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I think they'll use other platform holder events to announce legacy ports meanwhile their own events and Geoff's events to announce ports for upcoming releases. So like Starfield being announced at the PS5 Pro reveal (maybe due to the power of PS5 Pro the game can run at 4K 60fps), FH5 announced at the Switch 2 reveal, Avowed announced at the Game Awards (the game releases on Xbox in February), etc.

@NEStalgia XB1 had a Wii U situation in a different way, it took too long for the system sellers to arrive. For example with Wii U you had Skyward Sword release on Wii the year before meanwhile with XB1 you had Halo 4 release on 360 the year before which meant it took longer for the new systems to get entries.

Granted, Halo 4 being a XB1 launch title and Gears being a Fall/Holiday 2014 release wouldn't have helped much given how much damage Don Mattrick caused with the console reveal.

Wasn't there talk a few years ago that ditching last gen may result in current gen framerates returning to 30fps?

Dragon's Dogma 2 and MH Wilds are the first 2 RE Engine games to be skipping last gen.

The show was poor though there are some good things to come out of it like Indiana Jones PS5 release window, MH Wilds and Sony's complete absence increasing the chance of a Playstation Showcase happening.

Deciding to launch 2 days before the PC port of GoW Ragnarok sounds like a bad decision.

I hope this isn't a sign of Playstation Showcase being absent this year.

It would be neat if there's a Sonic X Shadow Generations trailer like there was at Summer Game Fest. Hopefully there's more 06 stages in the Shadow campaign, Kingdom Valley in June was a nice surprise.

The biggest thing that makes me question FH5 for PS5 happening at Gamescom is that it would overshadow the new Indiana Jones trailer already confirmed for Opening Night Live as Forza is one of the Xbox big 3 (Halo, Gears, Forza).

I think Indiana Jones and Starfield are most likely to be the PS5 port. Leaning towards Indiana Jones as it has the biggest chance to give the game more attention rather than just devolve into arguments over whether Xbox console is dead.

Could see any of Concord (reminder it exists), Astro Bot (final trailer kind of thing), Until Dawn remake (release date reveal) and Lego Horizon Adventures (release date reveal) appear from Sony but anything else I think they'd save for a September showcase.

Weird that Sony would be doing this. Are they perhaps creating a PC launcher that has crossbuy with purchases made on PS?

I think it's that PS5 never really had an equivalent to Holiday 2016 (161 weeks after PS4 released was December 30th 2016). Push Square reported on crazy sales during that time period and the stuff which happened back then was stuff like PS4 Pro, PSVR (both sold out fast during Holiday 2016), crazy discounts (e.g. PS4 + Uncharted 4 + FIFA 17 for £200), big multiplatform games ditching last gen (e.g. Infinite Warfare was the first CoD not to release on PS3/360 which released on PS4/XB1), etc.

@sanderson72 At this point in PS4's lifespan (November 2013 - June 2017), PS4 was at 63.3 million so the difference is 1.6 million.

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2017/08/ps4_shipments_pass_63_3_million_as_sony_finds_itself_in_good_health

@NEStalgia I think Switch 2 could be a factor. With Switch 1 being a gigantic success, 3rd parties are probably wanting to support Switch 2 early on. As a result of optimizing for that system, they may come to the conclusion that it's still worthwhile trying to port to PS4.

@Americansamurai1 I think they'll treat the PS5 Pro reveal similarly to the PS5 Future of Gaming showcase in terms of software. Reveal the console, have a bunch of 3rd party games and most (if not all) of the 2025/2026 1st party lineup present.

After the events of February, this continuing to happen isn't surprising in the slightest.

This article did make me wonder whether PS5 Pro will require a new adapter for PSVR2 to function (like the one used for PC). For context, I'm reminded back to 2016/2017 when Microsoft released XB1 revisions (XB1S and XB1X) and you needed a special Kinect adapter to be able to use the device with those consoles.

By the way PS Direct says the PSVR2 sale ends on August 5th.

@breakneck @PuppetMaster Astro Bot being a success may be able to convince Sony that chasing live service is a bad idea and that taking a Nintendo-like path instead is much better.

@NEStalgia I think it's more about live service than anything else. For example because of GTA Online's gigantic success, Rockstar made it that a new GTA game is now a "once in a lifetime" event. Naturally Sony's going to release new hardware nearby.

I think it will still launch this year. Announce a week or 2 after Astro Bot launches (allowing Astro Bot to get some time in the spotlight) and then release alongside Lego Horizon Adventures.

I wonder if Sony will start doing big PS5 hardware discounts from late July again like they did last year.

I'm going to guess XCOM, the last thing that happened with the franchise was the Switch port in 2020 and the other big 2K IP that got Switch ports had something happen since then. Like we know there's an upcoming Bioshock game and Civilization VII releases next year.

So the PS4 Pro setup was:

• Codename announcement in June
• Reveal at Playstation Meeting in September (the event was announced a month in advance)
• Released in November

Considering nowadays E3 is dead and it's perfectly normal for Sony to remain on the quieter side, it does feel realistic that even though there was no codename announcement there ends up being a Playstation Showcase in September to reveal the PS5 Pro with TGS being the first place where the public can try it out for themselves.

@Americansamurai1 I think they're saving it for 2025. 2023 was a rather quiet year for PS Studios so by the approximate 2+ year rule (Ragnarok was a bit under 2 years), 2025 would be a quiet year for newly eligible PC releases. Hence they'd fill in the gaps with older stuff, I think 2025 for PC would look like:

• TLoU 2
• Demon's Souls
• GT7
• Spider-Man 2
• 2 live service games that release on PS5 in 2025

If Sony were to go all digital, they'd probably need to add other stores on their systems due to EU regulations which would mean the Microsoft Store (with Game Pass included) is forced on there much like how Epic Games Store (and soon Microsoft Store) was forced onto iOS devices despite Apple not wanting it. That is a very strong reason for Sony to want to still support physical media as a result.

I think the fate of physical for Sony/Nintendo very much lies in the hands of retailers at this point. If retailers are willing to sell physical games then Sony/Nintendo will continue to make physical games. Can't say I'm optimistic considering how quickly retailers have been wanting to kill off DVD/Blu-ray recently though.

They'll likely do their usual annual State of Play/Showcase in September.

It was ok but the best part of event season hasn't happened yet. I have no doubts that the Nintendo Direct will be the best showcase of the bunch.

@get2sammyb I think it's all about timing. The 2 year gap between PS and PC release for new PS Studios single player games would mean that 2025/2026 is quieter on that front for PC so to fill in the lineup there's older stuff mixed in. So perhaps Bloodborne remake is a PS5 Pro launch title and then comes to PC in 2025.

Given Sony's big push for Horizon, I could see the Switch version of this be Aloy's gateway into the next Smash game.

@Sleepwalking I think the title should've been something like "Rumour: Playstation Studios PS5 game revealed at Summer Game Fest tomorrow" with the image being the Playstation Studios logo.

Sony already said no new major IP releases for April 2024 - March 2025. Horizon is a major IP so wouldn't that mean the earliest it can arrive is April 2025?

@HonestHick A year seems optimistic considering the RDR1 situation. I could honestly see Rockstar release a Switch 2 port of GTA6 before PC.

@NEStalgia @HonestHick I think Sony's current PC strategy is centralized around GTA6. Rockstar are infamous for treating PC as an afterthought so Sony's logic is probably that PC players will buy PS5 for GTA6 and then as they have the system anyway, they may as well play PS Studios games on PS5 instead of waiting.

Not sure it'll play out like that though, could end up being that PC players buy PS5 for GTA6 and then use it just as a GTA6 machine with PS Studios games still bought on PC.

Hermen Hulst said their single player PC strategy is to convince people to buy sequels on PS. So if they timed the PC release of TLoU 2 with season 2 of the TV show, that would suggest TLoU 3 is the next Naughty Dog game for PS5.

Not hyped, I figure it'll be like the recent State of Play but if Astro Bot was replaced with Fairgame$.

@Americansamurai1 I think Until Dawn will get a release date, that's what happened last year (Spider-Man 2 had a Fall 2023 release window and then got an October 20th release date at Summer Game Fest).

Square Enix wasn't on the partner list for Summer Game Fest so this isn't a surprise. Which leaves the Xbox showcase out of the current event season as the remaining possibility if any (won't be at the Nintendo Direct because the rest of the franchise is cloud versions for the current Switch and there's no news on the successor).

The State of Play was ok, had some absolutely fantastic reveals like Astro Bot and more MH Wilds news meanwhile also had rough parts like the decision to spend a third of the show on Concord.

Playstation is a partner for Summer Game Fest so we know that there's more announcements to come. Regarding the big PS Studios heavy showcase people are hoping for, I feel that will happen whenever Sony chooses to reveal the PS5 Pro.

Also, considering the big Xbox multiplatform strategy I think Sony knows what's being announced at the Xbox showcase. If stuff like Gears 6 are coming to PS5 day 1, that will create more big buzz about PS5.

@AverageGamer Sony's PC announcements in State of Play and PS Showcase are PS5/PC announcements the vast majority of the time. Those events having PC announcements of games that already have a PS5 version only happened twice:

• June 2022 - Spider-Man PC
• May 2024 - GoW Ragnarok PC

An ok State of Play. Astro Bot was a fantastic announcement and it was really cool seeing more MH Wilds (I honestly thought that would've been Summer Game Fest instead). Definitely the 2 highlights of the show.

Biggest negative was that 10 minutes on Concord disrupted pacing a lot.

@GamingFan4Lyf I think it's because of Halo Infinite. They did a gigantic marketing push including lots of physical marketing for that game and it backfired massively so they considered big marketing pushes a waste of money. A "If Halo can't do it, nothing Xbox can" kind of thing.

So theoretically we could use the PC port choices Sony make to get an idea for what's coming in the future on PS5.

@UltimateOtaku91 Agreed about Silent Hill 2, the State of Play is later in the day than usual such that it looks intentionally lined up to be very close to the Silent Hill Transmission event.

@Dragoon1994 I think SEGA's big push at Summer Game Fest will be Metaphor.

@Americansamurai1 I think Ghost 2 clashes with Assassin's Creed Shadows, considering Sony had the marketing for Assassin's Creed and Avatar last year it feels like Shadows is more likely to appear.

My predictions for the 14 games are:

• Astro Bot
• Concord
• Until Dawn remake
• GoW Ragnarok PC
• Assassin's Creed Shadows
• Resident Evil 9 (begins the SoP)
• Kingdom Hearts 4 (ends the SoP)
• Sonic X Shadow Generations
• Silent Hill 2 Remake (then reappears for a more in depth look at the Silent Hill Transmission event which starts around 30 minutes after SoP ends)
• MGS Delta
• Metro Awakening (PSVR2)
• 3 indie games (at least 1 of which is a PS+ Extra/Premium game)

Then Sony's presence at Summer Game Fest being all about Horizon.

Nice to see that a PS event is happening after all. Also this doesn't have the Summer Game Fest branding which means there'll be more announcements at Summer Game Fest considering Playstation is a partner.

@jFug That happened back with the first Silent Hill event. There was lots of rumours about an October 2022 Playstation Showcase but in the end we saw lots of standalone PS related announcements instead. Silent Hill got its own event with SH2 remake being PS exclusive, Resident Evil got its own event with State of Play branding, FFXVI got a big standalone trailer, etc.

@Haruki_NLI Maybe it was planned to be Switch successor instead of the current Switch but then the successor got delayed far enough into the future that they ported it to the current Switch instead?

Good to see that it's seemingly no longer Xbox exclusive.

@Enriesto Fridays tend to get saved for bad news though. I do think it's very bizarre that Geoff chose to have Summer Game Fest on a Friday when all the previous times were Thursdays.