To be fair, the game is not due for a full release until Spring/Summer of 2017. There's still some time for it to improve. The game is caught between being a full release and an early access title, as it stands.
I'm quite enjoying this return to point and click adventure games. Yesterday Origins was really quite good, and I loved Broken Age. Shame this one didn't turn out so well because I love the art style.
@get2sammyb I know, it's really quite surreal. And then, after all this time, both games come out within weeks of each other. I feel like I'm dreaming when I put them in my PS4. There was a moment when I thought they wouldn't come at all.
@Get2sammyb Well, since I was so rudely overlooked (I joke, of course) to post my game this week, both The Last Guardian AND Final Fantasy XV will be fighting for my attention this weekend. What a time to be alive!
@Neolit @es_lion I've not had that problem. I've been deleting games and reinstalling them later on my PS4 for the last two years, and I've never lost a save file. That said, making a copy on the cloud, as @Neolit says, is definitely a good idea.
@FullbringIchigo Also, I agree, they really should give us support for external HDD. It would solve a lot of issues.
Yeah, I wish more publishers would release games earlier in the year. There's been quite a few games in Q4 that I want to play like Watch Dogs 2 and Titanfall 2, but they're getting lost among all the others. There's just too many for one quarter, and not enough time to play them.
@Flaming_Kaiser well, it was financial suicide in the end. They went bankrupt in March 2012, and I was made redundant. They were later bought out by another company which is why they're still around today, although they're struggling.
I assume that GAME is one of the companies complaining here, considering they're not doing so well. It's funny because I used to work there and we would be putting new games on sale just 2-4 weeks after its launch. I still remember putting Forza 3 on sales for just £20 after 3 weeks on sale. That's no different to any of these Black Friday deals we're seeing. They started this a long time ago. If it's purely down to people waiting for the prices to drop, then I'm surprised it's taken people this long to cotton on.
@BAMozzy This article wasn't intended as a critique on the PS4 Pro at all, it was just an observational post based on my experiences playing through The Last of Us again in 4K. I'm not saying that graphics aren't important – I mean, I bought a PS4 Pro and a 4K HDR TV for a reason. I'm just hoping that graphics won't be the only improvements or focus at the expense of gameplay, depth, "soul", etc., moving forward. Hence in the final paragraph, "here's hoping that graphics will not be the sole focus moving forward".
@mantralux Yeah, the console actually scales back its power when it's running non-patched games on the Pro. Sony says this is to keep functionality and performance optimised across the board.
@mantralux the game has to be patched to take advantage of the extra power in the PS4 Pro. Otherwise the console scales back and plays standard PS4 games exactly the same.
@get2sammyb I just bought this Panasonic model, Sammy, and while my PS4 Pro isn't coming until tomorrow, the picture quality that I've seen so far – through watching 4K Netflix, YouTube, Amazon, and playing standard PS4 games – is stunning. Only 42ms input lag in Game mode, too, and according to reviews this remains the same even with HDR turned on. I guess I'll find out myself tomorrow!
@themcnoisy @Neolit People live on their phones now, even when they're outside. People are already "plugged-in" and tuned out from what's happening around them, so I'm not even sure there will be a difference with the rise of VR :/
@rjejr Yeah, I was in my local GAME store in the UK a few days ago and they had big posters outside the front door saying they had plenty of PlayStation VR stock for walk-in customers. Hopefully that's more of an indication that people don't want to buy from GAME than it is PlayStation VR not doing well!
@Bad-MuthaAdebisi Yeah, I think it's all the smaller side quests that made the Witcher 3 so good. The main plot wasn't really all that interesting for me. But that's what made The Witcher 3 so special: it somehow made the side quests more than just side quests – I was actually invested in them as stories in their own right, rather than doing them just to be a completionist or to level up.
@tonyp1987 Rockstar is indeed a part of 2K's parent company, Take-Two Interactive, but they are run as a separate brand. They're not included in this statistic.
This is so exciting. Journey is still one of my favourite games of all time – perhaps not in terms of gameplay, but the experience I had playing it was incredibly memorable.
The idea that opponents will start attacking a stuffed toy instead of your party when you throw it out there is ridiculous. It look really stupid in the video above. I would rather they just kept Moogles out altogether.
@Muertoweirdo That's a good question. When the Xbox One S was released, there were reports of improved framerates in games that hadn't been updated at all; they simply performed better due to the increased power of the new console. I'm intrigued to know if this will be the case for PS4 Pro myself.
@GBMatthew The original is always there. This isn't a remaster, it's a whole new remake, and with a new visual style, battle system, and tone, at least both games can exist side-by-side. I don't feel like this remake will replace the original – at least it won't for me.
@WanderingBullet Yeah, I'm not a fan of Vaan either, but he wasn't really the main character of XII. I feel like, unlike the FF games that preceded it, XII was much more about the whole party and the overarching political narrative than it was about a single protagonist. Also, characters like Balthier, Fran and Basch make up for it! In terms of gameplay and battle systems, XII is my favourite FF game hands down.
@arnoldlayne83 @misterdog Like I said, we don't have a wheel to review it on, and neither is Push Square making enough money to buy one to review it with, so we can't review it with a wheel. I'm sorry that this is the case, and believe me I would love to play this with a wheel, but we can't.
So, we can either not put a review up, or we can put a review up for the majority – those who play with a controller. We decided to put one up for most people. If that review isn't for you, that's fine, you can move on. But that doesn't nullify the points of the review for those who will play with a pad. I'm not going to spend any more time responding to this now because we're going in circles.
@misterdog It might not be mentioned to your liking in the writing, but it was kept in mind as much as possible. I can't just mark a game up based on a scenario that I'll never play, though. To be honest, I was considering giving it a 4, so take that as you will. A lot of thought went in to putting this review up with this score because I knew there would be a backlash, but it's an honest review that doesn't bend to what others think I should give it – which is a good thing for the sake of the industry, believe me.
@Iconr6racer I never claimed to be a "sim junky", so I'm not sure how you think I'm even TRYING to fool anyone. But I do like racing simulators. Believe it or not, there are people who like racing simulators and play with a controller. Sure, they're not as "hardcore", but they're by no means irrelevant, and they make up the majority of the racing community. I think a good racing sim works well with a controller as well as a wheel, though.
@Iconr6racer Or the reviewer was expecting a sim, got a sim, and simply didn't like it? That's also a possible scenario. The review tries to keep in mind all of the potential players. If you're a sim fan, you don't even need this review – as is evident in all of the comments. Those people are just unhappy with the score because they disagree, but that's fine – it doesn't mean the review or the points it makes are unfair or irrelevant. As for those who might think they want to play a sim, this review might actually be very useful. We can't possibly review this for everyone; it's impossible to keep everyone happy.
@Solocapers As above, really, if you're a sim fan then you don't need this review anyway, right? You know if it's for you based on other reviews and based on what I've written in here. We don't have a wheel to review it on, and I'm not about to be provided with one for free, so it can't be used for the review. I've been upfront about that by mentioning the controller in the review and again in the comments. The game certainly doesn't come with a wheel, so as far as I'm concerned reviewing the product without one – again, as most people will play it – is not unfair.
@solocapers So you're saying I should review it with a scenario by which I can never relate in mind, and to always remember a scenario by which I will never play it to make it fairer? Does that not sound disingenuous? A review is, at the end of the day, an opinion. If we were to keep in mind every scenario by which others might play the game, you would never have an honest review. Is that really what you want? Does it not make more sense that we have a wide breadth of reviews for people of different situations? Or do you think all reviewers should have the same opinion?
The review is completely fair because it describes exactly what problems I had with the game. If you then read that and think they're not an issue to you, that's fine, but that doesn't make the review unfair – it just means it doesn't align with your priorities.
@solocapers To review this game without a wheel is like reviewing a game for a console and how people on that console will, more often than not, play it. A lot of people will claim that playing a shooter with a controller is also a big no, but alas most people do. And this is nothing like Project CARS on a controller – that game actually works right, whereas Assetto Corsa just doesn't feel good to play, regardless of how "realistic" that may be.
@misterdog Like I said, you're welcome to ignore my review since it doesn't answer what you wanted from a review, then, but that doesn't mean it's not good for others. Remember, not every review needs to support what you personally think it deserves.
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Re: Firewatch Rappels to One Million Copies Sold
Much deserved. Superb game.
Re: Soapbox: Overcooked at Christmas Is a Recipe for Success
Been meaning to play this game. Christmas is an ideal time for me to play it with my dad when I visit (if he's willing!).
Re: Review: Steep (PS4)
@AlexStinton if it's online only, do you need PS+ to play it?
Re: Feature: How Abstraction Games Evolved to Get ARK on PS4
To be fair, the game is not due for a full release until Spring/Summer of 2017. There's still some time for it to improve. The game is caught between being a full release and an early access title, as it stands.
Re: Square Enix Has Plans for Final Fantasy's 30th Anniversary, Will Announce Them Soon
I want it all!
Re: Review: The Little Acre (PS4)
I'm quite enjoying this return to point and click adventure games. Yesterday Origins was really quite good, and I loved Broken Age. Shame this one didn't turn out so well because I love the art style.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 147
@get2sammyb I know, it's really quite surreal. And then, after all this time, both games come out within weeks of each other. I feel like I'm dreaming when I put them in my PS4. There was a moment when I thought they wouldn't come at all.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 147
@Get2sammyb Well, since I was so rudely overlooked (I joke, of course) to post my game this week, both The Last Guardian AND Final Fantasy XV will be fighting for my attention this weekend. What a time to be alive!
Re: You Can Jump Back into Final Fantasy XIV For Free Until the 4th January
@Azikira Yeah, same.
Re: PSX 2016: Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Teams Up with PS4 in 2017
@JaxonH Unfortunately not. Just PS4, Xbox One, and PC as it stands.
Re: PSX 2016: Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Teams Up with PS4 in 2017
@Vix Fixed. Sorry about that
Re: It's Buy One PS4 Game, Get One Free on the EU PlayStation Store This Month
@Neolit @es_lion I've not had that problem. I've been deleting games and reinstalling them later on my PS4 for the last two years, and I've never lost a save file. That said, making a copy on the cloud, as @Neolit says, is definitely a good idea.
@FullbringIchigo Also, I agree, they really should give us support for external HDD. It would solve a lot of issues.
Re: It's Buy One PS4 Game, Get One Free on the EU PlayStation Store This Month
@FullbringIchigo You can uninstall and reinstall games. You won't lose your save files, they're stored separately.
Re: Review: Darksiders: Warmastered Edition (PS4)
Never played the Darksiders games, but I've always liked the look of them. I'll definitely pick this one up at some point!
Re: Review: Yesterday Origins (PS4)
@ApostateMage There's plenty of humour. It's definitely not an overly serious game.
Re: Review: Yesterday Origins (PS4)
@dryrain If you're into this kind of game there's plenty to like here.
Re: Talking Point: Is Sony's Fall PS4 Exclusives Strategy Paying Off?
Yeah, I wish more publishers would release games earlier in the year. There's been quite a few games in Q4 that I want to play like Watch Dogs 2 and Titanfall 2, but they're getting lost among all the others. There's just too many for one quarter, and not enough time to play them.
Re: Black Friday Sale Arrives on UK PSN Store with Discounts on Uncharted 4, Skyrim, and More
@Bliquid yes! If you like narrative driven games, then I think you'll like Life is Strange. It's a great game and an absolute steal at that price.
Re: Games Retailers Blame Black Friday for Poor Sales
@Flaming_Kaiser well, it was financial suicide in the end. They went bankrupt in March 2012, and I was made redundant. They were later bought out by another company which is why they're still around today, although they're struggling.
Re: Games Retailers Blame Black Friday for Poor Sales
I assume that GAME is one of the companies complaining here, considering they're not doing so well. It's funny because I used to work there and we would be putting new games on sale just 2-4 weeks after its launch. I still remember putting Forza 3 on sales for just £20 after 3 weeks on sale. That's no different to any of these Black Friday deals we're seeing. They started this a long time ago. If it's purely down to people waiting for the prices to drop, then I'm surprised it's taken people this long to cotton on.
Re: Soapbox: How The Last of Us Proves That Resolution Isn't Everything
@BAMozzy This article wasn't intended as a critique on the PS4 Pro at all, it was just an observational post based on my experiences playing through The Last of Us again in 4K. I'm not saying that graphics aren't important – I mean, I bought a PS4 Pro and a 4K HDR TV for a reason. I'm just hoping that graphics won't be the only improvements or focus at the expense of gameplay, depth, "soul", etc., moving forward. Hence in the final paragraph, "here's hoping that graphics will not be the sole focus moving forward".
Re: Feature: 10 PS4 Pro Games That Shine on Sony's New Supercharged System
@mantralux Yeah, the console actually scales back its power when it's running non-patched games on the Pro. Sony says this is to keep functionality and performance optimised across the board.
Re: Feature: 10 PS4 Pro Games That Shine on Sony's New Supercharged System
@mantralux the game has to be patched to take advantage of the extra power in the PS4 Pro. Otherwise the console scales back and plays standard PS4 games exactly the same.
Re: Guide: The Best 4K UHD HDR TVs for PS4 Pro in 2016
@get2sammyb I just bought this Panasonic model, Sammy, and while my PS4 Pro isn't coming until tomorrow, the picture quality that I've seen so far – through watching 4K Netflix, YouTube, Amazon, and playing standard PS4 games – is stunning. Only 42ms input lag in Game mode, too, and according to reviews this remains the same even with HDR turned on. I guess I'll find out myself tomorrow!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01CEBQSWQ/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1XBUMXW9DEWN8&coliid=I1YMBEXQBFNVK3&psc=1
Re: PlayStation VR Is Now Sold Out at Amazon UK Until 2017
@SnowstormX Fair enough. The store I was talking about was in Edinburgh.
Re: PlayStation VR Is Now Sold Out at Amazon UK Until 2017
@themcnoisy @Neolit People live on their phones now, even when they're outside. People are already "plugged-in" and tuned out from what's happening around them, so I'm not even sure there will be a difference with the rise of VR :/
Re: PlayStation VR Is Now Sold Out at Amazon UK Until 2017
@rjejr Yeah, I was in my local GAME store in the UK a few days ago and they had big posters outside the front door saying they had plenty of PlayStation VR stock for walk-in customers. Hopefully that's more of an indication that people don't want to buy from GAME than it is PlayStation VR not doing well!
Re: Soapbox: Skyrim Still Has Plenty to Offer Five Years On
@JaxonH try being a Mage. I also find melee combat cumbersome and unsatisfying. Casting magic feels a lot better to me.
Re: Soapbox: Skyrim Still Has Plenty to Offer Five Years On
@Bad-MuthaAdebisi Yeah, I think it's all the smaller side quests that made the Witcher 3 so good. The main plot wasn't really all that interesting for me. But that's what made The Witcher 3 so special: it somehow made the side quests more than just side quests – I was actually invested in them as stories in their own right, rather than doing them just to be a completionist or to level up.
Re: PS4 Pro Is Already Being Sold in Some Stores
@Churchy Nice
Re: Mafia III Is Somehow 2K Games' Fastest Selling Release
@tonyp1987 Rockstar is indeed a part of 2K's parent company, Take-Two Interactive, but they are run as a separate brand. They're not included in this statistic.
Re: Journey Developer Finally Teases Next Title
This is so exciting. Journey is still one of my favourite games of all time – perhaps not in terms of gameplay, but the experience I had playing it was incredibly memorable.
Re: Wow, Moogles Have Really Fallen From Grace in Final Fantasy XV
The idea that opponents will start attacking a stuffed toy instead of your party when you throw it out there is ridiculous. It look really stupid in the video above. I would rather they just kept Moogles out altogether.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want to Know About PS4 Pro?
@Muertoweirdo That's a good question. When the Xbox One S was released, there were reports of improved framerates in games that hadn't been updated at all; they simply performed better due to the increased power of the new console. I'm intrigued to know if this will be the case for PS4 Pro myself.
Re: UK Retailer GAME Wants to Charge You to Demo PlayStation VR
Wow, they must really be struggling right now to have to resort to this.
Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Battle System Will Be Detailed Next Time the Game's Shown
@GBMatthew The original is always there. This isn't a remaster, it's a whole new remake, and with a new visual style, battle system, and tone, at least both games can exist side-by-side. I don't feel like this remake will replace the original – at least it won't for me.
Re: Video: Going Undercover with Aragami on PS4
Love the soundtrack. Framerate aside, the game looks pretty good to me.
Re: TGS 2016: Remember the Glory of Final Fantasy XII with New PS4 Trailer
@WanderingBullet Yeah, I'm not a fan of Vaan either, but he wasn't really the main character of XII. I feel like, unlike the FF games that preceded it, XII was much more about the whole party and the overarching political narrative than it was about a single protagonist. Also, characters like Balthier, Fran and Basch make up for it! In terms of gameplay and battle systems, XII is my favourite FF game hands down.
Re: TGS 2016: Nioh Shows It's Got Soul in New Trailer
Oh yeah! I can't wait for this, it looks fantastic.
Re: TGS 2016: Japan Sure Knows Its Audience for PlayStation VR
All three of those girls have the same face!
Re: Free Updated UEFA Champions League PS4 App Is a Must for Footy Fans
Didn't even know this existed. Looks cool.
Re: Video: You Really, Really Should Play Inside on PS4
@Neolit Destructoid actually did go and give it a 4/10
Re: Video: You Really, Really Should Play Inside on PS4
@themcnoisy Amen, brother One of those 5's was even reviewed with a wheel (God forbid).
Re: Review: Assetto Corsa (PS4)
@arnoldlayne83 @misterdog Like I said, we don't have a wheel to review it on, and neither is Push Square making enough money to buy one to review it with, so we can't review it with a wheel. I'm sorry that this is the case, and believe me I would love to play this with a wheel, but we can't.
So, we can either not put a review up, or we can put a review up for the majority – those who play with a controller. We decided to put one up for most people. If that review isn't for you, that's fine, you can move on. But that doesn't nullify the points of the review for those who will play with a pad. I'm not going to spend any more time responding to this now because we're going in circles.
Re: Review: Assetto Corsa (PS4)
@misterdog It might not be mentioned to your liking in the writing, but it was kept in mind as much as possible. I can't just mark a game up based on a scenario that I'll never play, though. To be honest, I was considering giving it a 4, so take that as you will. A lot of thought went in to putting this review up with this score because I knew there would be a backlash, but it's an honest review that doesn't bend to what others think I should give it – which is a good thing for the sake of the industry, believe me.
Re: Review: Assetto Corsa (PS4)
@Iconr6racer I never claimed to be a "sim junky", so I'm not sure how you think I'm even TRYING to fool anyone. But I do like racing simulators. Believe it or not, there are people who like racing simulators and play with a controller. Sure, they're not as "hardcore", but they're by no means irrelevant, and they make up the majority of the racing community. I think a good racing sim works well with a controller as well as a wheel, though.
Re: Review: Assetto Corsa (PS4)
@Iconr6racer Or the reviewer was expecting a sim, got a sim, and simply didn't like it? That's also a possible scenario. The review tries to keep in mind all of the potential players. If you're a sim fan, you don't even need this review – as is evident in all of the comments. Those people are just unhappy with the score because they disagree, but that's fine – it doesn't mean the review or the points it makes are unfair or irrelevant. As for those who might think they want to play a sim, this review might actually be very useful. We can't possibly review this for everyone; it's impossible to keep everyone happy.
@Solocapers As above, really, if you're a sim fan then you don't need this review anyway, right? You know if it's for you based on other reviews and based on what I've written in here. We don't have a wheel to review it on, and I'm not about to be provided with one for free, so it can't be used for the review. I've been upfront about that by mentioning the controller in the review and again in the comments. The game certainly doesn't come with a wheel, so as far as I'm concerned reviewing the product without one – again, as most people will play it – is not unfair.
Re: Review: Assetto Corsa (PS4)
@solocapers So you're saying I should review it with a scenario by which I can never relate in mind, and to always remember a scenario by which I will never play it to make it fairer? Does that not sound disingenuous? A review is, at the end of the day, an opinion. If we were to keep in mind every scenario by which others might play the game, you would never have an honest review. Is that really what you want? Does it not make more sense that we have a wide breadth of reviews for people of different situations? Or do you think all reviewers should have the same opinion?
The review is completely fair because it describes exactly what problems I had with the game. If you then read that and think they're not an issue to you, that's fine, but that doesn't make the review unfair – it just means it doesn't align with your priorities.
Re: Review: Assetto Corsa (PS4)
@solocapers To review this game without a wheel is like reviewing a game for a console and how people on that console will, more often than not, play it. A lot of people will claim that playing a shooter with a controller is also a big no, but alas most people do. And this is nothing like Project CARS on a controller – that game actually works right, whereas Assetto Corsa just doesn't feel good to play, regardless of how "realistic" that may be.
Re: Review: Assetto Corsa (PS4)
@misterdog Like I said, you're welcome to ignore my review since it doesn't answer what you wanted from a review, then, but that doesn't mean it's not good for others. Remember, not every review needs to support what you personally think it deserves.