"The leaker says the Black Friday promotion will run from 12th November to 12th December" You mean from the 22nd right?? 16th today and no sale is live....
"you're right. It's not the same. The PS5 Pro will be obsolete in 3-5 years along with it's game library (most likely). My steam account will be good until the day I die....just a fact "
So you ran out out arguments and pulled out your inner PCfanboy? What you just said has nothing to do with the topic we discussed. And no, the Pro, and the OG PS5 for that matter wont be obsolete in that timeframe. My OG PS1 is still going strong and does exactly what it was intended to do and so is my PS2.
And my PS5 gamelibrary will work just fine on the PS6 for sure, so I don't see how you think you can have a point to begin with. ??
I still have access to ALL my games on my PS3 so Sony is actually taking really good care of my games (not to be forgotten: my PS4/PS5 games) But I lost 2 games on Steam since 1996ish... So that's that.
No but if you "benchmark" a PS5 / PS5 Pro with a systembench made for PC architecture you get "PC architecture"-results. It says nothing about all the functions in the PS5 chip on a system level. I worked with this stuff for almost 2 decades, It's not the same in PS5/PC... Just a fact.
@8bitOG Yes ofc it is. But you can't compare 2 completely different system architecture with a single benchmark just like that. Sony modded their chips so hard they have no resemblance with their original originparts anymore. so you sound completely out of touch. Google it. It's all "out there".
@8bitOG You can't "benchmark" a consolesystem (closed sytem) vs a PC system, when are you PC people going to understand that? Not even in the same ballpark.
@VatoLoco47 That's probably because it was considered a "trial" of some sort if I remember correctly. But I can download Driveclub, Bikes, and all the DLC as I bought it about 10 years ago. I have a few delisted PS3 games (digital) that I bought on sale that I can still download to my OG PS3. (A God Of War Collection and a few games like that) So Sony seem to take my digital library serious and that feels good.
For those who wonder, if you own the game and it gets "delisted" just means you can't buy it anymore. Driveclub is delisted and I can download it and play just fine on my PS5. Ofc, they stripped the online part of it, but that's because Polyphony couldn't be bothered to take over the server....
Don't believe I'm going to say this, but I hope this studio doesn't get to remake Bloodborne. I would LOVE a Bloodborne remaster/remake, but not with the Horizon glowup. That would ruin the game 100% for me. BB is meant to be dark, chromatic and nightmarish. Not superglowy like Horizon remaster.
I just contacted PS Support to have them remove my preorder for this remake. I knew from the developers that it would be new stuff in the remake but not a new ending... Now thanks to Push Square I will save my money and buy on a sale. I thought playing it day one would save me from spoilers but this site had to put it in the headline day before release. Big longfinger to you Push Square for this one!!
@Tomato_Goose Yes I thought it was great with 1st PSVR2 patch, but a few months later they released a revamp of the entire PSVR2 ingameengine in a new patch (current version) and it looks so much better imo!!!
Edit: That said, I only played PSVR1 before so I can't compare it to any other VR-headset on the market.
Edit 2: And to answer your question, yes I pretty much only play the game on my PSVR2, have a few hundreds hours in it (since PSVR2 launched). So yes, I assume I think it's good in VR
Imagine how it has been a cutting edge graphics showcase from PS4 to the PS4 Pro /PSVR1-combo over to PS5 -PSVR2-combo and now the PS5 Pro/ PSVR2 combo.
They just improve that engine over and over following Sony's evolution of PS-consoles.
No Man's Sky universe is on another level imho. I love to lose myself into that world for hours at the time.
Bug or not, PSNetwork has been down for over 6 hours here in Sweden. Fix it Sony so I can do my daily races in GT7....You can add ads or whatnot some other day.
@amatmulisha @Eleventy8 Same here. Using my OG PS5 alot! Still completely quiet, unless you put the ear towards the console plate of course, then you hear a soft hum from the fan.
@EddieGallad Yeah, 700$ is nothing compared to swedish price for Pro 10.495 Swedish Crown that equals 1014$. The 30th Anniversary Pro was 14.495 swedish crown ~ 1436$. The pro is exactly double the price that I paid for my OG PS5 on releasedate here in Sweden. Now they upped the price on PS5 slim over the last months and they really increased the slimprice ALOT the day before Pro preorders started. Anything to make that Pro price see more reasonable huh Sony?!
@RiceC03 I guess they just do this to learn/experiment how to push Last Of Us Part III to the limit in the future. Or the other I.P they are working on.
@Titntin Paypal and emails can take a while if their site(s) are overloaded. Don't the store have an "account" page with recent orders you made or somethng like that to check out if order went through?
I'll upgrade just to do the New Game Plus playthrough on native PS5... But soon Sony /Playstation MUST have done everything released after Bloodborne so it can finally be BB's turn to get a remaster/remake?? PrettypleasewithsugarontopSony!
@Chupa_loyzer If it ain't broke, why fix it?? I have never played the Batmangames so I have no idea about that, but Spiderman and Ghost Of Tsushima are 2 different worlds my friend. Or did I miss the spiderweb slinging in GoT? Damn, must replay it.
Edit: You didn't answer my question; Have you played it? Watching a YT video and feel the gameplay is 2 different things indeed.
Day One. I totally understand that they did a spinoff now and holds Ghost Of Tsushima 2 for the PS6 reveal, because from what they said years ago, a sequel to GoT1 would be HUGE in scope. So good call Sucker Punch. Now give us a more precise relesedate, because this got me hyped as heck!!
@Max_the_German "The length and bloat of this game seem to be the real peoblems. People want to fight hordes after 13 hours in the game, not 30 hours."
If it took you 30 hours to fight a hoard, sorry, but if so, you truly sucked at this game. First hoard, minihoard is like 1-2 hours into the game.
Actually, it took me 43 hours to platinum the game, and I didn't spend last 13 hours only killing hordes...
"even if it did launch the acclaimed Astro Bot less than two weeks ago."
90€ that I gladly paided for a great game. But after 15 hours and Platinum'd it, I reflected on the price per hour!! Even D4 was just slighty more expensive and I played that for 1900 hours and counting.... AstroBot might be 1000% better than D4, Assassin's Creed games, GT7 and so on, but I'll never buy a 15 hour game ever again for nearly 100€.
Hell, I downloaded the new PS5native- Path Of Exile client 2 days ago and has nearly 20 hours in it, for free!!!
AstroBot should have been priced as Helldivers 2, but this is GreedySony2024™ we are talking about...
Every move Sony makes lately always feels the same for me as a hardcore PSgamer; they just suck me dry on money with very little return. Bring on 1st party games like in the PS4 era: Driveclub, BLOODBORNE, Uncharted 4, God Of War 2018, Horizon, Killzone, Littlebig Planet (ok that's Astrobot this gen), The Order 1886, Until Dawn and so on and on and on.
Remasters, bah, we bought the PS5 mainly for NEW games, Hermen Hulst, get with the program!!
I still remember Jim Ryan : "We still believe in generations" just before the PS5 was released. That fooled me to buy one...99% so far of this "generation" is remakes,remasters, crossgen-games and an overload of hardware. (And this failed push for liveservicegames!)
But you can count Sony's 1st party PS5 (only!) games on one hand... And now more remasters and the overpriced Pro.
Sony has lost it's way with Playstation this "generation".
@AdamNovice As i wrote, I talked about part 1. Remake, nah, more of a remaster I'd say.
Edit: Last of us Part 1 would cost me 899 swedish krona (right now on PS Store). Thats 66.85£ or 88.31$.
I bought both PS3 day one and PS4 day one and now I need to pay full price again if I want it native on PS5. Never gonna happen. Don't support the greed when Sony don't support their most loyal customers like me.
Edit 2 I could actually upgrade PArt 2 for 105 swedish krona. About 10€... Why not the first?!
It will probably be like Last Of Us Part 1, no upgrade path, just shell out 70€ or more to play it again. Sony has become so so greedy this generation.
@LifeGirl Inflation is one thing, but the wages haven't been raised at the same rate, that is what's making the Pro's price so ridiculousy high. Plus the fact it's a recession going on, at least here in Europe.
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Re: PS5 Consoles, Controllers, and PSVR2 Discounts for Black Friday Seemingly Revealed
"The leaker says the Black Friday promotion will run from 12th November to 12th December"
You mean from the 22nd right?? 16th today and no sale is live....
Re: Play Has No Limits in Sony's Latest Live-Action PS5 Ad
@Bionic-Spencer I see what you did there. 👀😉
Re: 'Mind Boggling' Horizon Forbidden West Has the Best Console Image Quality Ever on PS5 Pro
"you're right. It's not the same. The PS5 Pro will be obsolete in 3-5 years along with it's game library (most likely). My steam account will be good until the day I die....just a fact "
So you ran out out arguments and pulled out your inner PCfanboy? What you just said has nothing to do with the topic we discussed. And no, the Pro, and the OG PS5 for that matter wont be obsolete in that timeframe. My OG PS1 is still going strong and does exactly what it was intended to do and so is my PS2.
And my PS5 gamelibrary will work just fine on the PS6 for sure, so I don't see how you think you can have a point to begin with. ??
I still have access to ALL my games on my PS3 so Sony is actually taking really good care of my games (not to be forgotten: my PS4/PS5 games) But I lost 2 games on Steam since 1996ish... So that's that.
Re: 'Mind Boggling' Horizon Forbidden West Has the Best Console Image Quality Ever on PS5 Pro
No but if you "benchmark" a PS5 / PS5 Pro with a systembench made for PC architecture you get "PC architecture"-results. It says nothing about all the functions in the PS5 chip on a system level.
I worked with this stuff for almost 2 decades, It's not the same in PS5/PC... Just a fact.
Re: 'Mind Boggling' Horizon Forbidden West Has the Best Console Image Quality Ever on PS5 Pro
@8bitOG Yes ofc it is. But you can't compare 2 completely different system architecture with a single benchmark just like that. Sony modded their chips so hard they have no resemblance with their original originparts anymore.
so you sound completely out of touch. Google it. It's all "out there".
Re: 'Mind Boggling' Horizon Forbidden West Has the Best Console Image Quality Ever on PS5 Pro
@8bitOG You can't "benchmark" a consolesystem (closed sytem) vs a PC system, when are you PC people going to understand that? Not even in the same ballpark.
Re: Round Up: PS5 Pro Reviews Love New Tech and Its Glimpse of PS6 Potential
The strongest console on earth gets 7/10. What a time to be alive.
Re: Gaze in Awe at Official PS5 Pro Enhanced Label, Gracing Physical Game Boxes Soon
Sony, put that label on a PS5 Pro version of Bloodborne and I will be a very happy man. 😉✌️
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn PS5 Is an Absolutely Insane Upgrade
Just turned on my PS5 and the PS5 version of Horizon and the Artbook I preordered downloaded and installed itself. I'm ready to replay it in week!!!
Re: PlayStation Going on Tour in Musical Concert Next Year, Music from Sony's Biggest Games
No Bloodborne music? Instafail.
Re: Fans Are Concerned Until Dawn PS4 Could Be Delisted Following PS5 Remake's Release
@VatoLoco47 That's probably because it was considered a "trial" of some sort if I remember correctly. But I can download Driveclub, Bikes, and all the DLC as I bought it about 10 years ago.
I have a few delisted PS3 games (digital) that I bought on sale that I can still download to my OG PS3. (A God Of War Collection and a few games like that) So Sony seem to take my digital library serious and that feels good.
Re: Fans Are Concerned Until Dawn PS4 Could Be Delisted Following PS5 Remake's Release
For those who wonder, if you own the game and it gets "delisted" just means you can't buy it anymore. Driveclub is delisted and I can download it and play just fine on my PS5. Ofc, they stripped the online part of it, but that's because Polyphony couldn't be bothered to take over the server....
Re: Nixxes Dev Refers to Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered as 'First Big PlayStation Content Project'
Don't believe I'm going to say this, but I hope this studio doesn't get to remake Bloodborne. I would LOVE a Bloodborne remaster/remake, but not with the Horizon glowup. That would ruin the game 100% for me. BB is meant to be dark, chromatic and nightmarish. Not superglowy like Horizon remaster.
Re: Until Dawn PS5 Remake's New Ending Leaked, May Hint at Possible Sequel
@DirtSinceBirth I loved it, might been extra fun because I played it with my wife and her girliescreams at every jumpscare made the game 12/10 for me.
Re: Until Dawn PS5 Remake's New Ending Leaked, May Hint at Possible Sequel
I just contacted PS Support to have them remove my preorder for this remake. I knew from the developers that it would be new stuff in the remake but not a new ending...
Now thanks to Push Square I will save my money and buy on a sale. I thought playing it day one would save me from spoilers but this site had to put it in the headline day before release. Big longfinger to you Push Square for this one!!
Re: PS5 Pro 'Absolutely Rocks', According to No Man's Sky Engine Programmer
@Bobtheking If so, you havent set up your gear correctly.
Re: PS5 Pro 'Absolutely Rocks', According to No Man's Sky Engine Programmer
@Tomato_Goose And if you own GT7 you just MUST try that out in PSVR2 too!! Just saying.
Re: PS5 Pro 'Absolutely Rocks', According to No Man's Sky Engine Programmer
@Tomato_Goose If you already own the game on Playstation you have no excuse not to check PSVR2 out for free!! I think you'll love it!
Re: PS5 Pro 'Absolutely Rocks', According to No Man's Sky Engine Programmer
@Tomato_Goose Yes I thought it was great with 1st PSVR2 patch, but a few months later they released a revamp of the entire PSVR2 ingameengine in a new patch (current version) and it looks so much better imo!!!
Edit: That said, I only played PSVR1 before so I can't compare it to any other VR-headset on the market.
Edit 2: And to answer your question, yes I pretty much only play the game on my PSVR2, have a few hundreds hours in it (since PSVR2 launched). So yes, I assume I think it's good in VR
Re: PS5 Pro 'Absolutely Rocks', According to No Man's Sky Engine Programmer
Imagine how it has been a cutting edge graphics showcase from PS4 to the PS4 Pro /PSVR1-combo over to PS5 -PSVR2-combo and now the PS5 Pro/ PSVR2 combo.
They just improve that engine over and over following Sony's evolution of PS-consoles.
No Man's Sky universe is on another level imho. I love to lose myself into that world for hours at the time.
Re: Sony Product Manager Urges PS5 Fans to 'Settle Down' Over Ads
Bug or not, PSNetwork has been down for over 6 hours here in Sweden. Fix it Sony so I can do my daily races in GT7....You can add ads or whatnot some other day.
Re: Poll: Did You Pre-Order a PS5 Pro?
@amatmulisha @Eleventy8 Same here. Using my OG PS5 alot! Still completely quiet, unless you put the ear towards the console plate of course, then you hear a soft hum from the fan.
Re: Poll: Did You Pre-Order a PS5 Pro?
@EddieGallad Yeah, 700$ is nothing compared to swedish price for Pro 10.495 Swedish Crown that equals 1014$.
The 30th Anniversary Pro was 14.495 swedish crown ~ 1436$.
The pro is exactly double the price that I paid for my OG PS5 on releasedate here in Sweden. Now they upped the price on PS5 slim over the last months and they really increased the slimprice ALOT the day before Pro preorders started. Anything to make that Pro price see more reasonable huh Sony?!
Re: The Last of Us Part 1 and 2 Will Both Look and Perform Better than Ever on PS5 Pro
@RiceC03 I guess they just do this to learn/experiment how to push Last Of Us Part III to the limit in the future. Or the other I.P they are working on.
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
@Ravix I follow threads all over europe atm just for fun. "Currently Unavailable" seem to be the current status overall.
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
@AndyKazama I hope you got one too!!
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
@Titntin Hopefully you'll already got one.
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
@Titntin Paypal and emails can take a while if their site(s) are overloaded. Don't the store have an "account" page with recent orders you made or somethng like that to check out if order went through?
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
@Titntin I hope you got one!!
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
Regular Pro sold out in about 5 minutes here in Sweden, Anniversary Bundles / items even faster.
Re: Your Horizon Zero Dawn PS4 Progress Will Transition to PS5 Remaster
I'll upgrade just to do the New Game Plus playthrough on native PS5... But soon Sony /Playstation MUST have done everything released after Bloodborne so it can finally be BB's turn to get a remaster/remake?? PrettypleasewithsugarontopSony!
Re: Ghost of Yotei Is the Ghost of Tsushima Sequel We Needed, Slashing to PS5 in 2025
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Re: Ghost of Yotei Is the Ghost of Tsushima Sequel We Needed, Slashing to PS5 in 2025
@Chupa_loyzer If it ain't broke, why fix it?? I have never played the Batmangames so I have no idea about that, but Spiderman and Ghost Of Tsushima are 2 different worlds my friend. Or did I miss the spiderweb slinging in GoT? Damn, must replay it.
Edit: You didn't answer my question; Have you played it? Watching a YT video and feel the gameplay is 2 different things indeed.
Re: Ghost of Yotei Is the Ghost of Tsushima Sequel We Needed, Slashing to PS5 in 2025
@Chupa_loyzer Did you play the game? The swordfights and combat was really satisfying to be honest.
Re: Ghost of Yotei Is the Ghost of Tsushima Sequel We Needed, Slashing to PS5 in 2025
Day One. I totally understand that they did a spinoff now and holds Ghost Of Tsushima 2 for the PS6 reveal, because from what they said years ago, a sequel to GoT1 would be HUGE in scope.
So good call Sucker Punch. Now give us a more precise relesedate, because this got me hyped as heck!!
Re: Superb Strategy RPG Unicorn Overlord Tops 1 Million Sales
I can't vote in that poll. No *Haven't played it because I never heard off it - option in the poll...
Re: Rumour: PS6 Could Span a Console and Handheld Device
With my luck it's probably a digital PS6 w/o drive and a PS6 "alldigital-streambox".
Would love a PSVita Pro though
Re: Days Gone PS5 Remaster Rumours Start to Snowball
@rusty82 Agree, plus a Motorstorm trilogy remake would be great.
Re: Days Gone PS5 Remaster Rumours Start to Snowball
@Max_the_German "The length and bloat of this game seem to be the real peoblems. People want to fight hordes after 13 hours in the game, not 30 hours."
If it took you 30 hours to fight a hoard, sorry, but if so, you truly sucked at this game. First hoard, minihoard is like 1-2 hours into the game.
Actually, it took me 43 hours to platinum the game, and I didn't spend last 13 hours only killing hordes...
Re: New PS5 Firmware Update Aims to Fix Final Fantasy 16 Issues, Available to Download Now
@Acejas What are you talking about? It replaces old data with the same amount!
Re: The Latest PS5 Firmware Is Available to Download Now, Here Are the Patch Notes
Weird, I just checked about 10 minutes ago before I turned off my PS5, nothing.
Like I had a sixthsense something was about to drop.
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
"even if it did launch the acclaimed Astro Bot less than two weeks ago."
90€ that I gladly paided for a great game. But after 15 hours and Platinum'd it, I reflected on the price per hour!! Even D4 was just slighty more expensive and I played that for 1900 hours and counting.... AstroBot might be 1000% better than D4, Assassin's Creed games, GT7 and so on, but I'll never buy a 15 hour game ever again for nearly 100€.
Hell, I downloaded the new PS5native- Path Of Exile client 2 days ago and has nearly 20 hours in it, for free!!!
AstroBot should have been priced as Helldivers 2, but this is GreedySony2024™ we are talking about...
Every move Sony makes lately always feels the same for me as a hardcore PSgamer; they just suck me dry on money with very little return. Bring on 1st party games like in the PS4 era: Driveclub, BLOODBORNE, Uncharted 4, God Of War 2018, Horizon, Killzone, Littlebig Planet (ok that's Astrobot this gen), The Order 1886, Until Dawn and so on and on and on.
Remasters, bah, we bought the PS5 mainly for NEW games, Hermen Hulst, get with the program!!
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
Yes more hardware!! Who need 1st partygames?! /s
Re: Sony Priming 'Even Less Exciting' PS5 Remaster for State of Play
@Buckster Last Of Us: The Remake Of The Remastered Remaster Part 1.
Re: Sony Priming 'Even Less Exciting' PS5 Remaster for State of Play
I still remember Jim Ryan : "We still believe in generations" just before the PS5 was released. That fooled me to buy one...99% so far of this "generation" is remakes,remasters, crossgen-games and an overload of hardware. (And this failed push for liveservicegames!)
But you can count Sony's 1st party PS5 (only!) games on one hand... And now more remasters and the overpriced Pro.
Sony has lost it's way with Playstation this "generation".
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn's PS5, PC Remaster Is Very Much the Real Deal
@AdamNovice As i wrote, I talked about part 1. Remake, nah, more of a remaster I'd say.
Edit: Last of us Part 1 would cost me 899 swedish krona (right now on PS Store). Thats 66.85£ or 88.31$.
I bought both PS3 day one and PS4 day one and now I need to pay full price again if I want it native on PS5. Never gonna happen. Don't support the greed when Sony don't support their most loyal customers like me.
Edit 2 I could actually upgrade PArt 2 for 105 swedish krona. About 10€... Why not the first?!
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn's PS5, PC Remaster Is Very Much the Real Deal
It will probably be like Last Of Us Part 1, no upgrade path, just shell out 70€ or more to play it again. Sony has become so so greedy this generation.
Re: PS6 Is Already Deep in Development, Backwards Compatibility of High Importance
@LifeGirl Inflation is one thing, but the wages haven't been raised at the same rate, that is what's making the Pro's price so ridiculousy high. Plus the fact it's a recession going on, at least here in Europe.
Re: State of Play Rumoured for This Month As Sony Looks Set to Skip PS Showcase in 2024
24th seems right considering Pro preorders starts 26th.
Re: Feature: Everything You Can Do in PS5's New Welcome Hub
Just installed the update but no Welcome Hub on my PS5.
Edit. Ah, just read comments above, guess it comes in the near future.