I saw this before, was interested because transformers is great and I love, but I didn't want to get more PSVR games at that point as I had enough unplayed ones and knew it would be hard to go back once I got a PSVR2. I'll definitely keep an eye on this and check out reviews. PSVR2 just keeps growing.
Okay, then a sign a permanent deal that all Bethesda and Activision games that are on Xbox will also be on PS. I’ll be waiting forever for you to say no exclusives from these deals because that won’t win victory.
When you look at console sales historically, I sometimes question if the game market really ever grew much in size. It seems to be in a similar spot that the PS1 era had in numbers.
@SgtTruth It’s not because MS has no reason to innovate and Sony. This isn’t Sony being protected from competition, this is MS being forced to compete. Buying out the games industry does help innovation. It means they innovate less than ever while punishing Sony to do a bit more. Now what if Xbox was forced to innovate to compete? Then we see some real good stuff. MS doing remarkably anti-consumer deals so Sony, who’s already innovating, has to innovate that much more while MS does what it can to stagnate the games industry is not a good option. This deal would stifle MS’s innovation completely. They’ll just bust out their wallet until the industry is theirs.
@SgtTruth Maybe we want MS to improve instead of throwing its wallet everywhere. Sony does a lot improve and bring new things to the table. MS is looking to buyout third-party games. Let’s MS being something new to the table.
I would add Serento, Deracine (haven’t played it yet [though I done it] but it’s a From game, enough said, pushing that as an exclusive would be a good after their rep has only increased), SW: Squadrons, the Chronos games/VNs, Resi 7, Detached, Hitman 3 (how is this not on there already?), and Spice & Wolf VR.
I agree, it's different. Also, the length of a game or the MP makes subscriptions an odd choice. It's easier to watch a movie or series before it drops off a subscription than a game. I can always go beat the game I bought, not so with a subscription, and with something like RDR2 or Persona, that really matters. Games also cost more to buy, meaning you get a lot more out of a single purchase for a game than other mediums. If you add Bethesda and Activitions games to gamepass, that's a lot of money lost in purchases, that has to be made up through more subscriptions. If most of those people bought COD anyway, how much extra content are you offering for twice the price of a COD title in a year? I don't think it's sustainable. Something has to give in how games are made or the price of the subscription. I can spend a lot of money in a month on games, or I can spend little to nothing. It all depends. It's easy to adjust too. Plus, TV series were either hard to catch, or insanely expensive to buy compared to a game. There were lots of problems that streaming solved for TV and music. None of those problems exist in games. None of them. They're easy to buy, most drop in price, and you don't need too many to occupy you.
@GamingFan4Lyf Many of those games are on PS or more PS aligned than Xbox aligned (Deathloop, Ghostwire), or were deep in development well before MS made a purchase. Calling much of that output is kinda stretching the term to tearing points as they threw money out there to have the label put on after the fact. The fact that you had to include two-PS timed exclusives as Xbox Studios output proves the point against your argument and shows how empty it is.
@Green-Bandit As if Activision couldn't stream those games anyway. You want to talk about lazy takes while forgetting basic Business deals? This isn't expansion, is buying out the competition and removing from it competing platforms. Yes, MS must own the industry in order for more people to play the games.
@Green-Bandit It's less about cloud logic specifically, more so that MS wants to buy their way into the industry in a way that is harmful to consumers instead of doing something that benefits consumers with innovation and a better product, not just a big wallet that can upset the industry by taking things away. It's monopoly tactics, even if not a monopoly, and we have a right to have the government step in and stop this kind of anti-consumer behavior. Sure, maybe it would be good for ABK, but not for the consumers of ABK. Prudence, simple prudence.
@Member_the_game Agreed, plus there are in the know people like me who don't want to use an online order buy want to get it with an extra warranty beyond Sony's as well. I'm so excited and am glad I waited now.
Yes! I'm pretty sure Us retailters will follow since US Amazon accidentally put up a page that said May 12th as well and that rumor turned out to be true it seems. I can't wait until I pre-order one of these at Gamestop.
Somebody call whaammbuuulance! (I've had my juvenile fun) Ah yes, preventing the 69 Billion dollar buyout of a company affects new businesses. Such a convincing argument. This really does sound overdramatic, and may hurt them more than help. So if I understand correctly, this means they buyout cannot occur? I'm not quite read up on international law for this kind of purchase. It's usually out of my budget.
@Tharsman Then they should rely on business other than a very shaky deal that has a huge amount of legitimate reasons to be blocked. They should not be relying on this deal. And that’s no reason for the deal to go through either.
No, they have no facts on their side other than a lack of innovation means they feel they must resort monopoly tactics.
I hope this gets blocked and puts off any other publisher from wanting to be bought out by MS.
@Korgon Haha, that’s great.
Yes! A government doing it’s freaking job regulating the economy. Great news, I had a feeling it might not go through, and hope this keeps up. MS shouldn’t be allowed to buy any more publishers in the industry. Frankly, even Bethesda was a sketchy deal.
I’m excited. I’d love to see a From game that isn’t a Souls game. I hope they don’t inject Souls into honestly. I want something different, and I don’t remember the bit of old AC I played having any Souls like elements aside from being hard.
I'd rather have something new TBH. I enjoyed what I played of the first one, but haven't felt like picking up the new one (also didn't finish the first) and would rather see something new now.
@UltimateOtaku91 If they cut almost half the game in GoW:R, I'd feel my money would better spent as the game is great, but a horrible offender for padding where what you're doing feels so gamified and pointless it's insane. Almost everything in that game takes longer than it needs to.
But but you see, Sony bought/former a single studio without a history of multiplat games, they’re just like MS buying out an entire publisher that out all their games on all platforms! (Sarcasm notice)
@zupertramp a better example would be animations and and having more than a few announcer lines be I locked behind a paywall. Part of what makes RDR2 is small touched you won’t say make the game great, but you notice subconsciously.
This is a basic part of the world, and it’s not savings you money, it’s nickel-and-diming.
And those MTs are dumb too. I hate deluxe addition stuff like that.
An example of saving money would be this.
You have a visual novel releasing on Steam. The adult content is locked behind a paywall. Let’s the VN costs $10, the adult content $5. Some people get mad about that. The game would just be $15 if they made the adult content free.
Now me, I don’t want the adult content. I’m not willing to play with the porn in there so it irreparably hames me experience with the game. So that decision saves me $5. That’s an example of the saving money by locking something being a paywall, but I don’t think it compares.
@zupertramp Considering the game is not looking amazing already, yes. And also, casuals will notice even if they think they don't. These things add up and make an experience. Small details affect how we feel about different media even when we don't articulate it.
@AdamNovice @TheArt @kyleforrester87 What about Moss? The mouse is the protagonist, and you see her through the eyes of the entity helping, in addition to reading a book. I think that qualifies.
I do agree with sales slowing down though. They must have gone through most people willing to buy one through direct. I really want one, but as this much time has passed as I wait for retail, some of my urge to have is gone. I'm still getting one immediately if goes on sale at GameStop, but I'm unsure still weather I'll get one from Direct before then by giving in. I do hope they see the direct idea as a failure though. Don't do that with the PS6.
@GrimReaper There's no reason to believe that it won't receive at least as much support as PSVR from Sony, and reason to think third-parties will have an easier time bringing games to it and will do so more often. We should see more support than PSVR1 overall at the least.
This look really cool. It needs to have some good dualsense implementation though, it looks just perfect for the game. this could also be really cool in VR too.
@nomither6 Stuff like the dualsense and other things like that come from console and console standardization. Not PC being fragmented. The limit of consoles is also what breaks limits.
@JB_Whiting Maybe some of us can have some good fun with the thumbnail and puns? It's interesting stuff. If you don't view it through a console warrior lens it becomes amusing instead of bait.
@nomither6 You mean where it costs a lot more, lacks the same innovation, and games often don't work? Nope, I prefer not to imagine playing on a PC for the most part.
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Re: Fans Begin to Debate Which PlayStation Franchise Could Be Getting an Anime
Bloobbonre sounds the make interesting and has enough Japanese roots to be a good start, but also can maintain a wider appeal.
Re: Battle Alongside the Autobots in Upgraded PSVR2 Port of Transformers Beyond Reality
I saw this before, was interested because transformers is great and I love, but I didn't want to get more PSVR games at that point as I had enough unplayed ones and knew it would be hard to go back once I got a PSVR2.
I'll definitely keep an eye on this and check out reviews. PSVR2 just keeps growing.
Re: Rumour: Konami Expected to Feature in Huge PS Showcase in Coming Weeks
Silent Hill VR, let's make it happen. Also, Metal Gear VR would be amazing too.
But I hope this is true. Sony would do great here.
Re: Xbox Boss Admits Microsoft Can't 'Outconsole' PS5
Okay, then a sign a permanent deal that all Bethesda and Activision games that are on Xbox will also be on PS.
I’ll be waiting forever for you to say no exclusives from these deals because that won’t win victory.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered on PS5 Is Available Standalone Now
Uhhh, A Miles Morales sale would get you this price or cheaper.
Re: This Is the Impact PS Plus Can Have on a Game's Player Numbers
I’d love to see the player count difference in a month and then a couple months from now.
Re: PlayStation Beats Nintendo, Xbox to Another Sales Milestone
When you look at console sales historically, I sometimes question if the game market really ever grew much in size. It seems to be in a similar spot that the PS1 era had in numbers.
Re: Activision Poised to Pocket a Cool $3 Billion if Xbox Buyout Breaks Down
@SgtTruth It’s not because MS has no reason to innovate and Sony. This isn’t Sony being protected from competition, this is MS being forced to compete. Buying out the games industry does help innovation. It means they innovate less than ever while punishing Sony to do a bit more.
Now what if Xbox was forced to innovate to compete? Then we see some real good stuff. MS doing remarkably anti-consumer deals so Sony, who’s already innovating, has to innovate that much more while MS does what it can to stagnate the games industry is not a good option.
This deal would stifle MS’s innovation completely. They’ll just bust out their wallet until the industry is theirs.
Re: Activision Poised to Pocket a Cool $3 Billion if Xbox Buyout Breaks Down
@SgtTruth Maybe we want MS to improve instead of throwing its wallet everywhere. Sony does a lot improve and bring new things to the table. MS is looking to buyout third-party games. Let’s MS being something new to the table.
Re: Best PSVR Games We Want Upgraded for PSVR2
I would add Serento, Deracine (haven’t played it yet [though I done it] but it’s a From game, enough said, pushing that as an exclusive would be a good after their rep has only increased), SW: Squadrons, the Chronos games/VNs, Resi 7, Detached, Hitman 3 (how is this not on there already?), and Spice & Wolf VR.
Re: Activision Poised to Pocket a Cool $3 Billion if Xbox Buyout Breaks Down
@Korgon How did they start it instead of MS? I don't think they solicited MS for this purchase unless I'm missing something.
Re: Activision Poised to Pocket a Cool $3 Billion if Xbox Buyout Breaks Down
@Korgon There’s often a penalty for backing out of a deal to buy a company. It’s pretty standard when this happens.
Re: Start Your Engines! First Twisted Metal TV Teaser Trailer Sets the Tone
Very nice, very nice, now about we Sony's new Twisted Metal game?
Re: Soapbox: I No Longer Think Subscriptions Like PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass Are the Future of Gaming
I agree, it's different. Also, the length of a game or the MP makes subscriptions an odd choice. It's easier to watch a movie or series before it drops off a subscription than a game. I can always go beat the game I bought, not so with a subscription, and with something like RDR2 or Persona, that really matters.
Games also cost more to buy, meaning you get a lot more out of a single purchase for a game than other mediums. If you add Bethesda and Activitions games to gamepass, that's a lot of money lost in purchases, that has to be made up through more subscriptions. If most of those people bought COD anyway, how much extra content are you offering for twice the price of a COD title in a year?
I don't think it's sustainable. Something has to give in how games are made or the price of the subscription. I can spend a lot of money in a month on games, or I can spend little to nothing. It all depends. It's easy to adjust too.
Plus, TV series were either hard to catch, or insanely expensive to buy compared to a game. There were lots of problems that streaming solved for TV and music. None of those problems exist in games. None of them. They're easy to buy, most drop in price, and you don't need too many to occupy you.
Re: 38.4 Million PS5 Systems Sold as Sony Records Its Best Q4 Results
@GamingFan4Lyf Many of those games are on PS or more PS aligned than Xbox aligned (Deathloop, Ghostwire), or were deep in development well before MS made a purchase.
Calling much of that output is kinda stretching the term to tearing points as they threw money out there to have the label put on after the fact. The fact that you had to include two-PS timed exclusives as Xbox Studios output proves the point against your argument and shows how empty it is.
Re: Microsoft Goes Scorched Earth Over UK's Activision Buyout Block
@Mikey856 A lot considering we have a right with self-government to have these kinds of anti-consumer practices stopped.
Re: Microsoft Goes Scorched Earth Over UK's Activision Buyout Block
@Green-Bandit As if Activision couldn't stream those games anyway. You want to talk about lazy takes while forgetting basic Business deals? This isn't expansion, is buying out the competition and removing from it competing platforms. Yes, MS must own the industry in order for more people to play the games.
Re: Microsoft Goes Scorched Earth Over UK's Activision Buyout Block
@Green-Bandit It's less about cloud logic specifically, more so that MS wants to buy their way into the industry in a way that is harmful to consumers instead of doing something that benefits consumers with innovation and a better product, not just a big wallet that can upset the industry by taking things away.
It's monopoly tactics, even if not a monopoly, and we have a right to have the government step in and stop this kind of anti-consumer behavior. Sure, maybe it would be good for ABK, but not for the consumers of ABK.
Prudence, simple prudence.
Re: Microsoft Goes Scorched Earth Over UK's Activision Buyout Block
@get2sammyb Thanks! I appreciate the quick explanation.
Re: PSVR2 Availability Expands to UK Retailers on 12th May
@Member_the_game Agreed, plus there are in the know people like me who don't want to use an online order buy want to get it with an extra warranty beyond Sony's as well. I'm so excited and am glad I waited now.
Re: PSVR2 Availability Expands to UK Retailers on 12th May
@Fishnpeas How do you have time to actually play all of those games properly? Serious question.
Re: PSVR2 Availability Expands to UK Retailers on 12th May
Yes! I'm pretty sure Us retailters will follow since US Amazon accidentally put up a page that said May 12th as well and that rumor turned out to be true it seems.
I can't wait until I pre-order one of these at Gamestop.
Re: Microsoft Goes Scorched Earth Over UK's Activision Buyout Block
Somebody call whaammbuuulance! (I've had my juvenile fun)
Ah yes, preventing the 69 Billion dollar buyout of a company affects new businesses. Such a convincing argument.
This really does sound overdramatic, and may hurt them more than help.
So if I understand correctly, this means they buyout cannot occur? I'm not quite read up on international law for this kind of purchase. It's usually out of my budget.
Re: Activision Blizzard Boss Bobby Kotick Warns Billion Dollar Buyout Saga Ain't Over
@Tharsman If monopoly tactics are required for them to stay in business, then yes
Re: Activision Blizzard Boss Bobby Kotick Warns Billion Dollar Buyout Saga Ain't Over
@Tharsman Then they should rely on business other than a very shaky deal that has a huge amount of legitimate reasons to be blocked. They should not be relying on this deal.
And that’s no reason for the deal to go through either.
Re: Activision Blizzard Boss Bobby Kotick Warns Billion Dollar Buyout Saga Ain't Over
No, they have no facts on their side other than a lack of innovation means they feel they must resort monopoly tactics.
I hope this gets blocked and puts off any other publisher from wanting to be bought out by MS.
@Korgon Haha, that’s great.
Re: Microsoft Dealt Major Blow as UK Blocks Activision Buyout
Yes! A government doing it’s freaking job regulating the economy. Great news, I had a feeling it might not go through, and hope this keeps up. MS shouldn’t be allowed to buy any more publishers in the industry. Frankly, even Bethesda was a sketchy deal.
Re: Rumour: FromSoftware's Armored Core 6 Could Be Coming Sooner Than You Think
I’m excited. I’d love to see a From game that isn’t a Souls game. I hope they don’t inject Souls into honestly. I want something different, and I don’t remember the bit of old AC I played having any Souls like elements aside from being hard.
Re: Surprise! Guerrilla Games Pretty Much Confirms Horizon 3
I'd rather have something new TBH. I enjoyed what I played of the first one, but haven't felt like picking up the new one (also didn't finish the first) and would rather see something new now.
Re: Can You Put a Price on a Quality RPG? Yes, and It's Rising All the Time
@SplooshDmg Agreed, it used to be special, and now it's just too common to mean anything and often should not be the case.
Re: Can You Put a Price on a Quality RPG? Yes, and It's Rising All the Time
@UltimateOtaku91 If they cut almost half the game in GoW:R, I'd feel my money would better spent as the game is great, but a horrible offender for padding where what you're doing feels so gamified and pointless it's insane. Almost everything in that game takes longer than it needs to.
Re: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor PS5 Physical Copies Require a Download to Play
This really shouldn’t be allowed. This is just ridiculous.
Re: Sony Acquires Firewalk Studios, New Team Behind Innovative Multiplayer IP
But but you see, Sony bought/former a single studio without a history of multiplat games, they’re just like MS buying out an entire publisher that out all their games on all platforms!
(Sarcasm notice)
Re: Pokémon Go's Niantic Is Making an AR Monster Hunter Game
@NEStalgia This may convince me to download it lol. Just the cats.
Re: Hogwarts Legacy, PS5's Spellbinding Harry Potter Spin-Off, Massively Exceeded Sales Expectations
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Re: Ghostwire: Tokyo Is 'Quantifiably' Better on PS5 Than Xbox Series X|S, Says Digital Foundry
It ran very well on PS5 at launch. Maybe minor issues, but I don’t actually remember any of them. I hope the new update didn’t hurt performance.
Re: The Lord of the Rings: Gollum Studio Clarifies 'Paywalled' Voice Acting DLC
@zupertramp a better example would be animations and and having more than a few announcer lines be I locked behind a paywall. Part of what makes RDR2 is small touched you won’t say make the game great, but you notice subconsciously.
This is a basic part of the world, and it’s not savings you money, it’s nickel-and-diming.
And those MTs are dumb too. I hate deluxe addition stuff like that.
An example of saving money would be this.
You have a visual novel releasing on Steam. The adult content is locked behind a paywall. Let’s the VN costs $10, the adult content $5. Some people get mad about that. The game would just be $15 if they made the adult content free.
Now me, I don’t want the adult content. I’m not willing to play with the porn in there so it irreparably hames me experience with the game. So that decision saves me $5. That’s an example of the saving money by locking something being a paywall, but I don’t think it compares.
Re: The Lord of the Rings: Gollum Studio Clarifies 'Paywalled' Voice Acting DLC
@zupertramp Considering the game is not looking amazing already, yes. And also, casuals will notice even if they think they don't. These things add up and make an experience. Small details affect how we feel about different media even when we don't articulate it.
Re: The Lord of the Rings: Gollum Studio Clarifies 'Paywalled' Voice Acting DLC
That's insane. This is why small things like this, cosmetic or otherwise, are just cancer.
Re: Random: The Last of Us Is Finally an FPS in Jaw-Dropping PC Mod
@AdamNovice @TheArt @kyleforrester87 What about Moss? The mouse is the protagonist, and you see her through the eyes of the entity helping, in addition to reading a book. I think that qualifies.
Re: PSVR2 Sales May Actually Be Stronger Than Has Been Suggested
I do agree with sales slowing down though. They must have gone through most people willing to buy one through direct. I really want one, but as this much time has passed as I wait for retail, some of my urge to have is gone. I'm still getting one immediately if goes on sale at GameStop, but I'm unsure still weather I'll get one from Direct before then by giving in. I do hope they see the direct idea as a failure though. Don't do that with the PS6.
Re: PSVR2 Sales May Actually Be Stronger Than Has Been Suggested
@GrimReaper There's no reason to believe that it won't receive at least as much support as PSVR from Sony, and reason to think third-parties will have an easier time bringing games to it and will do so more often. We should see more support than PSVR1 overall at the least.
Re: Preview: Single Player Spell-Based FPS Immortals of Aveum Looks Like Pure PS5 Magic
This look really cool. It needs to have some good dualsense implementation though, it looks just perfect for the game.
this could also be really cool in VR too.
Re: Resident Evil 4's PS5, PS4 Sales in the UK Leave Xbox to the Los Ganados
@nomither6 Stuff like the dualsense and other things like that come from console and console standardization. Not PC being fragmented. The limit of consoles is also what breaks limits.
Re: Resident Evil 4's PS5, PS4 Sales in the UK Leave Xbox to the Los Ganados
@JB_Whiting Maybe some of us can have some good fun with the thumbnail and puns? It's interesting stuff. If you don't view it through a console warrior lens it becomes amusing instead of bait.
Re: Resident Evil 4's PS5, PS4 Sales in the UK Leave Xbox to the Los Ganados
@nomither6 You mean where it costs a lot more, lacks the same innovation, and games often don't work? Nope, I prefer not to imagine playing on a PC for the most part.
Re: Naughty Dog Gives PS5 Some Love in New The Last of Us: Part I Patch
And that’s some, rather light content…. I suppose it’s a nice touch.
Re: Naughty Dog Gives PS5 Some Love in New The Last of Us: Part I Patch
@tselliot PS5 version is very technically sound.
Re: Hot Wheels Unleashed Boosts Past 2 Million Copies Sold
Not bad.
Now, let’s get another Hot Wheels Velocity X, that was would excite me.
Re: Pavlov VR, Switchback, and Kayak VR Among PSVR2's Most Popular Games
I’m glad Pavlov is up here as it needs to be selling to keep a strong playerbase.