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I also dislike how the PS1/PS2 Classic collection includes some remasters for PS4/PS5. I don't care about those, just show me the original retro games please.

Kind of weird how people assumed this was going to work exactly like the previous Lego games when it's a completely different developer. The last Lego game made by Traveller's Tales was Skywalker Saga.

Anyway, I'm not a big fan of Horizon games. I played them both, and they're fine, but nothing truely special in my opinion. Bummer that this one isn't great, but I'm sure the target audience will enjoy it anyway.

This is cool, but I just started it a couple of days ago. I wonder how well it will explain the changes if I have already gotten past the intro...

@EfYI Yeah, I get it. I have a low/mid-range PC with RTX3060 myself which costs more than PS5 Pro, but not by that much (it was 999€ a few years ago, so pretty much the price of PS5 Pro with the disc drive... in Europe anyway). I don't think an average user needs a RTX 4090 because you have the freedom to turn the settings down (which allows you to play games on older PCs as well). But yeah, the higher tier Nvidia cards are ridiculously expensive.

I also have an Android phone so Apple can keep their iPhones.

@EfYI This is a Playstation site, so I'd rather focus on Playstation products.

@ThatVSMbro Oh, don't get me wrong, I could afford PS5 Pro as well. But I don't think it's worth it. It's not just about the price, but the value it offers.

@Northern_munkey Sounds like fun! I can imagine GT7 being very impressive on PS5 Pro, especially with a wheel and maybe even PSVR2. Unfortunately racing wheels take a lot of space, otherwise I would be tempted to get one.

@Flaming_Kaiser Linux is actually pretty decent for gaming these days thanks to Wine/Proton improving a lot, and also Steam Deck for making Linux more relevant than it was before. Not worth it if you play online games, though, since some games with kernel level anti-cheat will not work on Linux.

But that's besides the point, I just wanted to mention it as a Linux user.

@Flaming_Kaiser You can always use Linux instead.

Seems kind of similar to RTX Super Resolution which works on video without motion vectors like the DLSS does (presumably PSSR does too). Better than nothing, and works well on static UI elements, but it doesn't look anywhere close to 4K (which is fine).

@Northern_munkey @LogicStrikesAgain Generally console makers get their profits from software, not hardware. There are exceptions to this rule, like accessories which are sold at big profits (which is kind of obvious when you look at the much discussed PS5 Slim/Pro stand, disc drive as well as DualSense etc).

Affordability (of the hardware) is one of the biggest strengths of consoles when compared to PC gaming. Especially with PS5 Pro they're inching closer and closer to the price point of a gaming PC, which is kind of alarming. Yes, you can't match the performance of PS5 Pro with a similarly priced PC, but on the other hand it offers a lot of value outside of gaming (not to mention generally cheaper games).

So is PS5 Pro actually a good deal in the end? I personally don't think it is, especially compared to quite affordable and fairly priced PS5. But obviously everyone should make their own choice, and not just listen to my ramblings.

@LogicStrikesAgain I agree with you 100% that Apple and Nvidia products (specifically the higher tier stuff) are far overpriced, though.

@IamJT PS5 already got a price increase due to inflation/rising component costs. The price increase of 300€ (in Europe) without a disc drive or a stand is far more than you'd expect from a mid gen refresh.

@LogicStrikesAgain @DonJorginho @AhmadSumadi I think it was fairly obvious that I was exaggerating, but the point is that the device is far overpriced. I think the right course of action is to voice my opinion (even if it won't change a thing) because if everyone is okay with them asking for a ridiculous price, then it will become a norm.

But yes, video games are a luxury and Pro is kind of an enthusiast device. Doesn't change what I think of the price point, though.

I bet they have when you have to sell your house to afford a PS5 Pro, and have to pay 30€ for a stand that probably costs them pennies to make.

I'm sure all of the three people with 8K TVs will be happy.

@TrickyDicky99 In my opinion GT Sports is barely a GT game since it lacks single player content. GT7 is not perfect, but it's way better than Sports.

@Cerny PS5 Pro mostly improves the GPU performance, but the CPU performance is not that much better.

I will not buy anything with AI generated content.

@3Above I enjoyed it a lot too. It looked nice (although admittedly a desert wasn't the most exciting place visually) and played like a Monster Hunter game. But there are still things to be improved. First and foremost, the performance. But also minor little tweaks like adding the hitstop to make the combat juicier.

@Pat_trick The whole point of public beta versions is to gather data and feedback, and to test servers etc. So I'd imagine they will focus on things that people found problematic, like the lack of hitstop.

But hey, at least it's PS5 Pro enhanced!

@AhmadSumadi I think resource talk is completely fair. Sure, this remaster didn't take resources from Guerrilla Games, but Nixxes certainly could've worked on games that would be far more interesting to remaster. And yes, they work on multiple projects at once (some for Playstation, most for PC) but that doesn't change the fact that there are dozens and dozens of cool PS3 and PS4 games that are either not playable on current gen consoles or are not available on PC.

@Americansamurai1 If they are going to launch PS Plus on PC and require a subscription to play their games online, that will not go well. Having to pay for PS Plus on console is bad enough for a feature that should be free (and was free just a couple of generations ago).

Am I the only one who has never heard of Empire of Ants?

I think it does look much nicer in general, but they really dropped the ball on character lighting in the cutscenes. Well, assuming that the trailer from a month ago showed more or less final lighting. But in those scenes the original looked much nicer in my opinion.

I choose not to like it then.

@naruball Well, in my experience HBO is much more talented with TV shows than Amazon is, so makes sense.

@PuppetMaster Either way, Sony has to be paying them something if the games are a part of Premium. And if these games are not sold separately at all, it has to be more than they figured the game would sell separately.

It's a weird situation for sure.

@PuppetMaster I think some Ridge Racer and Tekken games were initially locked behind Premium, but they later started selling them individually. No idea if the Premium requirement was Sony's or Namco's idea, though.

I couldn't care less about trophies, but just let me buy my games. I don't subscribe to PS Plus since I don't play many online games, and locking games behind a subscription won't change that.

@anon_pel222 I agree, but when modern games are increasingly complicated with hundreds of characters and systems... Having a floating horse is honestly a win, it could be so much worse. 😅

Shame that the covers are not available for the original model

@PsBoxSwitchOwner Fair enough, but surely you can understand why people are disappointed in Sony for this when the easier solution would've been to just skip the PSN requirement? Everyone would've been happy, both console gamers and PC gamers.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner Even if some companies already have gathered data from you, it doesn't mean that you want to give it to everyone else. Some accounts are just a necessary evil as it's hard to live without an email account etc.

It also doesn't matter how easy and quick they make the account creation process. The problem isn't that you need to spend three minutes to create an account. The problem is that the account is completely unnecessary especially in single player games.

That's a very reasonable take, I think.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner To be fair, the bitrate on Youtube is so low that the difference in image quality was not particularly noticeable. Especially since they didn't even zoom all the way, but instead opted for relatively small images.

The difference in fluidity between 30fps and 60fps was very obvious, though.

Considering that Sony has seemingly forgotten that PS VR2 exists and gave up on it faster than they did with Vita... wireless version is definitely not happening.

@Max_the_German FSR3 frame generation is only slightly better than the motion smoothing on televisions. Adds latency and has some obvious visual artefacts. In my opinion it should never be used to reach 60fps.

But yes, most people will not notice. They may feel like something is a bit off, and may notice some ghosting, but that's about it.

@CielloArc As Rich Leadbetter explained in this article, it's mostly about CPU. Lowering resolution doesn't have a big effect on CPU. Similarly PSSR will mostly help when GPU is the bottleneck. While more powerful GPU and PSSR will improve the graphics and image quality, they will not necessarily help with framerate.

But this is all speculation at this point. We have no idea how demanding the game is, and how much physics and other simulation stuff it has.

@ButterySmooth30FPS The fear is that Sony will keep this up during next generation as well. If there is no one to compete with them, they will ask for the largest sum that they can get away with. It has happened before.

They don't need competition, but we do.

It's a lot of money, especially considering that the current generation may only last around four years more. PS5 launched in 2020, so it's already almost four years old. Can't see it going much further than 2027-2028.

Step 1: sell your kidneys
Step 2: sell your house
Step 3: take a loan
Step 4: start a savings account
Step 5: pre-order a PS5 Pro
Step 6: you forgot the disc drive...
Step 7: time to sell all of your other property as well

Looks like a PS5. Not much else to say.

Nope, not sold, not getting it. Not now, probably not ever unless they drop the price by 200€ or so.

Just checked and the disc drives are around 130€ here. Yeah, not spending over 900€ on a console, and I'm not giving up my physical PS5 games either.

I'll just vote with my wallet and not get this console. They made a bad call with that pricing, it's absolutely ridiculous.

799€ and not even including a disc drive? Hell no, not getting that.

@rjejr I have no idea what kind of person Chris Deering is, so I certainly have no reason to defend him. Instead I'm criticising the headline and writing of this article for turning a positive quote into something with the intention of enraging people. Gotta get the clicks somehow, huh?

What he essentially said is that if you get unemployed, do not give up. Maybe take a short break and try something different, but keep updated on your own field and keep on trying again. Eventually you will get back into what you love doing. Can't get much more encouraging and constructive than that.

Also, why did you feel it necessary to attack people with the weird assumption that people who are pointing this out "probably have a lot more issues than just defending this"? That's super harsh and offensive.

@get2sammyb I think the message is clearly positive, and while the examples he gave (driving uber or going to beach) aren't particularly good, I don't think most people would find this quote negative unless someone makes it sound negative.

@get2sammyb Yes, but did you actually listen to what the words said? I think @Bez87 summed it up pretty well.