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@stvevan I know it is just something that has been in the works for a while now should have launched with a way of showing on your console.

The amount of people angry at the use of the word scheme and demanding it be changed or an explanation despite getting told a good reason for the use of the word and it not meaning anything negative is amusing. If you are given an explanation about the word and still refuse to accept it then that is on you.

On to the actual PS stars well it all seems a bit disjointed and if the only way to earn coins is by buying certain games digitally then it seems more like a way of boosting sales for games many wouldn't otherwise buy. If it was like the Nintendo system where you got coins based on anything you buy digitally I'd get it but not only a specific collection of games. Also for the amount of time they have been developing and planning it you would have thought there would be an way of tracking it on your console.

Still to this point laughing when everyone had a meltdown that these two weren't announced on every other system during the Xbox Showcase earlier this year. I'll probably pick them up next year some time though as by then I'll probably have a backlog to get through.

It a sad state of how people all over the world think it is justified to go online and say these things just because their feelings get hurt over a game or anything in popular culture. Many people feel they see owed that right simply for liking something and can't see right from wrong in that situation.

"Games" like this are just feeding into people's addictions now. When I see people bragging they have thousands of platinum trophies that they basically just spent loads on quick 5 minute games then I don't see that as an achievement but how much time and disposable cash they have. It used to be some what of a challenge I the early days of trophies and achievements in games where something like a platinum trophy meant you put time and effort in now those get burried under a mountain of shovelware.

It used to be getting platinum trophies for the most part meant something. Even if the games were relatively easy they used to have a 20 or 30 hour single player campaign to get through. Now getting more platinum trophies than others is more down to having a lot of money to be able to buy all of these cheap games and there are people who only play games like these and never anything of any kind of substance or challenge. Personally I think Sony needs to change its criteria for what is allowed to have a platinum trophy attached to it. It is also causing a huge addiction for some trying to climb leader boards simply by paying for all these games.

@Fight_Teza_Fight so because he doesn't have opinions you like he deserves his account hacked? Over wrestling too? I think you need to get some perspective if you think you not liking what someone says makes it ok to hack their account to try and scam people.

In all honesty I don't see why many people will be that interested in the games. Yes they have a great place in history and I played many in the early 80s but many have aged horribly or were just bad at the time like the majority of the Jaguar library. I can very much expect all but the most dedicated of Atari fans to play most games for five minutes and never go back to them. For me the documentary aspect is the only interesting thing about it.

@Robocod take note by waiting two years after the release to update a game everyone has long given up on? What notes are they exactly?

First time I played this was on the PS3 and as a result I get it as a download now which is at least a good thing. Will probably get around to playing it again soon.

It's fine as no matter what they do people will find something to complain about.

Wasn't expected otherwise as I knew how PS Now worked and even Gamepass is the same. I will admit trying to sort through my library of games can be confusing though as some games you claim with the monthly games don't appear under the PS Plus games but your regular library. They have needed to organise that better for years.

I platinumed SW3 last week and in all honesty if it wasn't on PS Now and now this I probably wouldn't have considered getting it as it's a bit glitchy and it is very linear and doesn't have much replay value beyond one or two playthroughs.

While I was already subscribed to PS Now before the biggest thing for me was a refresh of some of the games that were sitting there that no one played and added new ones. What i am baffled by is how many PS3 games were dropped from the old service including a load of Sony published titles probably just so they can add them back at a later date for those who had never used the service before so weren't aware they were taken away before being added back. Although the Ubisoft stuff is welcomed too as hopefully all of the Assassin's Creed and Far Cry games get added in time.

Was scrolling down thinking it wasn't much of a difference and then got to the premium list and seen how much more screwed we were getting especially with all of those Resident Evil games.

Been checking out the lists and even the list for all games doesn't seem to show everything. yesterday the first Infamous games wasn't showing anywhere but now is and I have at least spotted the the Batman return to Arkham games don't show on the complete list but do under the classics one. So the organisation really needs to be sorted out.

@Robocod those two games are the original arcade versions and not the ports to the master system

I was all for this until I heard the strictly limited release was containing games and variations of them not in the standard version. Was always a big fan of wonder boy games but don't plan on buying a stupidly expensive version for that privilege. If it mainly contained physical extras I wouldn't have a problem but this locks out one if the best games in the series in The Dragon's Trap which make the standard edition pointless to me.

@Wolfie_Pie some games don't seem to appear under their categories but if you go to browse you should see the whole combined list and its there.

Only thing that has annoyed me is the amount of PS3 games that have suddenly been dropped from streaming many of which are Sony published games like Killzone and Sly Cooper as well as many of the Sega and Konami games but they probably tried to negotiate a better deal. Saying that the PS Now list was stagnant for some time and there have been a lot of PS4 games added to make up for the losses. I'm covered until the end of November so I'll see how things go with adding new games until then but there is plenty of new stuff to keep me going until then.

I used to play this around my friends house and it was a blast although they were pretty bad at it and I ended up unlocking all of the fighters in the end for them. Pretty sure they only had me around because I was better at games than them and I could unlock stuff they couldn't now I think about it.

@Neverwild what wrong thing? I stated that people over reacted because the assumed that these games weren't coming to PlayStation because it was announced during the Xbox Showcase and wasn't instantly announced for PlayStation along side it. Nothing I have said is false information and you are over reacting to that. Thinking I am saying something I'm not.

@Neverwild it doesn't matter if people were expecting it my facts about people over reacting are straight why are you taking offence to it? Nothing I said was factual incorrect people assumed the worsts because they weren't told right away. So not sure why you have an issue with what I said.

All the people yesterday who were acting angry because these two games weren't announced for the PS5 yesterday during the Xbox Showcase. Why would they announce it then? When I seen some people acting like they were personally betrayed and Atlus had abandoned Sony. Some people need to get a grip and not jump to conclusions.

@Akurusu it comes down to the mindset that some people feel they have to defend their purchase so much they get angry when people say anything bad about it or when they don't get the games they want. It's worse when you consider many of these people are adults that act this way. Gaming has developed into tribalism for some people and it makes them get irrationally angry at the silliest of things.

While I think it's good to have subscription services as a way to play a wide variety of games I don't think it should be a service used to only expect all the latest releases from all publishers. There seems to be a growing number of people that seem entitled to have every game as part of these services so they never have to pay full price for new games ever. The Xbox showcase today didn't exactly scream must subscribe to me but for others it might have done. I personally don't care if a game comes out day one as I don't always have the time to invest in every big release right away anyway and have used both PS Now and gamepasss as ways to play games I usually wouldn't play or buy myself. Relying solely on them though I could never do and think Sony is wise not to put all their games on day one.

Some people are acting like this is the end of the world because two games were announced on Xbox and have yet to be announced on PlayStation. Very high chance the games will come out at some point weather its these versions of even possibly the PS2 versions. They were hardly going to announce if other systems were getting the games during an Xbox showcase were they.

This is going to be one of those games that sells because it will be an easy platinum as I can't see anyone actually buying it for any other reason. It barely based as an interactive CD back in the day calling it a game is generous.

I would imagine it's down to simply how popular jrpgs are there and not having a solid selection would be blasphemous not to have some like these. While it would be nice for those of us who like these kinds of games it may not happen in the early days because many are still considered niche in the west.

I don't really watch these kinds of things anymore. Just mainly read the news later back when E3 first really started streaming everything and it was all the big announcements I used to. It also felt like a bigger deal now game and hardware announcements get made all throughout the year so this time of year when E3 would be no longer has the impact. I think getting older has made me less interested in watching all these different announcement videos under the hope I'll see a game I was hoping for.

It still for me feels like a beta version of the game since it has so little content and focuses too much on a mode that doesn't interest me. It's the one game Konami now actually still develops and they are dragging it's development period out over years rather than having a base game then updating it and adding to it as they go. They have been trying to copy Fifa ultimate team mode too much rather than staying with what made the series enjoyable to begin with.

Is Amber unlockable?

The game really was released years too early. If there hadn't be pressure to release it by a certain date it would never have released in what was essentially an alpha build of the game. I still have a copy of the original disc because they were going for dirt cheap about a year after it launched. It's one of the few active games that has went back up in price for used copies.

One day there will be just one games publisher and one cloud system to play it all on the rate these things are going.

While they aren't essential it can still add a bit of fun to a game. I get there are people that only play games for easy trophies and as a result don't really play any games of much substance as they are simply spending money on cheap easy games to brag about it to others and spend every waking moment doing it.

As someone who has a reasonable amount of trophies compared to many people I know usually I will only go for most or all trophies if I have fun with the game in the first place if it is a broken mess but is considered an easy platinum I will skip it because that level of frustration isn't worth some digital trophy.

I will definitely replay some games too because of it as I am sure certain trophies will have me doing things in those games I never did all of those years ago so they can also help people rediscover older games.

@Royalblues releasing another model when there will still be the same semiconductor shortage won't make them more readily available if anything it will just split manufacturing between the two and make the standard PS5 even harder to get. A less powerful model would still share many of the same parts as the full model so that wouldn't really solve the issue.

The problem is many games are still aiming to be running on both the PS4 and Xbox One due to them still being used more than the newer generation hardware. Not really a fault with the developers and publishers doing this as this newer generation is off to a much slower start for many to risk making games exclusively targeting that hardware.

Still baffled why people are never happy with a service like this. People seem to want every game ever made from every PlayStation day one and day one releases too. It's not quite as simple as that. I think with the Ubisoft games and the older games there will just be more overall choice for everyone. If you only like specific games only chances are a service like this will rarely have what you want as you probably already own it.

Would now be interesting to see if they add their PS3 games to streaming part too. People will still complain that every game ever is not included though.

Only ever briefly played a friends copy back when it came out but hopefully these games do come out on the service as many PAL copys tend to fetch a high price as do many jrpgs from that time since they only had limited releases.

While I get some people are against the 50hz versions of older games being on services like this when it comes to many different languages the PAL versions are usually the only ones that offered that option so surely there should be an option for both and not exclude the non-English speakers from understanding certain games because the North American versions tended to rarely have option to change language. So an option to switch between regions would be perfect.

I also love the idea of official Trophy support for these games as there is something about being able to go back and play these games and having a new incentive.

I am really curious as to what PS1, PS2 and PSP games will be added and if any of then will have any added trophy support like the small handful of PS2 games that were released on the PS4 before Sony just gave up on that. Also will be interesting to see if they add any more PS3 games to the existing ones on PS Now as they stopped doing that long ago too. I have a subscription already through until the end of November so will be nice to have the benefits of PS Plus thrown in on top as well as the new extras to try it all out. It really depends on how much they put into the older side of the games and if they don't give up after a year or two like they have with Now.

@KnightRider1982 In all honesty I still use my PS3 from time to time as there are still plenty of games that I missed out on around that time that probably won't ever get a release on any hardware or streaming service going forward because of either licencing issues or the publishers no longer being around. There are also a lot of people who are still earning trophies on a lot of those games so it is popular for that reason too.

On the subject of used and refurbished I am always slightly against refurbished unless you know the person or place you are buying it from and that they have a good track record of fixing things. since once a console has broken down once there is always a chance that the original under lying problem is still there.

Will she cry at the simplest of problems and then go home halfway through a game?

Really hope the rumours of this new service launching soon are true as there seems to be more games leaving than being added now. Really surprised they haven't got the majority of first party published games from the PS3 on there let alone most of the PS4 ones. It's like they don't want people using the service.

I have a digit on my hand for them.

The new games aren't even showing for me yet.

At a minimum the need to merge the two services. They already have the infrastructure to add more PS3 games for streaming so even without native support the streaming overall is pretty solid now. Emulation for PS1, PS2 and even PSP even natively on PS4 won't be an issue and even if they were to just start with all of their own published games I can't see how it would be a bad selling point since many of those games people many have never played.

They are delaying it long enough to take Duke Nukem Forever's crown. Hail to the new king baby.

Just finished platinuming FF8 and forgot how good some of the enemy designs were in that game. Although 9 is by far my favourite set of designs. It does show you the leap of early PS1 games when most devs had never really done a 3D game to the later ones were everyone started to get to grips with it all.

It's not like it is worth their time or money keeping it anyway so it's naturally going to expire over time.