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Looking at Cyberpunk yesterday in all its glory with full ray tracing may have changed my xmas plans, 3080 matched with a 8 core Ryzen 4 (provided they release before year end) with PC gamepass may be what ends up plugged into my TV for the next 12 months. I'll pick a BLACK ps5 when they have a few first party games in the bag but I really want to play cyberpunk how I saw it yesterday

Also is MK8 the new GTA? just how long is the top ten going to a top 8 plus the usual

What is this nonsense off a N(Not)FL game selling in the UK. Surely there must be a law against calling a game where you pick, throw and run with a ball "football"
And we will give Rugby tacking it on the end of their name a pass just based on the fact those guys don't need padding or armour and I'm not crazy enough to pick a fight with them!

I really like these small mid road games but I'm in agreement with most here. The games need a gamepass style service to finance and support them. Its just not worth punting the cash on a little game with so many games available for a small monthly fee

I have a full on Dolby Atmos system in the games room and it can be incredible for games that support it. It is so much more than surround sound. It can place the sound effect in a exact spot in the room, not just a direction but a precise place anywhere in the room. You can hear a bullet whizz past your head and off into the distance with the sound telling you just how close it came and just where it came from. It's really good on movies and some music mastered with Atmos is intense but it's beyond great in games that natively support it. Like @GamingFan4Lyf says, it's better done in some games than others but when its good its sooo good.. At the moment our PC does not have support but xbox does. The big problem with a full Atmos system is cost. I paid early adopter tax and it cost me just over £3000 for a pro level system to cover a 8m x 10m room. But even though its now much cheaper its far from cheap.

What I am really hoping is PS5 supports Atmos as well as its own system. It adds more to a game when done right than any other advance since we left CRT screens behind. I don't want to have to go back to using headphones on the PS5

Thing is all this year needs for me is new consoles and CP77. And sorting out this covid problem wouldn't hurt

The good old days when EA made games not slot machines. Think this was the last good NFS, it's the last one I bought and played at least. Not good enough to pull me back into the franchise 10 years later though.

Mehhh, Not for me. Personally I would prefer their time and effort went on expanding the SP game but hey, sure many will be happy with this news

@Jake3103 Thanks, sounds good.

@Jake3103 How is the map layout? The opening of short cuts and interconnects are important rewards and help pacing in SoulsBourne games

@DavLFC He said 4k 60+fps, not Raytracing. And it is basically a corridor shooter despite what they say. Of course some games will hit all three 4K, 60fps and ray tracing. But not large open vista games with lots of complex geometry. But again, so what. If you're chasing numbers buy an Xbox but numbers don't dictate the quality of the end product.

Its very likely we will not get full ray traced, 60 fps true 4k games on the PS5. So what. I'll take ray traced 60fps any day over true 4k. And DLSS-2 is producing results better than true 4K + Anti-aliasing. Not clear Sony or AMD have something to match it yet but it will come as the generation progresses.

It does seem to be quite a poor porting effort. One thing that is very surprising is it also has problems on some systems running Ryzen2 CPUs and RDNA GPUs. I would have presumed the PC port would have, in part, readied the games PS5 patch, so expecting good performance on that hardware.

Have to say it does look fun, Not a day one but a budget pickup down the line for sure.

Kind of think I'll go Corpo first run. Play it smart and quite. Back story supports role playing in three distinct play styles as it should. So looking forward to taking this round the block three times

@SaikoWaifu2003 Yep, it is really no different from consoles now, Just let Geforce and Steam keep everything updated. I mean Geforce will even configure the games settings based on your hardware if you want it to.

PC games just need to scale better than consoles. I did wonder if it was put out in a state that limited its potential on purpose so as not to draw to many comparisons with the PS4 Pro looking very weak. Either way, I'm sure it can be sorted with a little effort.

Good, Hitman VR all three games.. Great, Just not on PSVR. Time for PSVR2. Think that was my highlight

Doom 2016 > Doom eternal

Free Skyrim?? What witchcraft is this?

Yep, I kind of think this game may need all the help it can get at this point. Don't know if its just me or if the lack of hype is universal but I don't think upsetting the limited mind share you have is a good move with so much investment on the line

Forget the state of play, I want that controller!

I've not been in any hurry to jump in on part 1. Planned to wait til its complete but it will fill an empty PS5 gap some point down the line

It will always be better to off load stream processing for those that are serious about it but having easy to use built in capability is a good thing for those on lower budgets, just starting out or just having fun. It's a feature that will be totally unused by most but really appreciated by those who do use it. Great addition

@Enigk I'm not a fan at all but my teenage kids are all over it. I'm happy for those that find things to enjoy in general but I could really do with not having to listen to the kids going on and on about this streamer or that. But I'm just an old man shouting at clouds at this point.

Sounds good, not sure if I'll double dip though. I'm much more likely to buy PC games than actually play them. The write up does show why I'm not that excited about Sony's super speed SSD. At the moment I have a PCIe 4 SSD in my pc for running games off. Loading rarely takes more than a single second. At twice the speed it will .5 of a second but saving .5 of a second just becomes a none issue. Standard M.2 PCIe ssd's are as fast as needed at this point.

All 3 of my PS4 controllers are down to about 3 or 4 hours, less if using the headphone Jack. I keep them on charge rotation so always have 2 at the ready but given that Switch and XBox (with rechargeable kit) are around 20 hours I was hoping for similar. Still better is better and I'll take what I'm offered.

I'm still hoping dolby atmos will be supported along side Sony's own 3d sound engine. I know sony plans to have more simultaneous sound locations compared Atmos but I already have a full Atmos setup and I don't know what hardware outside of the Playstaion headphones will support the Sony system.

@kratreus It's likely you will be correct but we don't yet know what RDNA2 will be composed of so its not clear AMD will not have Tensor like component on the die.

The pole is missing a anything but white option!

On a serious note. It looks like xbox will be my multi-plat platform this time round so I'll pick up the PS5 when the first exclusive I must have releases

I'm not one for integrating clutter into the UI myself. But it would be nice to jump straight into the game where you left off, without dumping memory to disk like MS is doing which rarely works well in the real world.

Next Gen its just a fact that the Xbox SX is quite a lot faster than the PS5. Its no good looking at the PS5 max boost clock and comparing with the Xbox base clock as saying its only "a marginal teraflops advantage" Its just not true. Its going to be a 30%+ advantage. But that's OK. Its not just about power its the games. They are why I bought a nintendo switch and why I have always owned, and always will own, a Playstation.

I'm going to wait for black to order mine

I'll buy a Xbox SX for game pass and cross platform and a PS5 for the exclusives. I've always owned a PS for the OG and the X is my very first Xbox. But if I could only have one due to fiances I really think I would go Xbox this gen as it has more power and game-pass is such good value. I think this next gen will be a lot more competitive than current

It was a good AA game, not sure it needs DLC but I'm not against it. I also wounder if I'll reinstall to play it though or if it will forever sit in my backlog like 90% of DLC content.

I gave it a 8, should really have been a 7 but it was better than good, it was great but not Great. I played for just over 30 hours I think. I wanted a 20-25 hour game but it held me around with nice environments to explore.

@Peach64 100% agree on scores. Good should be a 5 and work up and down from there.

I never made it through P5, great game but it went on and on.. guessing P5R goes on longer so...

All the more space for A BIGGER battery please Sony

Not pre ordering until I see it in black. I've decided to wait. Had day 1 PS3 and PS4. This time I can wait if only the white is released on launch day
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@THGhost looks over to my left... Yep it's still there. A full fat day one PS3

It has enough hunt under the hood that the PS5 should have no trouble running a PS3 emulator.

Ok, so I'm going to come clean. I have over 800 hours in NMS on PC. Almost all of it in VR. In the real world I have been in a wheelchair for the last 20 years but I put on the head set and explore strange world's with the freedom to run jump and fly where I please... It is my escape.

I watched my son playing Death Standing today at 120fps Ultra wide on PC. It really did look so much better than it did on PS4 Pro. I don't like playing on my PC as I sit on it for hours working and gaming is escapism but boy we need next gen to catch up

If they only release it in the white, I may wait until a black model is released. The only PS exclusive game I saw as a must have for day one play was GoT which I was going to hold off as and use as my launch game. But that changed with the delay of CP77. So GoT arrives on Friday and CP77 will be my launch game for next gen. But at the moment, with the PS5 looking lower powered and quite ugly (subjective) I'm thinking of going with an Xbox on launch for the first time.

The main thing I want to change on the controller is battery life. I've gotten used to 20+ hours from the switch and xbox controllers and the 3 hours each all of my PS4 controllers last hurts.

@Ridwaano I'm worried about Sony's 3D audio. I have a full Dolby Atmos set-up now and its great Xbox one X can place sounds anywhere in the room and it adds a lot. I know Sony's solution has more sound position points but what hardware will it support. At the moment it seems its only the PS5 headphones. Given I already have over a £1000 Atmos system and It is supported by all the TV and streaming services as well as Xbox I hope Sony will support it along side their own propitiatory system

I think the scores in reviews need to drop down 2 points out of 10 on average. When OK seems to be a 7/10 it does not leave a lot of room at the top for separating really good games. I'm not sure why this has happened in gaming. When you look at other media TV/Movie/Book/Music all seem to be viewed more critically. A really good movie will average out around 7.5, So will middle of the road games

Based on the fact there is not level gating, no forced open world stuff, I'm sold. It also seems main story is about 25 hours which is perfect for me. Only 100 hour game I give that much time to is CP77. I was planning on waiting on GoT for PS5 launch but its not going to happen. I ready for the weekend!

Just think, out there somewhere are people who bought the collectors edition of Assassins Creed Unity. I remind myself of that every time any pro-order tugs at my purse strings. It's a good way to keep your money where it should be until the reviews are out!

So does this mean PS4/5 games will be on the Epic game store?

Yep, seeing this makes me think I should wait before getting a PS5 until I'm able to get a black one. I do not like the white at all. Don't know that will happen though. It tradition now to run out and get a console day one and wait a year for anything decent to play on it!

Only for Cyber Punk 2077!

At the moment for a 1TB PCIe 4 fast SSD you are looking at about £150 upwards. And they climb to well over £1000 as you increase speed and size. As I understood the presentation PCIe 3 SSDs will not be supported so so forget the £100~£120 cards you see, must be PCIe 4. Even some cheaper 4.0 M.2 cards "only" run around 2/3000 Mbs. At 5000Mbs and upwards it is unlikey you will notice any difference from the internal. As memory bandwidth is shared between loading from SSD and supplying the APU it will be pretty congested at that point and the high apu clock speeds result in increased latency for memory access.

PCIe 4.0 M.2 SSDs can get very hot and most included a heat sink which are unlikely to fit but hopefully Sony will follow the examples of the motherboard makers and include a built in heat sink over the slot.

I would wait as Long as possible to buy expansion, not only will PCIe 4 prices drop but expect speeds to increase a lot over the next year or two.