If the Xbox was more compelling and selling better, Sony might have a fire up their rear end and decide to cut the cost to move more units, but that's not an issue for them.
I won't be paying £500-700 for a PS5 Pro. If they price it there, then it becomes unreasonable.
The PS5 is currently really overpriced at £480. It should've come down significantly by now. When they were clearing the old disc stock at £380, that was the price or should've been and should be right now.
Even if the Pro means games can run 4k@60 within "Fidelity" mode, it's going to depend heavily on studios patching games to work properly, which means it won't happen.
@djhegzy there's better looking games that perform better, though . Neither one of those FF games look that good, though to warrant the poor performance - just shoddy work in my eyes.
Helldivers 1 was never released on Xbox and was almost entirely a PlayStation game. Sony published and funded Helldivers 2.
Why should it be on Xbox?
This isn't like Doom or Fallout, which are/were multiplatform titles. This isn't "console wars". Buying up two large publishers and making their IP exclusive is console wars.
I may buy when it's vastly cheaper. They've added simple controls and you can be matched with someone online who's using that scheme. It's like playing someone button mashing one of the capoeira characters.
The original control scheme is one of the reasons Tekken is better than any other fighting game and I will die on the hill saying they didn't need the fisher price scheme.
So long as he remembers that one of the things that made Metal Gear really successful was the gameplay loop and the story exposition via long cut scenes.
MGS5 had the gameplay loop sorted but was seriously lacking in story quality and exposition. The tapes were not enough. They were severely lacking and the storyline wasn't good. Forgetting that the Konami "Survive" thing even exists, MGS5 is easily the weakest in the series in terms of storyline.
Death Stranding as a storyline didn't really grab me and felt, being honest, worse than MGS5.
Sega have also reported to be making around $5bn a year now, which has increased.
The problem is these corporations think they need to make more profits each year. It's driving inflation through the roof and then analysts blame employee wage growth for inflation and not soaring corporate profits.
What needs to happen is corporations, on the backs of ever increasing profits, need to take a hit to the percentages for a few years, rather than people taking real-terms wage cuts.
The poll was totally broken. A lot of the games in the list were not Xbox games.
Fallout, Doom, TES, etc are NOT Xbox games. They're games that are potentially being held hostage by Microsoft, but they're not Xbox games. Fable, Halo and Gears of War are examples of a Xbox games.
@UltimateOtaku91 >I honestly don't see it happening now, the amount of saltiness and crying online from xbox fans and the abuse Microsoft are getting on social media will force them to backtrack on their plans.
I've found that the exact same people throwing their toys out of their pram over this were the exact same people gleefully rubbing it in people's faces that their favourite multiplatform games were going to be Xbox exclusive.
So watching them have the mother of all tantrums is absolutely amazing.
Microsoft aren't leaving the hardware market. They're just going to keep publishing Zenimax games and Activision games on PlayStation.
Xbox fanboys were utterly gleeful at Xbox taking a large chunk of games away from PlayStation players. Now that doesn't look like the case they're throwing their toys out of the pram and overreacting, saying it's the end of Xbox. Kinda pathetic.
@Shushibda He was riding high at that point, though, when he said that.
I think the fiscal reality has set in that they can't afford to cull their publisher revenue and maintain that profitability, because clearly, given Starfield, people aren't buying Xbox for these exclusives (though, if Starfield had been good, that might've been a different matter).
Xbox fanboys have been throwing all their toys out of the pram over this.
They were gleeful that multiplatform games would be taken away and put exclusively on Xbox.
Now it looks like those multiplatform games will remain so, they're saying it's the end of days for the Xbox and are really sad that they won't be able to lord these multiplatform titles over Sony users.
The reality is they bought two massive publishers who publish widely across various platforms and get their revenue that way. If they started publishing only on Xbox, they'd shatter those those revenue streams and their ability to make money from these businesses.
So, it never made any sense for them to start taking away games to their platform, if they still wanted to make money.
I suspect the announcement will be time exclusivity on these multiplatform games and that they are still going to be publishing first party titles exclusively to Xbox.
@naruball it didn't help that Sony abandoned marketing it pretty much straight away, though.
One issue with the console was the performance was terrible. I've home-brewed mine and a small overclock makes Uncharted: Golden Abyss pretty much run at 60FPS and a lot more enjoyable.
The form factor was unfortunate as well. The sticks were hard to grip with the console and the touch pad on the back was more of a hinderence. I find the PSP easier to hold, despite it being smaller.
But I still maintain that with bigger pushes from experienced studios we could've had a much better experience in the end.
In the end mine became a portable PS1 emulator.
Edit:
I think the resurgence of desire for a handheld these days is at least something to do with how utterly abysmal the mobile gaming market is these days. There aren't any mobile games worth playing anymore.
Vita was a great console ruined by lack of support from Sony.
PlayStation VR2 is a great bit of kit, ruined by lack of support from Sony.
PlayStation Portal is a nice bit of kit, but massively overpriced and doesn't actually do what most people wanted it to do.
Now there's plans for another portable that... Doesn't do what most people want it to do and relies entirely on third parties spending money to support it.
It's got all the markers for another dumpster fire 😞
Personally, I would like to see a Vita 2 with a unique selling point, able to play it's own library of games, that can also play PS4/PS5 as described in this article. A Switch-like dock would be essential as well. What that unique selling point is, I don't know, but it needs to be more than just a miniature PS5 that can play some games that have been patched.
@StylesT Hilarious, accuses others of not thinking for themselves but didn't bother to find out for themselves it's not a singleplayer game before buying it.
It's a fully priced live service game that has additional MTX. That's all I need to know to know it can get in the sea.
@vrubayka Sure, I'll keep an eye out for a deal. I got Cyberpunk 2077 "Ultimate" for £33 from TheGameCollection on launch, which was at much as the Phantom Liberty DLC from PSN.
Urgh, they're adding more guff, it seems. The amount of time Sephiroth appeared in the normal game was fine and they really don't need to add him in extra bits where he wasn't before.
He should show up on the boat from Junon and in Cloud's flashback sequence and then, ultimately, in the forgotten capital for that bit.
Why do they need to ruin things? If he was only in 3-4 sections on this game that would be enough. It would build suspense for the next game where he's the ultimate antagonist and most of the exposition happens.
If there's one thing Cyberpunk doesn't need, at all, it's a multiplayer mode.
That's a sure fire way to ruin Project Orion. I sincerely hope they don't add that crap in.
Cyberpunk is a brilliant singleplayer narrative experience and either adding co-op will ruin the gameplay loop and experience or adding the multiplayer mode will take resources from the singleplayer experience.
They made $1.5bn on Cyberpunk. Don't mess with that.
@Terra_Custodes yes! You can win it. I thought you were supposed to lose, at first, but it's winnable. You must get the Jecht Shot from the boat ride flashback. It knocks their goalie out when taking a shot. If you can score a few times in the first half, you can just play for time in the second half until you win.
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Re: Upgraded PS5 Pro Planning to Be the Best Place to Play GTA 6
@themightyant Considering I paid £430 in 2021, then £410 is terrible in 2024.
£380 in 2023 was the right price but it was only temporary.
Re: Upgraded PS5 Pro Planning to Be the Best Place to Play GTA 6
@Fyz306903 yeah, I'm not going to 😞
If the Xbox was more compelling and selling better, Sony might have a fire up their rear end and decide to cut the cost to move more units, but that's not an issue for them.
Re: Upgraded PS5 Pro Planning to Be the Best Place to Play GTA 6
I won't be paying £500-700 for a PS5 Pro. If they price it there, then it becomes unreasonable.
The PS5 is currently really overpriced at £480. It should've come down significantly by now. When they were clearing the old disc stock at £380, that was the price or should've been and should be right now.
Even if the Pro means games can run 4k@60 within "Fidelity" mode, it's going to depend heavily on studios patching games to work properly, which means it won't happen.
Re: Upgraded PS5 Pro Planning to Be the Best Place to Play GTA 6
@djhegzy there's better looking games that perform better, though . Neither one of those FF games look that good, though to warrant the poor performance - just shoddy work in my eyes.
Re: Xbox Fans Petitioning for Helldivers 2 to Launch on Xbox
Helldivers 1 was never released on Xbox and was almost entirely a PlayStation game. Sony published and funded Helldivers 2.
Why should it be on Xbox?
This isn't like Doom or Fallout, which are/were multiplatform titles. This isn't "console wars". Buying up two large publishers and making their IP exclusive is console wars.
Re: Tekken 8 Exceeds Bandai Namco's Expectations, Tops 2 Million Sales
I may buy when it's vastly cheaper. They've added simple controls and you can be matched with someone online who's using that scheme. It's like playing someone button mashing one of the capoeira characters.
The original control scheme is one of the reasons Tekken is better than any other fighting game and I will die on the hill saying they didn't need the fisher price scheme.
Re: Kojima: Your Mother Won't Be Able to Tell the Difference Between PHYSINT and a Movie
So long as he remembers that one of the things that made Metal Gear really successful was the gameplay loop and the story exposition via long cut scenes.
MGS5 had the gameplay loop sorted but was seriously lacking in story quality and exposition. The tapes were not enough. They were severely lacking and the storyline wasn't good. Forgetting that the Konami "Survive" thing even exists, MGS5 is easily the weakest in the series in terms of storyline.
Death Stranding as a storyline didn't really grab me and felt, being honest, worse than MGS5.
Re: SEGA Issues Financial Warning After 'Sluggish' Sales Over Holiday Period
Sega have also reported to be making around $5bn a year now, which has increased.
The problem is these corporations think they need to make more profits each year. It's driving inflation through the roof and then analysts blame employee wage growth for inflation and not soaring corporate profits.
What needs to happen is corporations, on the backs of ever increasing profits, need to take a hit to the percentages for a few years, rather than people taking real-terms wage cuts.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of the Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Demo?
It's ok.
I'm probably buy it day one, though. I've run out of things to play 🤷♂️
Re: PS5, PS4 First-Party Devs Won't Get Complacent Even if Competition Degrades
@Stickleman not from what I've seen
Re: Readers Vote Gears of War Above Halo as Their Most Wanted Xbox Series on PlayStation
@Toot1st Nope. All those games are multiplatform.
Re: Readers Vote Gears of War Above Halo as Their Most Wanted Xbox Series on PlayStation
@Loamy your are 100% right. It's not "entitlement" either. They are all multiplatform games taken over by Microsoft, not Xbox games.
Re: Readers Vote Gears of War Above Halo as Their Most Wanted Xbox Series on PlayStation
The poll was totally broken. A lot of the games in the list were not Xbox games.
Fallout, Doom, TES, etc are NOT Xbox games. They're games that are potentially being held hostage by Microsoft, but they're not Xbox games. Fable, Halo and Gears of War are examples of a Xbox games.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Remastered Europe's Best-Selling New Game of January, PS5 Sales Up
@DennisReynolds only the terminally online and politically rabid.
It's one of Naughty Dog's best selling games. It's in the top 10 top selling PlayStation games, as well.
Re: Ubisoft CEO Defends Skull and Bones Premium $70 Pricetag, Insists It's 'AAAA' Quality
@Danloaded I hear Jim's voice every time I read "live services" and is half the reason I put it in quotes.
I cannot stand GaaS. It's one of a few things that's just terrible about the gaming industry.
Re: Ubisoft CEO Defends Skull and Bones Premium $70 Pricetag, Insists It's 'AAAA' Quality
Live service?
At full price?
Lol. No thanks.
Re: Poll: Which Xbox Franchises Would You Buy on PS5?
Far too many of the choices are NOT Xbox games so this poll isn't worth filling out.
Doom, Fallout, Rage, Dishonored, Prey, TES, etc are not Xbox games.
Halo, Forza, Gears of War, Age of Empires, Quantum Break, Sea of Thieves are all Xbox games.
We all know what the difference is.
Re: Poll: How Do You Feel About All of the Xbox Multiplatform Rumours?
@UltimateOtaku91
>I honestly don't see it happening now, the amount of saltiness and crying online from xbox fans and the abuse Microsoft are getting on social media will force them to backtrack on their plans.
I've found that the exact same people throwing their toys out of their pram over this were the exact same people gleefully rubbing it in people's faces that their favourite multiplatform games were going to be Xbox exclusive.
So watching them have the mother of all tantrums is absolutely amazing.
Re: Poll: How Do You Feel About All of the Xbox Multiplatform Rumours?
@IamJT A lot of us are still mad at Microsoft for trying to kill preowned games with the Xbox One. I had no trust in them after that.
Plus, having worked with Microsoft, they're a terrible company filled with people who don't actually care about gaming, just $$$.
Re: Poll: How Do You Feel About All of the Xbox Multiplatform Rumours?
It depends what you consider an "Xbox game".
I will never consider Fallout, Doom and The Elder Scrolls as Xbox games. Just because Microsoft bought the publisher, doesn't make them Xbox games.
My whole issue with the Microsoft acquisition of Zenimax and Activision was that they'd take these multiplatform games to Xbox.
If that was what was going to happen, I wasn't going to be buying any of them and some of them are my favourite games.
The answer given was "lol buy an xbox then" from fanboys, but, on a matter of principle, that wasn't an option.
I have no interest in any of the actual Xbox exclusives like Halo and Forza.
Re: Sounds Like Naughty Dog's Next Game Won't Be The Last of Us 3
@MrMayhem they can't. Someone, somewhere, will want MTX shoved into it and it'll suck all the fun out of the gameplay loop.
Re: Sounds Like Naughty Dog's Next Game Won't Be The Last of Us 3
I'm glad they cancelled the live service madness. No one wanted that.
Re: PS5, PS4 First-Party Devs Won't Get Complacent Even if Competition Degrades
Microsoft aren't leaving the hardware market. They're just going to keep publishing Zenimax games and Activision games on PlayStation.
Xbox fanboys were utterly gleeful at Xbox taking a large chunk of games away from PlayStation players. Now that doesn't look like the case they're throwing their toys out of the pram and overreacting, saying it's the end of Xbox. Kinda pathetic.
Re: Microsoft Has Apparently Been Stocking Up on PS5 Devkits as Xbox Pivots
@Shushibda He was riding high at that point, though, when he said that.
I think the fiscal reality has set in that they can't afford to cull their publisher revenue and maintain that profitability, because clearly, given Starfield, people aren't buying Xbox for these exclusives (though, if Starfield had been good, that might've been a different matter).
Re: Microsoft Has Apparently Been Stocking Up on PS5 Devkits as Xbox Pivots
Xbox fanboys have been throwing all their toys out of the pram over this.
They were gleeful that multiplatform games would be taken away and put exclusively on Xbox.
Now it looks like those multiplatform games will remain so, they're saying it's the end of days for the Xbox and are really sad that they won't be able to lord these multiplatform titles over Sony users.
The reality is they bought two massive publishers who publish widely across various platforms and get their revenue that way. If they started publishing only on Xbox, they'd shatter those those revenue streams and their ability to make money from these businesses.
So, it never made any sense for them to start taking away games to their platform, if they still wanted to make money.
I suspect the announcement will be time exclusivity on these multiplatform games and that they are still going to be publishing first party titles exclusively to Xbox.
Re: Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered Has Almost 300 Trophies, But Zero PS5 Platinums
Still no sign of a physical release, so I'll be giving this a miss until they sort that out.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for February 2024?
@Bagwag82 I will be cancelling Premium. The Extra tier is 100% worth it.
Re: Rumour: A New PlayStation Handheld Console Reportedly in the Works
@naruball it didn't help that Sony abandoned marketing it pretty much straight away, though.
One issue with the console was the performance was terrible. I've home-brewed mine and a small overclock makes Uncharted: Golden Abyss pretty much run at 60FPS and a lot more enjoyable.
The form factor was unfortunate as well. The sticks were hard to grip with the console and the touch pad on the back was more of a hinderence. I find the PSP easier to hold, despite it being smaller.
But I still maintain that with bigger pushes from experienced studios we could've had a much better experience in the end.
In the end mine became a portable PS1 emulator.
Edit:
I think the resurgence of desire for a handheld these days is at least something to do with how utterly abysmal the mobile gaming market is these days. There aren't any mobile games worth playing anymore.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for February 2024?
Each month I just have to vote "none of them".
Not even sure why I've got PS Plus at this point.
Re: Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League (PS5) - Rocksteady's Big Gamble Just About Pays Off
@LazyLombax if they don't give it a favourable review they'll probably stop getting free review codes.
Re: Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League (PS5) - Rocksteady's Big Gamble Just About Pays Off
Absolutely zero interest in this game.
Reasons why:
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Demands Nearly 150GB of PS5 Storage Space
What a joke these large filesizes are.
I thought Sony had some library that can reduce filesizes down? Did everyone just abandon that?
Re: Rumour: A New PlayStation Handheld Console Reportedly in the Works
Sony just don't get it 🫤
Vita was a great console ruined by lack of support from Sony.
PlayStation VR2 is a great bit of kit, ruined by lack of support from Sony.
PlayStation Portal is a nice bit of kit, but massively overpriced and doesn't actually do what most people wanted it to do.
Now there's plans for another portable that... Doesn't do what most people want it to do and relies entirely on third parties spending money to support it.
It's got all the markers for another dumpster fire 😞
Personally, I would like to see a Vita 2 with a unique selling point, able to play it's own library of games, that can also play PS4/PS5 as described in this article. A Switch-like dock would be essential as well. What that unique selling point is, I don't know, but it needs to be more than just a miniature PS5 that can play some games that have been patched.
Re: Insomniac Devs Forced to Speak Out Against Social Media Abuse Over the Lack of Spider-Man 2 Updates
The people doing this should be found and banned from owning a game console for the rest of their (miserable) life.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League?
@StylesT Hilarious, accuses others of not thinking for themselves but didn't bother to find out for themselves it's not a singleplayer game before buying it.
It's a fully priced live service game that has additional MTX. That's all I need to know to know it can get in the sea.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League?
Lol no
It's a fully priced "live service" with egregious additional monetisation on top of the initial purchase.
That alone is enough to know it's completely rubbish and unworthy of anyone's time/money.
Re: Resident Evil 4 Gold PS5 Getting Physical Release, But Only in Europe
@vrubayka Sure, I'll keep an eye out for a deal. I got Cyberpunk 2077 "Ultimate" for £33 from TheGameCollection on launch, which was at much as the Phantom Liberty DLC from PSN.
If I can find a similar deal I'll go for it.
Re: Resident Evil 4 Gold PS5 Getting Physical Release, But Only in Europe
@K1LLEGAL "Digital is the way to go these days anyway"
Not according to Capcom and a physical release is always better then a digital release, in my eyes.
Re: Resident Evil 4 Gold PS5 Getting Physical Release, But Only in Europe
@vrubayka me? I haven't bought RE4 yet and will be buying it physically when I do, so this is up my street, if the price is right.
Re: Resident Evil 4 Remake Sells 6.48 Million Units to Become the Series' Fastest-Selling Game
I'm still waiting for the price to drop
Re: Square Enix Talks Reimagining Aerith and Sephiroth for Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth on PS5
Urgh, they're adding more guff, it seems. The amount of time Sephiroth appeared in the normal game was fine and they really don't need to add him in extra bits where he wasn't before.
He should show up on the boat from Junon and in Cloud's flashback sequence and then, ultimately, in the forgotten capital for that bit.
Why do they need to ruin things? If he was only in 3-4 sections on this game that would be enough. It would build suspense for the next game where he's the ultimate antagonist and most of the exposition happens.
Re: Final Fantasy 7's Tifa in Tekken 8? Harada Wants You All to Chill Out
No thanks. These crossovers genuinely suck and devalue the experience.
Re: Roguelike Poker Game Balatro Raises the Stakes with PS5, PS4 Release in February
Is Rogue-like the new buzz word?
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Remake Story Recap the Focus of New Trailer
3 minutes is about right when you remove all the filler and rubbish
Re: Rec Room Dev 'Can't Justify' a PSVR2 Port
@Godot25 it matters to me, since I don't play F2P games or buy any microtransactions.
But yeah, given the presumably small PSVR2 install base (likely from the exorbitant price) it's a hard sell altogether.
But for me, seeing anything that's a "free" game paid for with MTX, it's a hard, hard pass.
Re: Rec Room Dev 'Can't Justify' a PSVR2 Port
@Godot25 yeah, to be fair, though, this is a F2P game supported by MTX, which is a very hard sell.
Re: Rec Room Dev 'Can't Justify' a PSVR2 Port
>The free game is supported by microtransactions.
Makes sense, then, because I wouldn't have played it, based on that information, anyway.
Re: CD Projekt Red Dabbling in AI, Considering Multiplayer for Cyberpunk 2
If there's one thing Cyberpunk doesn't need, at all, it's a multiplayer mode.
That's a sure fire way to ruin Project Orion. I sincerely hope they don't add that crap in.
Cyberpunk is a brilliant singleplayer narrative experience and either adding co-op will ruin the gameplay loop and experience or adding the multiplayer mode will take resources from the singleplayer experience.
They made $1.5bn on Cyberpunk. Don't mess with that.
Re: No Snowboarding in Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, But Expect Revamped CPR Minigame on PS5
@Terra_Custodes yes! You can win it. I thought you were supposed to lose, at first, but it's winnable. You must get the Jecht Shot from the boat ride flashback. It knocks their goalie out when taking a shot. If you can score a few times in the first half, you can just play for time in the second half until you win.
Re: No Snowboarding in Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, But Expect Revamped CPR Minigame on PS5
@Terra_Custodes I could never mix the team up, I always stuck with the Besaid Aurochs original team!