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Aerial Kills, can't see what the fuss is about. The article title sounds like clickbait. Regardless of what side people take when it comes to the game, it seems the incessant hype has overtaken all rationality.

This Forbes article has no plot descriptions or spoilers, just a summary of some very intelligent views and impressions from various game journalists who completed the game.
They make some compelling arguments that are worth reading.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2020/06/15/two-warnings-about-the-last-of-us-part-2-review-scores/#5c30769d30a4

@LiamCroft Surely you mean 00:00 Friday in UK. Midnight Thursday.
Or as you put it 12.00am Friday 19th.

Wa Hey!
That'll save a lot of fafffing about

@roe So true!

Sometimes I wonder if hype moves from the rational into some kind of habitual behaviour fuelled by an enthusiastic echo chamber. overkill is putting it mildly. This is no comment on the game itself, something my interest in has differentially diminished as the hype grew.

Aside from BGE2 (whenever we're going to see that) Cyberpunk 2077 is the only game I'm looking forward to this year - as I like to immerse myself in a game as much as possible and CP2077 looks epic

Sorry guys, I couldn't care less about TLOU2. I played the first. it was good, not great. I found parts of it played some of the 'contemporary' issues and themes in the POV and storyline in a heavy handed way.
From what I've seen of the official trailers and gameplay, it seems there's even more of the 'Look how right on and risk taking we are' going on. I can't help thinking TLOU2 has been male-feminist righteously over-egged.
The guys should have stepped aside completely 100% and let a team of women writers work through the themes.

What, no Resistance, no Infamous? - it's an outrage!

Yes, but God no, the mining killed me.
Oh, and because Anthem

I went back a couple of months ago after losing interest when Cayde 6 was murdered. It's still fun in moderate doses.

@maruse Someone told me about Fashion Health a few days ago. Japanese culture never ceases to amaze me.
As for these game options, it might throw a spanner in the works for those male gamers who like to play as female characters. i wonder how many will (not have) the balls to take it to the next level?
Or will the guys just opt for a male character.
Decisions, decisions.
Oh, it's not clear. can we change our players gender throughout the game?

"Soapbox: Sony Needs to Share a PS5 Roadmap"
No, they don't.
A presentation or release date would do.

As a member of the professional pitchfork partnership I would like to formally express my objection to being stereotyped and thrown in with the unruly rabble protesters, trolls and imbeciles whose only physical medium of protest is a ticky-tacky keyboard and are so weak as to allow their ire to be raised by matters that have no bearing on their lives or future well-being.
The Pitchfork has, throughout the ages, saved many a peasant community from monstrosities far more deadly than a utterly mundane sampling of a tune.

@Areus Oh dear.

@Areus
I was riffing on Trump's whipping boy list.
Isn't Fox news basically Trump's PPE (preferred propaganda environment)?

It was either
a) the Chinese
b) Obama
c) Democrats
d) CNN

@ironmatto3
"Woke"? ND aren't woke, not by a million miles. It's money talking. As for use of the term. I can't understand how it is or has come to be used as, an insult except by the ignorant and those who believe their viewpoint is somehow 2020 'contemporary'. If anything, 'Woke' is a good thing. Found this on https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/woke/
Figurative woke—being socially and politically awake, or aware—starts in emerging in Black English at least by the 1940s. A 1943 article in The Atlantic quoted a black United Mine Workers official from 1940 playing with woke in a metaphor for social justice: “Waking up is a damn sight than going to sleep, but we’ll stay woke up longer.”

By the 1960s, woke could more generally mean “well-informed” in Black English, but it still strongly aligned with political awareness, especially in the context of the Civil Rights Movement in the 1950–60s and appearing in the phrase stay woke. The term was notable enough to prompt a 1962 New York Times article commenting on black slang, titled “If You’re Woke You Dig It.”

It is very funny.

@Gamer83 Having seen all the spoilers, the sexualised scenes should be the least of anyone's worries. Druckmann, in my opinion went too far and did it all wrong in trying to 'change everything you thought about the game'.
The story polarises rather than presenting the player with alternate views. it is this polarisation that is jarring to the player. Druckmann et al screwed up big time. You might have been able to get away with it as a TV series where the viewer is more of a passive observer. You can't just apply the same narrative POV twists in a game where you actually play as one or more characters. Itjust doesn't work

Further to my comments above, I had a look at all the spoiler videos. I can see why the guy said the game will change the way you saw/understood the original story. However, my opinion is that in the process of forcing a change of perspective, they expected far too much of a shift from the POV of the player. They overplayed their hand when it came to using plot points to force a shift in our views.
I looked into the woman writer and see she worked on Westworld, so I can see where the thinking for the changes in the story form came from (No there are no androids)
You see a lot of these kind of narrative tricks nowadays - they are difficult to pull off and yet still keep the reader/viewer/player engaged. It seems Naughty Dog failed in this regard.
Oh and speaking of the really important issue of shifting the players point of view, the Lesbian thing should be far less of a concern to any objectors - Unless they are looking for more grist to the mill
A pity

After completing the first game and finding it somewhat unfulfilling I wasn't really interested in any follow up.
Sure TLOU was different, 'adult' in its characters, themes and narrative. The main problem was that it wasn't as much of a game.
as it was a 'TLOU experience'.

@Shigurui
Okay, thanks for that.
Yet still they screwed up.

@Rob_230 @get2sammyb
Who would have guessed that guys writing a game with a lesbian love interest were going to screw it up?

@playstation1995 Resistance: Fall of Man was a real blast. I played Resistance 2, 8 player co-op for hours on end. The classes, weapons, gameplay were all top class.
Spider-man was a great game but the story lagged towards the end and the only thing that carried it was swinging around the city.

A bit off-topic but after getting bored with D2, I'm editing and playing BBC movie mixtape - The MCU one. Brilliant tracks, Ramones, AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, etc

I played it for the first time a few weeks back. My sim guy refused to respond, He wouldn't move, cook go to work/bed/wash - nothing. he'd just collapse unconscious in his own excrement.
As this was all new to me I thought he'd got some kind of early onset dementia.

@clvr Depends on how hungover and hungry you are.

Yay. With so many delays and cancellations it's good to know we can look froward to at least one thing.

@clvr cold pizza with a cuppa, for breakfast, of course

The main takeaway for me was Pudding.

@AhmadSumadi Great. many thanks for this.

Guidance please. Do I need to uninstall my Disc based Uncharted 4 content before downloading and installing the free PS+ version of the game?
I don't want to run the risk of having two versions of the game clogging up my drive or causing conflicts.
I'm presuming my saved will remain as they are separate files.

Brilliant. very funny.

This is a disappointment. It's not as if we have any other new choices. I only hope the games due out later this year stick to schedule.

@taylorsparks294 I'm just having fun - but it's true on a quantum level

@dec271828 Grab a torch, turn the lights out, shine the beam along the wall and down over a counter, you'll see what I mean.

And another thing? What is it with Quantum this and Quantum that. Do they have to put quantum in the name just to reassure us it's really totally new, and the very latest?
TBH I'm not convinced by the video. It all smacks of the Killzone 2 debacle from back in the day

@Uoman
Thanks for this.

How is this a PS5 game when they can't even get the light to distort over surfaces? I expected the circle to stretch when it shone down the wall and to curve when it went from the wall to the floor or counter.

@Uoman Similar to my impressions. Not being a programmer or developer - I see it in terms of power over performance.
The new Xbox is more powerful, that much I understand but PS5 seems to be built around optimal performance first - by rethinking the mechanics of game design and cutting out time wasting functions rather than thinking about how to make slow, and perhaps (now outdated and cumbersome) processes, go faster.
Is it the case that MS have innovated powerful performance to enhance gaming experience while Sony have rethought the design of, and relationship between, game development and machine code and created a software and hardware that works more efficiently?

@JJ2 Oh, er, yes, so was I.. of course.

@JJ2 what's so bad about slow Sex?

I often think of buying an Xbox too but then consider the following.
I stick to one or two games MP long term and get others like Spider-Man, Uncharted, Infamous, Horizon for the story/fun. (can't wait for Cyberpunk 2077 and BGE2) Looking at my gaming habits, the differences between the two machines aren't enough to excite me to get an Xbox as well as a PS5. I'd only do it if MS came up with some incredibly awesome exclusive game.

@gollumb82
Same here. I recently had a clear out and sold the Discs in ebay. I'd play it again. It's definitely worth re-releasing

This is a fun game. I have it on my Android tablet - though it's black and white line images there.
It's more of a meditative activity., when you know you have nothing else to do and can use it to pass the time.

At last. How long has it been. Well, I can now celebrate my retirement and use my bus pass to go see the film at a discounted rate.

I can't help but wonder if all these sales and discounts are a portent of a fire sale before the PS5 arrives on shelves.
Be good to know if we can re-download already purchased games onto the new machine when it arrives

No worries, there's enough coming along and enough to be having fun with in the meantime.

Quality of Life eh?
What I'd like is for the tea to stay hotter for longer in the mug.