MattBoothDev

Or you'd go to Very and get the older disc version for £379.99

@rachetmarvel

For £200 😐

I predict a lot of scalpers holding these and losing money.

@__jamiie give it a rest, kid

@WolfyTn
>what’s a Wastelander to do?

Completely ignore it and rue Microsoft for ruining the franchise with exclusivity.

You mean they didn't just get the chequebook out and start buying successful IP?

I'll just be getting the normal version. I haven't gotten any of the special editions of the previous games and that's not a box I want to open, as I'll need the others as well and that'll cost me £££

Imagine there was no physical media to compete with UK digital prices on PlayStation.

This is where Sony and Microsoft want to nudge the industry

Eh, the end result is the same.

I've just bought Cyberpunk for £14 on PS4, which has the free upgrade for PS5. I don't see the point in spending the £40 or so that it's up for on PSN for a PS5 copy

How about...

A combination of the Xbox Series S, Steam Deck and Switch?

A Portable PlayStation that's a new SKU that sits alongside the mainline PS (let's say PlayStation 6) so that all games developed need two builds, one for portable and one for the dedicated console. Build similar to the Steam Deck, price to match.

Make it dockable with the mainline console like a Switch?

Either way, there's a market for a good Sony handheld that plays games. The Vita was great, albeit a bit underpowered for the day it was released. Most Vitas can comfortably overclock with custom firmware, with battery draw being the limiting factor.

Now there's the Steam Deck and Switch showing that there's a portable form factor emerging and it's working well. Something, imho, both the PSP and PS Vita suffered with. The PSP was a bit small in the hands and had only one joystick. The PS Vita had two but they were really small and it was hard to hold for long sessions.

Sony have figured out that just slapping a display in the middle of a controller actually works really well. Now imagine it had a bit more cooling and some better hardware, bigger battery, some storage options, HDR display, nice speakers. Make them digital only, no need to ship cartridges, however nice they are.

I might try Balders's Gate ahead of my pre-order of the physical edition but I maintain these trials should be available to anyone with a PS Plus account. Not Premium only

Tekken 6 is probably the best new addition but it's also just an emulated version of the PSP game

@sword_9mm it's... More like 20-30 hours depending on your level of completionism. You're in for a treat, though!

The price is a pleasant surprise. It's exactly where it should be, but a pleasant surprise none the less.

Looks like I'll be replaying TLOU2 in January!

@viktorcode yeah, sure, but even at £200 it's overpriced for what it is. The display isn't OLED, for instance. A Switch is about £50-80 more and that does way more. R&D costs on this are going to be low. They've already developed the dual sense controller. They've already developed the smaller controller sticks. They've already developed the Remote Play software.

They've literally taken lots of parts and put it together. Not saying it's a shoddy job or corners were cut... Just that even with R&D and the very minimal marketing they've done here, they're definitely making money per unit.

However, obviously £200 wasn't that bad since they've sold 🤷‍♂️ but it's out of my range for such a device. Especially since I've used remote play before and this doesn't seem to stop the lag!

@Martijn87 that and it's likely that their pipeline can build for PS5 and PC, so if they're going to port TLOU2 to PC, they'll get a PS5 build relatively hassle free.

@GamingFan4Lyf I think if a game runs at 30FPS and could happily push 60FPS with minimal effort then expecting that for free is fine.

If it costs a month's worth of development or more then it's fair to ask a small price, like £10, for the upgrade. Developers aren't cheap. There's a lot of people in a game dev pipeline.

That said, this also, for me, depends on how recently the game was released.

For instance, I'd happily pay £10 for a Red Dead Redemption 2 patch on PS5.

Yeah, but, I'm not paying £70 for it. I did that with the "Part 1" "Remake" and that fell extremely short of my opinion of a remake and it was worth £50, max.

@Vega37 how is it true that "The amount of money spent for the amount of entertainment received is far beyond most people's purchases." And yet a game like Grand Theft Auto 5 can make a billion in sales on launch day, at the purchase price most people paid?

I don't know why anyone supports any one particular business or another, that they aren't personally invested in.

All businesses went to increase their prices and make their customers pay more. All of them.

Therefore the consumer's aim is to get the lowest price possible so you have more money for other things.

So why anyone would ever argue that games could cost a bit more and they'd be happy with that is beyond me. Games already cost too much to buy and they should cost less. Prices and features should be regulated. Gambling and money laundering (digital currency) should be banned.

@EfYI Mmm, the problem is, actually, a few (not the many) complained about the game. Not everyone is terminally online and engaged in comments sections or Reddit. We are in the echo chamber of the internet right now. Don't mistake a vocal minority as a majority.

It's not that polarising. You're well within your rights to complain about it. But the facts don't stack up in favour of what you're saying. Critically and commercially acclaimed, won over 320 awards from writing, directing, sound, music and performance.

If narrative decisions are enough to undo all that, for you personally, then it's just a great job you're not on the awards committee for things like this.

Just remember that people who are pissed off are much more likely to go online and complain or leave a bad review than someone who's happy is likely to go leave a good review. Meaning that bad reviews often seem higher than good reviews. It's a well studied psychology.

@OmegaStriver I didn't say they retired? Just that they're older and been at the company a long time.

You could also infer that wanted a change of scenery of pace, the same reason most people seek change. Like John Carmack wanting to work on VR and leaving id Software to do so, the company he helped build.

@Chaosbros you could say the same about any game auture/director, like Hideo Kojima (who also deserved his accolade).

@EfYI The Last of Us Part 2 was critically acclaimed and won numerous awards. "Many" actually did not hate the game. It made a profit on it's first day, despite the few months of leaks and a politically motivated hate campaign.

You are suffering from the false consensus effect, where you vastly overestimate how much your opinion is actually shared.

@OmegaStriver they're all a bit older than him and had been at the company a long time. I don't think you can infer anything from that

A well deserved award. We've been playing games he's been involved with for over 10 years and each one has been award winning.

I'm not paying £20 postage 😂

Another poll needed "How have you found the performance of Remote Play?"

For me, poor. Very poor.

@Impossibilium I agree, I was just adding some extra info!

It took far too long to get SD2PSV cards on the market. They're a godsend, really. I have a 64GB PS Vita memory card that's on the fritz, but a 128GB SD in place instead. Cheaper to replace!

@Stevemalkpus yes, I'd spotted the 3.5mm jack and have some other headphones I'd planned to use but having looked at my Pulse 3D headset just now I have noticed the 3.5mm jack on it 😂 I've just been using the dongle!

Also, I have a Pulse 3D headset which I don't think would work with this, which is a shame.

@Impossibilium Sony were instrumental in developing DVD and CD, both of which they included on their platforms. MiniDisc is still used in Japan.

The reason Sony develop these formats is because they're actually good at it and occasionally they catch on, or the IP is useful one way or another.

Yeah, well, there's no way this thing costs £200 to make.

And I do not understand why they have even bothered adding internet enabled remote play. It's not going to be a good experience for most people. LAN? Sure. WAN? Pointless.

I've heard of a handful of these

>Considering the sunny resort destination of Costa del Sol is on the itinerary, we wouldn't be surprised if Square Enix decided to explore the lucrative world of swimwear DLC.

Jesus Christ.

Hopefully those words don't appear in the same sentence.

@AndyKazama what Twitter plans to do now is moot. Unless Musk sells up and leaves, Twitter will always be a shadow of it's former self.

I like the PS5. I think it should've had a price cut by now, though. They've just made it easier to produce and with less materials and were selling the previous model for almost £100 off a few weeks back.

I am disappointed with the PS VR2. The wire is annoying. There's been no killer releases this year, after launch. A lot of ports. Not even an Astrobot game.

They killed the PS Plus Collection and the free games for people that bought a PS5. This is bad.

Which brings me to the good things, Astro's Playroom is great and they should be doing this more. Storage is standardised and not propitiatory. There seems to have been way more software updates of consequence to the PS5 than there was to the PS4. For instance, 120hz, ALLM, Dolby Atmos, etc.

I've held off for a physical release!

@Member_the_game yeah, thing is, I have to admit, my PS5 is on the main TV and the kids are often watching TV on it, or playing on the PS5 themselves. I can, and have, but it's hassle, taken the PS5 into my office on my 1440p monitor.

So, something like the PS Portal would be good for when the kids are watching TV. But the price is off putting.

@Member_the_game

Nah I get it. I don't hate PC gaming (some of my best friends are PC gamers! /joke) I used to play pc primarily up until a couple of years ago. I was ready for a GPU upgrade around about the time prices went through the roof after scalping. Nvidia released a £550 GPU, which was scalped over £1,000 and then Nvidia simply raised their prices to match.

I was already playing PS4 a lot anyway at the time so I managed to bag a PS5 at retail price and haven't bothered with PC gaming since.

I will say that for the most part PC gaming is just fine if you get decent enough hardware from the onset. I bought an i7-6700k and GTX1080 and that held up 1080p@60FPS max settings in most games. My only reason for upgrading was having been given a decent 1440p monitor from work and the GTX1080 struggled with pushing 60FPS in more demanding games

But, for the most part, games automatically detected hardware and appropriate settings and the Geforce Experience app from Nvidia died a decent job at picking the best settings for most games, if you used it.

So I don't expect there's much tinkering needing to be done with a Steam Deck, but it'll be there if you want it.

However, my point was for a bit more money you can get your hands on a vastly superior device and the the pricing of the PS Portal is a bit high.

@Member_the_game your first Instincts were right. It's way overpriced for what it actually is and does. It's £200. Another £100 and you should be able to find a Steam Deck, which is way more with the money.

Too bad it's about £100 overpriced for what it is and what it is not.

I would've been falling over myself to preorder a PS Vita successor. I've actively ignored this thing's existence.

Yeah because publishers are publishing without physical releases more often, since no one can trade is resell those.

You can get it on PS4 with a free upgrade for £14, so...?

@Zuljaras According to Wikipedia, Miles Morales sold 6.5 million in total.

I'll call it Twitter until the day I die, honestly.

And how can he stop them, exactly? Who was actually using that feature anyway? Who's still using Twitter?

@Lup TLOU P1 was definitely earlier, but do we count that as a proper release?

@Yaycandy yeah, can't argue it's made loads of money but they won't get anything from me. I'll be holding out for way more info with GTA6. Rockstar did an amazing job on the storyline for GTA5

My excitement is metred by the fact that Rockstar pulled all singleplayer DLC for GTA5 so they could put it into the online mode, which is basically an MTX storefront for fake money you can only spend in game.

If that sounds incredibly reductive, I agree, but also, GTA Online is ***** and I hate it and everything about it.