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It's sad news. The bigger the corporate buyouts the greater loss of creative freedom and input employed developers have to add a more grounded, individual style to the game as they become cogs in a machine steered by profit driven execs.
It seems to me that, Ubisoft, like Naughty Dog before them trod a fine path between the two but were misstepped by internal and external forces with other agendas

After seeing the trailer (or was it trailers?) It was obvious the game was going to be DOA.

Whatever happens to Beyond Good and Evil 2?
A remaster of Resistance: Fall of Man would be most welcome

@thefourfoldroot1
Mirrors my experience and feeling about all three games.

Hope to God Amazon don't pick it up for a series and turn it into a dog's dinner

@Dudditz09 Agreed 100%. If anything, my next purchase for more fun out of gaming will be a better quality 4K TV, probably mini-led to replace my Sony LED backlit one.

Seems more hyped game than normal are turning out to be DOA. Anthem, Forespoken, Avengers, that Werewolf game, and now this. You'd think lessons would have been learned after the Avengers debacle. I know it's a risk putting out new titles, but developers are shooting themselves in the foot in a dozen different ways. What's going on?

I can see why they chose these 'off-the-shelf[ characters.
The colourful, dynamic graphics, gameplay, weapons and character designs look like real fun. Unfortunately using DC world to put the theory into practice is a double-edged sword. I'm pretty sure it would have been more successful if it was an all-original world and characters.

The gameplay and the environment/world does look truly impressive. Downside for me is the creatures. They ruin it for me. They look over-designed, with far too many 'unique' features and details. Like the artists decided to put every design idea in there

I'm out. I've had every playstation from 1 to 5.
Bought an Xbox X just for Starfield and subscribed to game pass to get the game free - and found a few truly excellent game pass games along the way. I'm sticking with game pass and ditching ps plus which I'd been subscribed to since day one.

@UnusedBabyWipes Agreed. Resistance all the way.

Yarrrh, this 'ere be bad tidings

@pharos_haven. But after the game ends and credits roll, the game puts you back "Nocturne OP55N1 at the entrance to Arasaka Tower for the meet again.

@pharos_haven Agreed. I was wondering how they were going to bring Johnny Silverhand back into the story. Perhaps this is why, when we finished the original game, we could go back and complete the final mission again.

@BadPlayerOne Yes, that's the first thing that came to mind.
I'll be pre-ordering this one.

@grimgaming Same here. Measuring up space under the TV for an Xbox X. That and a Game pass is a no brainer

I watched both, original and remake. - Yes, I'm a gaming geezer. Fuji 9

@AndyKazama I guess it prevents people from buying the physical Collector's edition, keeping all the collectibles then selling the disc on - making them lose a potential sale. The greedy Bsrds.

@tallythwack Randal and Hopkirk (Deceased) Oh I remember it well, watched it religiously. Oh for Bob Mortimer to be in a game. He is our Robin Williams. His slots in 'Would I Lie to You' are the funniest things you'll see on panel quiz shows. Nothing comes close. For those of you out there who are unfamiliar, seek the compilations on youtube.

I'm going to give Jurassic World 2 a shot as Jeff Goldblum is GOAT. He brings magic to everything he does. Trek to Yomi also seems worth having a go at.
Nothing noticeable but interesting enough from a curiosity / try somethin new angle

@naruball Wasn't there a Bruce Springsteen song. Born to Moan?

So that's a yes.

This and Black Myth Wukong, I'll believe the hype when I see 100% accurate delivery - the game working exactly as seen - and the full game working on home consoles. Until then, I'm not wasting time on it. This kind of hype is all too common.

@DualWielding Nailed it!

@Nepp67 I couldn't agree more.
@Andy22385 I doubt it. I suspect her idiolect and dialect is more a creation of what the adult writer/writers team imagined such a person would speak like.

@Beerheadgamer82 Couldn't agree more. I spent way too many hours on Resistance FOM split-screen PVP and Resistance 2 co-op. Resistance 3 wasn't one of my favourites.

@Fight_Teza_Fight Ah, okay, thanks. But being a PS guy so far (thinking of getting an Xbox) my range is limited.

@Ultrasmiles Ghost of Tsushima Good call.
It's tough deciding when there are some great games from the early days that, even not having the graphics of today, still were fantastic experiences, with great characters, story, gameplay and a ton of fun.

I'm guessing First Party, PS exclusives, Resistance Fall of Man, Uncharted.

@GADG3Tx87 Totally agree. Unless the hardware has some unique, game related feature, it's really not worth it. Or maybe if you don't have a console and coincidentally are thinking of getting one the same time the game is released - bizarre as it may seem since odds would make this highly improbable.

@burning_as_souls Perhaps you are right. I only played the free demo and was totally put off by the dialogue. I was looking forward to the game if not for the unbearable dialogue between Frey and Cuff, I would have very likely bought it.

@ShadowofSparta Agreed. There are bad writers and there are good writers. Both kinds have some level of understanding about the complexity of Story in game: Characters, plot, story arcs, narrative, dialogue, relationships, etc. It's a fine balance getting all these together into a congruent whole. Some writers are better at one aspect and not the other. You've all referred to games where this didn't come together. Forespoken is a great example. It's an old story (nothing wrong with that) but one told badly in so many ways. A great story can be buried by awful designed game play but an awful story cannot elevate a beautiful game that has great mechanics etc.

@BeerIsAwesome
Hahaha. Brilliant. So true.

@GreatAuk
Thanks for that. Good to know

@Gamer_Guy Is this because you completed the first Horizon game?
The reason I ask is because much as I enjoyed the first game and continued exploring after I finished, the thought of doing the same round again had no appeal for me.
Or is the sequel different enough to make the world worth going back into?

@ChakaL00T
Agreed. Guardians of the Galaxy was a hoot on PS5.
I played the Avengers demo, it was bloody awful

Wow, and I thought my aim and hold was below par.

@BleedingDreamer
I play it on a PS5 and have no problems with it at all. No crashes, no screen tear. It's all good

Just to clarify, According to Steam there are 13k+ players of Cyberpunk 2077 as of 29th March and over 30k according to Playercounter.com. These are healthy numbers and a clear indication and reassuring justification that the game has a promising future. So much so that CDPR are willing to invest resources into developing the next iteration of the game with a new software engine. No doubt the naysayers will find fault somewhere but the facts of the game's recent popularity and success speak for themselves.

@GrimReaper
Y'know there's this thing called Google that can answer all kinds of questions. Like finding out that CDPR stock price is higher than Ubisoft, whose market price is at a seven year low.

@GrimReaper
It's truly tragic that there are people who suffered such trauma through their experiences of Cyberpunk 2077. Clearly no one should endure the anguish and betrayal of having to play a game that fell so short of a global gaming communities astronomical expectations of absolute perfection. There should be a support group, nay a national enquiry conducted by the most eminent experts in the field as to why this happened and put measures into place to ensure it never happens again.
Or people could just not play the game and move on with their lives.

@GrimReaper Lowest was 77.89 in September, Now at 109. Sure not as high as this time last year but still an improvement. Aren't we past the era of pulling speculative percentage figures out of thin air?

@MasterEMFG Agreed. Pressure of investors to see a return can really F** up a game's progress to fruition.

@GrimReaper
Destroyed CDPR? That couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, all the evidence indicates the firm has learned and grown stronger for it.

For all its early faults Cyberpunk 2077 is a top notch game which became even more rewarding as improvements were made and bugs were fixed. The look and feel of Night City is a phenomenal accomplishment. It's easy to criticise the flaws, but a project this big is not going to happen without mistakes along the way - it's better than having an empty or virtually empty urban environments like you get in other games.
Having been a gamer since the days of the Commodore 64 and seen the evolution of gaming worlds through the years, I've come to respect the progress made by both game and hardware developers.
It seem the better and richer the online worlds and games become, the greater are the expectation of gamers - to the point where they lose all sense of the challenges faced by developers to deliver a richer gaming experience and what's possible given real world constraints. CDPR should be praised for what they reached for and achieved.

Are squeeze gaps sizist?

@GorosBat Outside is overrated

@themightyant Agree to all of that. Can be used for narrative, pacing and creative reasons.

@IslandLogic
They left out the ol after the B in Blockchain.