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Sony marketing, never doubt it’s ability to sell a game.

I don’t know how. Given how the story went there’s no way to bring him back.

I think 8 is likely the score most people will go to. From what I’ve read it is good game, but doesn’t innovate much from the original.

@K1LLEGAL that’s mainly because they’re the only 2 studios with anything worth playing on the damn thing.

Not going to lie, I expected a higher score. Especially since other outlets are saying it’s the best superhero game yet.

Oh this will DEFINITELY go over well. Following up a Nintendo Direct on the same day with no first party announcements won’t end badly at all.

Can’t wait till this comes to Xbox and I can finally play it

@Sil_Am because console wars ***** is terrible and only really fought by the publishers. Gamers just want to enjoy games.

@Nepp67 what tweet?

@Nepp67 that just sounds like another Square Enix cover up.

That isn’t saying much is it.

I don’t know man, those trailers made it look super generic.

It was ok, though it was let down by half the grand finals being Mirror matchups.

@OrtadragoonX yeah and they all sucked. Eddie is the only Venom that’s even remotely interesting. Maybe they can do something interesting with Harry, but it’s 2 we’re not getting a good adaptation of Eddie in videogame form.

So Venom is Harry then. Oh dear, that’s disappointing.

That’s not a good sign for FF16’s longevity. I expected a slight drop in its second week but not to drop out of the top 10 entirely.

Oh yeah, this will go over well.

Please don’t be an action RPG

A 9? Huh, thought it’d be a 10. But, hey, 9 is still really good.

I can’t wait til this game comes out and I can stop seeing and hearing about it everywhere.

@AdamNovice Harry as a character doesn’t really work for Venom. Venom is obsessed with killing Spider Man because he was wronged by him. Eddie’s life ruined by Spider man albeit indirectly, which is interesting since Eddie is the Everyman Spidey always fights for. He’s living proof that no matter what Spidey does some people will slip through the cracks.

Nothing we’ve seen indicates Harry will be like this. If they we’re going to make Harry Venom they should have laid the groundwork better in the first game.

@AdamNovice making Harry Venom is dumb though. Eddie is the only Venom that’s been remotely interesting and I’ve been waiting for a comic accurate game depiction for years.

Oh cool Venom is in the game, and it’s not Eddie Brock. Damn it Insomniac you had one job.

This is some premium levels of cope.

They really need him to stay quiet. Every time he speaks up he only makes things worse.

Wow, first Rings of Power and now this. Forget rolling in his grave, Tolkien’s doing a full acrobatic routine.

I warned you all that you were setting yourself up for disappointment.

Honestly, no. It ended strong with Spider Man but it was mostly just mid throughout. It doesn’t speak well when one of the best new things was a teaser for a remake of a nearly 20 year old game.

Not exactly a good sign when this was one of the best reveals at the event

I feel like people are setting themselves up for disappointment. I’ve been through this with Nintendo directs, people expect the world and end up being upset when it didn’t give them it, even if it ended up being good overall.

Need gameplay now! Or screenshots, anything that shows what the game is like.

I’m not expecting much to be honest. These showcases haven’t been all that impressive so far. That said it might be worth watching for third party stuff, we’re defo getting gameplay for the new Mortal Kombat so it’ll be worth it for that.

No room for smaller games in modern Sony

So it’s like VR then? Not the future people claimed it to be, but will likely still have a niche in the market.

This whole deal has been a clown show. Was hoping it was going to end soon but guess not.

I knew my country would screw everything up.

It’s kind of dumb it isn’t available to everyone right away.

@Impossibilium the hell’d you mention me for? I was just making a jab at the uselessness of the boycott. I didn’t even mention you at all.

The boycott really did wonders for them huh.

You enjoyed Final Fantasy XIII?

And people got mad at me for daring to suggest that marketing played a huge part in selling games.

@bkeswick past experiences can give a general idea of the quality you might expect with a game. There’s a reason why games are sometimes marketed with the phrase “from the maker of (insert game title here)”. People will read that, remember a past experience with it and pick it up if they remember it fondly.

Putting out quality products helps people come back. However, it’s not a guarantee your future products will sell better.

Sony is pretty consistent when it comes to putting out quality games, but that doesn’t mean all their games sell equally. While games like The Last of Us, Spider-Man and God of War sell big numbers, games like Gravity Rush, Sackboy and Tearaway sell moderately well at best or poorly at worst.

You want to know what the first group has that the second doesn’t? Massive advertising budgets. They’re marketed to hell and back to get the games into as many peoples faces as possible. After all, how can people buy a game if they don’t know it exists.

@bkeswick To clarify, what I meant was that the quality of a game cannot be a factor when selling a game to a customer because the customer has no means of knowing that until they play it for themselves. The only thing they have to go off of are adverts or gameplay presentations which aren’t always indicative of the final product. Well, those and demo’s, but they’re becoming increasingly rare.

@bkeswick in an ideal world yes, but we don’t live in an ideal world. How many crappy products have you or other people bought simply because it was advertised well? I know I’ve bought my fair share.

Don’t get me wrong, having a good product helps you build a strong fan base and boosts confidence in the brand, but when it comes to making a sale, marketing is king.

@4kgk2 no, because how can a customer know it’s a great exclusive if they haven’t played it yet? The answer is they don’t. The only way you can get them to buy it is to market the game to them in an effective way. Almost all major video game success stories are down to how well they were marketed. The exclusives being good certainly helps build confidence in the brand but it’s not what puts units in people’s homes. Good marketing does.

@Doublecell it really isn’t. Any kind of dominance is bad.

@LordBakemono yes really. If a game being good quality was all it needed to sell well then every well reviewed game would sell millions of copies. But as we know that isn’t the case. In fact there are examples of the opposite happening, bad games selling really well.

And the reason for that was due to being marketed well. Marketing is the lifeblood for a video games success, and a lot of why Sony is dominating right now is due to how effective they are when it comes to advertising their product. Why do you think companies sign exclusivity deals with them? Because they want access to their marketing power.

@4kgk2 no Sony dominates due to having a more effective marketing strategy. The quality of the game is not what sells it, it’s how you advertise it.

And as @northofthewall put it, Sony dominating leads to them becoming cocky and arrogant, which leads to disaster as the PS3 showed. So it doesn’t matter how you spin it, one company dominating the industry is not good or healthy for that industry.

@TheTony316 I agree but that still doesn’t make Sony dominating a good thing.