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@skaarj217 no. The closest you can get is if you have PS+ Extra (e.g. free trial) you can download Miles Morales at no extra cost in order to buy Spider Man Remastered.

For me personally, based on what I already own this isn't that good a month for Extra (many of these games are objectively good though). However, Essential's games are so good this month that doesn't even matter. I love Yakuza Like A Dragon.

Hopefully if you watch it on PS4 it only allows showing the English lip sync even when watching the Japanese dub.

@RedRiot193 man, you couldn't be more wrong. Well, except for your first actual sentence which agrees with what I've been saying--once the 1.0 version is done, there's still more that can be worked on. But beyond that, it's such a naive and entitled opinion to think that devs are out to get you and that DLC is just content that's been cut from the game. That's simply not true.

You really don't need to belittle the artists, programmers, writers (actors? Is the DLC voiced?) who worked on this stuff. There absolutely is effort on their part to put all those stuff together. Once again you're just coming across as someone who is anti-DLC, in a well managed project they have an idea of how long things will take to make, that's how they're able to know what they can make and when. Boo hoo that you want all the DLC on day one as part of the base game for free, that's just not how things work, effort goes into making that extra stuff, and it's extra stuff optional to the base game, so you gotta pay for it. It's been that way ever since DLC was called expansion packs.

Next you go into how you also don't understand how program management works. What makes you think there's plenty of other stuff to work on? If there's stuff that's already being worked on by other studios, it's often not effective to simply throw more people at it. You have to factor in the cost of ramping people on the project and whether tasks can actually be parallelized beyond what is currently (and whether that would actually be faster than the current people who already familiar with it). So that leaves something new to work on, but just because they're going to make another game doesn't mean it's immediately in a state that everyone can start working on it. You can't very well start programming battle systems if the design for what it's going to be like is there. So why isn't the next game already designed out? Oh yeah, they were still working on the previous game so haven't gotten to it yet. So that leaves bug fixes and improvements to the game they just finished as the only cost effective placement. What you're actually getting at once again is that you're anti-DLC and you just don't want them to improve games beyond the 1.0 version. You would do well to do some of that basic research into how game development works, as you're showing a lot of arrogance but a complete lack of basic understanding of how it, and software development in general, works, especially at big companies.

I don't have anything against EA. I know you hate them though because they do DLC and you adamantly hate DLC and don't understand that it's not just a push of a button that magically makes all the DLC. I bet EA's DLC keeps a lot of people employed though.

Tl;Dr- DLC is a well established practice that devs plan for. Sorry you hate it and don't like paying for it. So just don't buy them then, you still get a full game.

@MetalGear_Yoshi is it though? Regions without streaming are extremely cheap, like their top tiers are almost cheaper than our bottom tier. In Korea Extra costs about $57.75 USD for a year and Deluxe is $66.40 USD for a year. An extra $8.65 for like 100 extra downloadable games seems like a pretty decent deal. Or you can think about as an extra $6.40 for Deluxe compared to getting Essential in the US is a steal.

@RedRiot193 ok, so you just don't know how game development works. See, when a game is finished there is some time before it gets released, could be several weeks, could be several months. This is because the game needs to be certified for the platform, discs printed, maybe the publisher just wants to release the game at a certain time, etc.

So either the employees could sit around and do nothing in those weeks between the game being finished and release (because often there is not yet another game to work on) or they could continue to work on something, e.g. bug fixes and updates to the game. This is also why there are day one patches, it's not the devs trying to screw over people with the disc version who play offline, it's that it's quicker to release a patch than a full game. They might not need everyone to work on bug fixes all the time so can get started on planned DLC, so sometimes there's enough time to release that DLC on the same date as the game itself.

This practice keeps the individual devs employed during this down time. Not that complicated.

Hopefully it's an RPG but it'll probably be a battle royale.

@RedRiot193 ok, if you don't want them to work on the game during that time, what do you propose devs do instead? Sorry you don't like DLC, but some people like adding to their game. Personally I wait for complete editions (unless the DLC is totally pointless).

@TechaNinja the terms of service for these Killzone games even said they'd try to give 90 days notice too. To be fair, it also said the announcement would be made on a website that no longer exists, so maybe they did give the longer notice, just nobody could access the site to see it.

@ChrisDeku good point, that's probably just an assumption Push Square is making. PSN blog doesn't say it includes PS+ downloads. For comparison, we know Oddworld Soulstorm had 4 million downloads, but it's nowhere to be found on the April 2021 chart (because outside of plus, it just didn't sell well).

@Ichiban the real question: would Stray have topped the charts if it wasn't about a cat and you played as something else instead?

@art_of_the_kill I can't wait for day and date to happen so that everyone who complains there's no reason to own a console can just sell their consoles and buy a PC. Then they can leave Push Square for Push Space Bar (or whatever they end up calling it) and we won't have to deal with their complaining anymore.

Knew people would complain about the existence of day one DLC. Not sure why people think devs should just stop working on anything and twiddle their thumbs in the weeks between a game being finished and it releasing.

@GreatAuk it's like how FF7's Barrett is actually a white guy, right? There's no dialog specifically calling him black so you can't just assume he's black. /s

@PhhhCough in addition to what Liam said, there's some PS4 games that are only on Premium and not Extra, like Uncharted collection, Mafia 1 & 2, Lego Harry Potter. There's like 100 extra downloadable games on Premium.

Everspace is already on Extra in US. But not the DLC if that's what they're adding (I don't see a galactic edition, but do see a stellar edition).

I wish we knew whether PS5 was actually popular or people are just being forced to buy one with their purchase of Horizon Forbidden West.

@Mezzer exactly, games are meant to be fun. I don't think it would be any fun to play a game where the main character is a racist (and the game isn't about them learning the errors of their ways). Thankfully I'm not aware of any games like that. So I don't see why it should be so controversial to be respectful of others. Being a decent human being has nothing to do with politics.

@ROBLIVION you'd rather the game be as racist, sexist, and discriminatory as possible?

@Happymoogle oh, are they finally gonna release Pokemon on playstation? If not then we gotta settle for games like this.

Too much controversy on running in GTA apparently. They should just sell running as a microtransaction so everyone can play how they want.

@Athrum it's a new nickelodeon game based on Are You Afraid of the Dark.

@uptownsoul yeah, but talking about other bundles doesn't let people deride Horizon's success.

@ShogunRok sure, why not? He found a tweet that he liked and he wanted to share it out with his followers. Who cares if it's old. You see it all the time on forums, people reply to years old threads.

He probably deleted the retweet because people started assuming things and writing articles like this one. The man's allowed to just use Twitter normally too.

Was looking great until it said co-op.

@Ps1toPSPlus all of these games have like 6 to 10+ trophy stacks for different consoles and regions. It's pretty rare for Xbox games to have multiple stacks, so this problem is much worse on PS.

All the positive responses here makes me think people will pretty quickly not care how much of Ubisoft ends up owned by Tencent, given that SNK is owned by that Saudi prince.

@TommyNL except just ignoring them hurts legitimate indie devs too. When you scroll through the games list it can be difficult to tell from just the icons, so you err on the side of it being garbageware or even you just accidentally scroll past the real games because they're completely surrounded by garbage. And so that legit indie dev has lost a potential sale.

@RoomWithaMoose it's problematic because this practice wouldn't be acceptable for real games, so why is it ok for small "devs"? Suppose Uncharted came out. Then next week was Runcharted which is exactly the same game but Drake's in a red shirt. Then next week was Buncharted, now with a blue shirt. Then next week was Puncharted, showing off his pink shirt. These aren't cosmetic DLCs or game updates, by the way, every one would be a separate full price game.

Some of the upcoming games from this developer:

Press square for trophies
Press triangle for trophies
Press L3 for trophies
Press R1 for trophies

Cross play yet?

@gamiller1978 the ability to sell digital games and other items can be solved without Blockchain, though (assuming you trust Sony or whichever digital storefront you're using), so digital game licenses don't need to be converted to NFTs.

There doesn't need to be and probably shouldn't be a public ledger revealing every game everybody owns. Considering Sony has specific privacy options in place to hide your game activity/trophies, forcing it to be public that you own Barbie Puppy Rescue kinda undoes all those privacy options.

Also, I'm not sure if there's any Blockchain technology that's improved on this yet, but since every transaction needs to be verified on the public ledger, it's by definition going to be slower than a conventional database. I don't know about you, but I don't want to wait 5 days for my digital game purchase to complete. Not to mention the destruction to the environment due to all the electricity required to maintain the ledger (I honestly don't know if it's as bad for NFTs as conventional cryptocurrencies).

This is just a few reasons why NFTs are bad, with a focus on why they probably don't work for digital games, which admittedly is a lot more compelling than an NFT of a jpg everyone has access to for free. I'm sure there are many more reasons.

@JudgeDredd impossible to say at this point as we don't know how much of the company Tencent is buying. At the very least this should result with them having as much power as the Guillemot's currently have. Technically unless they can secure more than 50% of the shares (maybe more depending on the company's bylaws?), they can't just overrule other shareholders, but if enough shareholders align with Tencent or simply don't cast votes, then it's most likely gonna be Tencent gets whatever it wants.

Interesting how the Guillemot's vehemently fought against a Vivendi takeover but are apparently welcoming a Tencent one. Guess the money is just way more this time around.

@frankmcma Part II was on PS Now I think around 18 months after release. So Part I may be similar, or maybe 1 year, as I can see it being a game they want to add for an October update (Part II was also an October Now update).

This is exactly what cosmetic DLC should be, to be honest. Crazy fun stuff.

Not worth $70. I wouldn't pay a dime less than $80 for this.

@Nightcrawler71 PSPrices sorts based on when the discount was applied, so everything listed first over there are the newly added ones.

Unfortunately the official PS Store is probably the worst PS storefront and all the third party ones have better functionality.

@Fight_Teza_Fight so it depends where it happened--I don't know about Canada's privacy laws. In some places you don't have a right to privacy in public places so people can take your pictures or pictures of your things. In some places that in itself illegal. Either way, many companies warn against or don't allow their employees to work in public places so this sort of thing doesn't happen.

Had the initial photo taker written an article reporting on the photos, that might be fair use (assuming the act of taking the photos in the first place was legal). Simply sharing the photos is likely not fair use (as it's simply the copyrighted work and not fairly used within something larger), however an actual journalist picking up those leaked photos and then reporting on them could be* fair use.

*: It depends how the material is used and could be different on a case by case basis.

Sounds like they've seen my comments about doing a The Sims: Marvel Edition.

@Fight_Teza_Fight sounds like that Shadow of the Tomb Raider leak probably falls under theft. Is that how the leak happened, someone stole that person's laptop?

@Fight_Teza_Fight reporting on copyrighted material, even including portions in the report, is perfectly fine per fair use. Performing the entirety of a script obviously fails the fair use test. It's too much of the copyrighted work and likely too close to the nature of the copyrighted work to count as fair use.

Looks like the kind of game I'd play on PS+, but not the kind I'd pay for.

@nessisonett I'm sure there were red flags once you got into the meat of the scam. It can only really work if the payment is irreversible, so the scammers probably asked for something like bitcoin or gift cards.

Here's your digital only future. The man is just gonna turn off their services, effectively bricking your console.

@Breekhead unfortunately people do buy them because they award a platinum trophy in a minute. So each one gets hundreds of sales. Let's say 300 sales, suppose they release 200 "games" (individual trophy stacks) per year at $1.50 each, and they're making $90K a year (well before Sony's cut, taxes, etc).

The Show was ported to Xbox, it was only a matter of time before they started porting Sony's other games.

Dude, it's a freakin' mythic skin! That's easily worth $45 per match that you use it.

I don't know who Ray is, but his arcade chronology sounds extreme with a z.