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Just pleased to see another game that isn't neutered by last gen compatibility. 👍

@Khayl thanks that's a good idea

Great, in-depth review. It looks and sounds amazing, but then so do a lot of games that I end up finding too complex and obtuse for me.

How does it compare with Pathfinder: Kingmaker, which is on PS+ Extra?

@WallyWest oh yeah I get it - I put in loads of hours early on in it but it is what it is and I've had my fill 😀

@zebric21 it's fun for a few hours after an update, but the longer you play the more the grind remains the same and the more time you waste chasing nothing of any importance.

it's like pulling on a piece of string with no end to it.

Hopefully Sony do something for real for her if/when they see this. Really nice story, and kudos to her too 👍

It beggars belief that they weren't doing this anyway.

@tomassi just tried HWU myself, glad I didn't buy it back in the day as pretty underwhelmed. even if you ignore the crass 'lucky boxes' thing the gameplay is just a bit meh tbh.

i tried it, have uninstalled it. no harm done. superhot is fun though.

It was only last week I was thinking that NMS hadn't had an update for a while...and here we are!

Streamlining the UI and game systems probably the best update they could do - it's not like there isn't enough content in the game, but it's all got a bit messy fitting it all together.

Probably won't play much though...I've done my time with NMS and enjoyed it for what it is.

Very nice. Giz a job?!

I loved all this stuff on the earlier generation machines and going back much earlier than that even (hello 80's) but now, with so much tied to online such as patches, firmwares, PSN accounts, sub services etc it's pretty pointless even if it did work on newer firmwares.

I suppose if you got a brand new machine and used it just for this there is a narrow use case there, but nah, not for me anymore this scene. I still do ok getting all my TV, films, music and software for nowt anyway.

@Titntin likewise, although since it's gone onto gamepass day one it may well find its way onto Extra in a few months.

If you want to buy, best to spend a little more and get it with the dino zoo add-on because it'll only be the base version if it comes to Extra.

@AnnetteM that's good to hear! did you get the base game or the one with the dinosaur zoo add-on?

I'm very interested in this....I think with the inevitable post-launch flurry of patches, this'll be really good in a month or so.

I mean, everyone knows Google are rolling in money...but refunding everyone for hardware and software is pretty incredible.

A lot of these are already on Extra, others likely will be on there within a few months. Not much in these sales will tempt me in future.

@Smiffy01 loving my indie games. as well as being a case of simply enjoying them a lot than AAA quite often, it also comes down to pricing. I don't buy many games at all now, especially post Extra, but I'm far more likely to drop fifteen or twenty quid for a decent indie than spending three times that for AAA

@themightyant not just you.

despite being very hyped before launch, I found the game to be simply middling to good and unlikely to be played again or even remembered particularly fondly compared to others.

glad it came straight to Extra though, perfect type of game for it.

Still waiting for the Sophy AI they talked about last year.

Not really my thing, but thanks to torrents I don't have to bother about subs to any of the streaming platforms so I'll grab this later and see what its like.

Moral of the story - don't upset the man babies!

@KaijuKaiser @Milktastrophe yep. there's little worse than someone who insists that different points of view are simply 'wrong' if they differ from their own.

I always find it amusing how angry disc lovers get in these comments about people who for whatever reason prefer digital games.

Enjoy your discs. Don't burst any more blood vessels on something that doesn't affect your lives, just because some people won't agree with you.

@Flaming_Kaiser you obviously haven't looked at the prices on the Turkey PSN store. Even day one digital there makes physical look laughably overpriced

@Stocksy Yep, too many man baby basement dwellers here and in the games media live so far away from the real world it's not even funny. Er guys, hacker released some files from a videogame, not anthrax.

Nah, won't miss it.

Wasn't exactly overwhelming, even as development vids. Ah well, that'll help keep any hype I might get under control. Wake me up in 2024/2025.

There are some seriously jealous babies in these comments today....just to annoy them more:

'what an awesome list of games and I am so pleased I own a Playstation 5'

@pumpkin_head that's my thinking now too. Even if there's a new game I really like, there's plenty of other stuff to play on Extra in lieu of it rather than pay full price (or any price, in fact). And get a better version than those early payers too when it reaches Extra.

There'll be the odd exception, but for me now, gaming has never been cheaper. Well, it has, but that's when I was out on the high seas in earlier gens.

hmmmm.... in UK it shows up under 'Premium' only, and only to stream on PS4 and not even download. Odd. I'll pass until this is sorted, if it ever is.

@BritneyfR_ee the way things are going, they'll still be bringing out PS4 versions even then. The machine that won't die.

@Cikajovazmaj probably because it's new to the Xbox platform altogether. For ps, just available on a new service

As someone who can't play first-person due to motion sickness, this news has made my day.

I must be fortunate to not give a ***** about Call Of Duty anymore, I guess.

All this crying over a bloated, has-been franchise.

No interest in owning PSVR2 myself, but I'll try my best to pre-order so I can scalp a couple of ***** via eBay or CeX.

My new mantra for sales:

'not since I've got Extra'

Shame, was hoping/expecting an Octopath Traveller announcement now that the second one is inbound.

@NEStalgia same here, although I switched to a 360 because the disc drive firmware was hacked (c4eva, wherever you are, thank you)

Nah. Put that money towards more Extra and play loads of (better) games. And it's doubtless where this pile will end up in short notice anyway.

@F1Fan Agree entirely. I feel a 7 would have been generous, and a 6 the very most it deserves.

I suspect Frontier had little choice but to release it when they did due to their contract with FIA, not that it excuses the state of the game after how long it has been in development.

@Terra Thanks. I can't speak for others, but my comment was certainly based on game in its current, most recently patched, state.

Unfortunately, the patches haven't solved the major issues here.

@bozz I'm a little annoyed at myself really, I almost always wait a few months before buying anything and then of course I'd have read all the stuff on Reddit and elsewhere and avoided. They got me as it combined two of my loves - F1, and management games. And PS5, so no refunds here for me unlike the fortunate PC players!

I hate to say it, but a lot of the media reviews were clearly written with either a few hours of play only, or (more likely), by reviewers who simply don't understand a lot of the intricacies of F1. Although I think almost anyone would discover the inherent problems in this game with a sustained period of play, F1 fan or not.

@bozz haha great minds think alike - you beat me to it by a minute, but same thoughts exactly and I'm glad it's not just me that felt an alternative viewpoint needed to be put forward.

Big fan of F1 and management games so of course I bought this - a rare day one purchase for me. Even rarer now with PS Extra. Kinda wish I hadn't

It appears to be amazing at first, let's be clear about that. However, within a couple of races things will begin to annoy and frustrate you.

You'll start skipping the practice sessions because they take too long but then get annoyed because your driver confidence and set-up isn't perfect because you haven't played the silly minigame with moving bars. You'll start simulating quali for same reason. You'll go from watching large parts of the race to running them all at 16x and still thinking it's taking too long. Tyre wear doesn't work correctly. Neither does fuel mode. Neither do the safety car rules (like in real F1 eh, Lewis). Drivers on out or in laps during quali don't move off line so can wreck your laps even if you do try to manage the sessions manually. Signing drivers recruits them immediately, no option for them to start for the next season. There are weird issues (exploits, really) regarding car design which I won't go into here.

For me, it all became a great faff without enough reward. And the old Motorsport Manager game never felt like that, which is very odd.

I wished for a new F1 management game for years. Be careful what you wish for. Game deleted off console already. Hope this counterpoint comment at least gives potential buyers pause for thought.

Shame 'folders' really aren't. Was looking forward to using them to help with Extra lists and my backlog.

I mean, I still can...but so much less intuitive than on PS4.

@Ooccoo_Jr Exactly this. Before Extra, I'd probably have bought Death's Door and The Ascent at these prices but now, nah.

In fact, the couple of games I have bought recently, I haven't enjoyed any more than the ones I've dipped into on Extra (of which there are many many more I have yet to play)....so what's the point. Either wait for these to hit Extra, or just play other stuff on it anyway.

Extra is killing both my desire to buy new games, and my FOMO for sales. Especially when games like Spiritfarer and Chicory are added - games I bought in sales and haven't even got round to playing. Which kinda sucks all ways! Never again now though.