The fact that it might come out after 2027 is a massive joke. By the time it releases, we'll be getting the PS6. ðŸ˜
This is also why long development times is bad and Sony's refusal to make AA games in between big releases hurts them. Maybe PS5 would've been worth playing while waiting for the big AAA exclusives.
It was boring. The only interesting things were Split Fiction, and I guess Sonic Racing CrossWorld. (But that's a whole separate topic)
Also, why did they end with a new IP with no gameplay and instead a CG trailer of a generic guy with a gun looking at an enemy? That's not exciting at all and mind as well not include it in the show.
Overall, it was poor. But that's already expected for most State of Play presentations. 5/10
@cali_kush70 Well said. Sony's arrogance from PS2 to PS3 is back and it's even worse than ever. I truly hope the PS5 Pro serves as a wake up call for Sony and start being pro consumer again.
@JokerBoy322 Exactly! PS4 was criticized for using a Jaguar CPU, which was already old when the PS4 and Xbone released. So PS4 Pro was definitely a welcome upgrade, was noticable and wasn't too expensive at all for what it offered. Especially amazing that it dropped the price of the base model.
@JokerBoy322 Nah, PS4 Pro did offered legitimate advantages by at least improving performance on many games. Plus the price was extremely respectable for $100 more from base PS4.
PS5 Pro truly doesn't offer anything new aside from extra details on games that still won't be 4K. Now that's a waste of money.
The PS5 Pro is really the most useless and unnecessary refresh to ever release in current history.
The base PS5 is still good enough for what it supposed to be doing, playing games. But even that is more questionable now that Sony is making more consoles than games.
The PS5 has yet to be used to its full advantage since all we keep getting are PS4 remasters and remakes.
It's also comedy gold how they're already talking about 8K when there's no viable 8K displays in the market at all. If the base PS5 couldn't even do proper 4K, what makes the Pro being able to do 8K? You really can't make this up.
Not to mention the lack of a disc drive is extremely concerning and clear that Sony is prioritizing digital. Especially since you cannot buy digital games outside of the PS Store where you can get games at a discount. Nintendo and Microsoft allows their digital games to be sold outside of the eShop and Xbox Store respectively. Why can't Sony? Because they want to monopolize the market at much as possible.
Overall, Sony has been very disappointing, anti-consumer, greedy, and arrogant. I truly hate this era of PlayStation.
It's just frustrating that Sony is legit holding back many third party developers because of their lack of first party exclusives.
SquareEnix and Atlus are perfect examples. So far many SE Games has been locked to PS4/5 and look where that's heading, a loss of over 200 million dollars.
In contrast with Atlus, now that they're free from PlayStation exclusivity and is bringing their games to many platforms as possible, the results speak for itself.
SquareEnix shouldn't be punished for Sony's lackluster generation.
The Vita was truly ahead of its time, but was handled poorly by Sony. Playing console quality games on the go was just too much for the thing. Then Sony just changed strategy with the Vita by advertising it as an accessory for the PS3 and PS4 rather than as its own device. Poor Vita, we hardly knew ye.
@NintendoFan4Lyf PC has proven to be a viable gaming platform since 1983, during the North American game crash. So it's not anything impressive with today since it's already the norm. And I know that technology advances pretty quickly, but not all devices can do everything perfectly. A phone is excellent at social elements, such as social media and of course to call. A handheld is the opposite of that. The PC is literally the only device that can literally do anything, but needs lots of horsepower to achieve it. Since a phone will always have limitations, it needs to focus on one thing.
@NintendoFan4Lyf Smartphones will never reach the power of a console. Current phones can barely run a PS2 game at medium settings. By the time a phone can play PS4 games, home consoles and even handhelds will be much more ahead.
And the thing is about smartphones is that it's a casual device. Looking at the top 10 apps and games on both App Store and Google Play, they're all free to play games like Candy Crush. You think a hardcore gamer will play a game like that? Of course not. A dedicated gaming device is much better to play games on than a smartphone. Casuals won't need it because they only play video games for a couple of minutes. Smartphones does that perfectly.
It's the first time that a Nintendo handheld didn't outsell its predecessor, and there are reasons why aside from the rise of smartphones. At the end, still did better than a lot of people expected. Why did it still sold decent even during the age of smartphones? Because Nintendo supported it. Sony abandoned the Vita in less than a year, before the PS4 was even released. Don't blame the market because of Sony's failure.
And by looking at sales data, the Switch still currently outpacing the Wii, which is the second best selling home console of all time. At the current rate of the Switch, it will not only outsell the DS, but also the Wii. That's only an if statement and things will change in the future, but even after 6 months in the market and shows no sign of slowing down.
@johncalmc Just because it sold less doesn't mean a market is drying. Vita failed because Sony failed to keep it alive. 3DS still did good overall, especially during a time with casual gaming at its peak with smartphones.
@johncalmc The 3DS had a rough start while the PS4 had an amazing start because of the One's terrible reveal and E3. Opposite start but end up having same sales. And 3DS sales started to slow down because of the Switch. PS4 sales will also slow down if Sony revealed a PS5 around this time. (But we won't be seeing it for a year or two.)
@johncalmc
By your logic, the PS4 failed as the successor to the PS3. It still hasn't reached PS3 sales and not even close to PS2 sales, hell even PS1 sales for that matters.
By all of your logic, console gaming will die in favor of PC gaming.
The thing is, Nintendo always had a different approach to handhelds ever since the Game and Watch during the early 80s. Switch already has potential.
Vita also had potential, but was mistreated and poorly executed. And it's not the Vita's fault, it's Sony's. The whole excuse of smartphones is irrelevant. The same could be said for the 3DS and look how it turned out.
It's not the market that hurt them, it's the way how they treated the market.
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Re: 'The Number of Live Service Games Is Not Important': PS5 Boss Gives Rare Insight into Strategy
Ignoring the success of Astro Bot while doubling down on another Concord.
Get that man away from PlayStation. He's the sole reason why the PS5 era has been beyond mediocre.
Re: Ambitious, AAA PS5 Exclusive to Deliver Ground-Breaking Story and Atmosphere
Yawn. I'll wait until actual gameplay is shown.
Re: Just Like the Game, The Last of Us 2's TV Adaptation Is Getting Review Bombed
The game had bad writing. I was hoping if the show would at least improve it, but no. Just as terrible.
Re: Days Gone PS5 Is a 'Really Good Piece of Work', Say Tech Experts
Adding a color filter suddenly make it impressive?
Standards really have gotten lower, huh?
Re: Poll: Are You Planning to Buy Bungie's Marathon?
Lmao, Sony didn't learn a thing from Concord. 😂
Re: Nintendo Is Displaying Hubris Which Would Make Even PS3 Era Sony Blush
Again, grasping straws here. 💀😂
Re: Feature: PS5's Not Perfect, But Here Are 5 Ways It's More Consumer Friendly Than Switch 2
Literally grasping straws here. 💀😂
Re: Insomniac Sounds Sick and Tired of People Demanding Wolverine PS5 News
Maybe don't announce a game way too early. 💀
The fact that it might come out after 2027 is a massive joke. By the time it releases, we'll be getting the PS6. ðŸ˜
This is also why long development times is bad and Sony's refusal to make AA games in between big releases hurts them. Maybe PS5 would've been worth playing while waiting for the big AAA exclusives.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Sony's State of Play for February 2025?
It was boring. The only interesting things were Split Fiction, and I guess Sonic Racing CrossWorld. (But that's a whole separate topic)
Also, why did they end with a new IP with no gameplay and instead a CG trailer of a generic guy with a gun looking at an enemy? That's not exciting at all and mind as well not include it in the show.
Overall, it was poor. But that's already expected for most State of Play presentations. 5/10
Re: Sony Confirms Interest in Buying FromSoftware Parent Company Kadokawa
I really don't want this acquisition to happen. It's bad news for everyone.
Re: Avatar Dev Will Let You Turn Off PSSR as It Fixes Poor PS5 Pro Patch
PS5 Pro isn't that "pro" after all. 💀
Hope that $700 was worth it. 😂
Re: Kadokawa Wants Sony's Full Commitment with Buyout of Entire Company
If Sony acquires it, we're cooked as both gaming and anime fans.
Re: Sony's Guerrilla Sounds Completely Done with the Killzone Series
They got Naughty Dog first, and now sadly Guerrilla joins the list of once goated studios that are now mid.
Re: Like It or Not, This Is Why PS5 Pro Doesn't Have a Disc Drive
It is pretty wild how PlayStation is adopting what Microsoft wanted to do with the launch of the Xbox One.
But also tbf, it's what the industry is sadly heading to.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Exec Shawn Layden Says There's Been a 'Collapse' in Gaming Creativity
@Pepsiman_100
Those games didn't rely on high end specs and did what was more important: fun gameplay.
If anything, indies and most AA games are thriving more than ever over AAA and even "AAAA" games.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Exec Shawn Layden Says There's Been a 'Collapse' in Gaming Creativity
Completely agreed with Layden. The chase for high end tech is driving costs way too high and is disrupting creativity. PS5 Pro is proof of that.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Showcases the Problem with Sony's Games on PS5 Pro
@cali_kush70
Well said. Sony's arrogance from PS2 to PS3 is back and it's even worse than ever. I truly hope the PS5 Pro serves as a wake up call for Sony and start being pro consumer again.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Showcases the Problem with Sony's Games on PS5 Pro
@JokerBoy322
Completely agreed. I'm not having much faith in PS6 already.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Showcases the Problem with Sony's Games on PS5 Pro
@JokerBoy322
Exactly! PS4 was criticized for using a Jaguar CPU, which was already old when the PS4 and Xbone released. So PS4 Pro was definitely a welcome upgrade, was noticable and wasn't too expensive at all for what it offered. Especially amazing that it dropped the price of the base model.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Showcases the Problem with Sony's Games on PS5 Pro
@JokerBoy322
Nah, PS4 Pro did offered legitimate advantages by at least improving performance on many games. Plus the price was extremely respectable for $100 more from base PS4.
PS5 Pro truly doesn't offer anything new aside from extra details on games that still won't be 4K. Now that's a waste of money.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Showcases the Problem with Sony's Games on PS5 Pro
This is exactly why the PS5 Pro is a waste of resources and fundamentally a useless upgrade.
PS5 games already look good. There's no need to add extra details that is pretty insignificant to gameplay.
Be smart and either don't upgrade if you already have a PS5, or just get the base model if you're planning to upgrade from last gen.
Re: PS5 Pro Boost Is Pretty Clear Cut in The Last of Us 2 Remastered Comparison Video
PS5 Pro is truly a waste of everything.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Sony's State of Play for September 2024?
I expected worse and as usual the third parties carried the presentation. Ghost sequel is a nice surprise though. Cought me off guard.
Slightly above mid.
Re: PS6 Is Already Deep in Development, Backwards Compatibility of High Importance
Can't wait to play a PS6 remaster of a PS5 game that was a PS4 remaster that was a sequel to a PS3 games from a PS2 game!
Re: Poll: Would You Buy PS5 Pro If It Was Cheaper?
The PS5 Pro is really the most useless and unnecessary refresh to ever release in current history.
The base PS5 is still good enough for what it supposed to be doing, playing games. But even that is more questionable now that Sony is making more consoles than games.
The PS5 has yet to be used to its full advantage since all we keep getting are PS4 remasters and remakes.
It's also comedy gold how they're already talking about 8K when there's no viable 8K displays in the market at all. If the base PS5 couldn't even do proper 4K, what makes the Pro being able to do 8K? You really can't make this up.
Not to mention the lack of a disc drive is extremely concerning and clear that Sony is prioritizing digital. Especially since you cannot buy digital games outside of the PS Store where you can get games at a discount. Nintendo and Microsoft allows their digital games to be sold outside of the eShop and Xbox Store respectively. Why can't Sony? Because they want to monopolize the market at much as possible.
Overall, Sony has been very disappointing, anti-consumer, greedy, and arrogant. I truly hate this era of PlayStation.
Re: PS5 Pro Can Run PS4 Games Better Via Improved Backwards Compatibility
PS5 was already the PS4 Pro 2.
So the PS5 Pro is really the PS4 Pro 3. 😂
Re: Poll: Are You Sold on PS5 Pro?
Another PlayStation L
Re: All PS5 Pro Compatible Games
Removed
Re: Talking Point: Can PS5, PC Shooter Concord Be Saved?
Pffffff! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Anyway, no.
Re: Concord (PS5) - Live Service Debut Beats the Hate with Stellar Presentation and Good Gameplay
@TooManyBrownies Exactly. If the game was released in 2017-2018, might've had a fair chance. But it's eight years too late.
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
@get2sammyb
You said, "Come back and post this comment when Switch has sold 100 million units."
Now that it may likely outsell the PS2, are you gonna be moving goal posts?
Re: Concord (PS5) - Live Service Debut Beats the Hate with Stellar Presentation and Good Gameplay
It's really upsetting that Factions and Great Web got cancelled in favor such mediocrity and generic hero shooter that feels outdated.
Typical PlayStation L.
Re: PS Stars Finally Coming Back Online in North and South America
I forgor this service existed. 💀
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
@get2sammyb
Switch is closer to reaching PS2. What's gonna happen now?
Re: PS Stars Is Back Online in Europe, Asia, Australia So Far
PlayStation Stars is an absolute mess.
Even My Nintendo doesn't go that bad, and we all know Nintendo's online services aren't exactly the best. 💀
Re: Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement Backtracked on PC After Brutal Review Bombing Campaign
@nomither6
It just feels like Sony has been more anti-everything these days, they make Apple look like angels.
Re: Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement Backtracked on PC After Brutal Review Bombing Campaign
Reading the comments, it's extremely concerning how people are defending Sony's anti-consumer and anti- competitive practices.
Re: Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement Backtracked on PC After Brutal Review Bombing Campaign
It's a victory not letting corporate greed take over.
Re: Talking Point: Have Sony's Third-Party PS5 Deals Made Up for Its Lack of First-Party Games?
It's just frustrating that Sony is legit holding back many third party developers because of their lack of first party exclusives.
SquareEnix and Atlus are perfect examples. So far many SE Games has been locked to PS4/5 and look where that's heading, a loss of over 200 million dollars.
In contrast with Atlus, now that they're free from PlayStation exclusivity and is bringing their games to many platforms as possible, the results speak for itself.
SquareEnix shouldn't be punished for Sony's lackluster generation.
Re: Don't Panic if Third-Party Games Aren't Immediately Announced for PS5, PS4 in the Aftermath of Xbox Showcase
Talk about damage control lmao
Re: Once Considered a PlayStation Competitor, Google Stadia Is Shutting Down
Stadia's marketing and strategy has always been bad. Should've went the route Microsoft went as used it as a companion to hardware, not to replace it.
Re: Soapbox: After the Vita's Failure, Why Do People Now Want Console Games on the Go?
The Vita was truly ahead of its time, but was handled poorly by Sony. Playing console quality games on the go was just too much for the thing. Then Sony just changed strategy with the Vita by advertising it as an accessory for the PS3 and PS4 rather than as its own device. Poor Vita, we hardly knew ye.
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
@NintendoFan4Lyf
PC has proven to be a viable gaming platform since 1983, during the North American game crash. So it's not anything impressive with today since it's already the norm. And I know that technology advances pretty quickly, but not all devices can do everything perfectly. A phone is excellent at social elements, such as social media and of course to call. A handheld is the opposite of that. The PC is literally the only device that can literally do anything, but needs lots of horsepower to achieve it. Since a phone will always have limitations, it needs to focus on one thing.
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
@NintendoFan4Lyf
Smartphones will never reach the power of a console. Current phones can barely run a PS2 game at medium settings. By the time a phone can play PS4 games, home consoles and even handhelds will be much more ahead.
And the thing is about smartphones is that it's a casual device. Looking at the top 10 apps and games on both App Store and Google Play, they're all free to play games like Candy Crush. You think a hardcore gamer will play a game like that? Of course not. A dedicated gaming device is much better to play games on than a smartphone. Casuals won't need it because they only play video games for a couple of minutes. Smartphones does that perfectly.
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
It's the first time that a Nintendo handheld didn't outsell its predecessor, and there are reasons why aside from the rise of smartphones. At the end, still did better than a lot of people expected. Why did it still sold decent even during the age of smartphones? Because Nintendo supported it. Sony abandoned the Vita in less than a year, before the PS4 was even released. Don't blame the market because of Sony's failure.
And by looking at sales data, the Switch still currently outpacing the Wii, which is the second best selling home console of all time. At the current rate of the Switch, it will not only outsell the DS, but also the Wii. That's only an if statement and things will change in the future, but even after 6 months in the market and shows no sign of slowing down.
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
@johncalmc
Just because it sold less doesn't mean a market is drying. Vita failed because Sony failed to keep it alive. 3DS still did good overall, especially during a time with casual gaming at its peak with smartphones.
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
@johncalmc
The 3DS had a rough start while the PS4 had an amazing start because of the One's terrible reveal and E3. Opposite start but end up having same sales. And 3DS sales started to slow down because of the Switch. PS4 sales will also slow down if Sony revealed a PS5 around this time. (But we won't be seeing it for a year or two.)
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
@Feena
Neither the PS4 trying to catch up with PS3 sales. Console gaming is dying then by your logic.
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
@johncalmc
By your logic, the PS4 failed as the successor to the PS3. It still hasn't reached PS3 sales and not even close to PS2 sales, hell even PS1 sales for that matters.
By all of your logic, console gaming will die in favor of PC gaming.
Re: Sony Doesn't See Much Potential in Portable Platforms
The thing is, Nintendo always had a different approach to handhelds ever since the Game and Watch during the early 80s. Switch already has potential.
Vita also had potential, but was mistreated and poorly executed. And it's not the Vita's fault, it's Sony's. The whole excuse of smartphones is irrelevant. The same could be said for the 3DS and look how it turned out.
It's not the market that hurt them, it's the way how they treated the market.