It may well be though lack of general choice, and I'm aware that the price is steep, but I'm actually really looking forward to this game. Shooting, psychological gubbins, eldritch style horrors... I'm sold.
I wish the game well, but I'd be hard pressed to think of something that ticks so many boxes in terms of mediocrity. Even having free access via Games Pass, I'm still not bothered about playing it.
The amount of fuss people are making over this is ridiculous.
It's like the whole thing about people still being confused about which version of a game they'll be installing. There's button, RIGHT NEXT TO PLAY, that when you click it tells you which version you're going to be using. Is it as streamlined as Smart Delivery? No. Is it this impenetrable, dense, convoluted process that would challenge the average person? Apparently so.
I mean, we play games, right? We've been doing it for a while and having fun etc. Do we really need this much hand holding?
I suppose it's like George Carlin said... think of how stupid the average person is, and then realise that half of them are even more stupider than that.
@LordSteev I'm not sure. It's a solid roguelike, with a good narrative that explains and justifies the repeated changes on the decks.
So take any of your above standard roguelike's like Binding of Isaac, Hades etc, and the principles are similar.
This is slightly different though due to the FPS perspective, and survival horror elements. It's also a superb experience in both VR and on the normal telly.
Truth is I'm a sucker for roguelike games, and horror, so this was a sure thing for me. Pretty sure there's a demo on the store if you're keen though.
Happy days. I bought this just before Xmas and was pleasantly surprised with it. Better yet, there was an issue with the trophies not loading, and the team were happy and responsive in dealing with me (they eventually patched it) to resolve it.
Good people. Good game. Looking forward to shiny free upgrade. Win.
@Perryg92 I was gonna ask this... so if I want to play NMS in VR on PS5, I've got to d/l the PS4 version and play it via BC? I can't actually play the PS5 version in VR, right?
Tbh I feel pretty bad for the people working this. They aren't the ones that decided the game get published when it did, and I'm presuming they're being worked pretty bloody hard now, right over the holiday period no less.
I guess there are some who are passionate and willing to do it, but then I'm also guessing there are others who have families waiting for them. It just seems like a raw deal is all.
I put a few hours in earlier on PS5 and decided to park it. I'm gonna finish Valhalla and come back to it. When I (accidentally) ran over a guy who was floating in the middle of the road, I realised it needs just a smidge more polish...
Aw man, my voice hasn't been recorded for some reason. That's a shame. I'm pretty confident that I screamed and swore profusely on a couple of my wins 😅
It's staggering the amount of support they've given this game, and the majority of it for free as well. It's literally lasted longer than a whole generation. Bravo, I say.
As someone who deals with complaints for a living, the £150 D&I (distress and inconvenience) is pretty high for a "level of service" complaint. I would be 99% sure that this is more than likely due to you being high profile i.e. a reporter for Push Square etc.
The problem now is that they've set a precedent that everyone else will expect.
Overall, the outcome is pretty dire, so I'm really, really sorry to hear you got shafted, Ant. I'd be inclined to have something formal from them though, and also find out who they're regulated by in terms of their complaint handling.
If you're unhappy with their "final position" regarding the raised concerns, you are 100% within your rights to escalate it to their regulator. If they then review your concerns and feel Amazon haven't dealt with you fairly, they will have the authority to overturn Amazons decision.
@Caliburn08 there just seems to be a huge lack of imagination at the company when it comes to their key franchises... they all adopt a similar if not identical template, and rarely deviate from it. As a result their games often feel like a chore as opposed to fun.
I did really enjoy Watch Dogs 2 to be fair, after the sea of mediocrity that was the first. Still, the low reviews here make me a little disappointed.
@Omnistalgic you're not alone. I bought the ridiculous Collectors Edition for Eternal, and the whole buy-out has just left a bad taste in my mouth. I went from being hugely excited for the DLC to complete ambivalence. I mean, it's hard to get excited about the franchise now knowing that I may never get to play the inevitable sequel unless I buy an Xbox.
@Futureshark seconded. I tend to lose interest with open world games after about 40%-50%, but this was one of the few titles that not only kept me engaged from start to finish, but actually saddened me when I realised I was nearing the end.
I'm gonna save my NG+ playthrough for PS5 though. Absolutely looking forward to diving back in.
I still don't really see the point of Game Pass. Maybe it's all psychological and I'm a bit broken. I've got a 12 month Ultimate subscription, so all those games are there. But considering I can dip and dive into any of them, I feel rarely inclined to bother. It almost feels like having them as free commodities cheapens their worth.
I recently bought Origami King, TLOU2 and Ghost of Tsushima, and considering I paid full price I felt way more inclined to finish them. Which I did. Meanwhile there's a lot of stuff on my X that has only been grazed over, as I've been fickle and just tried multiple titles. Maybe it's just me <shrugs>.
@severeatrophy they're just getting battered. I completed my.purchase using a guest login, I'll just amend it through customer service at later date to tie it to my account.
@nookie_egg @OMG_Waffles I just couldn't do with the pant-sh*thing VR experience of playing a heightened terror simulator after a day in work. I think this was the day where I had to acknowledge I'm getting old.
@ArcadeHeroes yeah, I concur here. Value is completely subjective. And I completely agree about the bloated open world collectathons. I haven't finished an Assassins Creed game in years. It's exhausting, as opposed to fun.
Less is more, sometimes. I guess it is very much, as you say, a case of each to their own ✌
@ArcadeHeroes I'm not disagreeing with your sentiments, but I think what @nessisonett is saying is that it's a bit hard to stomach paying £50+ for a game you could finish in a handful of hours. I say this because I share that view. It's one thing to say judge a game by its quality, but surely value forms part of that as well.
I've got no beef playing shorter games; I'm a huge fan of indies. But their price tag is usually appropriate whereas I'm not sure RE3's is.
@Bentleyma- nope, just a preorder. I put one in with Amazon, got my code, then cancelled the preorder. I've done it with Anthem and a few other games. Get involved, son!
Playing the beta now. Much more fun than I anticipated considering the amount of moaning making the rounds. I'm happy to give it the time of day now; may even consider a purchase at some point.
@Westernwolf4 yeah, I remember loving it at the time and haven't been back to it since... its probably not aged well but I respected them massively for what they were trying to do with it. Good to find a chap after my own heart
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Re: Returnal Trophy List Spawns Another Easy Platinum from Sony
It may well be though lack of general choice, and I'm aware that the price is steep, but I'm actually really looking forward to this game. Shooting, psychological gubbins, eldritch style horrors... I'm sold.
Re: WWE 2K22 Hits Different on PlayStation This Year
@playstation1995 your forgot Hacksaw Jim Duggan and Bushwacker Bros 👌
Re: Cutesy Robot Strategy Sim The Colonists Builds a Home on PS4 on 4th May
@MightyDemon82 the appreciation is reciprocal. And she sounds like a keeper!
Re: Cutesy Robot Strategy Sim The Colonists Builds a Home on PS4 on 4th May
Roof-E? Careful there, chaps 😅
Re: Outriders Will Brand Cheaters with an In-Game Watermark
I wish the game well, but I'd be hard pressed to think of something that ticks so many boxes in terms of mediocrity. Even having free access via Games Pass, I'm still not bothered about playing it.
Re: Marvel's Avengers Is the Straw That Broke the Camel's Back with PS4 to PS5 Upgrades
The amount of fuss people are making over this is ridiculous.
It's like the whole thing about people still being confused about which version of a game they'll be installing. There's button, RIGHT NEXT TO PLAY, that when you click it tells you which version you're going to be using. Is it as streamlined as Smart Delivery? No. Is it this impenetrable, dense, convoluted process that would challenge the average person? Apparently so.
I mean, we play games, right? We've been doing it for a while and having fun etc. Do we really need this much hand holding?
I suppose it's like George Carlin said... think of how stupid the average person is, and then realise that half of them are even more stupider than that.
But still, I despair.
Re: The Persistence Enhanced Respawns on PS5 This Year
@LordSteev I'm not sure. It's a solid roguelike, with a good narrative that explains and justifies the repeated changes on the decks.
So take any of your above standard roguelike's like Binding of Isaac, Hades etc, and the principles are similar.
This is slightly different though due to the FPS perspective, and survival horror elements. It's also a superb experience in both VR and on the normal telly.
Truth is I'm a sucker for roguelike games, and horror, so this was a sure thing for me. Pretty sure there's a demo on the store if you're keen though.
Re: The Persistence Enhanced Respawns on PS5 This Year
Happy days. I bought this just before Xmas and was pleasantly surprised with it. Better yet, there was an issue with the trophies not loading, and the team were happy and responsive in dealing with me (they eventually patched it) to resolve it.
Good people. Good game. Looking forward to shiny free upgrade. Win.
Re: PS5 Firmware Update 20.02-02.50.00 Available to Download Now
Anyone know if this has resolved the "phantom disc spinning" issue?
Re: No Man's Sky Patch 3.15 Makes Improvements to PS5, PSVR Versions
@Perryg92 I was gonna ask this... so if I want to play NMS in VR on PS5, I've got to d/l the PS4 version and play it via BC? I can't actually play the PS5 version in VR, right?
Re: Random: The 25-Year-Old PS1 Demo Disc Cheat You Never Knew About
@WhiteTrashGuy funnily enough, I went out of my way to get a physical copy of it recently to fire it up. It's still fun 😜
Re: Random: The 25-Year-Old PS1 Demo Disc Cheat You Never Knew About
@deathaxe that's really made me smile. Cheers for sharing.
Re: Random: The 25-Year-Old PS1 Demo Disc Cheat You Never Knew About
Amazing memories. Jumping Flash, Loaded and ESPN Xtreme Sports were also treasured snippets.
As was the interactive T-Rex and Stingray...
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Patch 1.06 Out Now on PS5, PS4, Promises Less Crashes on Consoles
@Onion_Knight well, yeah. I get paid to do my job.
But if my boss asked me to come in and work over Christmas and not see my family because he ***** his own pants on purpose, I wouldn't be impressed.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Patch 1.06 Out Now on PS5, PS4, Promises Less Crashes on Consoles
Tbh I feel pretty bad for the people working this. They aren't the ones that decided the game get published when it did, and I'm presuming they're being worked pretty bloody hard now, right over the holiday period no less.
I guess there are some who are passionate and willing to do it, but then I'm also guessing there are others who have families waiting for them. It just seems like a raw deal is all.
Re: Sony Removes Cyberpunk 2077 from PS Store, Pledges Refunds for All PS Store Purchases
Staggering. I hope this is a lesson that CDPR takes very seriously. Genuinely unreal.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Aiming to Be a 'Playable, Stable Game without Glitches and Crashes'
@HotGoomba___Rebrand you held true to your word though. Commendatoré.
Re: PS5 Brute Force Fixes Cyberpunk 2077's PS4 Technical Problems
@AdamNovice hey, don't bad mouth skunks! I'd rather go for having a dog take a crap in my mouth instead. Fair?
Re: Assassin's Creed Valhalla's Second Big Update Arrives Next Week
This is the first one since Black Flag that I think I'll actually finish. Origins and Odysee both bored me to tears.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 (PS4) - The Potential of a Masterpiece, Totally and Utterly Unrealised
I put a few hours in earlier on PS5 and decided to park it. I'm gonna finish Valhalla and come back to it. When I (accidentally) ran over a guy who was floating in the middle of the road, I realised it needs just a smidge more polish...
Re: Master Chief Comes to PlayStation Platforms Thanks to Fortnite
@Wormold I accidentally said Master Queef years ago. Can't stop it now.
Re: Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 Unlikely to Release in First Half of 2021
That headline picture is... disconcerting.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Has Quality and Performance Modes
@DonJorginho you sir, are one of the eggs that are good.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Has Quality and Performance Modes
@DonJorginho yeah, man. Share away if it ain't gonna get you a rap on the knuckles.
Re: PS5 Microphone Records Your Voice When You Get a Trophy
Aw man, my voice hasn't been recorded for some reason. That's a shame. I'm pretty confident that I screamed and swore profusely on a couple of my wins 😅
Re: Warframe Deploys on PS5 This Week with Numerous Next-Gen Upgrades
It's staggering the amount of support they've given this game, and the majority of it for free as well. It's literally lasted longer than a whole generation. Bravo, I say.
Re: Soapbox: Having My PS5 Launch Day Nerfed By Amazon
As someone who deals with complaints for a living, the £150 D&I (distress and inconvenience) is pretty high for a "level of service" complaint. I would be 99% sure that this is more than likely due to you being high profile i.e. a reporter for Push Square etc.
The problem now is that they've set a precedent that everyone else will expect.
Overall, the outcome is pretty dire, so I'm really, really sorry to hear you got shafted, Ant. I'd be inclined to have something formal from them though, and also find out who they're regulated by in terms of their complaint handling.
If you're unhappy with their "final position" regarding the raised concerns, you are 100% within your rights to escalate it to their regulator. If they then review your concerns and feel Amazon haven't dealt with you fairly, they will have the authority to overturn Amazons decision.
Re: HBO Greenlights The Last of Us TV Show, Production to Begin Soon
May as well take advantage of filming now, given the state of the world. Cheap production value be coming out the wazoo!
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want to Know About PS5?
3D audio would be good. Is it really a good add on or a bit of a nothing gimmick?
Also the pad. How long does it take to charge, and how long does it take to deplete (ish).
Re: Watch Dogs Legion - The Dullest Ubisoft Open-Worlder Yet
@Caliburn08 there just seems to be a huge lack of imagination at the company when it comes to their key franchises... they all adopt a similar if not identical template, and rarely deviate from it. As a result their games often feel like a chore as opposed to fun.
I did really enjoy Watch Dogs 2 to be fair, after the sea of mediocrity that was the first. Still, the low reviews here make me a little disappointed.
Re: How to Get a Free PS5 PlayStation Camera Adaptor for PSVR
Just to check the errors that people are getting, is it "Oops! Something went wrong. Please contact your local distributer or Retailer for support." ?
Re: DOOM Eternal: The Ancient Gods - Part One - Much More of PS4's Best FPS
@Omnistalgic you're not alone. I bought the ridiculous Collectors Edition for Eternal, and the whole buy-out has just left a bad taste in my mouth. I went from being hugely excited for the DLC to complete ambivalence. I mean, it's hard to get excited about the franchise now knowing that I may never get to play the inevitable sequel unless I buy an Xbox.
Re: Ghost of Tsushima's Massive 1.1 Update Heavily Inspired by Fan Feedback and Community Suggestions
@Futureshark seconded. I tend to lose interest with open world games after about 40%-50%, but this was one of the few titles that not only kept me engaged from start to finish, but actually saddened me when I realised I was nearing the end.
I'm gonna save my NG+ playthrough for PS5 though. Absolutely looking forward to diving back in.
Re: PS5 Display Stand Appears in Japanese Store
@rachetmarvel mmmm, smell-feel is the best.
Re: Pet Pups to Make Them Your Allies in Ghost of Tsushima's Update
@doctommaso Goddamn it, I came here to say these exact words and you beat me.
Re: PS5 Pre-Orders from Some Retailers May Not Be Fulfilled Until 2021
@W0rl0ck had the same email yesterday. And another last week from Very advising I was on track for day one. Exciting times.
Re: Harry Potter Author J.K. Rowling Is Not Involved with Hogwarts Legacy
Crikey Moses, the ignore button is getting a workout this morning... so much hate.
Re: Hogwarts Legacy Is an Open World RPG, Will Allow You to Become the Witch or Wizard You Want to Be
@Zuljaras "Even if Hitler comes and makes a good game I will play it."
That is a booooooooold statement...
Re: Sony Won't Follow Game Pass Model on PS5, Doesn't Believe It's Sustainable
I still don't really see the point of Game Pass. Maybe it's all psychological and I'm a bit broken. I've got a 12 month Ultimate subscription, so all those games are there. But considering I can dip and dive into any of them, I feel rarely inclined to bother. It almost feels like having them as free commodities cheapens their worth.
I recently bought Origami King, TLOU2 and Ghost of Tsushima, and considering I paid full price I felt way more inclined to finish them. Which I did. Meanwhile there's a lot of stuff on my X that has only been grazed over, as I've been fickle and just tried multiple titles. Maybe it's just me <shrugs>.
Re: PS5 Pre-Orders Start Tomorrow at Select Retailers
@severeatrophy they're just getting battered. I completed my.purchase using a guest login, I'll just amend it through customer service at later date to tie it to my account.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Has Optional 60FPS Mode on PS5
@Pat_trick that's how I'm reading it.
Re: Resident Evil Netflix Show Confirmed, Sounds Ludicrously Amazing
@Enuo you're not alone, man. It's 4pm here and I had to re-read it a few times before my brain accepted it.
Re: Resident Evil 7 Becomes the Best-Selling Game in the Series
@nookie_egg @OMG_Waffles I just couldn't do with the pant-sh*thing VR experience of playing a heightened terror simulator after a day in work. I think this was the day where I had to acknowledge I'm getting old.
Re: Capcom Suggests Lacking Resident Evil 3 Sales Aren't All That Surprising
@nessisonett speed run?! People are smashing it in less than an hour now aren't they? Get your name in lights, @nessisonett!
Re: Capcom Suggests Lacking Resident Evil 3 Sales Aren't All That Surprising
@ArcadeHeroes yeah, I concur here. Value is completely subjective. And I completely agree about the bloated open world collectathons. I haven't finished an Assassins Creed game in years. It's exhausting, as opposed to fun.
Less is more, sometimes. I guess it is very much, as you say, a case of each to their own ✌
Re: Capcom Suggests Lacking Resident Evil 3 Sales Aren't All That Surprising
@ArcadeHeroes I'm not disagreeing with your sentiments, but I think what @nessisonett is saying is that it's a bit hard to stomach paying £50+ for a game you could finish in a handful of hours. I say this because I share that view. It's one thing to say judge a game by its quality, but surely value forms part of that as well.
I've got no beef playing shorter games; I'm a huge fan of indies. But their price tag is usually appropriate whereas I'm not sure RE3's is.
Re: Oh Boy, There'll Be a Backlash to This Marvel's Avengers Trailer
@Bentleyma- nope, just a preorder. I put one in with Amazon, got my code, then cancelled the preorder. I've done it with Anthem and a few other games. Get involved, son!
Re: Oh Boy, There'll Be a Backlash to This Marvel's Avengers Trailer
Playing the beta now. Much more fun than I anticipated considering the amount of moaning making the rounds. I'm happy to give it the time of day now; may even consider a purchase at some point.
Re: Tormented Souls Is the Survival Horror Game of Our Dreams
@Westernwolf4 yeah, I remember loving it at the time and haven't been back to it since... its probably not aged well but I respected them massively for what they were trying to do with it. Good to find a chap after my own heart
Re: Tormented Souls Is the Survival Horror Game of Our Dreams
That brief snippet of the enemy reminded me of The Suffering. A PS2 gem IMO.