"Live in your world, play in ours" was a pretty kickass slogan, particularly with the way it incorporated the face button symbols. I used to love seeing it in commercials for PS2 games.
Frankly, it's still mind-boggling to me that Sony went ahead with the live service push, years after it was established that only few will ever find success, the rest ending up in the garbage bin after just a year or two.
In any case, this is why Jim Ryan needs to get gone already. The damage he's done to this brand is immeasurable.
Well, in light of this news, I'd just like to thank Jim Ryan for making me lose every last ounce of faith I had in a brand I've loved for over 20 years.
Hardly doubt anyone who's been following Sony's trajectory the last few years could be surprised by this. We're just going to have to get used not being Sony's favorite anymore, and waiting that much longer for games as they continue to divert their resources away from PS5. I mean, I hardly doubt it's a coincidence that it's been ages since they've announced ANYTHING new for this damn console.
@truerbluer Hermen's narrative has shifted drastically every single year since they started doing this in 2020. I'm fully expecting this to be the year where he says all first-party games will come to PC day and date.
Sony's strategy is absolutely destined for failure. We've known from the beginning that they're trying to rush a whole bunch of stuff out the door to see what ends up attracting people, and they'll happily demolish anything that doesn't.
That said, I still expect Ryan to full steam ahead anyway, out-of-touch numbskull that he is.
I’ve said before that Sony only sees its existing fanbase within PlayStation as easy marks who can be nickeled and dimed to no end while they sweeten the deal for the PC folks that they’re trying to entice.
It's kinda funny how you'd be cynical towards Platinum for continuing to chase live services and not towards Sony when they're doing the same, exact same stupid thing.
After all, they've already got one failure under their belt in Destruction All-Stars. And there'll probably be plenty more to follow.
So basically, once again, Sony's narrative on PC has changed in 2022 from what it was in 2021, which itself had changed from what it was in 2020, which had changed from what it was in 2019 (before they had decided to start courting PC gamers). Where last year, Hulst assured us that PlayStation would always receive the best version of Sony's games at launch, now he's admitting that actually won't be the case after all. That there WILL be day-and-date PC releases, as I've been continuously saying was all but inevitable, and that we PS owners will be getting the short end of the stick on top of paying extra for Sony's online paywall. And am I really expected to believe that this narrative isn't just going to change again, after it's already changed so radically so quickly? For crying out loud, we started this whole thing with Hulst stating that Horizon Zero Dawn just seemed like a perfect fit for PC. THAT WAS IT!!!!!! That's what got this whole ball rolling!!!! And look at where we are now! Just look how at how much escalation there's been in just two short years, because Sony took the complacency of those saying "just a few games, years down the line" as a green light to continue chasing the PC market with more and more desperation, practically forgetting that we (the PS community) exist in the process!
Well, in any case, let's all tune in next year, when Hulst admits that some (or hell, maybe even all) single-player games will be releasing on PC day-and-date as well!
Eh, good luck with that. I still feel like E3 2019 (featuring "Breathtaking" Keanu and Internet waifu Ikumi Nakamura) ought to be considered the event's swan song.
Gotta say, I honestly thought Sony would be focusing more on porting PS4 games over, but looks like interests have shifted and they're now fully committed to ensuring the PS5 does not build up an exclusive library of its own (not that Sackboy was PS5 exclusive, but it was nevertheless touted as a high-profile game for it)
That just tells me that the window is just gonna keep shrinking until it eventually becomes non-existent.
I’m not seeing why Jim Ryan thinks MS owes him something. I mean, yeah, Sony is giving them MLB: The Show now, but they were apparently forced into that. And I guess they’ll also get future Bungie games too, but those will still be few and far between, unlike CoD. Even still, absolutely none of this obligates MS to keep CoD on PlayStation.
How very fitting that this would happen in a year in which Sony hasn’t announced A SINGLE first-party PS5 game outside of The Last of Us Re-remastered.
Keep in mind, of course, that ol' Jimbo has been saying lately that he's taking PlayStation "multiplatform." After all, Bungie isn't going to be making PS exclusive games despite their Sony ownership. So the idea of having PS games on rival services isn't too farfetched at this point. All the while, of course, Sony tells us that Gamepass isn't sustainable and we existing PS users are stuck paying full price for MLB: The Show, among what could be other things...
So maybe this wasn't so much a case of Sony negotiating a bad deal as it was Sony being more blatant in their waning interest towards the existing PS userbase.
I’ll keep on saying it: As Sony brings PS5 exclusives to PC (which, lo and behold, is happening way sooner than the “years down the line” folks said it would), never forget that they forced you into using a DualSense for these games on PS5 because, so they claimed, you wouldn’t be getting the full experience without it. And yet this is a restriction that PC players inevitably won’t have.
@Vix Pretty much. Remember last year how Elden Ring and Horizon Forbidden West, coupled with BOTW 2, God of War Ragnarok, and Starfield were going to make 2022 the best year for gaming ever?
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Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - PlayStation Console Special
7/10
"Live in your world, play in ours" was a pretty kickass slogan, particularly with the way it incorporated the face button symbols. I used to love seeing it in commercials for PS2 games.
Re: Sony Says the Best Time to Get a PS5 Is Now
Cringey ad, but I actually did just pick up a PS5 slim during that $50 off sale earlier this month.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 28
3/10. One of my worst.
Re: Analysts Anticipate a Tougher Year for Live Service As Sony Aims to Infiltrate Sector
Oh, gee, who could've predicted this? Certainly not Jimbo, hyuck!!!
Re: PlayStation's Push for Live Service Games Hasn't Been Going Smoothly
Frankly, it's still mind-boggling to me that Sony went ahead with the live service push, years after it was established that only few will ever find success, the rest ending up in the garbage bin after just a year or two.
In any case, this is why Jim Ryan needs to get gone already. The damage he's done to this brand is immeasurable.
Re: Jim Ryan Retires as PlayStation Boss in March 2024
Well, in light of this news, I'd just like to thank Jim Ryan for making me lose every last ounce of faith I had in a brand I've loved for over 20 years.
Good riddance.
Re: Naughty Dog Co-President Evan Wells Announces His Retirement
Damn. I'm pretty sure he was the only one left who'd been with ND since the Crash Bandicoot days.
Re: Flagship First-Party Naughty Dog Will Develop for PS5 and PC Moving Forwards
Hardly doubt anyone who's been following Sony's trajectory the last few years could be surprised by this. We're just going to have to get used not being Sony's favorite anymore, and waiting that much longer for games as they continue to divert their resources away from PS5. I mean, I hardly doubt it's a coincidence that it's been ages since they've announced ANYTHING new for this damn console.
@truerbluer Hermen's narrative has shifted drastically every single year since they started doing this in 2020. I'm fully expecting this to be the year where he says all first-party games will come to PC day and date.
Re: Talking Point: Should Sony Be Worried by Live Service Implosion?
Sony's strategy is absolutely destined for failure. We've known from the beginning that they're trying to rush a whole bunch of stuff out the door to see what ends up attracting people, and they'll happily demolish anything that doesn't.
That said, I still expect Ryan to full steam ahead anyway, out-of-touch numbskull that he is.
Re: The Last of Us: Part I on PC Costs $20 Less Than PS5 Version
I’ve said before that Sony only sees its existing fanbase within PlayStation as easy marks who can be nickeled and dimed to no end while they sweeten the deal for the PC folks that they’re trying to entice.
It’s only becoming more true with time.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 22
7/15. Choked hard.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Could Be the Next PS5, PS4 Exclusive Ported to PC
Push Square....and Space Bar.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 21
9/15. One of my worst.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - God of War Special
12/15. Missed the Soul Caliber, mobile, and original title questions.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 20
12/15. Was totally smoking it until those last few questions. Ugh!
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales Crawls onto PC in November
Push Space Bar
Re: Colossal Flop Babylon's Fall Hasn't Changed Platinum's Plans for More Live Service Games
It's kinda funny how you'd be cynical towards Platinum for continuing to chase live services and not towards Sony when they're doing the same, exact same stupid thing.
After all, they've already got one failure under their belt in Destruction All-Stars. And there'll probably be plenty more to follow.
Re: PlayStation Bigwigs Won't Shut Up About PC, Smartphones
"Just a few games, years down the line."
Re: PS5 Exclusives Will Take at Least One Year to Launch on PC
So basically, once again, Sony's narrative on PC has changed in 2022 from what it was in 2021, which itself had changed from what it was in 2020, which had changed from what it was in 2019 (before they had decided to start courting PC gamers). Where last year, Hulst assured us that PlayStation would always receive the best version of Sony's games at launch, now he's admitting that actually won't be the case after all. That there WILL be day-and-date PC releases, as I've been continuously saying was all but inevitable, and that we PS owners will be getting the short end of the stick on top of paying extra for Sony's online paywall. And am I really expected to believe that this narrative isn't just going to change again, after it's already changed so radically so quickly? For crying out loud, we started this whole thing with Hulst stating that Horizon Zero Dawn just seemed like a perfect fit for PC. THAT WAS IT!!!!!! That's what got this whole ball rolling!!!! And look at where we are now! Just look how at how much escalation there's been in just two short years, because Sony took the complacency of those saying "just a few games, years down the line" as a green light to continue chasing the PC market with more and more desperation, practically forgetting that we (the PS community) exist in the process!
Well, in any case, let's all tune in next year, when Hulst admits that some (or hell, maybe even all) single-player games will be releasing on PC day-and-date as well!
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 19
11/15 again. Still no perfect score.
Re: Talking Point: We Need to Discuss This Horizon Zero Dawn PS5 Remaster
Sammy moves ever closer to admitting that Jim Ryan is a terrible leader for PlayStation…
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster for PS5 Reportedly in Development
Maybe one day this generation, Sony will get around to making some new software for the PS5. Who knows?
Re: Beleaguered Pirate Game Skull & Bones Has Been Delayed Yet Again
General reminder that this game was announced in 2017.
Re: E3 2023 Will Try to Re-Establish 'the Traditional E3 Week' Next June
Eh, good luck with that. I still feel like E3 2019 (featuring "Breathtaking" Keanu and Internet waifu Ikumi Nakamura) ought to be considered the event's swan song.
Re: Sackboy: A Big Adventure's PC Port More or Less Confirmed
Gotta say, I honestly thought Sony would be focusing more on porting PS4 games over, but looks like interests have shifted and they're now fully committed to ensuring the PS5 does not build up an exclusive library of its own (not that Sackboy was PS5 exclusive, but it was nevertheless touted as a high-profile game for it)
That just tells me that the window is just gonna keep shrinking until it eventually becomes non-existent.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 18
10/15. What the literal hell is that second question, though?!
Re: PS Stars' Digital Collectibles Can Be Displayed on Your PSN Profile
Wow, Sony remembered that Toro exists!
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Make of Microsoft and Sony's Call of Duty Quarrel?
I’m not seeing why Jim Ryan thinks MS owes him something. I mean, yeah, Sony is giving them MLB: The Show now, but they were apparently forced into that. And I guess they’ll also get future Bungie games too, but those will still be few and far between, unlike CoD. Even still, absolutely none of this obligates MS to keep CoD on PlayStation.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 17
12/15. Would have been 13 but I choked on that New Vegas question. Ugh!
Re: Sony: Efforts Beyond PS5, PS4 Do Not Diminish Our Passion for Amazing Single Player Games
How very fitting that this would happen in a year in which Sony hasn’t announced A SINGLE first-party PS5 game outside of The Last of Us Re-remastered.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 16
9/15. You guys had better keep on doing these until I get a perfect score, damn it!
Re: Sony's Death Stranding Special Delivered to PC Game Pass on 23rd August
Keep in mind, of course, that ol' Jimbo has been saying lately that he's taking PlayStation "multiplatform." After all, Bungie isn't going to be making PS exclusive games despite their Sony ownership. So the idea of having PS games on rival services isn't too farfetched at this point. All the while, of course, Sony tells us that Gamepass isn't sustainable and we existing PS users are stuck paying full price for MLB: The Show, among what could be other things...
So maybe this wasn't so much a case of Sony negotiating a bad deal as it was Sony being more blatant in their waning interest towards the existing PS userbase.
Re: Sony Expands PlayStation Homepage for PC Games
Day and date, here we come...
Re: Shuhei Yoshida Talks Gravity Rush, Puppeteer, Siren in Insightful Interview
This man deserves to be the head of PlayStation way more than Jim Ryan.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 15
10/15.
The Gambit system was a great battle system. Fight me.
Re: Immediate Backlash as Sony Asks Players About Purchasing NFTs
This is exactly the sort of out-of-touch crap I'd expect from Jim "Why Would Anyone Play This" Ryan.
Re: The Last of Us Remake Is Coming to PC 'Very Soon' After PS5 Launch
Almost feels like this just should’ve been made for PC to begin with. Who needs a PS5?
Re: Returnal's Steam Page Getting Regular Updates, Reveal Seems Imminent
I’ll keep on saying it: As Sony brings PS5 exclusives to PC (which, lo and behold, is happening way sooner than the “years down the line” folks said it would), never forget that they forced you into using a DualSense for these games on PS5 because, so they claimed, you wouldn’t be getting the full experience without it. And yet this is a restriction that PC players inevitably won’t have.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 14
13/15. Just missed the Tekken 7 and Sonic questions.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 13
7/15. One of my worst.
Re: Horizon Netflix Show Will be Called Horizon 2074, Crew Includes Talent From The Boys, The Expanse
Wait, 2074 as the year that civilization fell? That's ten years later than it is in the game's lore, which is 2064-2065.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 12
9/15
And I knew Captain Basch fon Ronsenburg!!!!
Re: Sony Skipping Gamescom Opening Night Live, No First-Party Reveals
I don’t think Jim Ryan really cares if we have anything to look forward to or not.
Re: The PS5, PS4 Release Schedule in 2023 Is Officially Ridiculous
@Vix Pretty much. Remember last year how Elden Ring and Horizon Forbidden West, coupled with BOTW 2, God of War Ragnarok, and Starfield were going to make 2022 the best year for gaming ever?
lol
Re: Random: PS Store Bug Sets Tekken 2 Price at $9,999
If on the off chance someone did buy it at that price, would Sony be legally obligated to refund them?
Re: PSN Licence Issues are Stopping People from Playing Games on PS5, PS4
Digital is the future!!!
And what a terrible future it is...
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 11
11/15. My most common score, once again.
Props to the Simpsons: Hit and Run question. Loved that game.
Re: Sony Leaks The Last of Us: Part I for PS5, Launching 2nd September
@get2sammyb
“Later” in this case likely means less than six months. They probably wouldn’t be announcing this for PC right now otherwise.
Day-and-date on PC is coming soon. This is just yet another stepping stone towards it.
Re: Sony Bend Hints at New IP During Its Logo Unveiling
I'd kill for them to make a new Syphon Filter. I'd even settle for a remake of the original trilogy.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered Swings Onto PC This August
@thefourfoldroot1 Why not? We're just as important to Sony as their PC customers. Maybe even less so...