They missed a trick with this and PS Plus Premium.
Had they made all content free to Premium subs out would've been great value to the increased prices for the subscriptions, but 100 free items is terrible. Almost insulting.
I've actually had a £20 wallet redemption recently from all the points I've collected. Not bad really.
Some of the redemption offers are ridiculous, though. 20,000 points is either a £20 wallet card or a £15 game? You may as well get the card and buy the game (netting you more points) and have £5 left over.
I have no problems with AI performing boring, repetitive tasks that developers have to do. I use ChatGPT to automate many of my development tasks and it's often a very good code reviewer.
But for creative roles or things like this? I would prefer a real person.
Now, with the advent of live AI VR Skyrim type mods, there's definitely a case for generative voice AI responses of NPCs and characters, but those should be trained specifically on the actor's voice and care taken so that it can't be abused and used for NPCs or non-scripted dialogue.
There's a real danger that publishers and studios use this to avoid hiring a real person and basically doing things cheaply so they can extract more money. Which is going to suck for everyone.
Of course, just pay an extra £7.99 per character and get early access to the early access trailer for the next DLC character (^sold separately^).
I'm sure they're great but it's really hard to get excited about new character releases and things like that without remembering it's going to cost me, somehow.
What market conditions? They have a monopoly on this service on this platform. They own the market. There's no competition.
They increased the price when they introduced the new tiers, Extra and Premium. This further increase with ZERO improvement to the service forthcoming is ridiculous. I let my Premium sub continue in May, despite being pissed off about it for most of that year but the next coming renewal I will be "downgrading" to Extra and I'll be happier for it, but no better off since it costs the same as what I paid for Premium.
The new Sony Pictures Core app is laughable. You could almost forgive the £20 price increase on Premium if it came with 4K HDR Dolby Atmos movies for free via the app. But, it does not.
No problems with them streamlining their "offering".
Rather than two SKUs, they have one. This is cheaper for them to produce and reduces the complexity of their offerings.
So, why haven't they dropped the price? The old PS5 Disc Edition was sold off recently for as little as £380. Sure, to clear stock, but it's a better price and more attractive. More attractive means more new users, meaning a larger potential for PS Plus and future licensing fee revenue.
At £480 for the disc bundle, it's no better than it was before. The Blu-ray drive itself doesn't cost £100 to produce and the R&D costs for Blu-ray drives, at this point, are minuscule. They'll have had to figure out how to fit it into the the casing.
I already have a PS5 and I don't plan on getting a newer model, so this suggestion doesn't help me, but they should be charging maybe £50 for the disc add-on and the total price should be closer to the £380 we saw not too long back.
All in all, them continuing with disc usage is fine and the price is at least no more expensive then it was before.
We must keep an eye Sony and Microsoft as we enter the next generation. They want to drop discs. The publisher's want to drop discs. Thanks to lax anti-trust/consumer laws, now one of the console manufacturers is also a big publisher. They will start saying that discs are selling less (neglecting to mention they'll make the decision to publish less discs to create this argument first). Then they'll start seeding articles into the IGNs and the Kotakus about how discs suck and we need to move on and stop holding back progress, etc, with imagined benefits that will never be realised of a digital only world.
Yeah, they're slowing because less games are getting physical releases. Can't buy a game on disc if they don't publish one.
Publishers don't like physical media because it can be resold. They have a lot of incentive to kill the market. They tried with the Xbox One and that backfired immensely, so now it's happening in the sly.
Yeah I'll be cancelling Premium next May when it renews. This isn't a premium feature. I don't care about cloud gaming at all and I'd rather have some AAA exclusives to the Premium tier or maybe first access (like, the rumour that TLOU:P1 is coming to PS+).
Those are premium features. Being able to stream games isn't. It's a terrible experience and the worst way to play games.
They missed a trick with this Sony Pictures Core service, too. Perfect opportunity to justify the price increase by making a Disney+ like service that's free for Premium subscribers.
I will NOT be paying £50+ for this when I own the PS4 version and it looks and plays great on PS5. I really doubt there's anything they can do that will make it worth £50+.
@Th3solution I ended up buying Stray when it got a physical release. Mostly because I wanted to show some support for the studio, despite having it free (at the time) with PS Plus. Secondly, to support physical releases, especially of smaller indie games like this.
I obviously don't agree that example (5 minutes over 2.5 minutes) as it's nonsense. Spiderman likely has a fixed speed variable in game which determines how far he travels per tick, etc
However, I do maintain that using FPS as a computer speed measurement is still valid, as we obviously do that all the time. In the above, flawed, example, during the 5 minutes, the 60FPS machine will have rendered roughly twice as many frames as the 30FPS machine. Spiderman will have travelled roughly the same, in-game, distance on both machines.
@rusty82 your 4k TV will likely do some upscaling from the performance mode resolution outputted anyway.
I'm definitely in the same boat, but my path slightly different. I was a PC gamer for the 360/PS3 generation and only bought a PS4 for the exclusives. With the PS5 able to do 60FPS, appreciably, for most games and graphics cards costing more than a ***** runaround car, I made the move.
If a game has fancy ray tracing but it's locked to 30, or no fancy lighting and 60FPS, that's the superior way to play, for me.
@doctommaso frames per second is literally has a unit of measurement of time within it.
Speed is distance divided by time.
You could put two computers together, one faster than the other and count how many frames are rendered within a run with a set time limit and observe how the faster machine can render more within the time frame.
You then deduce that one machine runs it faster. It rendered more frames during the run. Because the time was the same for each machine, but the distance, or, the number of frames rendered, differs, letting you slot the numbers into the S = D/T equation.
Spiderman running at 60 FPS is literally running twice as fast as Spiderman running at 30FPS.
@doctommaso sure, if you're using a real camera. It'll take the subject 10 seconds to cross the field regardless of the framerate of the footage.
But for videogames, "how fast does it run?" It's answered, usually, in frames per second.
There's obviously a lot more to it than that, which Digital Foundry often go into, but for the most part someone isn't wrong if they say a game is slow to run because it's 30FPS.
@doctommaso FPS is a measurement of speed. We literally say "how fast does it run?".
Over the years, things like frame times and latency are more accurate but it's not silly to think of how fast a game runs synonymously with the frame rate.
I would've preordered now if the price had been right, but £200 for a streaming device, no HDR and wireless audio behind an additional paywall (PS Plus Premium, which I have but isn't the point)... Given the PS Vita cost me about as much and it played games, browsed the web and could remote play with the PS3 and PS4...
The form factor looks good. The (almost, slightly smaller sticks) full sized controller looks like it would improve the remote play experience, over previously mentioned methods. The price is all wrong.
It's about £75 too expensive for what it is. £199.99 is ridiculous considering it can't do much and wireless audio is locked behind an additional paywall.
Given it's using a dual sense controller (of sorts) and it should be designed around reduced latency, I'm interested, but will wait for a huge price drop.
If this was a PS Vita 2 (...of sorts) I'd already have a preorder in place.
@thefourfoldroot1 one thing that puts me off of that VR is hit and miss, so a demo is essential for a VR sale, in my books. I haven't bought any since release, in all honesty, nothing's really grabbed me.
This is overpriced. I paid £180 for a Vita and that played games and remote play. In fact, I still use it for gaming occasionally.
And to not be able to actually stream PS Now/"Premium" games either? Is it just a display and controller thrown together?! It better be a next level display for £200.
After the presser the other day regarding Tekken 8 I'm less excited about it. Looks like they're continuing the path of carving up the game into DLC chunks like Tekken 7.
Plus that special one button fighting mode was horrendous.
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Re: All PS Plus Members Handed a Movie Discount on Sony Pictures Core
They missed a trick with this and PS Plus Premium.
Had they made all content free to Premium subs out would've been great value to the increased prices for the subscriptions, but 100 free items is terrible. Almost insulting.
Re: PS Stars Guide: All Campaigns and Solutions (November 2023)
I've actually had a £20 wallet redemption recently from all the points I've collected. Not bad really.
Some of the redemption offers are ridiculous, though. 20,000 points is either a £20 wallet card or a £15 game? You may as well get the card and buy the game (netting you more points) and have £5 left over.
Re: The Finals Opted for AI Voices Because 'It Gets Us Far Enough in Terms of Quality'
I have no problems with AI performing boring, repetitive tasks that developers have to do. I use ChatGPT to automate many of my development tasks and it's often a very good code reviewer.
But for creative roles or things like this? I would prefer a real person.
Now, with the advent of live AI VR Skyrim type mods, there's definitely a case for generative voice AI responses of NPCs and characters, but those should be trained specifically on the actor's voice and care taken so that it can't be abused and used for NPCs or non-scripted dialogue.
There's a real danger that publishers and studios use this to avoid hiring a real person and basically doing things cheaply so they can extract more money. Which is going to suck for everyone.
Re: Tekken 8 Reveals Multiple Characters Joining Its Roster in Latest Trailer
Of course, just pay an extra £7.99 per character and get early access to the early access trailer for the next DLC character (^sold separately^).
I'm sure they're great but it's really hard to get excited about new character releases and things like that without remembering it's going to cost me, somehow.
Didn't used to be like this.
Re: PS5 Live-Service Game Marathon Has Reportedly Been Delayed to 2025
Go ahead and cancel it. No loss to the industry.
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection (PS5) - Three Classics in One Messy Bundle
I've bought this because I'm a sucker.
It's not worth the £55 asking price. £35 would've been better.
There's some effort gone into the ports but not enough. This should be the definitive way to play these games but, sadly, it's not.
That said, MGS3 looks great so far and plays as well as expected.
Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Fans Are Finished with the PS5 Game's $10 Halloween Fatality
I expect Tekken 8 is planning all sorts of rubbish like this as well.
I've owned every Tekken game and Tekken 8 will be the first I'm not bothered about.
Re: Sony Does a Lot Behind the Scenes to Ensure High Quality PS5 Exclusives
@trev666 I agree and yet I had zero faith in a "live service" game by them... Or anyone.
Not even Naughty Dog's attachment to any such game makes it appealing.
Re: Sony on PS Plus Price Increase: We Want to Make PlayStation Plus Great
What market conditions? They have a monopoly on this service on this platform. They own the market. There's no competition.
They increased the price when they introduced the new tiers, Extra and Premium. This further increase with ZERO improvement to the service forthcoming is ridiculous. I let my Premium sub continue in May, despite being pissed off about it for most of that year but the next coming renewal I will be "downgrading" to Extra and I'll be happier for it, but no better off since it costs the same as what I paid for Premium.
The new Sony Pictures Core app is laughable. You could almost forgive the £20 price increase on Premium if it came with 4K HDR Dolby Atmos movies for free via the app. But, it does not.
Re: You'll Need an Internet Connection to Pair PS5 Slim's Optional Blu-ray Drive
No problems with them streamlining their "offering".
Rather than two SKUs, they have one. This is cheaper for them to produce and reduces the complexity of their offerings.
So, why haven't they dropped the price? The old PS5 Disc Edition was sold off recently for as little as £380. Sure, to clear stock, but it's a better price and more attractive. More attractive means more new users, meaning a larger potential for PS Plus and future licensing fee revenue.
At £480 for the disc bundle, it's no better than it was before. The Blu-ray drive itself doesn't cost £100 to produce and the R&D costs for Blu-ray drives, at this point, are minuscule. They'll have had to figure out how to fit it into the the casing.
I already have a PS5 and I don't plan on getting a newer model, so this suggestion doesn't help me, but they should be charging maybe £50 for the disc add-on and the total price should be closer to the £380 we saw not too long back.
All in all, them continuing with disc usage is fine and the price is at least no more expensive then it was before.
We must keep an eye Sony and Microsoft as we enter the next generation. They want to drop discs. The publisher's want to drop discs. Thanks to lax anti-trust/consumer laws, now one of the console manufacturers is also a big publisher. They will start saying that discs are selling less (neglecting to mention they'll make the decision to publish less discs to create this argument first). Then they'll start seeding articles into the IGNs and the Kotakus about how discs suck and we need to move on and stop holding back progress, etc, with imagined benefits that will never be realised of a digital only world.
They'll do it by hook or crook.
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection (PS5) - Three Classics in One Messy Bundle
The biggest issue that's going to keep me from playing is the awkward Xbox style of using the weapons in FPV in MGS 2 & 3.
The pressure sensitive controls are much better.
Re: Rumour: The Next Far Cry Game Is an Extraction-Based Multiplayer Shooter with Permadeath
Sounds horrible.
If they want to refresh Far Cry they need to bring back FarCry Instincts.
Re: Ubisoft Exec Says Physical Sales Slowing, But They're Not Going Away
Yeah, they're slowing because less games are getting physical releases. Can't buy a game on disc if they don't publish one.
Publishers don't like physical media because it can be resold. They have a lot of incentive to kill the market. They tried with the Xbox One and that backfired immensely, so now it's happening in the sly.
Re: PS Plus Premium Adds PS5 Cloud Streaming As a Perk This Month
Yeah I'll be cancelling Premium next May when it renews. This isn't a premium feature. I don't care about cloud gaming at all and I'd rather have some AAA exclusives to the Premium tier or maybe first access (like, the rumour that TLOU:P1 is coming to PS+).
Those are premium features. Being able to stream games isn't. It's a terrible experience and the worst way to play games.
They missed a trick with this Sony Pictures Core service, too. Perfect opportunity to justify the price increase by making a Disney+ like service that's free for Premium subscribers.
This is a terrible addition to Premium.
Re: 8 PS Plus Extra Games for October Leaked Early
Dead Island Definitive Edition would be great if it were 60FPS on PS5, but it's a 30FPS target and still struggles.
Re: The Last of Us 2 PS5 Remaster Seems to Be Real
I will NOT be paying £50+ for this when I own the PS4 version and it looks and plays great on PS5. I really doubt there's anything they can do that will make it worth £50+.
£15 as an upgrade.
Re: PS Plus Premium Members Get Free Movies with New PS5, PS4 Streaming App
I can guarantee you I'm not buying or renting movies like this. I'll watch for free, but I'm not buying digital movies.
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Physical Release on PS5 Might Be a Possibility
I haven't bought it yet because I want this on a physical disc, so this is great news.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Assassin's Creed Mirage?
Played most of them, will be giving this a miss.
Re: The Last of Us Multiplayer's Microtransactions Man Has Left Naughty Dog
@Texan_Survivor Hopefully, someone realised how important of an IP it is and didn't want it to be ruined by "live services".
Re: The Last of Us Multiplayer's Microtransactions Man Has Left Naughty Dog
I hope the door hit his arse on the way out and he forever feels like there's a stone in his shoe, but when he checks, he can't find it.
Re: The Last of Us Multiplayer Game Is 'Basically on Ice' Right Now
@pharos_haven you could buy MTX but it wasn't anything like a live service disaster like we get today.
Re: The Last of Us Multiplayer Game Is 'Basically on Ice' Right Now
Honestly, good.
A Last of Us multiplayer game would be great.
A live service TLOU MP game? No.
Re: PS5's Console Exclusive Knights of the Old Republic Remake Is Being Nuked from the Internet
It'll be a miracle if this is any good, given it's being passed from pillar to post.
Why is it exclusive, as well? The original KOTOR was multiplatform, I believe?
Re: PS Plus Extra Game for November Revealed Super Early
@Th3solution I ended up buying Stray when it got a physical release. Mostly because I wanted to show some support for the studio, despite having it free (at the time) with PS Plus. Secondly, to support physical releases, especially of smaller indie games like this.
Re: Who Is PlayStation's New CEO, Hiroki Totoki?
@LifeGirl why? They brought Mark Cerny onboard for PS4 and the whole deal was he had a respect for development and that was his input.
Re: Who Is PlayStation's New CEO, Hiroki Totoki?
As he's interim, there will be no big decisions under his tenure.
I've disliked Jim's tenure as CEO and disagreed with pretty much every decision you can tie to him.
If we can get rid of Phil Spencer next year then it may well be an exciting time for gaming.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Mortal Kombat 1?
I haven't played this so I can't rate it, but if the combat is similar to the last few entries, it'll be frustratingly crap
Re: Jim Ryan Retires as PlayStation Boss in March 2024
Honestly, as an ardent PlayStation fan, this is good news. I haven't liked Jim's tenure.
Re: Microsoft Documents Show How PlayStation Now Saved Fallout 76
They... Really shouldn't have.
Re: Metal Gear Solid Locked at 30fps in PS5, PS4 Master Collection
@doctommaso yeah, I see your point.
I obviously don't agree that example (5 minutes over 2.5 minutes) as it's nonsense. Spiderman likely has a fixed speed variable in game which determines how far he travels per tick, etc
However, I do maintain that using FPS as a computer speed measurement is still valid, as we obviously do that all the time. In the above, flawed, example, during the 5 minutes, the 60FPS machine will have rendered roughly twice as many frames as the 30FPS machine. Spiderman will have travelled roughly the same, in-game, distance on both machines.
Re: Metal Gear Solid Locked at 30fps in PS5, PS4 Master Collection
@rusty82 your 4k TV will likely do some upscaling from the performance mode resolution outputted anyway.
I'm definitely in the same boat, but my path slightly different. I was a PC gamer for the 360/PS3 generation and only bought a PS4 for the exclusives. With the PS5 able to do 60FPS, appreciably, for most games and graphics cards costing more than a ***** runaround car, I made the move.
If a game has fancy ray tracing but it's locked to 30, or no fancy lighting and 60FPS, that's the superior way to play, for me.
Re: Metal Gear Solid Locked at 30fps in PS5, PS4 Master Collection
@doctommaso frames per second is literally has a unit of measurement of time within it.
Speed is distance divided by time.
You could put two computers together, one faster than the other and count how many frames are rendered within a run with a set time limit and observe how the faster machine can render more within the time frame.
You then deduce that one machine runs it faster. It rendered more frames during the run. Because the time was the same for each machine, but the distance, or, the number of frames rendered, differs, letting you slot the numbers into the S = D/T equation.
Spiderman running at 60 FPS is literally running twice as fast as Spiderman running at 30FPS.
Re: Metal Gear Solid Locked at 30fps in PS5, PS4 Master Collection
@doctommaso sure, if you're using a real camera. It'll take the subject 10 seconds to cross the field regardless of the framerate of the footage.
But for videogames, "how fast does it run?" It's answered, usually, in frames per second.
There's obviously a lot more to it than that, which Digital Foundry often go into, but for the most part someone isn't wrong if they say a game is slow to run because it's 30FPS.
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Patch 3 Is Gigantic, Out Now on PS5 with Improved Performance
I've not bought this yet, but this gives me hope:
"We're continuing to work hard at stabilising 60 FPS."
Re: Metal Gear Solid Locked at 30fps in PS5, PS4 Master Collection
@doctommaso FPS is a measurement of speed. We literally say "how fast does it run?".
Over the years, things like frame times and latency are more accurate but it's not silly to think of how fast a game runs synonymously with the frame rate.
Re: Metal Gear Solid Locked at 30fps in PS5, PS4 Master Collection
I think 4k@60 should've been the minimum on current gen, for MGS 2 & 3. It looks like MGS1 is always going to be 30FPS.
I still think the Switch is the thing holding these back.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Gets Over 30 Minutes of Open Area PS5 Gameplay
I cut my losses with FFVII years ago.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0?
Never actually played Cyberpunk. After the initial launch I was positively whelmed and lost interest.
Is it anything like Deus Ex Mankind Divided?
Re: 20 More PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Available to Download Now
Hardly heard of any of these and the ones I have I've already bought
Re: It's Happening: Legendary Tekken Ball Mode Returns in Tekken 8
... Get your wallets out.
Re: Alan Wake 2 Really Does Look Like One of the Best PS5 Games of the Year
I'll buy it when there's a physical release.
Re: Roblox Finally Comes to PS5, PS4 This October
finally?
This "game" is pure trash designed to milk children for money.
Re: PS5's Remote Play Handheld PS Portal Releases on 15th November
I would've preordered now if the price had been right, but £200 for a streaming device, no HDR and wireless audio behind an additional paywall (PS Plus Premium, which I have but isn't the point)... Given the PS Vita cost me about as much and it played games, browsed the web and could remote play with the PS3 and PS4...
The form factor looks good. The (almost, slightly smaller sticks) full sized controller looks like it would improve the remote play experience, over previously mentioned methods. The price is all wrong.
Re: PS5 Fans Divided on PlayStation Portal Handheld
It's about £75 too expensive for what it is. £199.99 is ridiculous considering it can't do much and wireless audio is locked behind an additional paywall.
Given it's using a dual sense controller (of sorts) and it should be designed around reduced latency, I'm interested, but will wait for a huge price drop.
If this was a PS Vita 2 (...of sorts) I'd already have a preorder in place.
Re: PS Plus Essential, Extra, Premium Price Increases Announced by Sony
I will be "downgrading" to Extra if this is the case. "Premium" is terrible value for money and none of the features are worth it, at all.
Extra is great. Premium, honestly, sucks.
Re: Looks Like You Should Expect More Astro Bot on PS5
@thefourfoldroot1 one thing that puts me off of that VR is hit and miss, so a demo is essential for a VR sale, in my books. I haven't bought any since release, in all honesty, nothing's really grabbed me.
Re: Looks Like You Should Expect More Astro Bot on PS5
Something Astro for PSVR2 would be great, in all honesty. I missed out on the PSVR and the Astro game looked legitimately fun.
But another game like the Playroom would be excellent. It was such good fun.
If they made it free again that would be really good value for the PS5 and/or PSVR2.
Re: PlayStation Portal Is Sony's PS5 Remote Play Handheld, Priced at $200 / £200
This is overpriced. I paid £180 for a Vita and that played games and remote play. In fact, I still use it for gaming occasionally.
And to not be able to actually stream PS Now/"Premium" games either? Is it just a display and controller thrown together?! It better be a next level display for £200.
Re: PS5 Fans Note Very Fast Start to 2024 Release Schedule
After the presser the other day regarding Tekken 8 I'm less excited about it. Looks like they're continuing the path of carving up the game into DLC chunks like Tekken 7.
Plus that special one button fighting mode was horrendous.