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@Savino Nintendo and Sony are hardware manufacturers so of course they don't want it. MS can't wait for this transition, they are well aware that a big black box under your TV isn't the future.

Nintendo are 'fine' as they will continue with a variety of entertainment devices. May or may not ever be as big as they were but at least their strategy isn't staring at a brick wall.

Sony are the ones in big trouble despite what a lot of people on this site would like to believe. They are by far weaker than MS in services and this is clearly where the gaming industry is moving (/moved). They are a replicable middleman that won't be needed in the near future. Putting money into VR now is a very smart decision by them.

Absolutely great game.

PS VR will be great for tech demos and corridor shooters while PC based VR will be doing what everyone actually wants to do in VR, however obviously much more expensive. The price of the Oculus Rift is completely irrelevant and suggesting that Sony are smiling is ridiculous.

If it launches with a good game I can see this thing selling like hotcakes. It seems that a lot of people are wanting to spend their money on cool new tech these days.

@get2sammyb I already quoted your previous comment but here it is again for your reference: "It's a nice perk and a good bullet point, but why would I want to play an old game when I've just bought the new one?"

My comment was in relation to that. I find it odd you promote remasters on PS yet dismiss 2 free games when given on xbox.

And for the record, I comprehended the thread the first time i read it.

@get2sammyb So Xbox give away 2 older games for free and you pose the question 'why would i want to play an old game?' and yet PS has pumped out more remasters than you can shake a stick at and multiple times you have defended the practice. What's the difference? HD? The Sony logo?

Might be struggling getting VR to run on it. I'm mystified how they are going to get anything substantial running in VR on the PS4.

This would be great for PSVR. Any experience which makes people want to share it with their friends and then in turn their friends go home talking about it is a win.

@adf86 There was an entire article on Pushsquare about how exclusives don't matter in the grand scheme of things. The big Multiplats are where the money is. Sony's games are great, no doubt, but the people creating them arnt a Sony patentable technology. The talent can easily move platforms as we have already seen. The comment that you replied to was about the future of Sony. Xbox will run Windows 10 soon while PS fans are continuing to complain about lagging message updates, crappy PS store etc.

You are spot on, sony is a consumer electronics company. They are not a software/services company. Gaming is becoming software/services whether we like it or not.

@Kage_88 Look at the Nvidia Shield Portable. Its design fits exactly what it is intended for. Game streaming, cloud gaming, android games, emulators. It is a much better designed product.
Im not saying its a better buy than the Vita, im just saying it's well designed.

@Kage_88 The 3g model was pointless, the proprietary memory is bad, it has difficulties playing PS Now games due to lack of buttons and similarly its a bad device for performing its latest touted feature which is remote play. On top of all of this, it was billed as a console in your hands and yet can barely hit decent framerates on anything close to console.
So yea, it plays games, but so would anything with two sticks and a screen. Im not going to say its great simply because it has two sticks.
Can you think of many simple changes that could have been made to make it better? I can.

@adf86 Sony has terrible software across the board of their products. Their mobile phones are ok now simply because they have stripped it back to pretty much stock Android. I have no idea how this year proves anything. If you believe the software on the PS4 is a strong point then I guess you haven't used many other OS. Let's not even start on their services.

How many consoles run FIFA '16? That's PS4s competition. I can name one other console, which many of its "loyal" fans turned on because PS4 had Moar Powarh.

Instead of just stating something is great, how about actually saying why its so much better and then explain why its potential competition can't do that also. The only thing I can give Sony is brand. Brand recognition is a very fragile competitive advantage.

@rjejr Yea, I'm sure it will be an incredibly hard sell, however, if they do get a killer app/game then im sure media and word of mouth will do the trick.
The difference between VR and Wonderbook is... how many people other than hired professionals did you hear say that the wonderbook needed to be experienced? I heard zero people saying that. On the contrary, almost everyone experiencing VR including developers are coming away with a positive reaction or at least a reaction that it truly needs to be experienced (the exception is when people have sickness but this is less and less nowadays). This will be the difference.

I recently travelled through china and when I was in Hong Kong I picked up a VR headset that I had purchased on Kickstarter. Throughout my travels I stayed at many hostels and showed people some basic VR. They were all blown away. Only one of the three demos I showed was from the 1st person perspective.

I completely agree that I doubt this will be the future of Playstation but that is mostly because I don't think there is a future for Playstation. The Vita is a poorly designed device. The PS4 is a simple box with terrible software and services that many other companies could copy or best. The only reason it is successful is due to lack of competition. Im sure the Vita would be selling like hotcakes too if it only had as much competition as the PS4 does.

So yea, VR is the future (along with other mediums) and my bet is that facebook, google, MS and valve will lead the way.

@rjejr Have you tried VR?
It has been said time and time again that VR is something that needs to be experienced to understand. People really just need to trust this and stop making opinions about something they don't know.

*read that comment with no negative tone

@brendon987 Yea, I agree. Once that VR experience is created that really blows peoples minds, price will be irrelevant. Whether that experience will be created on Playstation VR though is another story.

@Boerewors Im moving to London the day before the final. Should be a great welcome!

Also, I haven't heard that one before so Ill give credit for originality haha.

@Boerewors You're dreaming if you think SA is taking home the cup. GO THE ABs!!

Well I can confirm that they are indeed some of the biggest names in skating right now.

What pros do you recognize? The ones from previous games?

There are way better alternatives. Unfortunately that's how I sum up Sony these days.

PlayStation Now on the Vita doesn't make a lot of sense does it? Just another reason why I lump the Vita into the fail category. As the article says it's obviously just a continued test of the service prepping for the future.

@AXEL314 I'm thinking it's the art style the leads to the sameyness though, not the objects or terrain. Im certainly not knocking it just yet though because as you said we have barely seen anything so perhaps things can be shaken up enough to keep things interesting. Looking forward to the game anyway.

Im guessing they have pushed it back so it can release alongside P.Morpheus.
Im struggling to get hyped for this game however I understand it may just be difficult to convey it's funness so im not writing it off.
From what I have seen though the generated worlds all seem samey and don't really seem like they would hold my interest for long if exportation is the sole purpose.

Unless this game is truely unique (which it doesn't look like so far) people will enjoy this for a short period then move on to the next shooter. It will sell a bucket load and reward the crappy AAA strategy.

Thank goodness for indies.

Is the mystery of what the game is about part of its marketing strategy? I have been following the game so i'm aware of all the details that the developers have given but for anyone solely watching the trailers they would be none the wiser about what the game is actually about.

@PorIIM I'm aware of who develped the game. Who's saying he won't get any credit? You do realise that Kojimas tramp stamp on everything wasn't the norm to begin with? The comments I quoted seem a little overboard for the situation in my opinion.

"Disgusting" "boycott the game". Goodness me, what an overreaction to something fairly meaningless and what we don't know the ins and outs of.

Iwata was a great man. R.I.P

I recently just returned from a holiday in China and although a friend of mine who lived in Honk Kong had a PS4 (He's British) it was the only PS4 I saw during my entire time there. However I did see many XBones being sold throughout Lenovo stores so im surprised to hear that PS4 is ahead in China.

I had my identity stolen once and the consequences of that, as simple as they were, were incredibly time consuming and frustrating. Not only that, even once i had "cleared" my name I still had occasionally issues. I have no idea about this case or why this 'hacker' is targeting this man, but all I know is that everything he described sounds like an absolute nightmare.

@ztpayne7 Grab a copy and start playing ASAP!

@professorhat oh right, yea that's fair enough. Yea I was looking further into the future, certainly not today or tomorrow.

@professorhat It's far from knee jerk. This has been an ongoing issue for years.
I would agree with you if the digital gaming space was to remain stagnant and allow Sony to play catch up. The reality of it though is that digital gaming is becoming increasingly complex and increasingly important. If Sony can do what you say and continue to maintain/invest in their digital future to the point that they are better or at least equivalent to their competitors then good on them. Unfortunately I don't think Sony have it in them to keep up with the big boys in the online services game. MS and Google (Android TV gaming) prioritise and excel directly in the area where the gaming industry is heading. Not just online infrastructure but also online services. Not today or tomorrow, but a drastic move (partnership??) by Sony is what i believe will need to happen.

Xbox live doesn't have anywhere near the downtime of PSN - And most would agree that Xbox live is already the more complex/superior online service.

@professorhat Yea that is what i'm saying. The idea of it being a partnership would mean that the initial cost to Sony would be lowered. You are right though, this is only necessary if PSN really is in a desperate state. I'd argue that if frequent weekend crashes continue and competition increases then it really does need to be considered. Or ya know, continue with an unsatisfactory service until people have had enough.

@professorhat What you are missing is the fact that we are talking about a partnership with one of these companies, not simply a customer. What it boils down to is that I believe MS, Google and Amazon can handle online services far better than Sony and therefore if Sony cant sort themselves out then perhaps they need the work of a more qualified company.

@professorhat i'm not an expert on this so i'm not going to act like I am but my assumption would be that these other companies also have very comprehensive knowledge about running services/applications on their platforms. Google, MS and Amazon all have complex online applications far greater than PSN.

@professorhat It's not necessarily the size of the cloud that would help Sony, it's the expertise of one of these other companies that Sony could use.

@Neolit Yea, I am aware of Amazons service. They are a very interesting company on the whole. Just thought MS would be a bit of a laugh. In all seriousness though, Sony really need to do something about this and your suggestion isn't such a bad one.

@Neolit RE:#2 MS perhaps...

@rastamadeus Wow, are you even serious right now? Naughty Dog have pushed the boundries of everything they have touched, including a variety of genres. It's an action game and im sure you cant name another more impressive. Hopefully they get a chance to switch up game genre in their next venture but don't hold it against them when all they are doing is excelling in the orders they have been given from higher up. Check their wiki to refresh your memory on their brilliant catalogue.

@Gamer83 I'm sure at least MS and Google would disagree, but yea, they are the thoughts running through my mind.

@Gamer83 Yea, fair enough if your not interested looking too far forward to next gen quite just yet. Strategy is is where my interests lie and so far Sony aren't doing anything to convince me that they are in a position to hold. I see a future of gaming where there will be far more competition at the top level than just the current big 3 and simply having the strongest hardware at launch isn't going to be enough to be succesful. MS are in a good position, Nintendo are in a good position (to do their thing), Apple, Google, FB are in a good position.

The only strengths Sony currently have are industry relationships and a gaming userbase.... Both of which we know are incredibly fickle.

Street Fighter VI, Tomb Raider - Apple Game Exclusives... it isn't that far fetched. Especially in an era when an iTunes subscription is all that is needed.

It's becoming increasingly apparent that Naughty Dog are second to none.

@Gamer83
The Wii is a poor comparison as it was non traditional gamers (e.g My mother) who were continuing to purchase it.
That's beside my point anyway.
Why do you think PlayStation got off to such a great start this gen? and what was so unique about it that you think that next gen their competition or new competitors cant do the same? I would argue that next-gen Sony themselves arn't going to be able to keep up as gaming increasingly becomes digital. However i'm keen to hear your opinion.

Impressive figures that mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.
The Playstation has 1 (2 if ya wanna go there) competitor. It is beating its competitor. Great. We are not talking about a multi-competitve market such as clothing, smartphones, shoes etc. Look at those market shares - slightly more complex. As has been seen in this current generation, loyalism is weak and players are happy to move to the "best console" each gen.

Why is the PS4 the best? Why will it continue to be the best? Why is PS5 going to be the best?

The PS4 is winning this generation SOLEY because it has the more powerful hardware and the results that have come about because of this. Pretty weak competitive advantage if you ask me... Yes it has some impressive games (vapourware??) but they are not the reason the millions of consoles are being sold.
MS (and Nintendo) have far stronger competitive advantages that are far more threatening to Playstation than simply DDR5.

I get this article is simply celebrating a good result for Playstation and that's great, however I'm stating this comment to point out that the celebrations may need to be now and loud because they may not last for long.

Love the idea of the stomp mechanic. Should really speed things up.

Yea, I'd imagine the touch sensitive buttons are more of a "pro" look. Similar to how they have changed to a matt cover for a more "casual" look.
Personally I'm not a fan of touch buttons on anything so for me it's a welcome change.

@KratosMD I thought Mark Cerny built the Vita??

HA! I said this before the thing even released! People can like this console but you must be market blind to think this thing could ever have been hugely successful. COD on the go... Who do you think is actually buying the 1 gazillion copies of COD?

@get2sammyb I was thinking that but im now thinking differently. Nintendo learnt the hard way that their handhelds need to be rock bottom pricing to hit the masses. The NX would have to be powerful to dock to a TV and that wont come cheap. Unless the docking of the handheld is just one feature of the NX and it's also a traditional console in its own right.