The tittle may suggest different but this game had a gameplay demo in a chinese expo like months ago, if anything it went from "is this real?" to "this exists" and that for chinese and korean projects is A LOT lol.
Is this game THAT good? I don't know maybe is because the only pirates I care about are space pirates but this game looks more like a streamer game than something that I could be crazy about. I know the pre orders were high and hopefully people enjoy what they are paying for (paying for your games is what cool kids do lol) but if I were MS I wouldn't decide if my games can sell on PS with something so niche.
I had a déjà vu or these news were already out a couple days after saying there were no big games until march of the next year? Maybe the guy said it back then and now said it again in a different podcast.
I mean if they were to the extent of saying "No MAJOR tittles" one could think that they have something small in hands for this year. Even Concord is still in plans for this year, they just didn't count it as major (actually the right decision, we don't want another days gone situation, not everything is gold lol).
@slayernz I don't know what you guys are talking about or if you are being sarcastic lol but WORD. Platinums feel way better than just getting all the achievements of a game. That's why a rumor said Xbox was thinking about their incorporation.
@billyboyblue666 he started talking about his new game in late 2019, just before the Mandalorian season 1. He made a tweet about GOW new director and how he trusted in him, changed his twitter header to an image with stars and when Mandalorian was in transmission he started talking about games in space, that's why the stronger rumors to this day are still about a new space game. Then covid happened and like all the other games it sure has a delay for the lockdown.
@NEStalgia
"Are we still wondering why western devs are downsizing and closing at record pace?"
No.
The west is using too much money on games and they aren't selling enough to keep the phase. The chinese games you talk about cost peanuts (in comparison). The topic of the games has nothing to do with the current situation of the industry. People love to use Elden Ring as an example of the best to make less a lot of games so using Fromsoftware as an example by your logic they shouldn't exist anymore but they do because they don't waste millions in graphics, they do just enough. Smaller japanese studios have said it before, the industry (the consumers) are expecting games that are just too expensive to make. The funny thing is that a lot of people who talk about the industry and what is bad with it will see Ronin in a couple of days and one of the main things they will criticize is how the game looks "dated" LOL. They want a better industry but also want small studios to use all the money possible so the game looks "great" even when that move can kill the studio.
Current Bungie doesn't have salvation at this point. The people in charge need to go. This "fear" and "stress" at the Bungie workplace that so many reports have talked about since last year is completely their fault.
"Sony wasted money buying Bungie" yeah that happened two years ago so it's old news, now it's time for solutions. What Sony should do is:
1.- Take complete control over Bungie. Sounds like Destiny 2 last dlc has to be a huge hit to save the current Bungie independence so there is a big chance it won't happen. PS is a lot of things but they still make pretty good games and Bungie needs that, direction.
2.- Kick the CEO and other administrative high ranks. I know internet is very sensitive to the concept of firing people but we are talking about the people who made a mess of Destiny 2, the people who decided to fire their own devs in 2023 (probably to get back their % of Bungie shares assigned by the Sony acquisition)and the people who played martyr so the community would blame Sony even when they didn't make the decision.
3.- Retain all the devs you can. Will be difficult because a lot of devs may not want to know anything about Bungie anymore once the current regime is over but Bungie isn't London Studios, you can't just close it.
Personally I don't think Bungie was that much of a waste. The only way Sony was going to stop the service dream was with a failure of their own. When you are minority owner of the biggest service in existence (Fortnite) and your biggest chinese partner makes service hit over service hit (Hoyo) the failures of SEGA, Warner, etc means nothing, you need to shoot your shot BUT when your own failure makes you lose money that's when perspectives change. Knowing how much money Sony is putting in games and how they canceled at least 6 services + the costs post release like future content, servers, etc and the possibility of a second wave of services already in development by that point the Bungie implosion probably saved Sony just in time.
Now about Marathon shifting to hero stuff is a big downgrade for me so I'm pretty much out unless it shows that can be special, maybe the ex Valorant dev can do it, I hope so.
@zhoont Too soon to think about their next game. HD 1 was very small and got 4 years of content. HD 2 took 8 years of development and it is the CEO's dreams game so one would think ArrowHead will put all their focus on this game for the next half a decade. They are already recruiting devs with real life guns experience to make new weapons for HD.
I was very excited about Blood Bowl 3 but the release conditions weren't the best so I didn't buy it and this is a good chance to actually play it, also a good chance to see what is Ace Attorney all about. Good month.
This is one I'm glad is cancelled. It's a live service so the chances of Gwen or Miguen having actual personalities was very low. Also as much as I love Insomniac Spiderman and even knowing I play the game once a year (this year including Spiderman 2) I don't see how this would be profitable, how people would play this game for more than 3 months, would be just a waste of talent.
If Gwen, Miguel or other Spiders make their debut in Insomniac games I want it to be as big as possible.
@nessisonett correction this is a studio which has shut down because they lost a key member just within months after signing a big partnership* or you didn't know in the game industry the devs are part of contracts and losing those devs are the equivalent of a contract breach? They lost funding and didn't find a new partnership, that's how business works.
1 + pink = Christopher Nolan LOL
This studio was cooked since the day they lost their co-funder. Sony wanted to work with that guy not with Deviation so they hired the guy and people who started to leave Deviation, pulled the money from the project and the studio was done. Whatever happened in Deviation that make the guy leave was the first and last mistake for the studio.
@MaddieTian spider man would do well anywhere because spidy is the most famous super hero on the planet. Uncharted didn't even sell on pc and that is a shame because Nathan Drake is one of the most iconic characters in Sony history.
@carlos82 now imagine how much lower the margin would be if the console DOESN'T sell lol. The Sony stock value depends directly of how many consoles Sony sells.
The problem is clear as day, you can't spend 1/4 billion for every game you make and that has to change with or without exclusivity.
Funny that the guy who greenlighted the first wave of 200+ million ps games now wants to enlighten us with "the truth". Can't wait for Ryan interviews post PS, "Services aren't the answer we need more single player games" lol.
He should know as a former Sony suit guy that console sales are one if not the biggest Sony income source since the ps4 era, the ps4 sales saved Sony from the possibility of bankruptcy lol. In a world where pc is already big if you take exclusivity you take console sales. It doesn't matter how much software can sell if you lose the whole company while you shift business. That's why companies don't do it until it's completely necessary like SEGA and that's why with a stable economy you will never see Nintendo games on pc ... legally.
The thing about smaller games is something we all agree has to happen, not much new info there.
And with its $40 tag it's pretty clear Helldivers didn't cost 1/4 billion dollars so Sony could learn a thing of two about smaller games.
Also for the people who thought Persona was going to make the most money because of its popularity and "it wasn't that expensive to make" the final answer was no and no, it's popular but not THAT popular and a beautiful game like Persona of course was expensive.
@AK4tywill not only this is about January and Helldivers is a February game but also when Helldivers sold its first million the steam players number was on 160k at its highest. From where do you think the other 800k came? lol.
@breakneck "most normal gamers" sounds like a huge stretch LOL, isn't people who call themselves "gamers" people who want the maximum challenge? People who want to master everything there is in the games they like? Well ... good trophies that are actually planned are exactly that lol and this comes from a NOT-gamer just a platinum enjoyer.
Starts to sound like Sony is wasting money with these guys. They can't make big games anymore and the suit guys blame sony because of the low sales when the sales are what they are because the games suck lol.
If they somehow manage to ruin ff 14 later this year Embracer will have a shot on buying SE lol.
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Re: PSN Data Says Foamstars' Future Is Bleak, Just Two Months After Release
It doesn't have a platinum, that says enough about of how much work was in this game and how PlayStation sees this game.
Re: Indie Smash Hit Vampire Survivors Is Finally Coming to PS5, PS4 This Summer
Waiting line for Halls of Torment, do it Sony just like with V Rising.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Favourite PS5 Game of 2024 So Far?
Only the biggest game of the year (early access don't count lol) Helldivers 2.
Re: Long Awaited PS5 Action Game Lost Soul Aside Is Still Alive, But Early 2024 Window Is Long Gone
The tittle may suggest different but this game had a gameplay demo in a chinese expo like months ago, if anything it went from "is this real?" to "this exists" and that for chinese and korean projects is A LOT lol.
Re: Sea of Thieves Reportedly a 'Key Test' for More Xbox Games on PS5
Is this game THAT good? I don't know maybe is because the only pirates I care about are space pirates but this game looks more like a streamer game than something that I could be crazy about. I know the pre orders were high and hopefully people enjoy what they are paying for (paying for your games is what cool kids do lol) but if I were MS I wouldn't decide if my games can sell on PS with something so niche.
Re: 'Smaller' PS5 Exclusives Still Reportedly Coming Later This Year
I had a déjà vu or these news were already out a couple days after saying there were no big games until march of the next year? Maybe the guy said it back then and now said it again in a different podcast.
I mean if they were to the extent of saying "No MAJOR tittles" one could think that they have something small in hands for this year. Even Concord is still in plans for this year, they just didn't count it as major (actually the right decision, we don't want another days gone situation, not everything is gold lol).
Re: Helldivers 2 Democratic Detonation Warbond Offers New, Explosive Peacekeeping Options
Many people may not like the concept the internet has about services but I absolutely love to see this site with Helldivers news almost every day.
Like AH said before, games need to win the right for microtransactions and Helldivers already won that right so of course I will buy stuff when I can.
Re: New Hollow Knight: Silksong Age Rating Fuels More Speculation
@Ralizah they were in the Direct for love, MS only bought their time lol
Re: Big Helldivers 2 PS5, PC Update Adds New Weather Hazards, Increases the Level Cap
Now I have to see hundreds of bitch posting on reddit about why this update sucks. PC players are the best .... yay.
Re: Random: Vladimir Putin Considers Creation of Russian Gaming Console
They already have one, it's called pc. Valve never left Russia even when you can't put money on your account directly there are easy ways to do it.
Now for less serious topics I'm from Mexico so we won't get their nukes but we could get their console lol.
Re: UK Sales Charts: South Park: Snow Day Chills with the Bestsellers, Rise of the Ronin Falls
Helldivers 2 all day baby!
Re: PS5's Stellar Blade Isn't Out Yet, But There's Already Talk of a Sequel
No photo mode? They really are going to make the hornies to ask and wait. Respect.
Re: PlayStation Fans Torn on Prospect of PS5 Pro
The tittle implies most people who visit this site and comment are ps fans and oh boy that's far from the truth lol
Re: 6v6 Hero Shooter Marvel Rivals Officially Announced, But There's No Mention of PS5
It looks like an Overwatch mod and that isn't a compliment lol.
"There's No Mention of PS5" Yeah they can keep this one.
Re: Devs Allegedly Pondering the Point of Sony's PS5 Pro Upgrade
What is funny is the implication of asking for a ps6 instead when they already said they haven't done the best they can with the ps5 lol.
Pro will be there to sell hardware to people who may want to buy it, just like the portal. Nothing more, nothing less.
Re: Xbox Planning to Release the 'Majority' of Its Exclusives on PS5
@Beetlebum91 "nothing beats a shiny platinum unlocking when you get all the trophies!"
Re: Xbox Planning to Release the 'Majority' of Its Exclusives on PS5
@slayernz I don't know what you guys are talking about or if you are being sarcastic lol but WORD. Platinums feel way better than just getting all the achievements of a game. That's why a rumor said Xbox was thinking about their incorporation.
Re: Development of Santa Monica Studios' Next PS5 Game Appears to Be Going Swimmingly
It's coming guys and the doomers aren't ready.
Re: Development of Santa Monica Studios' Next PS5 Game Appears to Be Going Swimmingly
@billyboyblue666 he started talking about his new game in late 2019, just before the Mandalorian season 1. He made a tweet about GOW new director and how he trusted in him, changed his twitter header to an image with stars and when Mandalorian was in transmission he started talking about games in space, that's why the stronger rumors to this day are still about a new space game. Then covid happened and like all the other games it sure has a delay for the lockdown.
Re: Pokémon Meets Waifus! Azur Promilia Will Be a Big Deal on PS5
@NEStalgia
"Are we still wondering why western devs are downsizing and closing at record pace?"
No.
The west is using too much money on games and they aren't selling enough to keep the phase. The chinese games you talk about cost peanuts (in comparison). The topic of the games has nothing to do with the current situation of the industry. People love to use Elden Ring as an example of the best to make less a lot of games so using Fromsoftware as an example by your logic they shouldn't exist anymore but they do because they don't waste millions in graphics, they do just enough. Smaller japanese studios have said it before, the industry (the consumers) are expecting games that are just too expensive to make. The funny thing is that a lot of people who talk about the industry and what is bad with it will see Ronin in a couple of days and one of the main things they will criticize is how the game looks "dated" LOL. They want a better industry but also want small studios to use all the money possible so the game looks "great" even when that move can kill the studio.
Re: Bungie Shuffles Marathon Leadership as Fears of Further Layoffs Loom
Current Bungie doesn't have salvation at this point. The people in charge need to go. This "fear" and "stress" at the Bungie workplace that so many reports have talked about since last year is completely their fault.
"Sony wasted money buying Bungie" yeah that happened two years ago so it's old news, now it's time for solutions. What Sony should do is:
1.- Take complete control over Bungie. Sounds like Destiny 2 last dlc has to be a huge hit to save the current Bungie independence so there is a big chance it won't happen. PS is a lot of things but they still make pretty good games and Bungie needs that, direction.
2.- Kick the CEO and other administrative high ranks. I know internet is very sensitive to the concept of firing people but we are talking about the people who made a mess of Destiny 2, the people who decided to fire their own devs in 2023 (probably to get back their % of Bungie shares assigned by the Sony acquisition)and the people who played martyr so the community would blame Sony even when they didn't make the decision.
3.- Retain all the devs you can. Will be difficult because a lot of devs may not want to know anything about Bungie anymore once the current regime is over but Bungie isn't London Studios, you can't just close it.
Personally I don't think Bungie was that much of a waste. The only way Sony was going to stop the service dream was with a failure of their own. When you are minority owner of the biggest service in existence (Fortnite) and your biggest chinese partner makes service hit over service hit (Hoyo) the failures of SEGA, Warner, etc means nothing, you need to shoot your shot BUT when your own failure makes you lose money that's when perspectives change. Knowing how much money Sony is putting in games and how they canceled at least 6 services + the costs post release like future content, servers, etc and the possibility of a second wave of services already in development by that point the Bungie implosion probably saved Sony just in time.
Now about Marathon shifting to hero stuff is a big downgrade for me so I'm pretty much out unless it shows that can be special, maybe the ex Valorant dev can do it, I hope so.
Re: Legendary PlayStation First-Party Architect Connie Booth Joins EA
So legendary most people didn't know about her until David Jaffe and his need for attention hit social media lol.
The best of luck in her new job.
Re: Over Eight Million Helldivers 2 Players Recruited Since Last Month
@zhoont Too soon to think about their next game. HD 1 was very small and got 4 years of content. HD 2 took 8 years of development and it is the CEO's dreams game so one would think ArrowHead will put all their focus on this game for the next half a decade. They are already recruiting devs with real life guns experience to make new weapons for HD.
Re: 13 New Games Land on PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
I was very excited about Blood Bowl 3 but the release conditions weren't the best so I didn't buy it and this is a good chance to actually play it, also a good chance to see what is Ace Attorney all about. Good month.
Re: Cancelled Live Service Spider-Man PS5 Game Allegedly Surfaces
This is one I'm glad is cancelled. It's a live service so the chances of Gwen or Miguen having actual personalities was very low. Also as much as I love Insomniac Spiderman and even knowing I play the game once a year (this year including Spiderman 2) I don't see how this would be profitable, how people would play this game for more than 3 months, would be just a waste of talent.
If Gwen, Miguel or other Spiders make their debut in Insomniac games I want it to be as big as possible.
Re: Stellar Blade Dev Shift Up to Secure the Bag As It Plots Public Shares
Only 30% will be public and most likely some Saudi prince will buy it so everything is ok.
As a comment said above Sony priority should be Arrowhead not a little piece of Shift up.
Re: Stellar Blade Dev Shift Up to Secure the Bag As It Plots Public Shares
@LowDefAl we are talking about sony brother, I love them but if there is a thing they DON'T know how to do is good pr so it could happen.
Re: Fancy Ghostbusters Items Up Next in Destiny 2
@BeerIsAwesome yeah Bungie has WAY WAY bigger problems (built before the acquisition) than having Sony marketing in game lol
Re: Sony Partner Deviation Games Shuttered Before Shipping Its First PS5 Project
@nessisonett correction this is a studio which has shut down because they lost a key member just within months after signing a big partnership* or you didn't know in the game industry the devs are part of contracts and losing those devs are the equivalent of a contract breach? They lost funding and didn't find a new partnership, that's how business works.
1 + pink = Christopher Nolan LOL
Re: Sony Partner Deviation Games Shuttered Before Shipping Its First PS5 Project
@nessisonett like Arrowhead who has been working with Sony for 10 years and now have a mega hit in Helldivers 2?
Re: Persona 3 Reload: Episode Aigis Expansion Pass Priced at Roughly £30 / $35
@ConsoleGamer86
the problem: SEGA wants to charge you $100 for a game
people: but on gamepass is FrEeEeEeE
lol
Re: Sony Partner Deviation Games Shuttered Before Shipping Its First PS5 Project
This studio was cooked since the day they lost their co-funder. Sony wanted to work with that guy not with Deviation so they hired the guy and people who started to leave Deviation, pulled the money from the project and the studio was done. Whatever happened in Deviation that make the guy leave was the first and last mistake for the studio.
Re: Smooth Sailing for Xbox Exclusive Sea of Thieves As It Tops PS5 Pre-Order Charts
@MaddieTian spider man would do well anywhere because spidy is the most famous super hero on the planet. Uncharted didn't even sell on pc and that is a shame because Nathan Drake is one of the most iconic characters in Sony history.
Re: Smooth Sailing for Xbox Exclusive Sea of Thieves As It Tops PS5 Pre-Order Charts
@breakneck f2p gachas are live services brother. Asia has enough services on their phones already so it's actually a world thing not just the west
Re: Smooth Sailing for Xbox Exclusive Sea of Thieves As It Tops PS5 Pre-Order Charts
MS to Sony watching SoT at top:
"You guys are selling games?"
Re: Persona 3 Reload's Episode Aigis DLC Was Dropped from the Base Game Due to Development Difficulties
"We can't charge more than $70"
My heart is with the SEGA warriors who had to fight with such development difficulties.
Re: Exclusivity Is the Achilles' Heel of Huge Blockbusters, Says Former PlayStation Exec
@carlos82 now imagine how much lower the margin would be if the console DOESN'T sell lol. The Sony stock value depends directly of how many consoles Sony sells.
The problem is clear as day, you can't spend 1/4 billion for every game you make and that has to change with or without exclusivity.
Re: Exclusivity Is the Achilles' Heel of Huge Blockbusters, Says Former PlayStation Exec
Funny that the guy who greenlighted the first wave of 200+ million ps games now wants to enlighten us with "the truth". Can't wait for Ryan interviews post PS, "Services aren't the answer we need more single player games" lol.
He should know as a former Sony suit guy that console sales are one if not the biggest Sony income source since the ps4 era, the ps4 sales saved Sony from the possibility of bankruptcy lol. In a world where pc is already big if you take exclusivity you take console sales. It doesn't matter how much software can sell if you lose the whole company while you shift business. That's why companies don't do it until it's completely necessary like SEGA and that's why with a stable economy you will never see Nintendo games on pc ... legally.
The thing about smaller games is something we all agree has to happen, not much new info there.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Helldivers 2 Is Unstoppable, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Settles for Second
And with its $40 tag it's pretty clear Helldivers didn't cost 1/4 billion dollars so Sony could learn a thing of two about smaller games.
Also for the people who thought Persona was going to make the most money because of its popularity and "it wasn't that expensive to make" the final answer was no and no, it's popular but not THAT popular and a beautiful game like Persona of course was expensive.
Re: Capcom's PS5 Action Game Kunitsu-Gami: Path of the Goddess Continues to Show Promise
@Americansamurai1 that's actually mean
Re: Capcom's PS5 Action Game Kunitsu-Gami: Path of the Goddess Continues to Show Promise
@Player_1_Ready why would you want to NOT pay full price for something that captures your attention? lol
Re: Helldivers 2 Dev Pours Cold Water on PlayStation Acquisition Rumours
Insomniac, Bluepoint and Housemarque said the same once lol, just saying.
Re: Helldivers 2 Sales Are Actually Increasing, Again
Well deserved a FANTASTIC game from FANTASTIC devs.
Watching it at the top downloads and also out of stock in my XBOX/COD/FIFA country has been great.
Re: Poll: Are You Still Playing Helldivers 2?
I have played Helldivers 1 since 2016 lol, Helldivers 2 will have the same treatment from me.
Re: Jan 2024 USA Sales: Tekken, Suicide Squad, Persona, Like a Dragon, The Last of Us All Winners on PS5
@AK4tywill not only this is about January and Helldivers is a February game but also when Helldivers sold its first million the steam players number was on 160k at its highest. From where do you think the other 800k came? lol.
Re: Xbox May Need to Familiarise Itself with PS5, PS4's Platinum Trophies
MS has the best devs (at least that's what people in this site say) but they sure lack cleverness to name stuff lol.
Re: Xbox May Need to Familiarise Itself with PS5, PS4's Platinum Trophies
@breakneck "most normal gamers" sounds like a huge stretch LOL, isn't people who call themselves "gamers" people who want the maximum challenge? People who want to master everything there is in the games they like? Well ... good trophies that are actually planned are exactly that lol and this comes from a NOT-gamer just a platinum enjoyer.
Re: Xbox's Pentiment Is Out Now on PS5, PS4
Sound like a quick plat ... once it's on ps plus extra.
Re: Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (PS5) - Strong Sequel Seeks a New Direction
Starts to sound like Sony is wasting money with these guys. They can't make big games anymore and the suit guys blame sony because of the low sales when the sales are what they are because the games suck lol.
If they somehow manage to ruin ff 14 later this year Embracer will have a shot on buying SE lol.
Re: Sword Art Online Fractured Daydream Delves into 'Large-Scale' Multiplayer on PS5
Is the author of this thing still obsessed with sexual abuse to the point that every arc has to include it?