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@nessisonett like Arrowhead who has been working with Sony for 10 years and now have a mega hit in Helldivers 2?

@ConsoleGamer86

the problem: SEGA wants to charge you $100 for a game
people: but on gamepass is FrEeEeEeE
lol

This studio was cooked since the day they lost their co-funder. Sony wanted to work with that guy not with Deviation so they hired the guy and people who started to leave Deviation, pulled the money from the project and the studio was done. Whatever happened in Deviation that make the guy leave was the first and last mistake for the studio.

@MaddieTian spider man would do well anywhere because spidy is the most famous super hero on the planet. Uncharted didn't even sell on pc and that is a shame because Nathan Drake is one of the most iconic characters in Sony history.

@breakneck f2p gachas are live services brother. Asia has enough services on their phones already so it's actually a world thing not just the west

MS to Sony watching SoT at top:
"You guys are selling games?"

"We can't charge more than $70"

My heart is with the SEGA warriors who had to fight with such development difficulties.

@carlos82 now imagine how much lower the margin would be if the console DOESN'T sell lol. The Sony stock value depends directly of how many consoles Sony sells.

The problem is clear as day, you can't spend 1/4 billion for every game you make and that has to change with or without exclusivity.

Funny that the guy who greenlighted the first wave of 200+ million ps games now wants to enlighten us with "the truth". Can't wait for Ryan interviews post PS, "Services aren't the answer we need more single player games" lol.

He should know as a former Sony suit guy that console sales are one if not the biggest Sony income source since the ps4 era, the ps4 sales saved Sony from the possibility of bankruptcy lol. In a world where pc is already big if you take exclusivity you take console sales. It doesn't matter how much software can sell if you lose the whole company while you shift business. That's why companies don't do it until it's completely necessary like SEGA and that's why with a stable economy you will never see Nintendo games on pc ... legally.

The thing about smaller games is something we all agree has to happen, not much new info there.

And with its $40 tag it's pretty clear Helldivers didn't cost 1/4 billion dollars so Sony could learn a thing of two about smaller games.

Also for the people who thought Persona was going to make the most money because of its popularity and "it wasn't that expensive to make" the final answer was no and no, it's popular but not THAT popular and a beautiful game like Persona of course was expensive.

@Americansamurai1 that's actually mean

@Player_1_Ready why would you want to NOT pay full price for something that captures your attention? lol

Insomniac, Bluepoint and Housemarque said the same once lol, just saying.

Well deserved a FANTASTIC game from FANTASTIC devs.

Watching it at the top downloads and also out of stock in my XBOX/COD/FIFA country has been great.

I have played Helldivers 1 since 2016 lol, Helldivers 2 will have the same treatment from me.

@AK4tywill not only this is about January and Helldivers is a February game but also when Helldivers sold its first million the steam players number was on 160k at its highest. From where do you think the other 800k came? lol.

MS has the best devs (at least that's what people in this site say) but they sure lack cleverness to name stuff lol.

@breakneck "most normal gamers" sounds like a huge stretch LOL, isn't people who call themselves "gamers" people who want the maximum challenge? People who want to master everything there is in the games they like? Well ... good trophies that are actually planned are exactly that lol and this comes from a NOT-gamer just a platinum enjoyer.

Sound like a quick plat ... once it's on ps plus extra.

Starts to sound like Sony is wasting money with these guys. They can't make big games anymore and the suit guys blame sony because of the low sales when the sales are what they are because the games suck lol.

If they somehow manage to ruin ff 14 later this year Embracer will have a shot on buying SE lol.

Is the author of this thing still obsessed with sexual abuse to the point that every arc has to include it?

The only reason why I would like to see numbers is because I like numbers lol I don't really care who is playing what, I would never play something just because a lot of people are.

Helldivers is the perfect example. I was ready to play before the game was out, I'm glad Arrowhead is getting the recognition they deserve but now that A LOT of people are only buying the game to make bait on youtube and tiktok about the problems the game has I can't wait for the numbers to go down because I know I'm going to keep playing the game for the years to come just like the first one, 500k players per day or not.

I'm more interested in sales than in players numbers and sales are info even more delicate to show so it is what it is.

@UltimateOtaku91 this is exactly what is happening. The way they talk it looks like sony gave them development money ONCE and never gave them money again because of the internal problems the studio had to put their ideas together about the game.

So we are going to act like people give a damn about the ps store pc edition? LOL. Sammy if the day is slow this site never made a story about the secret fps project Sony is working with ex Deviaton devs.

@djlard thinking that devs don't care about quality just because they are owned by big companies is an insult against people who are actually outstanding in what they do, not "anyone" can work on those places.

You are talking about the entertainment industry, don't forget that. The reason why videogames exist is because they make money but at the end of the day all of them, included the games people use to express problems or life experiences are still that, entertainment. They don't need to be "art" to be great.

Everything was great until "building games that are actually fun ..." once again someone from the industry thinking they know the concept of universal fun when the concept of fun depends directly of who is playing the game.

War is a business, that include console wars lol.

I don't think it will reach the Palworld ground (I would be happy if they do tho) BUT if we think about other legendary franchises with online it already surpassed Halo Infinite peak. Halo may not be what it was but every time there is a new one (even more now that Infinite multi was free) thousands of people go back to the franchise looking for the same feeling it had in the 360 era.
The fact that more people are giving this so called "generic coop game" a chance it's outstanding.

Imagine if it was on xbox like Spencer wants. The numbers would be "f*cking amazing" + 10 people!

LOL

This is 100% port begging btw. Those socialists want to infiltrate our forces.

@ShogunRok that's exactly what will happen my friend.

Remember the "Nintendo is my best friend" campaign when crossplay started to be a thing? Well this will be more of the same LOL

Spencer is still trying to play with the xbox users lol. The worst part is I'm sure people still believe in him.

I wasn't expecting anything because if I wanted to play xbox games I would play them on pc but this sure isn't much lol, I'm only interested in Grounded and I hope this erases the argument of sony nor trying anymore because they won.

"If you really wanna steal those cod players please add a PVP mode at some point to keep the more hardcore gamers engaged with the game" YIKES.
I don't want to imagine a world where Helldivers wants to be cod 2.0. No thanks.

I love that Johan is so vocal when it comes to these things.

This almost looks like a Subnautica mod that became a full game. If this game can capture the charm the Subnautica games have the exclusivity could be good business.

Still can't believe Disney chose this guys to make the KOTOR remake (Sony was just paying the development to get the exclusivity like they to with other games).

It sure looks like they only want to shut down everything and sell the ips separately.

"Every screen is an xbox" sounds like a line from movie about a dystopian world LOL

Before this what I was expecting for the rest of the year after Stellar Blade was Destiny 2 last expansion, GOW remake and Concord. This takes the possibility of GOW, still not the biggest news lol.

@Th3solution The game itself didn't touch any subject as far as we know that's why the korean government didn't do something to stop the release. It was the developer who made de comparison.

Now, this was actually good PR for Sony. Other reports have claimed korean users have praised the move from Sony to put the game out completely from Korea.
Sony investing so much money in Korea right now was probably the reason they acted so quick. So it looks like it won't have any consequences for Sony.

The problem is actually for KT LOL, Sony is one of the biggest income sources they have and this could actually ruin that relationship so hopefully they apologize or something.

Great review. I'm so happy Arrowhead is getting the lights they deserve, such good developers with love for their community and their product.

After almost 10 years of working exclusively for PS it's time for Sony to put them a ring.

@DiddyWahDiddy for good games it doesn't matter if they are services or not*

Many people who complain about services don't want to acknowledge there is a reason why the most popular ones are successful, and the reason is because they are FUN (to their user objective).

Great numbers for a great game from great devs.

If they print the Halo MC I would buy that just for the fun of it having the ps5 banner. Other than that Grounded and KI. I was lucky because nothing big MS bought in the ps4/5 era was of my interest, Obsidian was the only studio that was a loss.

@K-Wud your opinion is respected but the 2 core ideas are things pc players don't want. They don't want to pay for prebuild pcs and they don't want to use other launchers to play games, that's why ms started releasing blizzard games on steam.

@Dodoo thanks

I wonder what % is $1.5 billion today compared with the $1.45 from Sony 2 years ago.

I'll be doing my part (if Amazon doesn't fail me)

I feel like the guys at Bend Studios have a lot of heart, they work pr like few studios. Days Gone was just the wrong project with a manchild director.

I really hope they show something great next time.

• "Korean Nier" and SE
• Konami and the announcement of "Not-MGS in space"
• Capcom next big game and one of Sony biggest japanese investments that launch the same day.

That SoP was wild.

@TheCollector316 once EVO Europe is up and running I wouldn't be surprised. Bungie is/was working in what they called a "fighter" but after last year maybe that never happens.

@Deoxyr1bose Sony doesn't decide everything, that's true. But the same way the EVO GM always answered the "where is ki" with "we have to ask". If you made millions with a partner who happens to have a fg and would benefit from some exposition you can do the same, ask.