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@thefourfoldroot1 "Mate, you are clearly unwilling to see things from anyone else’s point of view." And mate you're lacking the understanding of the situation. Why does it matter if it's "not for us"? The people that this is even for have a better option right now that is more affordable with dlc included. "I am able to accept that without getting bent out of shape about them “taking time away” from making games I might want more. " That is expected from what I've gathered. I'm more passionate about these games than you are and so are many other people. We've been waiting a lot longer than you for those other games to get similar treatment yet we're met with this. Talk about not seeing other people points of view huh? Heed your own advice. "Is it so hard to understand that someone who has bought an expensive next gen machine might want a version of the game that takes advantage of it?" That's great but they want that with NEW games. Not some 5 year old game that has already been improved on their machine.

That's fine you've come accross as ignorant and naiive. Being "entitled" is what corparate fanboys like to call people who call out bs. And I'll remain "whiny" because I don't just consume products. I ask questions.

"This doesn’t mean I can’t see this update might be nice for other PS5 owners. Maybe you should look beyond your own situation too." My own as if I'm the only one that has an issue with this but okay. I've already made it clear that you're a hypocrite.

@thefourfoldroot1 "Being a PS5 version is, of course, going to allow them to make it better." Subjective. "The fact that, to someone who has already played it, it might be only “incremental”, is clearly irrelevant to those who haven’t played it." Except for the fact they can just play the ps4 version.

"see above answer as to why it isn’t irrelevant to people who have not played the game before." Re-read why I stated it is.

"Are you seriously suggesting that this dev could remake those games, of which they have zero knowledge," Another dumb question. Bluepoint says hello. A developer who has taken demon souls from ancient hardware at this point and made it into a modern game while still keeping the original engine intact. Regardless of that. No I'm not expecting these devs to do any of that. But if we want to go that route. Killzone is a guerilla games game. Which would have been the better option. Or sony could have simply you know? Asked anybody else to do those games.

"You seem to be making a strange argument." It's not strange it's logically sound actually. You seem to be one of the only people struggling to understand. Keep pushing the new people argument. It hasn't worked for you so far yet you keep pushing that stale point.

Don't talk about game preservation while praising them "preserving" A game that's perfectly playable already. You have no idea what you're talking about in this regard. I mentioned games that are locked behind hardware that is trapped on old hardware sony has given up on. Those deserve it much more.

"It takes far far less time and effort than doing a complete remake with a likely very different team of people 10 years down the line." Now this is a strange argument. Lets praise less effort and remake every game from the past 5 years or hell 3 years and charge loads! Lets remake ragnorak in 3 years too why won't we!?! You are eating right out sonys hands. What's funny is your argument is for other people. While constnetly defending sony. I shouldn't be surprised considering the website we're on. But this is on another level.

@thefourfoldroot1

1. Being a Ps5 version means nothing. And incrimintal upgrades are not enough to justify it nor does that make it "better". You haven't seen anything nor have I. That wasn't my initial point to begin with. Regardless if it's somehow graphically superior. It's still unnecessary.

2. This argument is irrelavent when the ps4 version is still available on the same system.

3. Are you seriously asking such a dumb question? Bloodborne, Jack games, sly cooper games, old god of war games, legend of dragoon, wild arms, old killzone games, soul sacrifice, freedom wars, dark cloud etc. Games that these recourses can be poured into to get a remake/remaster. And I'll pull your card. Most of the games I've mentioned are actual games that loads of players have never played and a good chunk of them are not available on ps4 nor ps5. In what imaginary world do you live in that sony is somehow is doing this for new players and not just another lazy attempt for more money? You're naiive.

@thefourfoldroot1 "Really am not understanding you. The ps4 version is still available. This version doesn’t remove your ability to get and play it (Or play the one you have already). In fact, it’ll likely mean the market is flooded with more second hand cheaper versions."

Literally that is what makes this pointless. It's really not that hard to understand. And no this is merely a more EXPENSIVE version of a game that already exists and is only 5 years old. If you wanted to play this game you'd have played this already. I never understood why someone would wait for a "next gen" version that is 3 times more expensive than the one currently available is still very much playable. We're not talking re2 og to remake or the mass effect le. This game is STILL available for any newcomers. This argument is so stale and old it's not even that simple. New versions of games that came out prior are known to do poorly compared to their original release. Any new player with logic would just play the ps4 version with the ps5 update.

"And of course Sony aren’t giving it away for free, why would they?" It shouldn't be free because it shouldn't even exist to begin with.

" If you own that inferior PS4 version already then you’ll likely decide it isn’t worth the price to get the better version. What’s difficult to understand about that?" Inferior? Yeah that some strong words for someone who hasn't seen what the ps5 version even bring to the table. It's all of a sudden inferior even though it'll be the one always ahead in sales.

What's so difficult for YOU to understand that instead of working on an unnecessary remake, we can be getting a new IP or a remaster/remake that deserves it much more?

@thefourfoldroot1 Except being a ps5 version doesn't matter in the slightest when the original still looks really good and is available to play on ps5. And you're crazy if you think sony is going to give this away for free. So what are you losing? 50 bucks when you could have just spent 20. What else are we losing? Valuable recourses that can go to literally anything esle worth while.

@playstation1995 Strong agree. I'm not in particulurly hyped. But this could lead to more dead space in the future which I'd be hyped for.

@thefourfoldroot1 "For people who don’t own it it’s fantastic they can get a better version for their PS5." except for the fact it's not? You can literally buy horizon for 10-20 bucks at your local retailer and it runs at 60 fps and looks great. Hell it was even FREE through ps collection.

Sony wants to pretend games are expensive to charge 70 but then waste resources on something like this? Get out of here sony. Be better. Making PC look like the better choice more and more this gen.

What a joke. I remember when people thought re4 remake was unnecessary and sony really pulled a hold my beer.

Combat definitely didn't rock in that demo. But it was fun although it got old fast. Still going to check it out, but these low budget games should not be 60 dollars. Square is really smoking some *****. DioField is already doing poorly because of that.

@NoCode23 Yep the amount of remasters are ridiculious.

Not everything needs to be hd-2d guys. This still looks looks good for what it is.

No legend of heroes on this list makes it hard to take seriously. Actually there's a huge lack of great jrpgs on this list except the most mainstream ones.

Every time I mustered motivation to play the demo I never could finish it and it got boring fast. I even started skipping cutscenes and dialouge to get to the gameplay.

But insomniac can though. And they have two big ones. I hope they get the rest of the x-men and fantastic 4.

Not even close. I have a guilty love for the game. I see it's flaws and they are MANY. Part 1 is infinitely better. That's pretty objective. Not even up for debate unless you like teenage drama with no decent resolution.

Not feeling the hype for this one or u4. Really just waiting on returnal, bloodborne, demon souls, and tsushima.

Nothing beats bloodborne to me.

-Bloodborne
-Persona 5/royal
-Monster Hunter World
-FF7R
-Re2
-God of war
-Re7
-DMCV
-Dark souls 3
-Valkyria chronicles 4
-Yakuza 2 kiwami
-Yakuza 0
-Yakuza kiwami
-Yakuza 6
-Tales of berseria
-Ghost of tsushima
-Alien Isolation

Are some of my favorites. Can be flipped around but Bloodborne stay on top.

What a joke. LCD at those prices and monitors continue to lack behind in hardware while remaining super expensive.

Also I'm not seeing it in the review maybe I missed it but does it even have real hdr?

Edit: Ah found it 600, so the bare minimum as in it doesn't then.

Waiting for avengers to end up on here too.

@Andy22385 Blame NIS not the devs. They simply wanted to port the game for a quick buck. But durante put in some real work and weren't given the ps4 version.

Screw this port. I'll be playing this on pc and I recommend others to do the same, since it's an easy game to run. NIS has shown more lazyness yet again.

This collectors is terrible. I've bought the last two and they had way better things to offer. Not going to get me with this one. Especially with all that garbage I'd just end up leaving in the box anyways. If it included a statue or makotos mask or something maaaybe.

@zupertramp I'm advising others how not to do something. How is that nonssensical? Talk about salty. People will be asking if they should play u4 first. If they ask the answer is obvious.

" it really will be okay even if you play Tlou p2 first." Your opinion is invalid.

@zupertramp "I think you're taking this way too serious. They're video games" Keep this nonsense out of here. Some people are more passionate than you about video games and that's okay.

It's not going to be okay. It's fine to remain ignorant. But if you think that won't affect sales you're delusional. There's literally posts on steam people wanting the first 3 and confused about why they aren't there. And you'll have the constant question being asked "can I play this without the first 3?" The obvious answer is no.

Again if YOU'RE that type of person to do that you would defend that. Either way my point stands. U4 is not cleverly written to let you appreciate it without the first 3. That's like playing last of us 2 without the 1st and not knowing the hardships of joel and ellie.

@Floki "Outside of Nathan relationship with his wife and sully, and a couple of nods in his attic" That my guy is a pretty big deal. You know nothing of elena or sully and the hardships that lead nathan to where he is at. Nor why those relationships are so important to him. Nor do you know the reason why nathan is so obssesed with treasure or why him and elena keep having their ups and downs. I feel sorry for you ruining your experience like that. I guess anybody who would do that would try to justify it. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

@Floki Uh yes you do. God of war is set up way differently. For new players you're playing from Atreus perspective. For returning players you're playing from kratos perspective. And I still say you should play the others. But gow 2018 is cleverly written. Uncharted 4 is not anywhere remotely treated like that.

Without the first 3 this is doa unless certain pc gamers played the 1st 3 prior on ps3/ps4.

Game with so much potential ruined. Is the garland armor STILL not in the game yet?

With competition like that and it only being the first month isn't saying much at all.

@get2sammyb To me MAG felt like that game that could. But sony abandoned it.

Was thinking about getting this but it just looks so dated and clunky. On top the world looking souless. Lies of P really setting the bar a lot higher for souls likes.

9/15 for me. Not a bad quiz, def some stuff caught me off guard.

Yeah when it comes to pc or is heavily dicounted.

Less because of less content. Yaaayy!!

@neitan Ah, the good old "I have nothing to respond with so I'll vent on the internet by making fun of a random age number HAHAHA"

More political nonsense being put into games by soyny. So sick of this stuff. Be whatever you want, but keep that out of games and movies ffs.

The dead game gets new content over a 1 year into release and split the existing small playerbase. Good job!

As weird as it may sound I would buy one of these games if it was centered around thomas the train lol

@IronMike shhh you're supposed to consume and not ask questions!

That's the extra 10 bucks you pay for went into.

@Highlar oof well about that. On pc it's about 102gb. That might be with all the updates. I'm not sure if that includes the og pso2. So good luck sending stuff to the guillotine lol.

@Highlar I think 12-12:09pm. Not sure myself but that was the time the monthly ps plus games updated.

@Northern_munkey Sure especially since you proved my point.

Honoring by changing character faces and body types, and reselling the same thing without mp, and charging more. Yaaayy. They should honor last of us 1 by retconning 2.

One trash tops another lol I mean even I know as someone who is not a fan of horizon that it's better than saints row. But ffs being topped by that of all games, even if it's new is sad.

@Northern_munkey Ah the great internet buzzword. This one might be bad in many ways. But I bet someone like you can't tell me why.

@get2sammyb Is that before or after they closed down japan studios, moved their hq to ***** california, and tried to close down ps3 and vita stores?

@commentlife There is none. Guess it's just cool to hate on discord now apparently.

@get2sammyb And why not? It's a huge improvement and it'll make crossplay even better.