The only reason why I would like to see numbers is because I like numbers lol I don't really care who is playing what, I would never play something just because a lot of people are.
Helldivers is the perfect example. I was ready to play before the game was out, I'm glad Arrowhead is getting the recognition they deserve but now that A LOT of people are only buying the game to make bait on youtube and tiktok about the problems the game has I can't wait for the numbers to go down because I know I'm going to keep playing the game for the years to come just like the first one, 500k players per day or not.
I'm more interested in sales than in players numbers and sales are info even more delicate to show so it is what it is.
@UltimateOtaku91 this is exactly what is happening. The way they talk it looks like sony gave them development money ONCE and never gave them money again because of the internal problems the studio had to put their ideas together about the game.
So we are going to act like people give a damn about the ps store pc edition? LOL. Sammy if the day is slow this site never made a story about the secret fps project Sony is working with ex Deviaton devs.
@djlard thinking that devs don't care about quality just because they are owned by big companies is an insult against people who are actually outstanding in what they do, not "anyone" can work on those places.
You are talking about the entertainment industry, don't forget that. The reason why videogames exist is because they make money but at the end of the day all of them, included the games people use to express problems or life experiences are still that, entertainment. They don't need to be "art" to be great.
Everything was great until "building games that are actually fun ..." once again someone from the industry thinking they know the concept of universal fun when the concept of fun depends directly of who is playing the game.
I don't think it will reach the Palworld ground (I would be happy if they do tho) BUT if we think about other legendary franchises with online it already surpassed Halo Infinite peak. Halo may not be what it was but every time there is a new one (even more now that Infinite multi was free) thousands of people go back to the franchise looking for the same feeling it had in the 360 era. The fact that more people are giving this so called "generic coop game" a chance it's outstanding.
Spencer is still trying to play with the xbox users lol. The worst part is I'm sure people still believe in him.
I wasn't expecting anything because if I wanted to play xbox games I would play them on pc but this sure isn't much lol, I'm only interested in Grounded and I hope this erases the argument of sony nor trying anymore because they won.
"If you really wanna steal those cod players please add a PVP mode at some point to keep the more hardcore gamers engaged with the game" YIKES. I don't want to imagine a world where Helldivers wants to be cod 2.0. No thanks.
I love that Johan is so vocal when it comes to these things.
This almost looks like a Subnautica mod that became a full game. If this game can capture the charm the Subnautica games have the exclusivity could be good business.
Still can't believe Disney chose this guys to make the KOTOR remake (Sony was just paying the development to get the exclusivity like they to with other games).
It sure looks like they only want to shut down everything and sell the ips separately.
Before this what I was expecting for the rest of the year after Stellar Blade was Destiny 2 last expansion, GOW remake and Concord. This takes the possibility of GOW, still not the biggest news lol.
@Th3solution The game itself didn't touch any subject as far as we know that's why the korean government didn't do something to stop the release. It was the developer who made de comparison.
Now, this was actually good PR for Sony. Other reports have claimed korean users have praised the move from Sony to put the game out completely from Korea.
Sony investing so much money in Korea right now was probably the reason they acted so quick. So it looks like it won't have any consequences for Sony.
The problem is actually for KT LOL, Sony is one of the biggest income sources they have and this could actually ruin that relationship so hopefully they apologize or something.
@DiddyWahDiddy for good games it doesn't matter if they are services or not*
Many people who complain about services don't want to acknowledge there is a reason why the most popular ones are successful, and the reason is because they are FUN (to their user objective).
If they print the Halo MC I would buy that just for the fun of it having the ps5 banner. Other than that Grounded and KI. I was lucky because nothing big MS bought in the ps4/5 era was of my interest, Obsidian was the only studio that was a loss.
@K-Wud your opinion is respected but the 2 core ideas are things pc players don't want. They don't want to pay for prebuild pcs and they don't want to use other launchers to play games, that's why ms started releasing blizzard games on steam.
I feel like the guys at Bend Studios have a lot of heart, they work pr like few studios. Days Gone was just the wrong project with a manchild director.
I really hope they show something great next time.
@TheCollector316 once EVO Europe is up and running I wouldn't be surprised. Bungie is/was working in what they called a "fighter" but after last year maybe that never happens.
@Deoxyr1bose Sony doesn't decide everything, that's true. But the same way the EVO GM always answered the "where is ki" with "we have to ask". If you made millions with a partner who happens to have a fg and would benefit from some exposition you can do the same, ask.
@HotGoomba no one, everyone will focus on cloud while Nintendo and Sony do their thing. It'll be like buying an analog radio in 2024 (which btw Sony keeps making)
What some people need to understand is companies only care about not losing money. MS will make even more money = more gp games = gp is everywhere= people less interested in not nintendo consoles. Internet tec is catching. Sony needs reasons for people to keep buying and they have their own problems, the service dream is over, bungie doesn' know how to do business anymore, etc. Sony president has said cloud is the next focus, well MS has the lead so this is far from "Sony not trying because they won".
This is awesome, I remember watching this two years ago and wishing for a ps ver. but these games only come to consoles with direct investment from console owners like MS with Valheim.
Well looks like Sony secured V Rising and I will be there day 1.
@Deoxyr1bose maybe once it is on the next switch it will but persona 5 took 2 versions, 5 consoles and pc to sell 5 millions. A very divisive FF16 took 5 days to sell 3 million + sony paying a huge part of development costs + sony paying the marketing (the last 2 apply for 7r too). Between SE and Sega, SE has a bigger chance of making more revenue in one month (I don't say February because FF releases the 29th of a month that usually has only 28 days LOL)
What is funny is that this game is japanese I thought it was korean all this time. They sure didn't give a f*ck about AI stealing Pokemon or Ghibli LOL.
I don't know if this has mt but if it doesn't I don't think MS will care if it's exclusive or not, the sales are already in, the early access will lose hype with time.
@nomither6 this is awfully close to the ideology MS has/had behind the idea of hostile takeover over Nintendo so ... if it's just competition and not "Nintendo on pc" then that's cool.
@ATaco because they cost (dev time, servers, power, etc) way more than what mt can make, take fighting games as example. People said f2p was the way to go, multiversus came out with big numbers ... and then died the same year. FG NEED the sales from people who will only play 2 months to exist. And just like that other games.
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Re: Talking Point: Should Sony Be More Transparent About PS5, PS4's Most Played Games?
The only reason why I would like to see numbers is because I like numbers lol I don't really care who is playing what, I would never play something just because a lot of people are.
Helldivers is the perfect example. I was ready to play before the game was out, I'm glad Arrowhead is getting the recognition they deserve but now that A LOT of people are only buying the game to make bait on youtube and tiktok about the problems the game has I can't wait for the numbers to go down because I know I'm going to keep playing the game for the years to come just like the first one, 500k players per day or not.
I'm more interested in sales than in players numbers and sales are info even more delicate to show so it is what it is.
Re: Little Devil Inside Finally Resurfaces with New Trailer, Kickstarter Update
@UltimateOtaku91 this is exactly what is happening. The way they talk it looks like sony gave them development money ONCE and never gave them money again because of the internal problems the studio had to put their ideas together about the game.
Re: PS5, PS4 Is Losing the SEO War Against Its Rivals
So we are going to act like people give a damn about the ps store pc edition? LOL. Sammy if the day is slow this site never made a story about the secret fps project Sony is working with ex Deviaton devs.
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Devs Call Out State of the Industry From DICE Awards Stage
@djlard thinking that devs don't care about quality just because they are owned by big companies is an insult against people who are actually outstanding in what they do, not "anyone" can work on those places.
You are talking about the entertainment industry, don't forget that. The reason why videogames exist is because they make money but at the end of the day all of them, included the games people use to express problems or life experiences are still that, entertainment. They don't need to be "art" to be great.
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Devs Call Out State of the Industry From DICE Awards Stage
Everything was great until "building games that are actually fun ..." once again someone from the industry thinking they know the concept of universal fun when the concept of fun depends directly of who is playing the game.
Re: Xbox Fans Petitioning for Helldivers 2 to Launch on Xbox
War is a business, that include console wars lol.
Re: Helldivers 2 Beats Destiny 2's All-Time Steam Peak, Gaining on Palworld
I don't think it will reach the Palworld ground (I would be happy if they do tho) BUT if we think about other legendary franchises with online it already surpassed Halo Infinite peak. Halo may not be what it was but every time there is a new one (even more now that Infinite multi was free) thousands of people go back to the franchise looking for the same feeling it had in the 360 era.
The fact that more people are giving this so called "generic coop game" a chance it's outstanding.
Re: Helldivers 2 on PS5, PC Is One of the Biggest Games on the Planet Right Now
Imagine if it was on xbox like Spencer wants. The numbers would be "f*cking amazing" + 10 people!
LOL
Re: Microsoft Exec on Helldivers 2: I'm Not Sure Who It Helps By Not Being on Xbox
This is 100% port begging btw. Those socialists want to infiltrate our forces.
Re: Microsoft Exec on Helldivers 2: I'm Not Sure Who It Helps By Not Being on Xbox
@ShogunRok that's exactly what will happen my friend.
Remember the "Nintendo is my best friend" campaign when crossplay started to be a thing? Well this will be more of the same LOL
Re: Xbox Is Bringing Four Exclusives to PS5, But It Won't Say Which
Spencer is still trying to play with the xbox users lol. The worst part is I'm sure people still believe in him.
I wasn't expecting anything because if I wanted to play xbox games I would play them on pc but this sure isn't much lol, I'm only interested in Grounded and I hope this erases the argument of sony nor trying anymore because they won.
Re: Sorry PvP Fans, Helldivers 2 Will 'Never' Feature Competitive Modes
"If you really wanna steal those cod players please add a PVP mode at some point to keep the more hardcore gamers engaged with the game" YIKES.
I don't want to imagine a world where Helldivers wants to be cod 2.0. No thanks.
I love that Johan is so vocal when it comes to these things.
Re: Sci-Fi Survival Game Forever Skies Is a PS5 Console Exclusive
This almost looks like a Subnautica mod that became a full game. If this game can capture the charm the Subnautica games have the exclusivity could be good business.
Re: Embracer Layoffs Total Nearly 1,400 So Far, 29 Unannounced Games Cancelled
Still can't believe Disney chose this guys to make the KOTOR remake (Sony was just paying the development to get the exclusivity like they to with other games).
It sure looks like they only want to shut down everything and sell the ips separately.
Re: Microsoft Allegedly Told Employees 'Every Screen Is an Xbox' Ahead of PS5 Port Speculation
"Every screen is an xbox" sounds like a line from movie about a dystopian world LOL
Re: Sony Predicts Slide in PS5 Sales with No Major Existing IPs Planned Before March 2025
Before this what I was expecting for the rest of the year after Stellar Blade was Destiny 2 last expansion, GOW remake and Concord. This takes the possibility of GOW, still not the biggest news lol.
Re: Rise of the Ronin's Korean Release Cancelled Following Commentary Controversy
@Th3solution The game itself didn't touch any subject as far as we know that's why the korean government didn't do something to stop the release. It was the developer who made de comparison.
Now, this was actually good PR for Sony. Other reports have claimed korean users have praised the move from Sony to put the game out completely from Korea.
Sony investing so much money in Korea right now was probably the reason they acted so quick. So it looks like it won't have any consequences for Sony.
The problem is actually for KT LOL, Sony is one of the biggest income sources they have and this could actually ruin that relationship so hopefully they apologize or something.
Re: Helldivers 2 (PS5) - The Best Co-Op Shooter on PS5
Great review. I'm so happy Arrowhead is getting the lights they deserve, such good developers with love for their community and their product.
After almost 10 years of working exclusively for PS it's time for Sony to put them a ring.
Re: Helldivers 2 (PS5) - The Best Co-Op Shooter on PS5
@DiddyWahDiddy for good games it doesn't matter if they are services or not*
Many people who complain about services don't want to acknowledge there is a reason why the most popular ones are successful, and the reason is because they are FUN (to their user objective).
Re: UK Sales Charts: Helldivers 2 PS5 Drops into the Top 10
Great numbers for a great game from great devs.
Re: Poll: Which Xbox Franchises Would You Buy on PS5?
If they print the Halo MC I would buy that just for the fun of it having the ps5 banner. Other than that Grounded and KI. I was lucky because nothing big MS bought in the ps4/5 era was of my interest, Obsidian was the only studio that was a loss.
Re: Microsoft Employee Inadvertently Adds More Fuel to the Xbox Multiplatform Fire
@K-Wud your opinion is respected but the 2 core ideas are things pc players don't want. They don't want to pay for prebuild pcs and they don't want to use other launchers to play games, that's why ms started releasing blizzard games on steam.
Re: Disney Secures $1.5 Billion Stake in Epic Games, Plans 'Entertainment Universe' in Fortnite
@Dodoo thanks
Re: Disney Secures $1.5 Billion Stake in Epic Games, Plans 'Entertainment Universe' in Fortnite
I wonder what % is $1.5 billion today compared with the $1.45 from Sony 2 years ago.
Re: Helldivers 2 Pre-Orders Are Big on PS5, PC, Currently Outselling Palworld in US
I'll be doing my part (if Amazon doesn't fail me)
Re: PS5, PS4 First-Party Devs Won't Get Complacent Even if Competition Degrades
I feel like the guys at Bend Studios have a lot of heart, they work pr like few studios. Days Gone was just the wrong project with a manchild director.
I really hope they show something great next time.
Re: Stellar Blade Director Says 'Korean NieR' Comparison Is a 'Great Honour'
That SoP was wild.
Re: Evo 2024 Games Announced, Tekken 8 and Street Fighter 6 Headline
@TheCollector316 once EVO Europe is up and running I wouldn't be surprised. Bungie is/was working in what they called a "fighter" but after last year maybe that never happens.
Re: Evo 2024 Games Announced, Tekken 8 and Street Fighter 6 Headline
@Deoxyr1bose Sony doesn't decide everything, that's true. But the same way the EVO GM always answered the "where is ki" with "we have to ask". If you made millions with a partner who happens to have a fg and would benefit from some exposition you can do the same, ask.
Re: Evo 2024 Games Announced, Tekken 8 and Street Fighter 6 Headline
@Deoxyr1bose after Hogwarts success the PS-WB partnership is something both parties won't let go for now. MK had an invitation all the time.
Re: Evo 2024 Games Announced, Tekken 8 and Street Fighter 6 Headline
If xbox goes 3rd party KI can be a retro tournament in the future, Sony already gave it some love last year. A PS port could help a lot LOL.
Re: Helldivers 2 Outlines the Story So Far in Stylish Trailer, Confirms Post-Launch Updates
ArrowHead has the style and personality you should expect from people who live making vg. It's time for Sony to put them a ring.
Re: Xbox Set to Announce Multi-Platform Plans Next Week
@get2sammyb this is it!
Re: Xbox Set to Announce Multi-Platform Plans Next Week
Wouldn't it be funny if everything is a lie and the announcement is the all digital series x?
Re: Rugrats: Adventures in Gameland Brings Nostalgic Side-Scrolling Fun to PS5, PS4 in March
What I would pay for a "Aaahh!!! Real Monsters" snes game remake.
Re: Rumour: Even Gears of War Is Reportedly in Talks to Come to PlayStation
@tangyzesty and I don't care if you care about cloud or not LOL. My opinion was about the big companies not consumers.
Re: Rumour: Even Gears of War Is Reportedly in Talks to Come to PlayStation
@HotGoomba no one, everyone will focus on cloud while Nintendo and Sony do their thing. It'll be like buying an analog radio in 2024 (which btw Sony keeps making)
Re: One of PS5's Most Promising Games Just Got a Seriously Stylish Trailer, Demo on the Way
Korean and chinese games are real and are starting to drop. Welcome to the new age
Re: Rumour: Even More Xbox Exclusives Coming to PS5 Than Already Reported
@nomither6 couple years? You mean the lockdown years that made every multi million project in existence get delay?
Re: Rumour: Even More Xbox Exclusives Coming to PS5 Than Already Reported
What some people need to understand is companies only care about not losing money. MS will make even more money = more gp games = gp is everywhere= people less interested in not nintendo consoles.
Internet tec is catching. Sony needs reasons for people to keep buying and they have their own problems, the service dream is over, bungie doesn' know how to do business anymore, etc.
Sony president has said cloud is the next focus, well MS has the lead so this is far from "Sony not trying because they won".
Re: Rumour: Xbox's Indiana Jones Game Also Being 'Considered' for PS5
TBH the only xbox game I want to play is Grounded, Machine are great devs tho.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Console Exclusive Starfield Is Setting a Course for PS5
Those crazy twitter guys who said MS was only buying to go 3rd party were right LOL
Re: Preview: Helldivers 2 Utterly Revels in Its Chaotic Bug Battles
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Re: Hit Vampire RPG V Rising Arrives on PS5 This Year
This is awesome, I remember watching this two years ago and wishing for a ps ver. but these games only come to consoles with direct investment from console owners like MS with Valheim.
Well looks like Sony secured V Rising and I will be there day 1.
Re: New Guitar Controller for Fortnite Festival, Rock Band 4 Revealed for PS5, PS4
If this works for Clone Hero I'm so in.
Re: Japan's Shibuya Station Decked Out with Awesome Persona 3 Reload Ads
@Deoxyr1bose maybe once it is on the next switch it will but persona 5 took 2 versions, 5 consoles and pc to sell 5 millions. A very divisive FF16 took 5 days to sell 3 million + sony paying a huge part of development costs + sony paying the marketing (the last 2 apply for 7r too). Between SE and Sega, SE has a bigger chance of making more revenue in one month (I don't say February because FF releases the 29th of a month that usually has only 28 days LOL)
Re: Acclaimed Platformer Celeste Celebrates Sixth Anniversary with Free 3D Spin-Off
Saw a video of a guy who maid some celeste leves in 3D with their blessing so I guess the result was good enough for the devs to make their own.
Re: Shuhei Yoshida Eyes 'Pokemon with Guns' Phenomena Palworld for PS5
What is funny is that this game is japanese I thought it was korean all this time. They sure didn't give a f*ck about AI stealing Pokemon or Ghibli LOL.
I don't know if this has mt but if it doesn't I don't think MS will care if it's exclusive or not, the sales are already in, the early access will lose hype with time.
Re: Shuhei Yoshida Eyes 'Pokemon with Guns' Phenomena Palworld for PS5
@nomither6 this is awfully close to the ideology MS has/had behind the idea of hostile takeover over Nintendo so ... if it's just competition and not "Nintendo on pc" then that's cool.
Re: Foamstars Releases 6th February as a PS Plus Essential Game
@ATaco because they cost (dev time, servers, power, etc) way more than what mt can make, take fighting games as example. People said f2p was the way to go, multiversus came out with big numbers ... and then died the same year. FG NEED the sales from people who will only play 2 months to exist. And just like that other games.