@jcboyer515 I don’t know why you’ve made this complicated. I won’t buy hades if Sony applies there ps5 new game pricing to it. If they price it according to its actual age, sure, but in the past they’ve priced ‘new to playstation’ at full price, e.g. Civ and its DLC 4 years after release on PC.
Yes, it is an indie title but also a GOTY so who knows what they’ll do.
And that lawsuit is exactly like this situation - if third parties could sell codes to hades on playstation there would be more/any competition and the price would be driven down.
@jcboyer515 they’re being sued in a class action case because they’re not letting third parties sell codes anymore, which lets them sell stuff above market price.
But seriously that is new game pricing now. And if you look at other games, steam was selling civ 6 for peanuts with DLC while the ps store was selling it full price without dlc. They’re actually being sued for that practice specifically.
I was going to buy this game but the save thing is a deal breaker. With kids and dog, it isn’t feasible to set aside the TV for 3-4 hours and not have to put it down. I get that they want to prevent save-scumming but the game just doesn’t fit into my life until the save feature is implemented.
Just saying that even NetHack (nethack.org) had a save feature.... and you could save-scum if you knew how. I don’t recall if Rogue itself had it, but nethack wasn’t much later.
@velio84 Absolutely worth getting, don’t hesitate. Also, I’m sure you’ve heard this, but to finish it you need to “finish” it multiple times. I won’t spoil beyond that, but know that when you first see the credits you haven’t seen the whole story.
Sorry, buying games at full price is like going to the movie theatre on opening day paying full price. It is just not a sustainable habit no matter how much you want to support the corporation who is selling it. If I can wait 6 months, I can play games at the same rate but half the price, it is just obvious.... And I do the same with 90% of movies waiting for blu-ray or streaming.
Of course with both media I occasionally fall for the hype train and pay full price, but it is rare and I can’t afford to do it often despite a good salary.
To expect the average wage-earner to pay full price ever is just insane.
@Royalblues well, when you start NG+ you play as 9S. Then next time as yet again someone else. You keep seeing the story from different viewpoints and it reveals more and changes everything. It is actually really smart.
Review Scores: I would love to be able to specify what is important to me in a game and have the review scores reflect that.
So someone who needs action and online play, doesn’t care about plot and wants good graphics would see a high score for COD, but someone who has said they want single player games with depth may read the same review and see a lower score.
I think this is achievable via “preferences” stored in cookies or along side user profile information, and have the actual game score on server side broken down into components.
This would solve the age old problem where game x and y are both 8/10 but clearly not equal... or the problem where somehow Journey got a higher score than Nioh....
@Royalblues If it is any consolation finishing Nier automata once won’t tell you what is going on or give you the “real” ending. You have to finish it like 5 times to finish the story.
This is one of those cases where Jim Sterling is correct, though he’s overly negative about it - the shareholders are the real customers, and we’re the product being sold to the shareholders
@velio84 None of the other responses mentioned it from what I see, so I’ll say this -
Nioh is the love child of Diablo and Dark Souls.
I’m not making that up, the devs literally referenced diablo before the first game. So while you have bonfires (shrines) and other dark-souls like mechanics, you also have the loot of a game like diablo, and finding the right gear with the right bonuses is definitely part of the game, where in a souls-like the gear is often just fashion-souls.
Mmmm hard choice between RT and a decent framerate. Going back to 30fps for TLoU2 was really jarring, any time you pan the camera it was super noticeable.
Ugh like others I just bought control from PS store in December sale, left it untouched for the ps5 edition. At least it was only like 20 bucks wasted.
@Jimmer-jammer good question. I’ve been waiting on the DLC too, but if I have to replay I won’t mind. I played hammers/heavy armor and basically destroyed the game the first time, would be nice to try a build that is less OP.
Okay, but will they re-release it a year later at full price as “P5 Strikers Royal” or similar? Not that I’m super salty about their marketting strategy.
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Re: Rumour: Final Fantasy Origin Reveal Set for E3, Working with Team Ninja
More Nioh is a good thing.
Re: Lies of P Is a Pinocchio-Inspired Souls-Like Action RPG Coming to PS5
Souls-like .... well maybe worth trying...
Re: Talking Point: Should Sony Have Its Own Controller Design Lab?
@Jacko11 Fair point.
Re: Talking Point: Should Sony Have Its Own Controller Design Lab?
@LiamCroft it already exists by a third party - https://www.colorware.com/p-1184-dualsense.aspx
Re: Hades Could Finally Be Coming to PlayStation
@jcboyer515 I don’t know why you’ve made this complicated. I won’t buy hades if Sony applies there ps5 new game pricing to it. If they price it according to its actual age, sure, but in the past they’ve priced ‘new to playstation’ at full price, e.g. Civ and its DLC 4 years after release on PC.
Yes, it is an indie title but also a GOTY so who knows what they’ll do.
And that lawsuit is exactly like this situation - if third parties could sell codes to hades on playstation there would be more/any competition and the price would be driven down.
Re: Hades Could Finally Be Coming to PlayStation
@jcboyer515 they’re being sued in a class action case because they’re not letting third parties sell codes anymore, which lets them sell stuff above market price.
https://www.gameinformer.com/2021/05/06/sony-class-action-lawsuit-revealed-over-playstation-store-exclusivity
Re: Hades Could Finally Be Coming to PlayStation
@jcboyer515 because Sony?
But seriously that is new game pricing now. And if you look at other games, steam was selling civ 6 for peanuts with DLC while the ps store was selling it full price without dlc. They’re actually being sued for that practice specifically.
Re: Hades Could Finally Be Coming to PlayStation
@jcboyer515 PS5 games cost 90$ CAD.
Re: Hades Could Finally Be Coming to PlayStation
Not for 90$ CAD tho
Re: Returnal's Save System Still Being Investigated, New Content in the Works
@everynowandben yes. Even old text roguelikes (eg nethack) had this. I should boot up rogue to see if it had it.
And you can implement online if you’re really really worried about save-scumming.
Re: Returnal's Save System Still Being Investigated, New Content in the Works
I was going to buy this game but the save thing is a deal breaker. With kids and dog, it isn’t feasible to set aside the TV for 3-4 hours and not have to put it down. I get that they want to prevent save-scumming but the game just doesn’t fit into my life until the save feature is implemented.
Re: Sega Wants Persona Dev Atlus to Do Simultaneous Worldwide Launches
Also stop releasing DLC as a whole new game please.... even if the DLC is pepper and salt mixed in with the rest of the game.
Re: Ubisoft Pivots Strategy Towards Quality Free-to-Play Games
<<Jim Sterling’s voice>> Recurrent user spending
Re: Alternative PS5 Controller Colours Apparently En Route
You can already get highly customized dualsenses..... https://www.colorware.com/p-1184-dualsense.aspx?c=ir4-8zsnm*ir6-8zukm*iqz-8zplo*ir8-8zv6o*ira-8zx1n&cartRecordId=0
@get2sammyb
Re: Mass Effect Legendary Edition Download Size Is Massive on PS5, PS4
Honestly that seems rather reasonable for 3 games. There are single games bigger than that.
Re: Class Action Lawsuit Claims Sony Has Monopoly on PS Store Games
Of course, they control retail prices too... looking at you PS5 Games MSRP grumble
Re: Promising FPS Necromunda: Hired Gun Has Our Attention in New PS5, PS4 Gameplay Trailer
Is this related to the Games Workshop property?
Re: May 2021 PS Plus Games Are Available to Download Now
Really no interest in any of them.
Re: Housemarque Acknowledges Request for Mid-Run Saves in Returnal
Just saying that even NetHack (nethack.org) had a save feature.... and you could save-scum if you knew how. I don’t recall if Rogue itself had it, but nethack wasn’t much later.
Re: Gallery: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Drops Jaws in New PS5 Screenshots
Still not sure I can justify forking out $90 CAD for this, despite knowing it’ll be a good game. Frankly same for returnal.
Re: PS Store Golden Week Sale Features Over 700 PS5, PS4 Deals
P5R at 50% but still too expensive... I can’t bring myself to pay $40 CAD for what should be DLC instead of billed as a full game.
Re: PS Store Golden Week Sale Features Over 700 PS5, PS4 Deals
@velio84 Absolutely worth getting, don’t hesitate. Also, I’m sure you’ve heard this, but to finish it you need to “finish” it multiple times. I won’t spoil beyond that, but know that when you first see the credits you haven’t seen the whole story.
Re: Days Gone Lead Designer Thanks Fans for Playing the Game No Matter How Much Money They Spent
Sounds rather insincere
Re: Days Gone Director on Skipped Sequel: 'If You Love a Game, Buy It at F***ing Full Price'
Sorry, buying games at full price is like going to the movie theatre on opening day paying full price. It is just not a sustainable habit no matter how much you want to support the corporation who is selling it. If I can wait 6 months, I can play games at the same rate but half the price, it is just obvious.... And I do the same with 90% of movies waiting for blu-ray or streaming.
Of course with both media I occasionally fall for the hype train and pay full price, but it is rare and I can’t afford to do it often despite a good salary.
To expect the average wage-earner to pay full price ever is just insane.
Re: Puppeteer's Gavin Moore Rounds Out Japan Studio Exodus As Team Disbands
@get2sammyb of course the real story here is the impact to the Bloodborne PS5 release.....
Re: Out Today: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 + 2 Lands a Sick Combo on PS5
Is this a free upgrade for ps4 users?
Re: Soapbox: Why Do You Replay Games?
Soulsborne games are worth replaying. Can’t think of anything else tho.
Re: Bloodborne PS5 Version Spotted on PlayStation Store, But It's Probably a Bug
Totally worth the hype and hope. It’s hard to replay the game now due to the janky frame-rate.
Re: NieR Replicant Looks Sharp in 9 Minutes of Uncut PS4 Gameplay
@GREGORIAN I answered that question above. See #27.
Re: NieR Replicant Looks Sharp in 9 Minutes of Uncut PS4 Gameplay
@Royalblues well, when you start NG+ you play as 9S. Then next time as yet again someone else. You keep seeing the story from different viewpoints and it reveals more and changes everything. It is actually really smart.
Re: Talking Point: What Content Do You Want from Push Square?
Review Scores:
I would love to be able to specify what is important to me in a game and have the review scores reflect that.
So someone who needs action and online play, doesn’t care about plot and wants good graphics would see a high score for COD, but someone who has said they want single player games with depth may read the same review and see a lower score.
I think this is achievable via “preferences” stored in cookies or along side user profile information, and have the actual game score on server side broken down into components.
This would solve the age old problem where game x and y are both 8/10 but clearly not equal... or the problem where somehow Journey got a higher score than Nioh....
Re: NieR Replicant Looks Sharp in 9 Minutes of Uncut PS4 Gameplay
@Royalblues If it is any consolation finishing Nier automata once won’t tell you what is going on or give you the “real” ending. You have to finish it like 5 times to finish the story.
Re: Wow, This New Unreal Engine Tech Is Mind Blowing
Okay, but can it create Nigel Thornberry?
Re: This Is Why PS5, PS4 Microtransactions Won't Be Going Away
This is one of those cases where Jim Sterling is correct, though he’s overly negative about it - the shareholders are the real customers, and we’re the product being sold to the shareholders
Re: PS5 Firmware Update 20.02-02.50.00 Available to Download Now
Hey @God_of_Nowt don’t suppose you have any insider info for us as to what “stability” means? You’ve been so awesome in the past
Re: God of War PS5 4K 60FPS Patch Out Now
@ShogunRok That subtitle is gold
Re: Control: Ultimate Edition (PS5) - A Great Example of What a PS5 Upgrade Can Offer
FWIW it did that thing where it downloaded both ps4 and ps5 versions, and I had to carefully figure out which is which and cancel the ps4 version.
Re: Nioh 2 PS4 Patch Adds Cross-Save Support for PS5
@velio84 None of the other responses mentioned it from what I see, so I’ll say this -
Nioh is the love child of Diablo and Dark Souls.
I’m not making that up, the devs literally referenced diablo before the first game. So while you have bonfires (shrines) and other dark-souls like mechanics, you also have the loot of a game like diablo, and finding the right gear with the right bonuses is definitely part of the game, where in a souls-like the gear is often just fashion-souls.
Re: PS5 PlayStation Store Finally Has a Deals Section
I’ve seen the details section come and go, seems random if it shows up.
Re: How Is Control: Ultimate Edition Improved on PS5?
Mmmm hard choice between RT and a decent framerate. Going back to 30fps for TLoU2 was really jarring, any time you pan the camera it was super noticeable.
Re: PS Plus February 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Announced
Ugh like others I just bought control from PS store in December sale, left it untouched for the ps5 edition. At least it was only like 20 bucks wasted.
Re: Nioh 2 PS5 Remaster Looks Slick and Savage in New Gameplay
@Jimmer-jammer good question. I’ve been waiting on the DLC too, but if I have to replay I won’t mind. I played hammers/heavy armor and basically destroyed the game the first time, would be nice to try a build that is less OP.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Has Now Been Missing from the PS Store for a Month
@Cleric22 yea, at this point I don’t know where I would even keep a disk-based game. How Gauche.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Has Now Been Missing from the PS Store for a Month
I still want this game on ps5, but I’m definitely waiting for a good sale.
Re: Tales from the Borderlands Seemingly Getting PS5 Release
Bro! Bro Bro! Bro Bro Bro Bro Bro Bro.......
Re: Soapbox: 2021 Is the Year to Tackle Your Backlog, Because So Many Games Are Going to Be Delayed
Ugh, I took off December and outright completed my backlog.....
Re: Persona 5 Strikers Hits Back with a Bombastic New Trailer
Okay, but will they re-release it a year later at full price as “P5 Strikers Royal” or similar? Not that I’m super salty about their marketting strategy.
Re: 67 Per Cent of UK Game Sales Were Digital Last Year
GTA V though....still..
Re: Random: Looking For a Media Centre That'll Fit Your New PS5? IKEA's Got You Covered
Good Guy IKEA
Re: Soapbox: I Can't Keep Up with Service Games
@Tasuki this is exactly why I stopped WoW - there were other games out there that were worth experiencing.