@get2sammyb for the campaigns where you have multiple choices and only need to boot one/some, can you add the game sizes so people know which is the smallest one to download, boot, and delete?
@Clogalis I booted up Death Stranding to the title and immediately quit. So like 30 seconds. That was long enough for it to register in the app (which updated immediately). But last night I was playing Deathloop for an hour or so before the October checkin play any game registered.
So I think it's totally inconsistent how long it takes. Just booting the game should be enough, if it doesn't register in the app after a few hours, try booting it again. No need to actually play a game you don't want to.
@Ralizah I've played Deathloop some now and gyro aiming seems really overhyped. As in, it doesn't do anything. I tried moving the controller around and it doesn't change where the reticle is aimed, only the left stick aims.
@thetraditional you have to guess what game the song title describes. So go west I think is Death Stranding. And more human than human is Detroit Become Human.
Or, just wait until someone figures it all out and posts it online.
@stvevan someone who bought Inscrytion ($20) said they got 214 points for it. Possibly the rate is 1 point for every 10 cents (including tax?), which would mean you'd need to spend $125 to redeem $5 (1250 points).
My thoughts are: I hope the reward rate is better than Sony Rewards had. Judging from the challenges they've got up now, I don't see myself buying or playing any of the crappy games they're trying to promote.
@Dr_Luigi better AI, real time effects, physics, player/enemy count are all due to more ram and processing power. 3D graphics is due to more pixels (which is already a simplified way of saying it).
That leaves online which can't be added again since it's already there and changing the controller. Historically it's really only been Nintendo changing the controller drastically every generation (of the current three). And in my opinion that's actually a negative for Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft's approach of refining an already good design is way better. The fact that Nintendo has to do pro controllers that are just standard controllers is evidence that many people don't like the bonkers controllers.
@Dr_Luigi what do you expect the generation transition should be then? More pixels, ram, processing power, etc. has always been the main difference between generations.
@Kairu I'm guessing not that bad if it's still in pre-production after all these years. People probably aren't really working on it and it's more like every now and then someone pitches "what if the game was like this?" and management replies "no, we don't want to do that".
@Mad001 if you've seriously bought the first one four times, then they probably don't care if you skip the second. They've already made plenty off you.
@PegasusActual93 I don't think reliability is much of a concern, unless it would brick the console when it doesn't work. People use the Vita account switching hack all the time and it takes such a precisely timed input I swear it must have less than 10% success rate.
I would've been day one purchase for sure if it would've been backward compatible. As it is, maybe I'll just skip PSVR2 like the first. Got all these PSVR1 games from PS+ and play at home but no way to play them. PSVR1 doesn't feel like a good investment since it's being replaced nor does PSVR2 since I'd be starting with an empty library.
I wonder when everyone who's so upset with every decision Sony makes and are "definitely leaving" Playstation because of them are finally gonna do it. So tiring to just see the same comments over and over.
Wow, surprising that they're refunding every purchase. No way Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo will do that when their online stores shut down and downloads turned off.
@spcspc yeah this description sounds to me like a replacement for Sony Rewards. Especially because you can no longer earn Sony Rewards through simply buying from the PSN store (without the PS credit card).
@Jeanhenry will it though? When they rewarded cash for trophies in the past, the exchange rate was $1 per platinum. I don't remember what gold and silver were, but that automatically means you would make money from platting a voices or breakthrough game.
Is Push Square going to start doing (resume?) video reviews? I happened to see one for The Council, not sure if there's any other. Personally I like to see gameplay footage showing off the good/bad that a review discusses.
It really doesn't look good. The clickers, the main focus of the game, only got like 3 seconds in the teaser, and just their clicking. There really isn't anything shown here to set it apart from any generic action drama.
If it does well, they'll think people want more of the anime and not the game. If it does bad, they'll think people aren't interested in the IP so won't make any new games.
@AstraeaV even if he has actual technical skills and not just being adept at social engineering (which I'm not sure that'd be benefit to many tech companies), he'd probably still have an uphill battle on getting hired, needing to prove that he won't compromise the security of the firm he's working at. I think he'd be in a much better position to get hired by going through legal channels to report security vulnerabilities without leaking data, such as a bug bounty program, if these companies had them (but again assuming the breaches were due to vulnerabilities in the tech and not social engineering, which companies usually don't accept in their bug bounties).
Cybersecurity is pretty important these days. Companies don't want people who are just gonna leak all their private data. There are certainly instances of big name hackers getting hired, but did those hackers also leak private data?
@FuzzieGinge88 I mean, as long as you can send an email you're clever enough to hack a site. It's just a matter of finding someone gullible enough to give you their password.
It doesn't even make sense to do it for the clout. He'd have to leak anonymously to avoid all the trouble he's in now, so no one would know it was him, so he wouldn't get any clout anyway.
@Tharsman I don't think there's any other publicly released numbers so this all we've got to go by. If anything, I guess the rental subscriptions should pay devs even less because they're only temporary licenses. If you can own something forever* why pay more to rent it for less time?
Since it's available to play for longer though, I wouldn't be surprised if the reality is a lower upfront fee with additional payouts depending on how many people actually play the game. So maybe a smash hit might make more from a rental subscription over an ownership subscription, but I wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority would make less with that route (but there's way more spots available on the rental sub, so again, it's probably worth it to these devs or at least the best deal they can get at the time).
*: In most cases as long as the subscription is active.
Notably we have Rime which Epic paid $45K to give away 2.4M copies, about $0.02 per copy. At a glance it looks like Subnautica was the highest paid per copy, about $0.30 each ($1.4M to give away 4.6M copies).
Judging from this, devs make basically nothing for putting their game on a subscription. What we don't know is how much new releases get paid, since these are probably all older releases, nor do we know how many sales these games were getting at the time. Some of the games on this list I think are still pretty popular, but maybe Super Meat Boy is pulling less than $50K per couple weeks at this point that it was worth it to them.
@jimbouk the garbageware has not been removed. They just changed the sorting from newest release to top selling. There are still legit indie games that get lost under the garbageware.
I'm interested to try gyro aiming now that Deathloop is on extra. It honestly sounds unnecessary, I don't flail around my controller while I play, so will it even have any impact? Guess I'll see.
@Dan_ozzzy189 is it though? My dictionary says to orientate means to orient, and then to orient has an actual definition. It looks to orient is the more popular usage in British English as well.
@BartoxAbrasiveness it's always been about in general, you just change the parameters every time you're proven wrong (and are still wrong based on your own evidence and others who buy PSN credits at discount). My stance has remained the same. It's totally fine that you choose to pay more. Personally, I wait to buy games cheaper so I can play more (like 100+ games per year), would never be able to afford that with the meager savings you're bragging about.
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Re: PS Stars Guide: All Campaigns and Solutions, Digital Collectibles, and FAQs
@get2sammyb for the campaigns where you have multiple choices and only need to boot one/some, can you add the game sizes so people know which is the smallest one to download, boot, and delete?
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man PC Promises PS Studios Bonuses with PSN Connection
@WadeIsInsane of course not. This is PushSquare. Sony sucks. Nintendo, Microsoft, and PC rule and can do no wrong.
Re: PS Stars: How to Solve the Hit Play/1994 Campaign
@Clogalis I booted up Death Stranding to the title and immediately quit. So like 30 seconds. That was long enough for it to register in the app (which updated immediately). But last night I was playing Deathloop for an hour or so before the October checkin play any game registered.
So I think it's totally inconsistent how long it takes. Just booting the game should be enough, if it doesn't register in the app after a few hours, try booting it again. No need to actually play a game you don't want to.
Re: Deathloop May Be Multiformat, But New Controls Make It Best on PS5
@Ralizah I've played Deathloop some now and gyro aiming seems really overhyped. As in, it doesn't do anything. I tried moving the controller around and it doesn't change where the reticle is aimed, only the left stick aims.
Re: PS5, PS4 Loyalty Scheme PS Stars Out Now in North America
@thetraditional you have to guess what game the song title describes. So go west I think is Death Stranding. And more human than human is Detroit Become Human.
Or, just wait until someone figures it all out and posts it online.
Re: Tactics Ogre: Reborn Lists Loads of Gameplay Updates and Improvements on PS5, PS4
@GamingFan4Lyf if people were save scumming to ensure a successful crafting, then it was bad game design that just wasted time.
Re: PS5, PS4 Loyalty Scheme PS Stars Out Now in North America
@stvevan someone who bought Inscrytion ($20) said they got 214 points for it. Possibly the rate is 1 point for every 10 cents (including tax?), which would mean you'd need to spend $125 to redeem $5 (1250 points).
Re: PS5, PS4 Loyalty Scheme PS Stars Out Now in North America
My thoughts are: I hope the reward rate is better than Sony Rewards had. Judging from the challenges they've got up now, I don't see myself buying or playing any of the crappy games they're trying to promote.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Sequel Codenamed Project Orion Announced
Not sure the point of sharing a codename. Is the main character gonna be a belt salesman or something?
Re: Sony Will Continue to Make PS4 Games Moving Forwards
@Dr_Luigi better AI, real time effects, physics, player/enemy count are all due to more ram and processing power. 3D graphics is due to more pixels (which is already a simplified way of saying it).
That leaves online which can't be added again since it's already there and changing the controller. Historically it's really only been Nintendo changing the controller drastically every generation (of the current three). And in my opinion that's actually a negative for Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft's approach of refining an already good design is way better. The fact that Nintendo has to do pro controllers that are just standard controllers is evidence that many people don't like the bonkers controllers.
Re: PlayStation Bigwigs Won't Shut Up About PC, Smartphones
@Golem25 Meanwhile, PlayStation has started releasing games outside its own console and is swimming in 2x gorillion Dollars. :shrug:
Re: Sony Will Continue to Make PS4 Games Moving Forwards
@Dr_Luigi what do you expect the generation transition should be then? More pixels, ram, processing power, etc. has always been the main difference between generations.
Re: Beyond Good & Evil 2 Has Been in Development Longer Than Literally Any Game, Ever
@Kairu I'm guessing not that bad if it's still in pre-production after all these years. People probably aren't really working on it and it's more like every now and then someone pitches "what if the game was like this?" and management replies "no, we don't want to do that".
Re: Sony Will Continue to Make PS4 Games Moving Forwards
Probably the live service games will release on PS4 also to bolster player count.
Re: Native PS5 Version of Sci-Fi RPG The Outer Worlds Rated for Release
@Mad001 if you've seriously bought the first one four times, then they probably don't care if you skip the second. They've already made plenty off you.
Re: Talking Point: We Need to Discuss This Horizon Zero Dawn PS5 Remaster
@Tsushima they already remastered Ghost of Tsushima for PS5 and everybody loved it.
Re: There Could Be Many More PS5, PS4 First-Party Leaks Coming
Supposedly this is the document. There's nothing really noteworthy on there that we don't already know about.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/xurede/the_document_mentioned_by_gematsu_which_leaked/
Re: Modder Claims PS5 Has Been Jailbroken on Old System Software
@PegasusActual93 I don't think reliability is much of a concern, unless it would brick the console when it doesn't work. People use the Vita account switching hack all the time and it takes such a precisely timed input I swear it must have less than 10% success rate.
Re: Sony Producing Two Million PSVR2 Headsets by March 2023
I would've been day one purchase for sure if it would've been backward compatible. As it is, maybe I'll just skip PSVR2 like the first. Got all these PSVR1 games from PS+ and play at home but no way to play them. PSVR1 doesn't feel like a good investment since it's being replaced nor does PSVR2 since I'd be starting with an empty library.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster for PS5 Reportedly in Development
I wonder when everyone who's so upset with every decision Sony makes and are "definitely leaving" Playstation because of them are finally gonna do it. So tiring to just see the same comments over and over.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster for PS5 Reportedly in Development
Hopefully it's a $70 upgrade for people who already own the PS4 version.
Re: PS1's Iconic T-Rex Tech Demo Roars to PS Stars As a Digital Collectible
@Victor_Meldrew it still won't be competent, they'll just cycle you out of the queue faster.
Re: Once Considered a PlayStation Competitor, Google Stadia Is Shutting Down
Wow, surprising that they're refunding every purchase. No way Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo will do that when their online stores shut down and downloads turned off.
Re: Weapons in Dead Island 2 Will Degrade with Use, But Dev Explains 'We’re Generous with It'
I think durability is done well in Fire Emblem, and is a great mechanic there. I've found it annoying in every other game I've played with it.
Re: Interview: Why Asymmetrical Multiplayer Is Perfect for The Texas Chain Saw Massacre
@Ludacritz because there's one killer and multiple victims in those movies. How'd I do?
Re: Sony Posts PlayStation Stars Scheme Overview, Release Dates
@spcspc yeah this description sounds to me like a replacement for Sony Rewards. Especially because you can no longer earn Sony Rewards through simply buying from the PSN store (without the PS credit card).
Re: Sony Posts PlayStation Stars Scheme Overview, Release Dates
@Jeanhenry will it though? When they rewarded cash for trophies in the past, the exchange rate was $1 per platinum. I don't remember what gold and silver were, but that automatically means you would make money from platting a voices or breakthrough game.
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for October 2022 Announced
Dang, I was hoping they'd announce the extra and premium games early again.
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for October 2022 Leaked
I sure hope dealabs is wrong this time.
Re: Soapbox: Ask Push Square's Video Producer Anything
Is Push Square going to start doing (resume?) video reviews? I happened to see one for The Council, not sure if there's any other. Personally I like to see gameplay footage showing off the good/bad that a review discusses.
Re: The Last of Us HBO Teaser Watched 13 Million Times, Trends Worldwide
It really doesn't look good. The clickers, the main focus of the game, only got like 3 seconds in the teaser, and just their clicking. There really isn't anything shown here to set it apart from any generic action drama.
Re: HD-2D Art Style on PS5, PS4 Must Wait as Tactics Ogre Reborn Team Turns It Down
It's the right decision. High quality pixel art looks way better than HD-2D.
Re: Onimusha Finally Returns... As a Netflix Anime
If it does well, they'll think people want more of the anime and not the game. If it does bad, they'll think people aren't interested in the IP so won't make any new games.
Re: 17-Year-Old GTA 6 Hacker Reportedly Arrested in London, UK
@AstraeaV even if he has actual technical skills and not just being adept at social engineering (which I'm not sure that'd be benefit to many tech companies), he'd probably still have an uphill battle on getting hired, needing to prove that he won't compromise the security of the firm he's working at. I think he'd be in a much better position to get hired by going through legal channels to report security vulnerabilities without leaking data, such as a bug bounty program, if these companies had them (but again assuming the breaches were due to vulnerabilities in the tech and not social engineering, which companies usually don't accept in their bug bounties).
Cybersecurity is pretty important these days. Companies don't want people who are just gonna leak all their private data. There are certainly instances of big name hackers getting hired, but did those hackers also leak private data?
Re: Sly Cooper Celebrates 20th Anniversary with Some Sweet Swag
The only swag I'm interested in is Sly 5.
Re: 17-Year-Old GTA 6 Hacker Reportedly Arrested in London, UK
@FuzzieGinge88 I mean, as long as you can send an email you're clever enough to hack a site. It's just a matter of finding someone gullible enough to give you their password.
Re: PS5, PS4 Port of Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth Delayed to December
I was hoping it'd be the PS1 or PSP version so it also comes to Premium, but sounds like it isn't.
Re: Ubisoft Issues Strong Response to Embargo Breaking YouTuber
It doesn't even make sense to do it for the clout. He'd have to leak anonymously to avoid all the trouble he's in now, so no one would know it was him, so he wouldn't get any clout anyway.
Re: Embracer CEO Doesn't Expect a Great Return on Investment from Saints Row
@Finozzi1696 believe it or not, there's a lot of people who aren't white males. It's perfectly fine to have non-white-male characters in video games.
Re: Stroke the Dog and Now Cat 2,000 Times for 71 PS5, PS4 Trophies
It's Stroke the Hedgehog before porcupine (and still hamster at some point).
Re: Embracer CEO Doesn't Expect a Great Return on Investment from Saints Row
@Vomit God of War wasn't a reboot though, it's a sequel.
Re: Sony Reiterates Stance on PS Plus Day One Releases, Believes in Premium Launches
@Tharsman I don't think there's any other publicly released numbers so this all we've got to go by. If anything, I guess the rental subscriptions should pay devs even less because they're only temporary licenses. If you can own something forever* why pay more to rent it for less time?
Since it's available to play for longer though, I wouldn't be surprised if the reality is a lower upfront fee with additional payouts depending on how many people actually play the game. So maybe a smash hit might make more from a rental subscription over an ownership subscription, but I wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority would make less with that route (but there's way more spots available on the rental sub, so again, it's probably worth it to these devs or at least the best deal they can get at the time).
*: In most cases as long as the subscription is active.
Re: FIFA 23 Ropes in Ted Lasso, AFC Richmond for PS5, PS4 Soccer Sim
A clearly real response from Brett Goldstein and some cookie cutter PR response from representatives of Jason Sudeikis it looks like.
Re: Sony Reiterates Stance on PS Plus Day One Releases, Believes in Premium Launches
@Akila_24 Probably the closest we have for numbers is what Epic paid to give away free games. https://mobile.twitter.com/simoncarless/status/1389297530341519362/photo/1
Notably we have Rime which Epic paid $45K to give away 2.4M copies, about $0.02 per copy. At a glance it looks like Subnautica was the highest paid per copy, about $0.30 each ($1.4M to give away 4.6M copies).
Judging from this, devs make basically nothing for putting their game on a subscription. What we don't know is how much new releases get paid, since these are probably all older releases, nor do we know how many sales these games were getting at the time. Some of the games on this list I think are still pretty popular, but maybe Super Meat Boy is pulling less than $50K per couple weeks at this point that it was worth it to them.
Re: PlayStation Boss Jim Ryan Demanded Firm Reinvigorate Interest in Indies
@jimbouk the garbageware has not been removed. They just changed the sorting from newest release to top selling. There are still legit indie games that get lost under the garbageware.
Re: PlayStation Boss Jim Ryan Demanded Firm Reinvigorate Interest in Indies
@xDD90x there's a difference between respecting other's opinions and tolerating hate.
Re: Deathloop May Be Multiformat, But New Controls Make It Best on PS5
I'm interested to try gyro aiming now that Deathloop is on extra. It honestly sounds unnecessary, I don't flail around my controller while I play, so will it even have any impact? Guess I'll see.
Re: Deathloop May Be Multiformat, But New Controls Make It Best on PS5
@Dan_ozzzy189 is it though? My dictionary says to orientate means to orient, and then to orient has an actual definition. It looks to orient is the more popular usage in British English as well.
Re: PlayStation Boss Jim Ryan Demanded Firm Reinvigorate Interest in Indies
So you're saying Jim Ryan is to blame for there being no AAA PS5 games and the store being overrun by indie jumping turd games. /s
Re: Rumour: PS5 Redesign to Feature Detachable Disc Drive
@BartoxAbrasiveness it's always been about in general, you just change the parameters every time you're proven wrong (and are still wrong based on your own evidence and others who buy PSN credits at discount). My stance has remained the same. It's totally fine that you choose to pay more. Personally, I wait to buy games cheaper so I can play more (like 100+ games per year), would never be able to afford that with the meager savings you're bragging about.