@Toot1st not quite the same, the games that were the reason to buy studios like Returnal for Housemarque, Spiderman for Insomniac and the remakes for Blue Point were games Sony paid for and in the case of the remakes and Spiderman games that wouldn't exist without sony. There is a big difference between that and buying Bethesda because they have the most famous western rpg or Activision for Call of Duty.
Bungie is the only company they have bought that already got important ips before the acquisition and if Destiny 2 final dlc results to be a big hit NO ONE is going to credit Sony for that lol.
Sucks when devs have to explain the ideology behind game design (and change it) because people want everything to be the same when game design also helps to tell the story of that specific world you are playing. Most garbage from the Helldivers subreddit come from that thought process.
@OldGamer999 Mario Odyssey is fun but it was and still is one of the most mid 3d Mario games out there. And the fact that Nintendo took Mario with sombrero out of the cover because of offended white people when no one in Mexico was offended by it and actually most fans liked the idea made it even worst LOL.
I don't get why you guys didn't just put their tweet lol.
In the tweet they say there will be news in the next couple months, what other thing will happen in the next couple months? Oh yeah PlayStation SoP/Showcase, so this game could actually survived development hell + generational transition + covid and have something significant to show.
Saw the japanese video just to check the physical and collectors editions announcement. SEGA really made the announcements with box renders without the PS layout even when it says that those editions will only release for PS in Japan LOL.
That weird *ss deal with xbox-chan (because xbox is otaku like the cool kids) never fails to amuse.
Boring game but it was necessary for Sony to start backing more and more indies. Sea of Stars, Dave the diver and V rising are now the product of that journey.
The animes they have paid for have been great and the animation super clean but I don't think Comedy Central wants an anime of this (or maybe they do with how popular anime is these days who knows lol)
Obsidian is a great dev and this is the only game I'm interested in from the first wave but I was watching the trophies and the main tile is messed up, they just copied the PS4 rectangular one and pasted it in the square of the PS5 one. Those details man ... come on MS.
@Nepp67 they care, for many of them and that of course includes de CEO this is the work of their lives, it isn't just another product for mass consumption. Btw being a goofball is actually part of the Helldivers concept lol.
They had a vision and they are going to defend and follow that vision. They aren't going to give in just because some people want what they got in other games (people who btw also think being toxic against the devs is ok because they were always toxic in their previous communities. Something you didn't see in the Helldivers 1 small community).
The funniest part about the weird analogy is that it's actually quite good if you see it from another angle. Just think about all the vegan recipes that try to make food look and taste like meat. If you are vegan there shouldn't be any purpose for that.
I didn't know Helldivers 2 was going to be the success it is today but I knew it was going to be as fun as it is. All my trust was with ArrowHead and they delivered big time.
Cool for number 1. If I could change anything I would put Unicorn Overlord on 3rd and send Persona 3 home. I'm sure SEGA deal to treat every Atlus game as an xbox exclusive is so good they are asking you $100 to get the full experience lol.
@nomither6 and thanks to Bungie and Destiny 2 they also have experience with services full of terrible decisions, people seem exited about the last major DLC but who knows how well it'll do, they already lost a lot of money. As a result they freed ND, Insomniac and others cancelling half the planned services and half of the survivor were delayed. So one could say there is balance now lol.
Helldivers 2 has also been top 3 most sold games on Steam for two months now.
If it wasn't that all the industry knows Helldivers is a PlayStation IP (everyone but some pc players lol, they just aren't used to how good PS games are) Tencent would have bought ArrowHead two months ago.
@breakneck yup, for the community who are very into trophies platinums are important. Videogames are entertainment and for many trophies are also entertainment, if you have limited time to play vg you better go with the whole package.
The tittle may suggest different but this game had a gameplay demo in a chinese expo like months ago, if anything it went from "is this real?" to "this exists" and that for chinese and korean projects is A LOT lol.
Is this game THAT good? I don't know maybe is because the only pirates I care about are space pirates but this game looks more like a streamer game than something that I could be crazy about. I know the pre orders were high and hopefully people enjoy what they are paying for (paying for your games is what cool kids do lol) but if I were MS I wouldn't decide if my games can sell on PS with something so niche.
I had a déjà vu or these news were already out a couple days after saying there were no big games until march of the next year? Maybe the guy said it back then and now said it again in a different podcast.
I mean if they were to the extent of saying "No MAJOR tittles" one could think that they have something small in hands for this year. Even Concord is still in plans for this year, they just didn't count it as major (actually the right decision, we don't want another days gone situation, not everything is gold lol).
@slayernz I don't know what you guys are talking about or if you are being sarcastic lol but WORD. Platinums feel way better than just getting all the achievements of a game. That's why a rumor said Xbox was thinking about their incorporation.
@billyboyblue666 he started talking about his new game in late 2019, just before the Mandalorian season 1. He made a tweet about GOW new director and how he trusted in him, changed his twitter header to an image with stars and when Mandalorian was in transmission he started talking about games in space, that's why the stronger rumors to this day are still about a new space game. Then covid happened and like all the other games it sure has a delay for the lockdown.
@NEStalgia
"Are we still wondering why western devs are downsizing and closing at record pace?"
No.
The west is using too much money on games and they aren't selling enough to keep the phase. The chinese games you talk about cost peanuts (in comparison). The topic of the games has nothing to do with the current situation of the industry. People love to use Elden Ring as an example of the best to make less a lot of games so using Fromsoftware as an example by your logic they shouldn't exist anymore but they do because they don't waste millions in graphics, they do just enough. Smaller japanese studios have said it before, the industry (the consumers) are expecting games that are just too expensive to make. The funny thing is that a lot of people who talk about the industry and what is bad with it will see Ronin in a couple of days and one of the main things they will criticize is how the game looks "dated" LOL. They want a better industry but also want small studios to use all the money possible so the game looks "great" even when that move can kill the studio.
Current Bungie doesn't have salvation at this point. The people in charge need to go. This "fear" and "stress" at the Bungie workplace that so many reports have talked about since last year is completely their fault.
"Sony wasted money buying Bungie" yeah that happened two years ago so it's old news, now it's time for solutions. What Sony should do is:
1.- Take complete control over Bungie. Sounds like Destiny 2 last dlc has to be a huge hit to save the current Bungie independence so there is a big chance it won't happen. PS is a lot of things but they still make pretty good games and Bungie needs that, direction.
2.- Kick the CEO and other administrative high ranks. I know internet is very sensitive to the concept of firing people but we are talking about the people who made a mess of Destiny 2, the people who decided to fire their own devs in 2023 (probably to get back their % of Bungie shares assigned by the Sony acquisition)and the people who played martyr so the community would blame Sony even when they didn't make the decision.
3.- Retain all the devs you can. Will be difficult because a lot of devs may not want to know anything about Bungie anymore once the current regime is over but Bungie isn't London Studios, you can't just close it.
Personally I don't think Bungie was that much of a waste. The only way Sony was going to stop the service dream was with a failure of their own. When you are minority owner of the biggest service in existence (Fortnite) and your biggest chinese partner makes service hit over service hit (Hoyo) the failures of SEGA, Warner, etc means nothing, you need to shoot your shot BUT when your own failure makes you lose money that's when perspectives change. Knowing how much money Sony is putting in games and how they canceled at least 6 services + the costs post release like future content, servers, etc and the possibility of a second wave of services already in development by that point the Bungie implosion probably saved Sony just in time.
Now about Marathon shifting to hero stuff is a big downgrade for me so I'm pretty much out unless it shows that can be special, maybe the ex Valorant dev can do it, I hope so.
@zhoont Too soon to think about their next game. HD 1 was very small and got 4 years of content. HD 2 took 8 years of development and it is the CEO's dreams game so one would think ArrowHead will put all their focus on this game for the next half a decade. They are already recruiting devs with real life guns experience to make new weapons for HD.
I was very excited about Blood Bowl 3 but the release conditions weren't the best so I didn't buy it and this is a good chance to actually play it, also a good chance to see what is Ace Attorney all about. Good month.
This is one I'm glad is cancelled. It's a live service so the chances of Gwen or Miguen having actual personalities was very low. Also as much as I love Insomniac Spiderman and even knowing I play the game once a year (this year including Spiderman 2) I don't see how this would be profitable, how people would play this game for more than 3 months, would be just a waste of talent.
If Gwen, Miguel or other Spiders make their debut in Insomniac games I want it to be as big as possible.
@nessisonett correction this is a studio which has shut down because they lost a key member just within months after signing a big partnership* or you didn't know in the game industry the devs are part of contracts and losing those devs are the equivalent of a contract breach? They lost funding and didn't find a new partnership, that's how business works.
1 + pink = Christopher Nolan LOL
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Re: Microsoft 'Meeting Players Where They Are' as Xbox Games Among PS Store's Bestsellers
@Toot1st not quite the same, the games that were the reason to buy studios like Returnal for Housemarque, Spiderman for Insomniac and the remakes for Blue Point were games Sony paid for and in the case of the remakes and Spiderman games that wouldn't exist without sony. There is a big difference between that and buying Bethesda because they have the most famous western rpg or Activision for Call of Duty.
Bungie is the only company they have bought that already got important ips before the acquisition and if Destiny 2 final dlc results to be a big hit NO ONE is going to credit Sony for that lol.
Re: Stellar Blade Half-Second Input Delay Due to 'Game's Style of Animation', Says Director
Sucks when devs have to explain the ideology behind game design (and change it) because people want everything to be the same when game design also helps to tell the story of that specific world you are playing. Most garbage from the Helldivers subreddit come from that thought process.
Re: Video: Does Fallout 4 Look Better on PS5?
@OldGamer999 Mario Odyssey is fun but it was and still is one of the most mid 3d Mario games out there. And the fact that Nintendo took Mario with sombrero out of the cover because of offended white people when no one in Mexico was offended by it and actually most fans liked the idea made it even worst LOL.
Re: Project Awakening Still Exists, Six Years After Its Stunning PS4 Reveal
@ShogunRok welp I see, my bad lol
Re: Project Awakening Still Exists, Six Years After Its Stunning PS4 Reveal
I don't get why you guys didn't just put their tweet lol.
In the tweet they say there will be news in the next couple months, what other thing will happen in the next couple months? Oh yeah PlayStation SoP/Showcase, so this game could actually survived development hell + generational transition + covid and have something significant to show.
Re: EA Japan Exec Criticises Rating Board for Apparrent Stellar Blade Special Treatment
What is this? A censorship controversy where Sony didn't f*ck things up? We so back boys lol.
Re: Persona Dev's Metaphor: ReFantazio Releases For PS5, PS4 in October, New Gameplay Is Glorious
Saw the japanese video just to check the physical and collectors editions announcement. SEGA really made the announcements with box renders without the PS layout even when it says that those editions will only release for PS in Japan LOL.
That weird *ss deal with xbox-chan (because xbox is otaku like the cool kids) never fails to amuse.
Re: It Looks Like Kena: Bridge of Spirits Is Heading to New Platforms
Boring game but it was necessary for Sony to start backing more and more indies. Sea of Stars, Dave the diver and V rising are now the product of that journey.
Re: Sony Collaborating on SEGA's Golden Axe Animated Series
The animes they have paid for have been great and the animation super clean but I don't think Comedy Central wants an anime of this (or maybe they do with how popular anime is these days who knows lol)
Re: PS5, PS4 Ports of Xbox Survival Game Grounded Out Now
Obsidian is a great dev and this is the only game I'm interested in from the first wave but I was watching the trophies and the main tile is messed up, they just copied the PS4 rectangular one and pasted it in the square of the PS5 one. Those details man ... come on MS.
Re: Stellar Blade Is a Better Game Than NieR: Automata, Yoko Taro Reckons
Look at these gentlemen throwing flowers at each other.
Re: Transmog System 'Doesn't Make Sense' in Helldivers 2, Says CEO
@Nepp67 they care, for many of them and that of course includes de CEO this is the work of their lives, it isn't just another product for mass consumption. Btw being a goofball is actually part of the Helldivers concept lol.
Re: Transmog System 'Doesn't Make Sense' in Helldivers 2, Says CEO
A game for everyone is a game for no one, right?
They had a vision and they are going to defend and follow that vision. They aren't going to give in just because some people want what they got in other games (people who btw also think being toxic against the devs is ok because they were always toxic in their previous communities. Something you didn't see in the Helldivers 1 small community).
The funniest part about the weird analogy is that it's actually quite good if you see it from another angle. Just think about all the vegan recipes that try to make food look and taste like meat. If you are vegan there shouldn't be any purpose for that.
Re: Whoa! Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time Has Sold More Than 5 Million Copies
For a game on Switch (and all other systems) looks like a low number.
Re: Feature: Push Square Readers' Top 10 PS5 Games of 2024 So Far
I didn't know Helldivers 2 was going to be the success it is today but I knew it was going to be as fun as it is. All my trust was with ArrowHead and they delivered big time.
Cool for number 1. If I could change anything I would put Unicorn Overlord on 3rd and send Persona 3 home. I'm sure SEGA deal to treat every Atlus game as an xbox exclusive is so good they are asking you $100 to get the full experience lol.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Helldivers 2 Dominates Once Again, Dragon's Dogma 2 in Third
@jedinite nope.
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
"©2024 Sony Interactive Entertainment LLC. Developed by Arrowhead Game Studios AB. Helldivers is a registered trademark of Sony Interactive Entertainment LLC and related companies in the U.S. and other countries."
Helldivers has been a Sony ip since before 2015. That's why ArrowHead CEO dream is for Helldivers to be part of PlayStation all time franchises.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Helldivers 2 Dominates Once Again, Dragon's Dogma 2 in Third
@nomither6 and thanks to Bungie and Destiny 2 they also have experience with services full of terrible decisions, people seem exited about the last major DLC but who knows how well it'll do, they already lost a lot of money. As a result they freed ND, Insomniac and others cancelling half the planned services and half of the survivor were delayed. So one could say there is balance now lol.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Helldivers 2 Dominates Once Again, Dragon's Dogma 2 in Third
Helldivers 2 has also been top 3 most sold games on Steam for two months now.
If it wasn't that all the industry knows Helldivers is a PlayStation IP (everyone but some pc players lol, they just aren't used to how good PS games are) Tencent would have bought ArrowHead two months ago.
Re: Top-Down Phenomena Vampire Survivors Confirms Platinum Trophy on PS5, PS4
Platinums are cool. Many of us think so, devs know it, xbox also knows it lol.
Re: Top-Down Phenomena Vampire Survivors Confirms Platinum Trophy on PS5, PS4
@breakneck yup, for the community who are very into trophies platinums are important. Videogames are entertainment and for many trophies are also entertainment, if you have limited time to play vg you better go with the whole package.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Has Sold Around 2 Million Copies, PS5 Player Data Suggests
What a waste of money for Sony, SE isn't worth it.
Re: PSN Data Says Foamstars' Future Is Bleak, Just Two Months After Release
It doesn't have a platinum, that says enough about of how much work was in this game and how PlayStation sees this game.
Re: Indie Smash Hit Vampire Survivors Is Finally Coming to PS5, PS4 This Summer
Waiting line for Halls of Torment, do it Sony just like with V Rising.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Favourite PS5 Game of 2024 So Far?
Only the biggest game of the year (early access don't count lol) Helldivers 2.
Re: Long Awaited PS5 Action Game Lost Soul Aside Is Still Alive, But Early 2024 Window Is Long Gone
The tittle may suggest different but this game had a gameplay demo in a chinese expo like months ago, if anything it went from "is this real?" to "this exists" and that for chinese and korean projects is A LOT lol.
Re: Sea of Thieves Reportedly a 'Key Test' for More Xbox Games on PS5
Is this game THAT good? I don't know maybe is because the only pirates I care about are space pirates but this game looks more like a streamer game than something that I could be crazy about. I know the pre orders were high and hopefully people enjoy what they are paying for (paying for your games is what cool kids do lol) but if I were MS I wouldn't decide if my games can sell on PS with something so niche.
Re: 'Smaller' PS5 Exclusives Still Reportedly Coming Later This Year
I had a déjà vu or these news were already out a couple days after saying there were no big games until march of the next year? Maybe the guy said it back then and now said it again in a different podcast.
I mean if they were to the extent of saying "No MAJOR tittles" one could think that they have something small in hands for this year. Even Concord is still in plans for this year, they just didn't count it as major (actually the right decision, we don't want another days gone situation, not everything is gold lol).
Re: Helldivers 2 Democratic Detonation Warbond Offers New, Explosive Peacekeeping Options
Many people may not like the concept the internet has about services but I absolutely love to see this site with Helldivers news almost every day.
Like AH said before, games need to win the right for microtransactions and Helldivers already won that right so of course I will buy stuff when I can.
Re: New Hollow Knight: Silksong Age Rating Fuels More Speculation
@Ralizah they were in the Direct for love, MS only bought their time lol
Re: Big Helldivers 2 PS5, PC Update Adds New Weather Hazards, Increases the Level Cap
Now I have to see hundreds of bitch posting on reddit about why this update sucks. PC players are the best .... yay.
Re: Random: Vladimir Putin Considers Creation of Russian Gaming Console
They already have one, it's called pc. Valve never left Russia even when you can't put money on your account directly there are easy ways to do it.
Now for less serious topics I'm from Mexico so we won't get their nukes but we could get their console lol.
Re: UK Sales Charts: South Park: Snow Day Chills with the Bestsellers, Rise of the Ronin Falls
Helldivers 2 all day baby!
Re: PS5's Stellar Blade Isn't Out Yet, But There's Already Talk of a Sequel
No photo mode? They really are going to make the hornies to ask and wait. Respect.
Re: PlayStation Fans Torn on Prospect of PS5 Pro
The tittle implies most people who visit this site and comment are ps fans and oh boy that's far from the truth lol
Re: 6v6 Hero Shooter Marvel Rivals Officially Announced, But There's No Mention of PS5
It looks like an Overwatch mod and that isn't a compliment lol.
"There's No Mention of PS5" Yeah they can keep this one.
Re: Devs Allegedly Pondering the Point of Sony's PS5 Pro Upgrade
What is funny is the implication of asking for a ps6 instead when they already said they haven't done the best they can with the ps5 lol.
Pro will be there to sell hardware to people who may want to buy it, just like the portal. Nothing more, nothing less.
Re: Xbox Planning to Release the 'Majority' of Its Exclusives on PS5
@Beetlebum91 "nothing beats a shiny platinum unlocking when you get all the trophies!"
Re: Xbox Planning to Release the 'Majority' of Its Exclusives on PS5
@slayernz I don't know what you guys are talking about or if you are being sarcastic lol but WORD. Platinums feel way better than just getting all the achievements of a game. That's why a rumor said Xbox was thinking about their incorporation.
Re: Development of Santa Monica Studios' Next PS5 Game Appears to Be Going Swimmingly
It's coming guys and the doomers aren't ready.
Re: Development of Santa Monica Studios' Next PS5 Game Appears to Be Going Swimmingly
@billyboyblue666 he started talking about his new game in late 2019, just before the Mandalorian season 1. He made a tweet about GOW new director and how he trusted in him, changed his twitter header to an image with stars and when Mandalorian was in transmission he started talking about games in space, that's why the stronger rumors to this day are still about a new space game. Then covid happened and like all the other games it sure has a delay for the lockdown.
Re: Pokémon Meets Waifus! Azur Promilia Will Be a Big Deal on PS5
@NEStalgia
"Are we still wondering why western devs are downsizing and closing at record pace?"
No.
The west is using too much money on games and they aren't selling enough to keep the phase. The chinese games you talk about cost peanuts (in comparison). The topic of the games has nothing to do with the current situation of the industry. People love to use Elden Ring as an example of the best to make less a lot of games so using Fromsoftware as an example by your logic they shouldn't exist anymore but they do because they don't waste millions in graphics, they do just enough. Smaller japanese studios have said it before, the industry (the consumers) are expecting games that are just too expensive to make. The funny thing is that a lot of people who talk about the industry and what is bad with it will see Ronin in a couple of days and one of the main things they will criticize is how the game looks "dated" LOL. They want a better industry but also want small studios to use all the money possible so the game looks "great" even when that move can kill the studio.
Re: Bungie Shuffles Marathon Leadership as Fears of Further Layoffs Loom
Current Bungie doesn't have salvation at this point. The people in charge need to go. This "fear" and "stress" at the Bungie workplace that so many reports have talked about since last year is completely their fault.
"Sony wasted money buying Bungie" yeah that happened two years ago so it's old news, now it's time for solutions. What Sony should do is:
1.- Take complete control over Bungie. Sounds like Destiny 2 last dlc has to be a huge hit to save the current Bungie independence so there is a big chance it won't happen. PS is a lot of things but they still make pretty good games and Bungie needs that, direction.
2.- Kick the CEO and other administrative high ranks. I know internet is very sensitive to the concept of firing people but we are talking about the people who made a mess of Destiny 2, the people who decided to fire their own devs in 2023 (probably to get back their % of Bungie shares assigned by the Sony acquisition)and the people who played martyr so the community would blame Sony even when they didn't make the decision.
3.- Retain all the devs you can. Will be difficult because a lot of devs may not want to know anything about Bungie anymore once the current regime is over but Bungie isn't London Studios, you can't just close it.
Personally I don't think Bungie was that much of a waste. The only way Sony was going to stop the service dream was with a failure of their own. When you are minority owner of the biggest service in existence (Fortnite) and your biggest chinese partner makes service hit over service hit (Hoyo) the failures of SEGA, Warner, etc means nothing, you need to shoot your shot BUT when your own failure makes you lose money that's when perspectives change. Knowing how much money Sony is putting in games and how they canceled at least 6 services + the costs post release like future content, servers, etc and the possibility of a second wave of services already in development by that point the Bungie implosion probably saved Sony just in time.
Now about Marathon shifting to hero stuff is a big downgrade for me so I'm pretty much out unless it shows that can be special, maybe the ex Valorant dev can do it, I hope so.
Re: Legendary PlayStation First-Party Architect Connie Booth Joins EA
So legendary most people didn't know about her until David Jaffe and his need for attention hit social media lol.
The best of luck in her new job.
Re: Over Eight Million Helldivers 2 Players Recruited Since Last Month
@zhoont Too soon to think about their next game. HD 1 was very small and got 4 years of content. HD 2 took 8 years of development and it is the CEO's dreams game so one would think ArrowHead will put all their focus on this game for the next half a decade. They are already recruiting devs with real life guns experience to make new weapons for HD.
Re: 13 New Games Land on PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
I was very excited about Blood Bowl 3 but the release conditions weren't the best so I didn't buy it and this is a good chance to actually play it, also a good chance to see what is Ace Attorney all about. Good month.
Re: Cancelled Live Service Spider-Man PS5 Game Allegedly Surfaces
This is one I'm glad is cancelled. It's a live service so the chances of Gwen or Miguen having actual personalities was very low. Also as much as I love Insomniac Spiderman and even knowing I play the game once a year (this year including Spiderman 2) I don't see how this would be profitable, how people would play this game for more than 3 months, would be just a waste of talent.
If Gwen, Miguel or other Spiders make their debut in Insomniac games I want it to be as big as possible.
Re: Stellar Blade Dev Shift Up to Secure the Bag As It Plots Public Shares
Only 30% will be public and most likely some Saudi prince will buy it so everything is ok.
As a comment said above Sony priority should be Arrowhead not a little piece of Shift up.
Re: Stellar Blade Dev Shift Up to Secure the Bag As It Plots Public Shares
@LowDefAl we are talking about sony brother, I love them but if there is a thing they DON'T know how to do is good pr so it could happen.
Re: Fancy Ghostbusters Items Up Next in Destiny 2
@BeerIsAwesome yeah Bungie has WAY WAY bigger problems (built before the acquisition) than having Sony marketing in game lol
Re: Sony Partner Deviation Games Shuttered Before Shipping Its First PS5 Project
@nessisonett correction this is a studio which has shut down because they lost a key member just within months after signing a big partnership* or you didn't know in the game industry the devs are part of contracts and losing those devs are the equivalent of a contract breach? They lost funding and didn't find a new partnership, that's how business works.
1 + pink = Christopher Nolan LOL