possibly run but if a developer doesn’t take full advantage you are left with an over priced PS5 or Xbox series x.

@TrickyDicky99
I do wish Xbox was far more popular in Europe
If that’s the way Sony are playing it.

@danzoEX
Nintendo do seems the only ones with a sort of sensible hat on at the moment.
Let’s see what price the Switch 2 comes in at first.

@GamingFan4Lyf
Not the upgrade I was looking for.
I play at 60fps modes all games that have it.
But also I’m sure my TV a top Sony really helps to upscale to 4K, of course not native.

Can’t see how this £700 machine is going to improve things that much.

@Dodoo
Switch 2 for me also, we just need the announcement now.

What gets me they never even said that a game will be full native 4K at 60fps with all bells and whistle.
It could be a lot smaller upgrades than we think.
Smoke and mirrors.

What gets me they never even said that a game will be full native 4K at 60fps with all bells and whistle.
It could be a lot smaller upgrades than we think.
Smoke and mirrors.

What gets me they never even said that a game will be full native 4K at 60fps with all bells and whistle.

It could be a lot smaller upgrades than we think.
Smoke and mirrors.

Not the most amazing list at all.

Also I have a top end tv that upscales very well
It’s a Sony tv.

Can you expand the memory if you want more than the forced 2tb that comes with it?

It’s the forced 2tb adding the money

It was wrong to make it 2tb. That added about £100 to the cost.

It should have been 1tb and let you decided to expand memory or not.

They are forcing you to buy at a higher cost.

@breakneck
Well that added £100 for no reason and took the choice away to expand if you wish.

They really are pushing it Sony.

Nothing else it will keep the scalpers out the way, I think.

No chance at £700 disc less as well.
Is it 1tb?