@DualWielding Final Fantasy and Stray are both console exclusive. I'm also fairly certain Street Fighter 6 will also stay exclusive given how well 5 did as PS4 only.
@WizzNL you are wasting your time trying to use logic and facts with them. It won't work, they will just shift to complaining about something else Sony isn't doing properly...
@NEStalgia I mean... holding out hope that Sony is going to deliver another show like the 2015 E3 with Shenmue, FF7R, Last Guardian, all back to back is going to always result in disappointment.
Things are changing, and we have to accept that E3 is dead. The only one holding on to it is Microsoft, and we will have to wait and see what happens there, because even as a series x owner, I have until to be impressed with a Microsoft conference. It's always CGI Trailer with no gameplay, no date, and then we are told to keep waiting year after year.
They may have bought a bunch of studios but hellblade 2 has been in development forever and still doesn't have a date. Fable... enough said...(I want the game but I'll believe it when I see gameplay). And now perfect dark is in development hell.
E3 doesn't work the way it used to anymore. You can't just give a cgi trailer and nothing else. You need to deliver. Which is why you are seeing more companies do smaller shows and starting to not announce games until they are absolutely ready.
There have been 28 delays already this year... do we really want more? Just for the sake of being satiated at all times? Why do we need to know everything RIGHT NOW?
Nobody is ever happy because Sony didn't show EXACTLY what they expected them to.
SPOILER ALERT: Sony is a business, they are going to do what is best for business. If they want to do a state of play focused on 3rd party fine by me, just means when we get a little later down the road and they want to focus on exclusive first party stuff, it hasn't been spoiled or isn't a repeat of a trailer we've seen 500 times... (looking at you deathloop)
@NEStalgia you are right, announcing both Spiderman 2, and Wolverine, showing God of war, having the first reveal trailer for Alan wake remastered, giving release dates for Gran tourism, trailers for guardians of the galaxy, among other things was definitely not a big showcase... 🙄
@Enigk don't forget, they also can't have anything that caters to anyone else's tastes. Only my specific taste in games can be announced. If they announce a single thing I don't like I'm never buying a Sony product again.
@Enuo I'm with you. The comments are SO negative all the time.
You would think that people would be happy we are getting announcements but nope, gotta be mad because it's 3rd party.
We know from the past 2 years Sony will do a first party playstation showcase. They aren't going to mess with that and put first party games in a quick 30 min state of play.
Wow... the event hasn't even happened yet and people are already somehow disappointed... im officially convinced that nothing makes you guys happy...
Just because they aren't showing first party games, doesn't mean God of War is delayed. It's been quite common for them to do single state of plays dedicated to first party games, they will most likely do one for GOW.
ALSO... as others have said, Sony has transitioned from doing their BIG showcases in the summer/E3 time to End of August/September...
It's time a lot of people on this site learn that just because YOU want them to give you everything right now doesn't mean they have to.
So once again people are complaining about Sony doing stuff to get more revenue and increase market share...but clearly don't understand how business works.
Here is a quick math lesson for you...
Let's say Sony has 4 console games and 2 PC games planned for release in 2024. Sony then decides it wants to ADD 2 mobile games to the release schedule. That makes a total of 8 games planned for release. Guess what! Those 2 mobile games that they added are 25% of their release schedule.
The article isn't stating that Sony is stopping development of console games. Sony also said during the investor call that they are looking to partner with mobile developers. This is so they are not adding work to their first party studios that takes away from major tentpole releases.
If you don't like mobile don't buy it, but don't act like a company trying to strengthen its market share is a bad thing.
@get2sammyb maybe the solution is to stop clutching at every scrap of intel you get until you have a full picture.
Listen I LOVE playstation. I have since I got the PsOne all those years ago when it launched.
I agree that the launch hasn't gone smoothly, but that being said, all the negativity about the list of games was unreal. Sony literally said we will add more games soon and users were losing their minds because it wasn't the 700 games promised.
I get that as a news site you have to report on it, so my comment isn't REALLY directed at pushsquare overall and more to the overall community.
At the end of the day these things are not as big of an issue as they are being made out to be. Especially now that this billing issue has been resolved.
Whether it was an accident or it was intentional (I'm 99.99% sure it was not intentional) it doesn't matter anymore because it's been rectified.
Maybe as a community all of us, journalists included, we need to look at things more holistically and say, "hmmm is this really the hill I need to die on?" Or "is this really THAT big of a deal now?"
Just saying I've seen this community turn SO negative lately, every little thing is scrutinized to the enth degree when it doesn't need to be.
People turned this into way more than it needed to be. This whole launch people have complained about every single aspect of it.
Not enough games listed right away Not enough classic games They promised over 700 games and only announced 250!!!
And now this...
I will say this again for everyone in the back to hear.
No service has ever launched without issues. This is a tech industry. Tech issues happen.
Having worked for an industry that relies heavily on tech I can say with 100% certainty that sometimes the wildest thing you never thought would even be an issue pops up on launch day and causes chaos, or some sort of malfunction.
When that happens you then have to look for the solution... these things take time. It's not a matter of just flipping a switch like some people here seem to believe. It's also certainly not an issue where Sony deliberately did this on purpose to try and sneak more money out of people just to be greedy.
@KayOL77 everyone knows that there can be no further updates once an initial announcement is made. It's even more set in stone when the company in question even provides a note saying "more will be announced soon".
That's how you know for sure there won't be any more updates at all.
@UltimateOtaku91 absolutely. I think there is some legitimate feedback that they will need to act on too.
It's not a perfect service yet but it's shaping up to be a decent competitor to gamepass.
The ps4 remasters being locked behind the highest tier is my biggest issue at the moment, but that could just be down to a listing error and might get sorted out.
@UltimateOtaku91 exactly... people just need to calm TF down and wait a bit longer. ESPECIALLY if this list is not even in their region.
I'm certain as more regions are opened up, more games will be added. I'm also certain thst over the coming days the current list will grow.
Like I said above no service has ever launched without issues day one.
Am I hoping we will get some classics like Legend of Dragoon, Tenchu, and Legacy of Kain? ABSOLUTELY. Will it be the end of the world if I don't get those? Nope because I already have too many games to play as is 🤣.
Second of all... you still haven't answered the question... are you in Hong Kong or Asia? If not I'll say it again... sit back down and wait until the full complete list is posted.
Even if you are in Asia they clearly said more titles will be added soon. Netflix didn't just launch with every single thing that was planned to be avaliable in the first month on day 1. Neither did the oh so revered gamepass.
You are whining for the sake of whining and getting called out by numerous people for it.
@IonMagi are you in Hong Kong? Are you incapable of understanding what "more games will be added soon" means? Do you know about the various intricacies of licensing titles across various continents and regions?
Sit back down and wait until the service has been fully launched.
It's day one for crying out loud. Name one service that launched flawlessly on day one without a single issue.
@IonMagi it's incredible that you are still on this kick...
The article states "not a complete lisr" also this is in Asia where some areas don't have streaming. ALSO they said more will be added soon.
Maybe if I say this once again it will finally stick with you. Wait until the full list for YOUR REGION is posted before getting your panties in a twist.
For the love of God you are one of the most negative people on this site.
If when the final list is posted you still aren't satisfied by all means whine and complain all you want. Til then you are just working yourself up for nothing.
Microsoft would have been just as bad as activision for Spiderman. I have a series x and a ps5 so this isn't about a console war. Microsoft just doesn't put the required amount of effort into their games to make them bangers like Sony does.
@Rural-Bandit defend him all you want... I have only heard his name thrown around over the last 2-3 years, and in that time I have heard him say 1 thing that was accurate.
It's always the same story with Jeff Grubb... "something might happen in the next few weeks"... 2 hours later... I know I said something might happen but also something might not happen.
As much as I do not love the fact that they keep diving deeper into mythological stuff in assassins creed, I have to say thst trailer was sick and I am excited to go back to valhalla.
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Re: PS5, PS4 Horror Game The Callisto Protocol Dated for December 2022
Man...
Calisto Protocol - December
Dead Space Remake - January
Resident Evil 4 Remake - March
I CANT WAIT!!
Re: Poll: Did Sony's Latest State of Play Livestream Live Up to the Hype?
@awp69 okay cool didn't know that.
Re: Poll: Did Sony's Latest State of Play Livestream Live Up to the Hype?
@DualWielding Final Fantasy and Stray are both console exclusive. I'm also fairly certain Street Fighter 6 will also stay exclusive given how well 5 did as PS4 only.
Re: Final Fantasy XVI Finally Comes to PS5 in Summer 2023
Wow, epic trailer.
Re: Poll: Did Sony's Latest State of Play Livestream Live Up to the Hype?
It was a great show. Unfortunately people are still going to gripe about it.
Re: Talking Point: State of Play Predictions - What Do You Expect?
@get2sammyb well that's disappointing
Re: Talking Point: State of Play Predictions - What Do You Expect?
@get2sammyb I saw a rumor on Twitter today that Bloodborne remastered is coming.
https://twitter.com/Nlbellion/status/1531292747012919296?s=20&t=z5dg8gxnxTQDtD2Ui7r2xg
Not sure how reliable the info is, but I seem to remember Nibel popping up a few times with pretty reliable news. Soooo fingers crossed.
If this is announced I'm sure a lot of the Nay-Sayers from the announcement post may change their tunes.
Re: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Revealed for PS5, Out Next Year
Loved the first one. Day 1 buy for me.
Re: State of Play Showcase for Thursday Confirmed, PSVR2 Games Included
@WaveBoy I tried RE7 in VR... I had to stop. I was borderline crawling out of my chair 🤣🤣
I LOVE horror but that was a little too much for me
Re: State of Play Showcase for Thursday Confirmed, PSVR2 Games Included
@WizzNL you are wasting your time trying to use logic and facts with them. It won't work, they will just shift to complaining about something else Sony isn't doing properly...
Re: State of Play Showcase for Thursday Confirmed, PSVR2 Games Included
@NEStalgia I mean... holding out hope that Sony is going to deliver another show like the 2015 E3 with Shenmue, FF7R, Last Guardian, all back to back is going to always result in disappointment.
Things are changing, and we have to accept that E3 is dead. The only one holding on to it is Microsoft, and we will have to wait and see what happens there, because even as a series x owner, I have until to be impressed with a Microsoft conference. It's always CGI Trailer with no gameplay, no date, and then we are told to keep waiting year after year.
They may have bought a bunch of studios but hellblade 2 has been in development forever and still doesn't have a date. Fable... enough said...(I want the game but I'll believe it when I see gameplay). And now perfect dark is in development hell.
E3 doesn't work the way it used to anymore. You can't just give a cgi trailer and nothing else. You need to deliver. Which is why you are seeing more companies do smaller shows and starting to not announce games until they are absolutely ready.
There have been 28 delays already this year... do we really want more? Just for the sake of being satiated at all times? Why do we need to know everything RIGHT NOW?
Re: State of Play Showcase for Thursday Confirmed, PSVR2 Games Included
@RevGaming CALM DOWN!!!
Re: State of Play Showcase for Thursday Confirmed, PSVR2 Games Included
@WadeIsInsane yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuppp...
Nobody is ever happy because Sony didn't show EXACTLY what they expected them to.
SPOILER ALERT: Sony is a business, they are going to do what is best for business. If they want to do a state of play focused on 3rd party fine by me, just means when we get a little later down the road and they want to focus on exclusive first party stuff, it hasn't been spoiled or isn't a repeat of a trailer we've seen 500 times... (looking at you deathloop)
Re: State of Play Showcase for Thursday Confirmed, PSVR2 Games Included
@RevGaming yea I hear that everyone is going to walk away disappointed and probably be forced to toss their ps5 out the window
Re: State of Play Showcase for Thursday Confirmed, PSVR2 Games Included
@Titntin brilliantly stated
Re: State of Play Showcase for Thursday Confirmed, PSVR2 Games Included
@JJ2 hahaha I can see why you would think that 🤣
Re: State of Play Showcase for Thursday Confirmed, PSVR2 Games Included
@NEStalgia you are right, announcing both Spiderman 2, and Wolverine, showing God of war, having the first reveal trailer for Alan wake remastered, giving release dates for Gran tourism, trailers for guardians of the galaxy, among other things was definitely not a big showcase... 🙄
I see your sense of entitlement is strong...
Re: State of Play Showcase for Thursday Confirmed, PSVR2 Games Included
@Enigk don't forget, they also can't have anything that caters to anyone else's tastes. Only my specific taste in games can be announced. If they announce a single thing I don't like I'm never buying a Sony product again.
Re: State of Play Showcase for Thursday Confirmed, PSVR2 Games Included
@Enuo I'm with you. The comments are SO negative all the time.
You would think that people would be happy we are getting announcements but nope, gotta be mad because it's 3rd party.
We know from the past 2 years Sony will do a first party playstation showcase. They aren't going to mess with that and put first party games in a quick 30 min state of play.
People just need to CALM DOWN
Re: State of Play Showcase for Thursday Confirmed, PSVR2 Games Included
Wow... the event hasn't even happened yet and people are already somehow disappointed... im officially convinced that nothing makes you guys happy...
Just because they aren't showing first party games, doesn't mean God of War is delayed. It's been quite common for them to do single state of plays dedicated to first party games, they will most likely do one for GOW.
ALSO... as others have said, Sony has transitioned from doing their BIG showcases in the summer/E3 time to End of August/September...
It's time a lot of people on this site learn that just because YOU want them to give you everything right now doesn't mean they have to.
Grow up.
Re: Looks Like Sony Will Stop Making PS4 Games by 2025
So once again people are complaining about Sony doing stuff to get more revenue and increase market share...but clearly don't understand how business works.
Here is a quick math lesson for you...
Let's say Sony has 4 console games and 2 PC games planned for release in 2024. Sony then decides it wants to ADD 2 mobile games to the release schedule. That makes a total of 8 games planned for release. Guess what! Those 2 mobile games that they added are 25% of their release schedule.
The article isn't stating that Sony is stopping development of console games. Sony also said during the investor call that they are looking to partner with mobile developers. This is so they are not adding work to their first party studios that takes away from major tentpole releases.
If you don't like mobile don't buy it, but don't act like a company trying to strengthen its market share is a bad thing.
Re: Sony Officially Backtracks on PS Plus Discount Scandal, Says It Was an Error
@get2sammyb maybe the solution is to stop clutching at every scrap of intel you get until you have a full picture.
Listen I LOVE playstation. I have since I got the PsOne all those years ago when it launched.
I agree that the launch hasn't gone smoothly, but that being said, all the negativity about the list of games was unreal. Sony literally said we will add more games soon and users were losing their minds because it wasn't the 700 games promised.
I get that as a news site you have to report on it, so my comment isn't REALLY directed at pushsquare overall and more to the overall community.
At the end of the day these things are not as big of an issue as they are being made out to be. Especially now that this billing issue has been resolved.
Whether it was an accident or it was intentional (I'm 99.99% sure it was not intentional) it doesn't matter anymore because it's been rectified.
Maybe as a community all of us, journalists included, we need to look at things more holistically and say, "hmmm is this really the hill I need to die on?" Or "is this really THAT big of a deal now?"
Just saying I've seen this community turn SO negative lately, every little thing is scrutinized to the enth degree when it doesn't need to be.
Re: Sony Officially Backtracks on PS Plus Discount Scandal, Says It Was an Error
Okay let's try this again...
People turned this into way more than it needed to be. This whole launch people have complained about every single aspect of it.
Not enough games listed right away
Not enough classic games
They promised over 700 games and only announced 250!!!
And now this...
I will say this again for everyone in the back to hear.
No service has ever launched without issues. This is a tech industry. Tech issues happen.
Having worked for an industry that relies heavily on tech I can say with 100% certainty that sometimes the wildest thing you never thought would even be an issue pops up on launch day and causes chaos, or some sort of malfunction.
When that happens you then have to look for the solution... these things take time. It's not a matter of just flipping a switch like some people here seem to believe. It's also certainly not an issue where Sony deliberately did this on purpose to try and sneak more money out of people just to be greedy.
Things happen. It's not the end of the world.
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Re: Rumour: Looks Like PS1 Classic Dino Crisis Is Joining the PS Plus Premium Lineup
@KayOL77 everyone knows that there can be no further updates once an initial announcement is made. It's even more set in stone when the company in question even provides a note saying "more will be announced soon".
That's how you know for sure there won't be any more updates at all.
Re: Rumour: Looks Like PS1 Classic Dino Crisis Is Joining the PS Plus Premium Lineup
But but... I thought the list published from the Asia region was the "final list" <end sarcasm>
Re: PS Plus Games for Asia Officially Confirmed
@UltimateOtaku91 absolutely. I think there is some legitimate feedback that they will need to act on too.
It's not a perfect service yet but it's shaping up to be a decent competitor to gamepass.
The ps4 remasters being locked behind the highest tier is my biggest issue at the moment, but that could just be down to a listing error and might get sorted out.
Re: PS Plus Games for Asia Officially Confirmed
@UltimateOtaku91 exactly... people just need to calm TF down and wait a bit longer. ESPECIALLY if this list is not even in their region.
I'm certain as more regions are opened up, more games will be added. I'm also certain thst over the coming days the current list will grow.
Like I said above no service has ever launched without issues day one.
Am I hoping we will get some classics like Legend of Dragoon, Tenchu, and Legacy of Kain? ABSOLUTELY. Will it be the end of the world if I don't get those? Nope because I already have too many games to play as is 🤣.
Re: PS Plus Games for Asia Officially Confirmed
@Stocksy sadly this is going to be the mentality of a lot of people...
Side note... GIVE ME TENCHU YOU COWARDS!!!
Re: PS Plus Games for Asia Officially Confirmed
@IonMagi first of all don't "Bro" me...
Second of all... you still haven't answered the question... are you in Hong Kong or Asia? If not I'll say it again... sit back down and wait until the full complete list is posted.
Even if you are in Asia they clearly said more titles will be added soon. Netflix didn't just launch with every single thing that was planned to be avaliable in the first month on day 1. Neither did the oh so revered gamepass.
You are whining for the sake of whining and getting called out by numerous people for it.
Get over it and move on.
Re: PS Plus Games for Asia Officially Confirmed
@WizzNL it's not about them not wanting to understand its about them needing a soapbox to stand on and shout about something
Re: PS Plus Games for Asia Officially Confirmed
@IonMagi are you in Hong Kong? Are you incapable of understanding what "more games will be added soon" means? Do you know about the various intricacies of licensing titles across various continents and regions?
Sit back down and wait until the service has been fully launched.
It's day one for crying out loud. Name one service that launched flawlessly on day one without a single issue.
Re: PS Plus Games for Asia Officially Confirmed
@IonMagi it's incredible that you are still on this kick...
The article states "not a complete lisr" also this is in Asia where some areas don't have streaming. ALSO they said more will be added soon.
Maybe if I say this once again it will finally stick with you. Wait until the full list for YOUR REGION is posted before getting your panties in a twist.
For the love of God you are one of the most negative people on this site.
If when the final list is posted you still aren't satisfied by all means whine and complain all you want. Til then you are just working yourself up for nothing.
Re: Spider-Man Games Could Have Been Exclusive to Xbox
Microsoft would have been just as bad as activision for Spiderman. I have a series x and a ps5 so this isn't about a console war. Microsoft just doesn't put the required amount of effort into their games to make them bangers like Sony does.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 427
@LiamCroft I also decided to return to my playthrough of FF13 this weekend.
Re: Astro Bot Gets the Nendoroid Treatment with Fantastic Figurine
I'm going to need to get this one! Looks amazing!
Re: You May Already Own Some of the Retro PS Plus Titles
@Would_you_kindly that doesn't mean that those are all of the games that are coming over. It also doesn't mean that they won't only port those over.
All I am saying is the internet needs to calm down and wait until they have all of the info before freaking out.
Re: PS Plus Extra, Premium Tiers Will Be Refreshed Monthly with New Games
@jmac1686 I'll tell you the same thing I've told someone else...
Maybe wait until the full list is revealed before getting your panties in a twist...
It's pretty crazy how quickly people become outraged on the internet before having ALL of the information.
Re: You May Already Own Some of the Retro PS Plus Titles
@IonMagi seems like you are really grasping at straws here.
Fact: Sony has said there will be 400 games from the ps4/ps5 catalogue for the extra tier
Fact: Sony had said there will be more than 340 "classic" games from the ps1/2/3/psp
Fact: Sony said they will refresh these every month
Just calm down and wait til they announce the FULL line up before getting your panties in a bunch
Re: You May Already Own Some of the Retro PS Plus Titles
@IonMagi they said there were over 340 legacy titles being added...
The list provided today had what... 50 classics across psp, ps1, ps2, and ps3...
They gave you a taste of what's being added, and will probably announce more over the next week
Re: You May Already Own Some of the Retro PS Plus Titles
@IonMagi someone didn't read the whole article... the list provided today is just a partial list...
Re: Rumour: Sony Showcase Could Be Set for First Week of June
@JJ2 that's exactly it, he makes clickbait and EVERY gaming site eats it up as if it's gospel.
Re: Rumour: Sony Showcase Could Be Set for First Week of June
@Rural-Bandit defend him all you want... I have only heard his name thrown around over the last 2-3 years, and in that time I have heard him say 1 thing that was accurate.
It's always the same story with Jeff Grubb... "something might happen in the next few weeks"... 2 hours later... I know I said something might happen but also something might not happen.
Re: Rumour: Sony Showcase Could Be Set for First Week of June
@Oh_fiddlesticks I was thinking the same thing. Jeff Grubb is probably the least reliable source there is, outside of my uncle who works at Sony...
I wouldn't take anything he says as fact at all...
Re: Rumour: PS Plus Premium's PS1, PS2, PSP Games Have Started to Leak
@Shepherd_Tallon having the entire Tenchu series available would get me to sub instantly.
Re: Assassin's Creed Valhalla Dawn of Ragnarok Expansion Launches March 2022
As much as I do not love the fact that they keep diving deeper into mythological stuff in assassins creed, I have to say thst trailer was sick and I am excited to go back to valhalla.
Re: Saints Row Grabs an Explosive New Gameplay Trailer
In what is surely an unpopular opinion on this game. It looks good. Excited for it to launch.
Re: Skyrim Patch Incoming, Fixes Black Screen Bug and Other Tech Issues on PS5, PS4
@iamtylerdurden1 preach
Re: Skyrim Patch Incoming, Fixes Black Screen Bug and Other Tech Issues on PS5, PS4
@IAmGamer2022 you mean some people aren't worth talking to when they don't share your exact opinion.
All good though. Take care