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I think it's crazy to see all these people complaining about games LAUNCHING on Plus. A couple years ago, that was a very rare occurance...now it's a monthly advantage, but they still whine because it's not the other thing they want. You'll never please everyone, of course...but I prefer being offered something there's no way I already own. Fez and TowerFall were disappointments in that regard, simply because I'd already purchased them amd they're not even that old.

I think the Indie label has value, but only if people can agree on a definition that makes sense. THAT'S the real problem with it.

Only question I have is what would they do about the multiplayer? It might not be advisable or worthwhile to rebuild both U2 and U3 MP on PS4 (enough abbreviations there for ya?), ESPECIALLY if they had the full Trophy sets from PS3 (way too time intensive for completionists). But if they cut it, would people complain? Perhaps that would depend on the cost of the collection...surely $60 for all three games (or four...Golden Abyss love?) without MP would be a good deal. Of course, all this assumes that U4 still has stellar MP coming...which I don't think has been announced yet, so who knows? Whole thing's kinda complicated.

And of course, considering the size of the games on PS3, you could be sure this collection would take at LEAST two discs...more likely one per game outright, possibly depending on MP or lack thereof. Downloading? You'd have to be crazy...which I'm sure wouldn't stop some people.

Oh, and to those complaining this invalidates PS Now: No, PS Now has done a fine job invalidating itself between the horrible service and outrageous pricing. Yes, both of those could THEORETICALLY improve with time, but I don't think it's likely to be enough to matter. Collections like these are really the superior route where feasible. You just need to get a small enough team cranking them out that the rest of the crew can work on new stuff unimpeded.

@get2sammyb Yeah, that too. I really wish Nintendo would consider doing that, but it's been increasing obvious over the years that they don't want to release ANYTHING they can't make a fat wad on anymore (and yet Glory of Heracles made it out for some bizarre reason...go figure). And Microsoft...well, I guess they think it's okay to just bank on a small selection of IP's, and to be fair it's mostly seemed to work for them for a while. Not too sure that'll pan out this go-round, though.

Thus far, the comments seem to be ignoring the subsidizing element here. He said that some of their games sell SO well as to make back the money spent on other titles. IMO, this is a FANTASTIC business method as it increases the variety of software available for your hardcore fanbase. Some games are just very unlikely to make a profit for one reason or another, but you can't do justice to a creative medium if you refuse to make them because of that individual basis.

Seems you're damned if you do or don't though...people complain when companies are all about profit, and they're concerned when they decide to carefully play the numbers like this.

If this happens, it'll be the first PS4 Plus offer I already own. Well, it was bound to come up sooner or later...

I dunno...heard it has issues that EA tried to fix with Microtransactions instead of an actual title update on Xbone. If they don't fix all that, I really don't want anything to do with this game.

So you mean to tell me that in the land of mass public transportation and often smaller living spaces, people prefer portable game devices regardless of the launch of new consoles? Noooo...couldn't be!

Seriously though, not sure why this is news; I'm not the least bit surprised. Between software availability; cultural differences; and the fact that a lot of the console's features were clearly designed more with the West in mind (which is itself linked to culture, I guess), it was a given that the PS4 wouldn't do the crazy numbers it's been doing out here in its native land. I don't think that's really even a problem for Sony either...I'm sure they also had the sense to foresee this, hence the Western focus up to and including the delay of the Japanese launch.

Well, I'm glad I know why Insomniac jumped ship to Xbox now...and it's a reason I can't really blame them for. I DO blame all involved for Insomniac not just being bought by Sony outright already, though. Naughty Dog and Sucker Punch did...now Insomniac feels like the odd one out from the PS2 platformer trifecta. sigh

As it stands, I do understand and agree with Sony's desire to own things it pays for...but I do feel better about it when they own the developers as well. Then again, I trust Sony to have other devs make good games more than Activision all the same. Whole thing's kind of a mess overall.

Interesting fallout to come along and read post-edit. For the record, speaking as an American...I'm sick of the stereotype American gamer not because the existence of the stereotype is unfair but because it holds some degree of truth. No stereotype is born in a vacuum, and the fact of the matter is that certain mainstream cultural tastes have shaped the industry and resulted in some types of games being viewed as very "niche" here. So from what I gather, AFCC never would've offended me...I'd be right along with him complaining about those people. After all, they're the reason I have to import some games and hope for fan translations of others.

Anyway, with regards to Tokyo Jungle...I bought it at launch and played a fair bit. I like the game, but I think it gets too hard pretty quickly for a lot of the species. I never managed to survive 100 years, and being sent through the northwest areas was always pretty much a death sentence. But my brother finished all the Trophies and said the key was using some of the bigger, stronger animals. Unsurprisingly, some of the DLC creatures are best suited to the task...and while I did buy them all, I never got around to trying them all out. I'd like to give it another go but I doubt I'll find the time with all the other games I'm falling further and further behind with.

"and participants have no doubt been using the service to stream games until their thumbs drop off from exhaustion"

I used it twice...it runs SO badly I haven't bothered to go back. Got better things to spend my time on.

@kensredemption: So far as I can tell they're just showing the regular PS Store data regarding the games...that's the only reason the game would have over twelve thousand ratings listed, too. The game size really doesn't matter AT ALL for PS Now in theory, but it's there because they haven't gotten around to formatting the streaming menus properly yet.

@dok5555555: It's a holdover from the normal PS Store listings for the games. It really just means you can't buy the game for download, but if it's on PS Now, streaming is still fine.

I think the most obvious problem with the new one is it took the Marvel comics font. It's like they're TRYING to confuse people...they might be lucky to get away with this out of court.

Four PSP games and two 3DS ports...pretty poor offering, IMO. From my experience, portable Lego games aren't really worth the bother because the console versions are always MUCH better. The fact that this bundle skips several other more recent Vita titles makes this worse.

"This game is anticipated to be rated Mature."

Noooo...ya think? I'm amazed they can push this out and still can't justify releasing certain other fan-favorite titles. I hope XSeed know what they're doing...

I haven't played it yet to begin with...so this sounds good to me.

@get2sammyb: It applied to ANYTHING released on 360, regardless of publisher. In all likelihood, that policy remains in place unchanged and this one is only being publicized more because it's easier for the general gaming public to get info on it.

To be clear here, MS has had this policy for YEARS. It's nothing new, and I can't see them having the sense to finally drop it. It worked for them in Gen 7 because 360 sold so well...but with PS4 SPANKING Xbone right now, I think we're going to wind up with more and more indies just ignoring MS as a result of this idiotic rule.

I just want to know if they're going to keep adding games to the collection. Bring on Pac-Man 2!

@divinelite: Sorry, I'm not interested in covering the costs of a company releasing THE WRONG PRODUCT. I can't fathom how they thought this was a good trade-off instead of just waiting for the English release. Most people would have rather waited, and this situation is straight-up STUPID.

First one caught my attention the other day due to comparisons to other games I like, including the Zero Escape series...but I don't actually have it yet. Good to know the sequel isn't in jeopardy, though.

Guess I'm a doughnut, then...but I'm not alone. Usual art concerns for me, but I didn't really notice the different voice. Either way, not that excited just yet.

Squenix seems to really like this business model nowadays...but this one seems like a step down from Bravely Default if it's not unique content. Meanwhile I don't wanna miss these costumes for when/if I get this game, but I never got around to play XIII-2, so I'm concerned about spoilers. sigh

Kingdom Hearts II.5 HD ReMix, duh! Kind of annoyed I had to go into "Other" just to say that.

Online Trophies are getting so bad, they affect my purchasing decisions. Sony permanently lost my potential interest in Resistance and Killzone with BS MP Trophies, and I'm DEFINITELY not interested in giving Tomb Raider another go-round with the exact same Trophy list. The Trophies in AC: Brotherhood are the SOLE cause of my hated of the series at this point...I finally got that Plat with boosting buddies, but by that point I had zero interest in moving forward with the series, which really sucks because the single-player (starting with II) is so good! But no...I think of the series, I burn with hatred. Does that make me over-reactive? Maybe, but so what? It's still on them to provide a product I enjoy, and if I have these kinds of feelings because of their game, then guess what: THEY FAILED.

@FullbringIchigo: It's probably because it would take a LOT more work to remake DS games in HD than PS2/PSP games, and they aren't even the best games in the series to begin with (well, 358/2 Days, anyway...haven't played Coded yet). It was a judgement call that getting the plot points to us was more important, and although it's a weird choice, I don't have a huge problem with it.

Can't say I'm surprised...I already got my PS3 Plat, and I wasn't as head-over-heels for the game as a lot of people to begin with, so I really think I'ma just give the PS4 version a pass. It's just not worth the bother.

I somehow missed the news that Brothers was already out on PSN (pretty sure it hit XBLA a bit earlier). Oh well, free for me anyway.

Nah, I added to my Bluray movie backlog instead.

None of the answers really applies to me, because I've been spending a lot of my time on games on non-Sony platforms lately. I do have a PS4, and I like it...but it hasn't gotten much attention over the past couple of weeks...but my PS3 hasn't fared much better save for watching movies.

@ztpayne7: Super Putty was the first game, actually...Putty Squad was a sequel.

I was AMAZED to learn this was even a thing the other day...and as of yet I still have no idea if it's ever coming Stateside. Not really sure how interested I am...and I guess anyone in that boat might be better off checking out the old SNES games first, especially since this one is priced kinda high for what it is.

@RisefromAshes: There's still enough on Wii U to make it worth having for a Nintendo nut, though. I bought one at launch and I don't regret it. That said, I DEFINITELY wouldn't want to rely on JUST that moving forward, which is why I also bought a PS4 at launch.

I'm definitely in the camp that believes this policy will do more harm to Microsoft than Sony or Nintendo. This worked last gen because Microsoft held high ground on install base...but they're falling behind Sony pretty quickly right now, and it's just not going to be worth Indies' bother to bow to their demands this time around.

Yeeeeeah...this news doesn't mean anything about the consoles' relative success due to the facts admitted in the very same article. Of COURSE Sony couldn't compete on Black Friday in America when that was also launch day overseas! America may historically be Sony's weakest market, and I'm sure it'll remain Microsoft's strongest, but I still don't really believe MS will win out overall...not after they screwed up so badly, no matter how much damage control they've done.

I saw an ad for the game on GameTrailers last night...thought it was odd since it hadn't REALLY been announced yet. Silly people.

@RisefromAshes: I agree...unless, as Sammy suggested, they remove the MP Trophies. I don't realistically expect them to do either of those things, though. They're more likely to keep the existing Trophy set and maybe pack in some of the MP DLC from previous versions of the game.

I was skeptical of the button, but once I had the system and got to try it out, it didn't take long at all for me to fall in love with it. I can facilitate plot discussions on FB that don't rely entirely on memory (with appropriate spoiler warnings, of course) and share crazy bugs, high scores, whatever. Played a great game of Fortune Street recently and was just aching for Share functionality...boy, did I get spoiled fast!

Of course, the fact of the matter is this statistic proves very little. An average of three presses per console sounds piddly, but you have to consider that it's balancing no-goes like SilentJ & my brother and addicts like me & one of my friends. In my opinion, the feature has turned out VERY worthwhile, but you can't hope to please everyone.

@rjejr: For what it's worth, I don't blame you at all for complaining. I just wanted to make sure you had the facts while doing so. I agree, there's really no excuse for them not preparing for the slamming they're getting right now. This happens EVERY time a popular online-related product releases, and most of us are getting sick of it. Sadly, there doesn't seem to be much recourse other than general online bitching, which doesn't tend to get results. The situation is only made worse when other people choose to DEFEND the company for being cheap like this...and that's all this is, they didn't want to pour more money into servers they had to have KNOWN they'd need.

@rjejr: Actually, PSN DID have some issues at the US PS4 launch a couple weeks ago...just not as big or as long as this one. I'm sure this has been cause by a combination of factors...the true problem with putting the European launch on freaking Black Friday.

I grabbed a Plus code on Amazon as soon as it was possible (due to problems on their end that was about 4am EST yesterday), and it took almost another full hour to push the activation through on PSN. It was frustrating, but understandable. I'm just glad I did manage to get it done quickly, because my Plus would have run out in about a week and I'd rather not worry about things. Hope everyone still having problems is able to push through soon.

@Sanquine: Don't forget those sales numbers don't include downloads, which have been picking up steam CRAZY fast lately regardless of Nintendo's archaic account system. I think the Wii U COULD be a bigger threat than the Xbone once Nintendo's software picks up and people realize just how many problems the Xbone really has...problems that time can't fix.

@RaymanFan2: Their usual schedule SHOULD be disrupted soon since they split into two development teams a while back. The new Uncharted should have been in development since shortly after U3 released, giving them PLENTY of time to get it out in 2014.

I can't blame them for this since Twitch streaming is supposed to be a relatively safe and unpoliced environment that ANYONE has access to. People comparing it to Nintendo are ignoring the facts entirely. Still a shame it had to come to this, but that's what happens when you give human beings freedom nowadays.

I still want to know why the hell lower digital pricing is STANDARD on Vita but nonexistent on PS4. What happened, Sony?

As it stands, if I can get a physical copy for the same price or less, I'll do it in almost every instance (only game on any platform I've broken that rule for is Crosswords Plus on 3DS...seems like the right game to have on the SD card and they had that Donkey Kong Original promo at the time). That said, my digital library is still growing thanks to PS Plus, because I'm not stupid enough to turn down the benefits of the program just because I don't get a disc or card that way.

My main problem isn't technically with the CONTROLLER, but with programmers. All throughout the PS3's lifecycle, I was used to aim and shoot being on the 1 buttons...now all of sudden it's been moved to the 2's and I'm having a HORRIBLE time adjusting. Why the hell did they feel the need to do that? :/

@nathanuc1988: " a change like that would be difficult to get used to now"
Ain't that the truth! Anyone with a Wii U can attest to that. The real problem is that they're still programming face buttons as if the stick was in the old place...this can cause problems in 3D games where you have camera control and need to be able to jump and jump is still mapped to B like always.

@PMasterTy9: First step has already been taken. Only mildly dirty video, but a sure sign of things to come.

Yeah, the "average" person...I know at least three PS4 owners (including myself) who don't have ANY EA games yet, so you can be darned sure there are people putting in a LOT more time than 2.3 hours.

@Epic: I wouldn't worry about that...they've actually ALWAYS had variable success with the licensed games they pump out. We didn't used to pay too much attention because they hadn't been in the public eye as much as they are now. This is the kind of game where I GUARANTEE you they didn't have full creative control, and they were probably on a tight schedule from their publisher. So overall, I think it's important to view WayForward's catalog in two groups: labors of love and cash cows...this one is certainly in the latter camp.

Not that I'm very interested in this game anyway, but there's no WAY I'd buy the sequel without the first game. These idiots are shooting themselves in the foot. Only chance they have is if the Xbone fails badly enough that they feel the need to back out of their deal.

I finished this game in one go on Saturday...while I agree on certain negative aspects, others I think are a little overblown in the review. It's worth noting that yes, a fair bit of story is in the collectables, but they are NOT well hidden for the most part, so it's no strain to get them. I did hit a couple bad bugs, one of which forced me back across one of the longest no-checkpoint segments of the game, but I definitely think it's worth a play anyway. Yes, another patch or two would be appreciated (it already had one patch at release, oddly enough), but I think this deserves more of a six or seven, personally.

@DRL: Try not to let the score bother you too much...I did read the review, and IMO it's not deserved based on the text. No indications given of bugs or the like...seems more like the kind of game with limited appeal that's being harshly judged as a result. I wouldn't let this review turn me off from trying the game, actually...if I was an existing fan of the IP. Been meaning to watch this stuff on Netflix...

@get2sammyb: I haven't seen any real indication of Vita management support...the Store only has PS4 content on it ATM, that's for sure.

@ztpayne7: You can tell it to show your username by default online, but I haven't found a way to make it do so on your own system.

That bottom area for the social feed doesn't seem to be working at the moment...I've yet to see anything pop up there whatsoever.

I'm torn on this...I have in the past finished 100% completion runs on some of those "old-school hard" PS1 games...all of the Crash and Spyro titles, to be specific. But it's really a pain in the butt, and I have a lot less patience for time trials now. We'll have to see how this goes...

As long as they don't throw in some BS time trial like they did on Kingdom Hearts, I really don't think the Trophies will upset me too much...I'm a completionist anyway, so I'd already be going for a lot of those optional things. I never finished the game on PS2...I was in the middle of monster capture farming at the time, guess I got distracted. I think Trophies might help me stick with it...hard to say.

@ShogunRok: If that's what you want, you don't even want a next-gen console at all...there's simply no way this can be avoided if you want gaming to evolve past current-gen, as they canna change the laws of physics.