So it seems to be a tweet every day which would mean the 7th one would be the same day as Summer Game Fest. Maybe Geoff has the gameplay debut for FFVII Rebirth?
The timing of this in relation to how things were with MH World updates and Rise announcement gives me the impression Geoff or Microsoft may have the next mainline MH announcement.
@RBMango The only PC announcements in the showcase were of games that were also upcoming for PS5. They did a similar thing in the 2021 showcase (Uncharted was PS5/PC and the other PC announcements were announced elsewhere instead).
Though I am surprised this wasn't announced at Summer Game Fest, perhaps others are there instead like Demon's Souls and Ghost of Tsushima.
@somnambulance I only believe it regarding the money Sony earns from 3rd party microtransactions. If Sony gets huge 1st party live service hits, I sadly think most of the extra money will go towards more live service stuff because that's what investors would want.
@somnambulance Agreed about Switch having the strongest lineup though the situation seems more complicated for PS/Xbox to go that route nowadays. Seems very much that something caused Sony and Microsoft to be heavily reliant on 3rd party live service microtransactions in the PS4/XB1 era (Jim Ryan has already said it funds their single player epics).
The rest is what we see, Microsoft acquiring loads of publishers because they're allowed to do whatever they want and Sony heavily go down the live service route themselves to make up for the losses caused by Microsoft.
It makes me worry about what next gen Nintendo may look like, Nintendo very quickly accepting the 10 year CoD deal from Microsoft feels ominous.
@somnambulance @B_Lindz With everything going on, I get the feeling that more power is actually proving to be detrimental to gaming. I keep seeing lots of talk about "how is this even possible on such old hardware" regarding TotK. Nintendo had the right idea to exit the "most powerful console" battle after the Gamecube.
@Darylb88 I get the feeling the Xbox showcase will be worse received if Starfield doesn't have a 60fps mode at launch. I see a lot of discourse over whether 30fps is acceptable for PS5/Series X.
@gaston I think it's pretty much that people have settled down into their live service games of choice and so they're less likely to delve into a new live service game because there's not enough time to do both so they'd rather stick with what they've spent lots of time and money on for years.
Meanwhile you've also got a load of people who are fed up of the existence of live service because stuff like loot boxes, battle passes and microtransaction stores have ruined franchises they knew and loved in the past.
So the long running big live service games stay big (e.g. Fortnite, GTA Online, CoD, FFXIV) but outside that collection of games, the live service model collapses.
I feel Sony's best approach would be to give something like SOCOM, Resistance or Killzone the Splatoon treatment. Good single player campaign, multiplayer is supported for awhile with free content updates, single player gets a paid DLC story expansion but biggest of all is the game has absolutely no microtransactions (and hence isn't live service).
I definitely think it's a Summer Game Fest thing given the huge presence TLoU has had at past Geoff Keighley events like Summer Game Fest 2022 and Game Awards 2020. I'd guess it would be a case of debut trailer or gameplay perhaps followed by the announcement of a standalone TLoU event on June 14th (the 10th anniversary of the PS3 game).
@somnambulance While I do think there'll be a Nintendo Direct this summer given they're at Gamescom this time, in the outcome there isn't and the Xbox showcase ends up being a trainwreck it's entirely possible that Nintendo popularizes the approach of replacing summer showcases with just dripfeeding info on social media.
@Shepherd_Tallon The absence of Death Stranding 2 and Factions 2 gives the impression Sony split the reveals between the showcase and Summer Game Fest.
It was ok. Some good stuff there like the MGS stuff, FFXVI and Spider-Man 2 but the showcase furthered my concerns that Sony's literally going all in on live service and leaving traditional single player behind (all the PS Studios games here except Spider-Man 2 were live service).
I wonder what the PS4 game is for FY23, MLB The Show 24 ending up releasing in March 2024 comes to mind but maybe it's something like Factions 2 instead.
@djlard It's not 2 per genre each year, rather 2 each year total and they could be of any genre. For example 2023's 2 big PS5 PS Studios exclusives could be Spider-Man 2 and TLoU Factions 2, next year's could be Wolverine and the live service Horizon game, etc.
That's promising, gives the impression that the showcase will have a reasonable amount of PSVR2 presence rather than just something like a quick highlight reel at the start.
If such a game exists, I don't think it would be released until 2025/2026 which is way too far in the future to be in the showcase. If Sony's learned from others, this showcase should be all about 2023 with some 2024 reveals.
I still don't see it happening. Microsoft forcing parity between Series X and S for a Series X|S version to exist keeps being cited as the problem and mid gen revisions won't change that.
@MemSec Front Mission 3 remake was announced for Switch back in September so it's safe to assume it'll come to PS4 around 6 months after the Switch version (Front Mission 1st remake released in November so a PS4 release in May would mean 6 months timed exclusivity).
@Rob_230 Licensed music made me think Beat Saber PSVR2 release date. Its existence and the GT7 update were the big PSVR2 announcements from Sony's CES event.
@Shinnok789 Sony released a load of games on PC last year with most of them happening in August - November meanwhile this year so far only got 2 (Returnal, TLoU Part 1) so I feel there'll be a load announced for later in the year. My guess would be something like:
June - Factions 2
August - Ghost of Tsushima
September - GT7, HFW
October - Rift Apart
November - Demon's Souls
Then early 2024 having GoW Ragnarok and TLoU Part 2.
@NEStalgia Not quite, what I figure would happen is:
EU approves deal -> Sony does a huge showcase soon afterwards to try and convince people that PS5 is still worth owning, even with Microsoft owning CoD
EU blocks deal -> Sony decide they don't need a showcase and dripfeed info about PS5's future throughout the year instead (e.g. Geoff gets Spider-Man 2 and Factions 2 gameplay reveals, 3rd party State of Play like the one in June last year, FFVII Rebirth State of Play)
They definitely wouldn't announce a showcase before May 22nd. While CMA did end up ignoring Sony's concerns, the end result was still what Sony wanted. Hence Sony wouldn't want to give the EU any fuel to side with Microsoft.
@KaijuKaiser I think what would've benefited the 1st party lineup the most last year is if Horizon Forbidden West was delayed to June (NG+ update being on the disc). More consistent 1st party lineup but also the game wouldn't have suffered from being so close to Elden Ring.
At this point the mythical PS Showcase that keeps getting brought up feels about as likely as Mother 3 being localized outside Japan for Switch or Nintendo deciding to bring back F-Zero.
@NEStalgia It's very concerning just how much focus Sony is giving to live service even though there's a big live service graveyard forming from all the games shutdown recently. It almost feels like in around 10 years time there'll be a Push Square article with a headline like "Epic Games acquires Sony Interactive Entertainment to work on Fortnite" because Sony's live service push didn't work.
I'd honestly say recently NSO has become the best of the bunch though I would've much preferred for Nintendo to have gone the VC route like they did with Wii, 3DS and Wii U instead. GB/GBC/GBA being added back in February improved my opinion of the service though I wish the pace of games added was quicker.
@4kgk2 The European Commission response is the most important of the 3 (if they approve then the UK will likely cave) so I wouldn't exactly say the deal is dead yet, just less likely to happen than before as the EU is usually even more serious than the UK about this kind of stuff. I do agree with @thefourfoldroot1 that this is definitely a case of looking weak to try and convince the EC to approve.
If it's real and releasing in Q4 2024, Sony wouldn't announce it until Q3 2024. The PS4 Pro had 2 month gap between announcement and release.
But I don't think PS5 Pro is real, there's not the same situation that PS4 was in. There's no mainstream equivalent to the rise of 4KTVs and unlike PSVR1, Sony's treating PSVR2 like an afterthought that's going to be abandoned in around a year.
I think it all comes down to at what point (if at all) regulators stop Microsoft's neverending acquisition spree. If Activision is blocked and the same happens for other acquisitions Microsoft tries to make, I think the tried and true model of buying games will be the future. If however regulators let Microsoft do whatever then Microsoft will force Game Pass to be the future.
I do agree with the comments that this may be delayed to early 2024 though. Widening of release windows usually means a delay and the current fiscal year is a larger release window than Fall 2023. Most recent example that comes to mind is the upcoming Forza Motorsport, went from "Spring 2023" to "2023".
@Americansamurai1 I don't think we'll get a showcase in May, rather news spread out like what happened in October. Something like 3rd party State of Play in May, Geoff gets the debut for Factions 2 and Spider-Man 2 gameplay in June alongside some PC ports, FFVII Rebirth focused State of Play in August, etc.
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Re: The Next Capcom Showcase Airs Next Week
Capcom Showcases don't really reveal new stuff, rather update on already announced things. So I'd guess:
Re: UK Sales Charts: Street Fighter 6 Tackles the Top 10, But Can't KO Zelda
@eltomo I don't think so regarding Diablo 4 as Xbox players will most likely be waiting for it to come to Game Pass which'll decrease physical sales.
Re: Breaking: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Will Have a Story
Sure it's a rather low bar to beat but it feels like Summer Game Fest actually has a good chance of being better than the Playstation Showcase.
Re: Square Enix Allegedly 'Slightly Panicking' About Final Fantasy 16 PS5 Pre-Orders
@AdamNovice You've also got the situation that FFXVI is the first M/18+ rated FF game. That would probably decrease the potential audience somewhat.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth PS5 Dev Progressing Smoothly, Release Date Being Nailed Down
They did another tweet:
https://twitter.com/finalfantasyvii/status/1664980288781582336
So it seems to be a tweet every day which would mean the 7th one would be the same day as Summer Game Fest. Maybe Geoff has the gameplay debut for FFVII Rebirth?
Re: Final Monster Hunter Rise Event Will Stream on 7th June
The timing of this in relation to how things were with MH World updates and Rise announcement gives me the impression Geoff or Microsoft may have the next mainline MH announcement.
Re: PS5 Showpiece Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Jumps to the PC Dimension in July
@RBMango The only PC announcements in the showcase were of games that were also upcoming for PS5. They did a similar thing in the 2021 showcase (Uncharted was PS5/PC and the other PC announcements were announced elsewhere instead).
Though I am surprised this wasn't announced at Summer Game Fest, perhaps others are there instead like Demon's Souls and Ghost of Tsushima.
Re: Rumour: Tekken 8 Beta Could Be Incoming
Given Tekken 8 appeared at the Game Awards, probably a safe guess that it'll be at Summer Game Fest.
Re: Sony's Huge Days of Play Sale on PS Plus Subs, PS5 Games, Accessories, Begins This Week
I wonder when the June PS+ Essential games will be announced.
Re: Sony Will Have More PS5 Presentations This Year, Sources Say
Feels most likely to be a Spider-Man 2 State of Play, a general 3rd party State of Play and a FFVII Rebirth State of Play.
Definitely not a showcase, otherwise the name of the recent showcase wouldn't have been called "Playstation Showcase 2023".
Re: Rumour: Naughty Dog's Troubled The Last of Us Multiplayer PS5 Project Was Sniped by Bungie
@somnambulance I only believe it regarding the money Sony earns from 3rd party microtransactions. If Sony gets huge 1st party live service hits, I sadly think most of the extra money will go towards more live service stuff because that's what investors would want.
Re: Rumour: Naughty Dog's Troubled The Last of Us Multiplayer PS5 Project Was Sniped by Bungie
@somnambulance Agreed about Switch having the strongest lineup though the situation seems more complicated for PS/Xbox to go that route nowadays. Seems very much that something caused Sony and Microsoft to be heavily reliant on 3rd party live service microtransactions in the PS4/XB1 era (Jim Ryan has already said it funds their single player epics).
The rest is what we see, Microsoft acquiring loads of publishers because they're allowed to do whatever they want and Sony heavily go down the live service route themselves to make up for the losses caused by Microsoft.
It makes me worry about what next gen Nintendo may look like, Nintendo very quickly accepting the 10 year CoD deal from Microsoft feels ominous.
Re: Rumour: Naughty Dog's Troubled The Last of Us Multiplayer PS5 Project Was Sniped by Bungie
@somnambulance @B_Lindz With everything going on, I get the feeling that more power is actually proving to be detrimental to gaming. I keep seeing lots of talk about "how is this even possible on such old hardware" regarding TotK. Nintendo had the right idea to exit the "most powerful console" battle after the Gamecube.
Re: Speculation Claims Sony Opted Not to Include Some Major PS5 Games During PS Showcase
Naughty Dog just announced on twitter an update:
https://twitter.com/Naughty_Dog/status/1662166716892479488
Basically more time needed before reveal and they also have a brand new single player experience in development.
Re: Feature: The PlayStation Showcase Prediction Quiz Results Are In
Just answering "no" to everything would've given a very high score (26/30).
Re: PlayStation Showcase Completely Divided Fan Opinion
@Darylb88 I get the feeling the Xbox showcase will be worse received if Starfield doesn't have a 60fps mode at launch. I see a lot of discourse over whether 30fps is acceptable for PS5/Series X.
Re: PS5 Fans Were Hoping for an Update on Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth This Week
I'm not sure why people would've expected FFVII Rebirth and Wolverine to appear when the big focus is on FFXVI and Spider-Man 2 respectively.
Re: Reaction: Sony's PS5, PC Live Service Strategy Won't Work If It's All Samey Shooters
@gaston I think it's pretty much that people have settled down into their live service games of choice and so they're less likely to delve into a new live service game because there's not enough time to do both so they'd rather stick with what they've spent lots of time and money on for years.
Meanwhile you've also got a load of people who are fed up of the existence of live service because stuff like loot boxes, battle passes and microtransaction stores have ruined franchises they knew and loved in the past.
So the long running big live service games stay big (e.g. Fortnite, GTA Online, CoD, FFXIV) but outside that collection of games, the live service model collapses.
I feel Sony's best approach would be to give something like SOCOM, Resistance or Killzone the Splatoon treatment. Good single player campaign, multiplayer is supported for awhile with free content updates, single player gets a paid DLC story expansion but biggest of all is the game has absolutely no microtransactions (and hence isn't live service).
Re: What the Hell Is Going on with The Last of Us Factions, Naughty Dog's Standalone PS5 Multiplayer Game?
I definitely think it's a Summer Game Fest thing given the huge presence TLoU has had at past Geoff Keighley events like Summer Game Fest 2022 and Game Awards 2020. I'd guess it would be a case of debut trailer or gameplay perhaps followed by the announcement of a standalone TLoU event on June 14th (the 10th anniversary of the PS3 game).
Re: Poll: Was This Sony's Best PlayStation Showcase Yet?
@somnambulance While I do think there'll be a Nintendo Direct this summer given they're at Gamescom this time, in the outcome there isn't and the Xbox showcase ends up being a trainwreck it's entirely possible that Nintendo popularizes the approach of replacing summer showcases with just dripfeeding info on social media.
Re: Reaction: Sony Flubs First Proper PS5 Presentation in Over 18 Months
@Shepherd_Tallon The absence of Death Stranding 2 and Factions 2 gives the impression Sony split the reveals between the showcase and Summer Game Fest.
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced at the PlayStation Showcase?
@Intr1n5ic The PS Studios live service games shown were:
The only PS Studios game present that wasn't live service is Spider-Man 2.
Re: Poll: Was This Sony's Best PlayStation Showcase Yet?
It was ok. Some good stuff there like the MGS stuff, FFXVI and Spider-Man 2 but the showcase furthered my concerns that Sony's literally going all in on live service and leaving traditional single player behind (all the PS Studios games here except Spider-Man 2 were live service).
Re: Multiple PS Studios Working on Mobile, As Sony Targets Smartphone Boom
I wonder what the PS4 game is for FY23, MLB The Show 24 ending up releasing in March 2024 comes to mind but maybe it's something like Factions 2 instead.
Re: Sony Aiming for At Least Two Big PS5 Exclusives Each Year Across 'Every Major Genre'
@djlard It's not 2 per genre each year, rather 2 each year total and they could be of any genre. For example 2023's 2 big PS5 PS Studios exclusives could be Spider-Man 2 and TLoU Factions 2, next year's could be Wolverine and the live service Horizon game, etc.
Re: PSVR2 Sales at 600,000 Six Weeks After Launch, Sony Confirms
That's promising, gives the impression that the showcase will have a reasonable amount of PSVR2 presence rather than just something like a quick highlight reel at the start.
Re: Poll: How Hyped Are You for the PlayStation Showcase?
Extremely hyped but more so in the sense that showcases are really fun to watch, not about having extremely high expectations.
Re: PS5 Exclusivity Over Metal Gear Solid 3 Remake Appears Uncertain
Showcase happens and then it turns out the remake doesn't even exist. Instead you get a remake of Metal Gear Survive with pachinko mechanics.
Re: Feature: Our PlayStation Showcase Predictions
@Jireland92 At least people aren't expecting Silksong to appear at every Playstation event.
Re: Sony Says It's Too Early to Judge PSVR2's Popularity
If Jim Ryan really wanted PSVR2 to succeed, its proper launch (i.e. purchasable outside Playstation Direct) wouldn't have been the same day as TotK.
Re: Rumour: Ghost of Tsushima 2 Not at PlayStation Showcase
If such a game exists, I don't think it would be released until 2025/2026 which is way too far in the future to be in the showcase. If Sony's learned from others, this showcase should be all about 2023 with some 2024 reveals.
Re: GTA 6 Publisher Is Anticipating a PS5 Pro
I still don't see it happening. Microsoft forcing parity between Series X and S for a Series X|S version to exist keeps being cited as the problem and mid gen revisions won't change that.
Re: Tactical RPG Remake Front Mission 1st Shedding Switch Exclusivity for PS4
@MemSec Front Mission 3 remake was announced for Switch back in September so it's safe to assume it'll come to PS4 around 6 months after the Switch version (Front Mission 1st remake released in November so a PS4 release in May would mean 6 months timed exclusivity).
Re: Rumour: Persona 3 Remake Reveal May Be Coming Next Month
@UltimateOtaku91 Maybe the remake is closer to what Square has been doing with FFVII than a traditional remake?
Re: PlayStation Showcase Finally Announced for 24th May
@Rob_230 Licensed music made me think Beat Saber PSVR2 release date. Its existence and the GT7 update were the big PSVR2 announcements from Sony's CES event.
Re: PlayStation Showcase Finally Announced for 24th May
Nice that Sony is finally breaking the silence on the future of Playstation. Hopefully there's a lot of single player games present.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Patch Finally Allows Completionists to 100% the PS5 DLC
@Shinnok789 Sony released a load of games on PC last year with most of them happening in August - November meanwhile this year so far only got 2 (Returnal, TLoU Part 1) so I feel there'll be a load announced for later in the year. My guess would be something like:
Then early 2024 having GoW Ragnarok and TLoU Part 2.
Re: Next Week's PS Plus Extra Lineup Has Been Changed Again
@Kidfried It also happened with Game Pass like how Diofield Chronicle was announced to come in January and then disappeared.
Re: Rumour: Konami Expected to Feature in Huge PS Showcase in Coming Weeks
@NEStalgia Not quite, what I figure would happen is:
Re: Rumour: Konami Expected to Feature in Huge PS Showcase in Coming Weeks
They definitely wouldn't announce a showcase before May 22nd. While CMA did end up ignoring Sony's concerns, the end result was still what Sony wanted. Hence Sony wouldn't want to give the EU any fuel to side with Microsoft.
Re: Rumour: Konami Expected to Feature in Huge PS Showcase in Coming Weeks
@KaijuKaiser I think what would've benefited the 1st party lineup the most last year is if Horizon Forbidden West was delayed to June (NG+ update being on the disc). More consistent 1st party lineup but also the game wouldn't have suffered from being so close to Elden Ring.
Re: Rumours About PS5 Exclusive Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill, and Castlevania Send the Web Potty
At this point the mythical PS Showcase that keeps getting brought up feels about as likely as Mother 3 being localized outside Japan for Switch or Nintendo deciding to bring back F-Zero.
Re: Concrete Genie Developer PixelOpus Is Shutting Down
@NEStalgia It's very concerning just how much focus Sony is giving to live service even though there's a big live service graveyard forming from all the games shutdown recently. It almost feels like in around 10 years time there'll be a Push Square article with a headline like "Epic Games acquires Sony Interactive Entertainment to work on Fortnite" because Sony's live service push didn't work.
Re: Soapbox: PS Plus Might Be Gaming's Best Subscription Service Now
I'd honestly say recently NSO has become the best of the bunch though I would've much preferred for Nintendo to have gone the VC route like they did with Wii, 3DS and Wii U instead. GB/GBC/GBA being added back in February improved my opinion of the service though I wish the pace of games added was quicker.
Re: Xbox Boss Admits Microsoft Can't 'Outconsole' PS5
@4kgk2 The European Commission response is the most important of the 3 (if they approve then the UK will likely cave) so I wouldn't exactly say the deal is dead yet, just less likely to happen than before as the EU is usually even more serious than the UK about this kind of stuff. I do agree with @thefourfoldroot1 that this is definitely a case of looking weak to try and convince the EC to approve.
Re: PS5 Pro Is '100%' Happening, Says Reliable Report
If it's real and releasing in Q4 2024, Sony wouldn't announce it until Q3 2024. The PS4 Pro had 2 month gap between announcement and release.
But I don't think PS5 Pro is real, there's not the same situation that PS4 was in. There's no mainstream equivalent to the rise of 4KTVs and unlike PSVR1, Sony's treating PSVR2 like an afterthought that's going to be abandoned in around a year.
Re: Soapbox: I No Longer Think Subscriptions Like PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass Are the Future of Gaming
I think it all comes down to at what point (if at all) regulators stop Microsoft's neverending acquisition spree. If Activision is blocked and the same happens for other acquisitions Microsoft tries to make, I think the tried and true model of buying games will be the future. If however regulators let Microsoft do whatever then Microsoft will force Game Pass to be the future.
Re: Sony Reassures All That Marvel's Spider-Man 2's Release Date Is on Track for PS5
@get2sammyb In December, it was given a more precise "Fall 2023" release window.
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2022/12/marvels-spider-man-2-ps5-will-officially-release-fall-2023-sony-confirms
I do agree with the comments that this may be delayed to early 2024 though. Widening of release windows usually means a delay and the current fiscal year is a larger release window than Fall 2023. Most recent example that comes to mind is the upcoming Forza Motorsport, went from "Spring 2023" to "2023".
Re: Microsoft Goes Scorched Earth Over UK's Activision Buyout Block
Jim Ryan is bad but this is way more pathetic.
Re: Microsoft Dealt Major Blow as UK Blocks Activision Buyout
@Americansamurai1 I don't think we'll get a showcase in May, rather news spread out like what happened in October. Something like 3rd party State of Play in May, Geoff gets the debut for Factions 2 and Spider-Man 2 gameplay in June alongside some PC ports, FFVII Rebirth focused State of Play in August, etc.