@BartoxAbrasiveness it's not though. Waiting and renting are both better ways to save way more money. You can try to change the parameters all you like to justify your purchases, in the end you're paying more for physical in order to play at launch. Of you want, using your own words "anyone seeing that and still choosing [to pay more] is ****ing crazy."
@BartoxAbrasiveness I like whatever is cheaper, which in most cases is digital because I don't buy games at launch since I already have plenty. People who refuse to buy digital will miss out on a lot of great deals. I actually checked a bunch of random PS4 games just now, and the only one I found with a historically lowest price (USD) for physical (ignoring any rental prices) was actually Cyberpunk.
@BartoxTharglod what meltdown? If anyone's had a meltdown here, that'd be you (did you ever block that guy?). You claimed physical was always cheaper than digital, multiple people have shown that's not the case. You've just picked and choosed what counts as access to a game to suit your argument when challenged, ultimately walking back your statement to include only new releases (which even that you've disproven yourself).
@BartoxTharglod the rental comments go back to @UltimateOtaku91's post, one of the very few people supporting your stance that physical is always cheaper, where he mentioned rentals saving him lots of money. Nobody jumped on him saying renting is bad, so it must be accepted. But by disregarding that very valid way to play games cheaper, you're hurting your own position as well.
Specifically for criminals, I'd say physical is markedly worse than digital. The benefit to physical would be playing online games without risking your jailbroken console getting banned. But the risk of retaliation from law enforcement is so much higher. If you have to steal your games, digital only is probably much safer, if you don't connect your console to online.
@BartoxTharglod that's nonsense that you're allowed to consider physical rentals as a benefit for physical, but for some reason digital rentals aren't a benefit for digital.
@BartoxTharglod Demon's Souls is $0 digital (or a fraction of a cent if you want to include all Extra games in the sub price). In the US, Rift Apart's lowest ever digital price is less than the lowest ever physical price (by 10 cents). Besides, there's only so many AAA games, so many more will be those niche games.
@BartoxTharglod most physical games either go up in price or stay high far longer than digital. Cyberpunk is a unique exception because of how disastrous it was that was delisted digitally.
For example Senran Kagura Peach Beach Splash physical is double the price of digital, even without sales.
@BartoxTharglod I save way more than 30% by buying digital, just waiting a while after release. Average about 75%-90% off.
Plus get to play on multiple consoles at once without buying multiple copies. So many advantages to digital over physical, as long as you don't want to sell the game.
@themightyant Correction: RDR2 has not been on there for 15 months. It was on Now from July 2021 to November 2021, and then on Extra from June 2022 to September 2022. So about 9 months.
@Fight_Teza_Fight you seem to be confused thinking this might even resemble a game. It's just going to be a static picture of the dog from the thumbnail while you press cross 2000 times.
This is the same "dev" behind Push Cross For Trophies. Sony wouldn't let them release that "game" so now they're releasing this garbageware. Cat and hamster re-skins are next.
I was afraid this was going to happen. I don't think I'll get PSVR2 now. It's just not worth it to me if it can't play any PSVR1 games because there simply aren't that many VR games to begin with.
I'm not surprised the combat is awful. I've been done with Star Ocean since 4 or 5. Can't remember which, the one where every other blow launches the enemy a mile into the air, totally disrupting the flow.
@Doctor-Moo he must've been mimicking Toriyama's style since it's dragon quest. Look at characters at like 1:25 and 1:40, they look like Toriyama designs.
What, it's gonna be a step backwards back to being a beat em up!? Didn't they announce a while back that the Like A Dragon games would be RPG's and Judge Eyes would be beat em ups?
Ah, they're randomized, maybe that's why the expedition I did yesterday was so unbalanced. The midbosses were insane bullet sponges, absorbing blow after blow to the head without flinching, then came the actual boss who dropped like a fly. We'll see how the other expedition goes today.
@BeerIsAwesome well, if Sony or anybody else doesn't buy Level-5, we can kiss goodbye getting any of their games released in the west (and we have been, they don't localize anything new since Ni no Kuni 2). Which will be a shame because they're a great developer.
The synopsis had me thinking more along the lines of Fantasy Life. After watching the trailer, I'm sure this'll be good, but my main takeaway is hoping Sony buys Level-5 and is able to get Fantasy Life ported to PS 😆 (not sure if licensing might lock it to Nintendo).
Snitch's actual phrasing made it seem like the games are bad simply because they're Japanese, so excuse me if I'm not going to put much stock into his warning. He used a racial slur when referring to them, so it's pretty clear he's biased against Japanese games.
That's just a generic office. It actually doesn't look like The Office, for example the office across from the conference room is missing and there should be an open space behind the reception desk.
If it was the storefront's mistake, then how come their own Livestream was AO? I think the "mistake" was the stores displaying the actual current rating instead of trusting Ubisoft that they'll definitely resubmit for a lower rating.
These live streams are for the gaming journalists, not gamers. It's then their job to index out the content into individual articles/videos so gamers can then take a look at just what they're interested in.
I think there's little chance it's a mistake. Rating pending is common, so if it wasn't rated yet they'd use that. If it ends up releasing with a different rating, that'll probably be because they edited the game and resubmitted to try to get a lower rating, not because this AO rating was mistakenly put up.
I thought infinity was going to be a present -day hub where you can choose which past time to play, so basically they're stopping the boring present day stuff in the actual games. If it's just a launcher, then what's the point? I already have a perfectly capable launcher called my PS5's home screen.
Round8: amazing voicework. Lies of P is gonna be so good! 🤩 People online: lol what are these voices? So dumb. Round8: uhh... Those are just... Uhh... Placeholders. Yeah that's right, it's not final, we're gonna re-do all our hard work. 😭
I didn't know this was a mobile port. Not surprising it's so bad then. The standards for mobile games just aren't there compared to what's expected for a console game.
It's a step in the right direction, but this only applies to a single trophy list. I want to default to always showing all hidden trophies on all games.
@Shepherd_Tallon did it say what the actual numbers are? I'm wondering if it's propaganda and the cost difference is actually insignificant like a fraction of a cent vs a cent.
@Chaotic_Goat that's because they're for your download list, which actually serves a purpose unlike being on the home screen for already downloaded games.
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Re: Rumour: PS5 Redesign to Feature Detachable Disc Drive
@BartoxAbrasiveness it's not though. Waiting and renting are both better ways to save way more money. You can try to change the parameters all you like to justify your purchases, in the end you're paying more for physical in order to play at launch. Of you want, using your own words "anyone seeing that and still choosing [to pay more] is ****ing crazy."
Re: Rumour: PS5 Redesign to Feature Detachable Disc Drive
@BartoxAbrasiveness I like whatever is cheaper, which in most cases is digital because I don't buy games at launch since I already have plenty. People who refuse to buy digital will miss out on a lot of great deals. I actually checked a bunch of random PS4 games just now, and the only one I found with a historically lowest price (USD) for physical (ignoring any rental prices) was actually Cyberpunk.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Redesign to Feature Detachable Disc Drive
@BartoxTharglod what meltdown? If anyone's had a meltdown here, that'd be you (did you ever block that guy?). You claimed physical was always cheaper than digital, multiple people have shown that's not the case. You've just picked and choosed what counts as access to a game to suit your argument when challenged, ultimately walking back your statement to include only new releases (which even that you've disproven yourself).
Re: Rumour: PS5 Redesign to Feature Detachable Disc Drive
@BartoxTharglod the rental comments go back to @UltimateOtaku91's post, one of the very few people supporting your stance that physical is always cheaper, where he mentioned rentals saving him lots of money. Nobody jumped on him saying renting is bad, so it must be accepted. But by disregarding that very valid way to play games cheaper, you're hurting your own position as well.
Specifically for criminals, I'd say physical is markedly worse than digital. The benefit to physical would be playing online games without risking your jailbroken console getting banned. But the risk of retaliation from law enforcement is so much higher. If you have to steal your games, digital only is probably much safer, if you don't connect your console to online.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Redesign to Feature Detachable Disc Drive
@BartoxTharglod that's nonsense that you're allowed to consider physical rentals as a benefit for physical, but for some reason digital rentals aren't a benefit for digital.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Redesign to Feature Detachable Disc Drive
@LN78 what's the price charting website? The one that only tracks physical sales that Push Square reports on?
Re: Rumour: PS5 Redesign to Feature Detachable Disc Drive
@BartoxTharglod Demon's Souls is $0 digital (or a fraction of a cent if you want to include all Extra games in the sub price). In the US, Rift Apart's lowest ever digital price is less than the lowest ever physical price (by 10 cents). Besides, there's only so many AAA games, so many more will be those niche games.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Redesign to Feature Detachable Disc Drive
@BartoxTharglod most physical games either go up in price or stay high far longer than digital. Cyberpunk is a unique exception because of how disastrous it was that was delisted digitally.
For example Senran Kagura Peach Beach Splash physical is double the price of digital, even without sales.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Redesign to Feature Detachable Disc Drive
@BartoxTharglod I save way more than 30% by buying digital, just waiting a while after release. Average about 75%-90% off.
Plus get to play on multiple consoles at once without buying multiple copies. So many advantages to digital over physical, as long as you don't want to sell the game.
Re: 17 New PS5, PS4 Games Join PS Plus Extra, Premium Tomorrow
@Jackpaza0508 the PSN blog says it's the PSP version, so you can download it.
Re: The Yakuza Name Is No More in the West, and RGG Studio Explains Why
I hope Like A Dragon 8's full name is Like A Dragon 8: Like A Dragon 2.
Re: Reminder: Red Dead Redemption 2 Is Removed From PS Plus Extra Tomorrow
@themightyant Correction: RDR2 has not been on there for 15 months. It was on Now from July 2021 to November 2021, and then on Extra from June 2022 to September 2022. So about 9 months.
Re: Rumour: Massive GTA 6 Leak Posts 90 Videos Online
@darkswabber not in this case. It was a hacker that broke into their systems and stole all this stuff. This guy also hacked uber recently.
Re: Stroke the Dog 2,000 Times for 71 PS5, PS4 Trophies
@Fight_Teza_Fight Nier Automata is an actual game with real gameplay mechanics. So yes, it's ok that it's allowed to release on PSN.
Re: Stroke the Dog 2,000 Times for 71 PS5, PS4 Trophies
@Fight_Teza_Fight you seem to be confused thinking this might even resemble a game. It's just going to be a static picture of the dog from the thumbnail while you press cross 2000 times.
Re: Stroke the Dog 2,000 Times for 71 PS5, PS4 Trophies
This is the same "dev" behind Push Cross For Trophies. Sony wouldn't let them release that "game" so now they're releasing this garbageware. Cat and hamster re-skins are next.
Re: PS5, PS4 Action RPG Samurai Maiden Gets Fun Fake History Trailer, December Release Date
The game looks amazing! I'm always down for a historically accurate adventure through feudal Japan.
Re: PSVR2 Isn't Backwards Compatible with PSVR Games, Sony Confirms
I was afraid this was going to happen. I don't think I'll get PSVR2 now. It's just not worth it to me if it can't play any PSVR1 games because there simply aren't that many VR games to begin with.
Re: Hands On: Star Ocean: The Divine Force Needs Work, Serious Work
I'm not surprised the combat is awful. I've been done with Star Ocean since 4 or 5. Can't remember which, the one where every other blow launches the enemy a mile into the air, totally disrupting the flow.
Re: Like a Dragon Dev RGG Studio Considering a Move to Unreal Engine 5
Foreshadowing Microsoft buying Sega since he didn't mention PlayStation as one of the platforms they release on?
Re: Awkwardly Named Action RPG Infinity Strash: Dragon Quest Travels West on PS5, PS4
@Doctor-Moo he must've been mimicking Toriyama's style since it's dragon quest. Look at characters at like 1:25 and 1:40, they look like Toriyama designs.
Re: Awkwardly Named Action RPG Infinity Strash: Dragon Quest Travels West on PS5, PS4
Is that not Toriyama's designs? Is it one of his assistants then? At the very least it's someone mimicking his style.
Re: Like a Dragon Gaiden Is a Smaller Action Game Starring Kiryu in 2023
What, it's gonna be a step backwards back to being a beat em up!? Didn't they announce a while back that the Like A Dragon games would be RPG's and Judge Eyes would be beat em ups?
Re: SEGA Is Dropping the 'Yakuza' Name from Now On
I hope it's retroactive for re-releases too. I wanna play Like A Dragon: Like A Dragon Remastered.
Re: Return to Ruined Pittsburgh in Fallout 76's Latest Free Update, Available Now
Ah, they're randomized, maybe that's why the expedition I did yesterday was so unbalanced. The midbosses were insane bullet sponges, absorbing blow after blow to the head without flinching, then came the actual boss who dropped like a fly. We'll see how the other expedition goes today.
Re: Poll: Was Sony's Latest State of Play a Show to Remember?
So it seems that racist snitch leaker was wrong about the quality of the stream after all.
Re: Square Enix RPG Various Daylife Heading to PS4 Very Soon
@BeerIsAwesome well, if Sony or anybody else doesn't buy Level-5, we can kiss goodbye getting any of their games released in the west (and we have been, they don't localize anything new since Ni no Kuni 2). Which will be a shame because they're a great developer.
Re: Judgment, Lost Judgment Rated for PC, Could Be a Good Sign for Series' Future
Finally! Can't wait to play as a naked Takuya Kimura thanks to mods!
Re: Square Enix RPG Various Daylife Heading to PS4 Very Soon
The synopsis had me thinking more along the lines of Fantasy Life. After watching the trailer, I'm sure this'll be good, but my main takeaway is hoping Sony buys Level-5 and is able to get Fantasy Life ported to PS 😆 (not sure if licensing might lock it to Nintendo).
Re: Rumour: Lower Your Expectations for Tonight's State of Play
Snitch's actual phrasing made it seem like the games are bad simply because they're Japanese, so excuse me if I'm not going to put much stock into his warning. He used a racial slur when referring to them, so it's pretty clear he's biased against Japanese games.
Re: Octopath Traveler 2 Revealed for PS5, PS4, Out February 2023
@Crayven might come later on, especially if it sells well? Like how Nexomon 2 was released on PS4 and Nexomon 1 came later on PS5.
Re: What Time Is the Next State of Play Livestream?
@dschons I'm not sure you can trust him on this. Seems like he doesn't like the games simply because they're Japanese.
Re: Forspoken Will Reportedly Take 30-40 Hours to Beat, According to Co-Director
I heard it'll take 1000 hours to beat the main campaign (if you idle for 960 hours).
Re: The Last of Us: Part I References The Office's Scranton Branch in Suitably Apocalyptic Fashion
That's just a generic office. It actually doesn't look like The Office, for example the office across from the conference room is missing and there should be an open space behind the reception desk.
Re: Time Traveling JRPG Loop8: Summer of Gods Announced for Western Release
Hope there's a run button. That is some slow walking.
Re: PS5, PSVR2 to Feature in Sony State of Play Livestream Tomorrow
Hopefully there'll finally be an update on Showa American Story. They did say there'd be so e updates from devs around the world, after all.
Re: Assassin's Creed Mirage Is Not Adults Only, Ubisoft Confirms No Real Gambling
If it was the storefront's mistake, then how come their own Livestream was AO? I think the "mistake" was the stores displaying the actual current rating instead of trusting Ubisoft that they'll definitely resubmit for a lower rating.
Re: Reaction: Publishers Are Getting Worse at Nintendo Direct-Style Livestreams
These live streams are for the gaming journalists, not gamers. It's then their job to index out the content into individual articles/videos so gamers can then take a look at just what they're interested in.
Re: Assassin's Creed Mirage May Be Rated Adults Only Due to Real Gambling
I think there's little chance it's a mistake. Rating pending is common, so if it wasn't rated yet they'd use that. If it ends up releasing with a different rating, that'll probably be because they edited the game and resubmitted to try to get a lower rating, not because this AO rating was mistakenly put up.
Re: Assassin's Creed Mirage Sneaks to PS5, PS4 in 2023, Priced at $50
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/assassins-creed-mirage/9n4096hx1wwq
Woah, Mirage is rated AO! Think it'll be like Cero-Z games and you have to have a credit card on your account to even buy it?
It includes real gambling, some people are thinking online that might be how they're rating NFTs since you can "cash out" those.
Re: Assassin's Creed Finally Goes to Japan as Ubisoft Takes on Ghost of Tsushima
I thought infinity was going to be a present -day hub where you can choose which past time to play, so basically they're stopping the boring present day stuff in the actual games. If it's just a launcher, then what's the point? I already have a perfectly capable launcher called my PS5's home screen.
Re: Assassin's Creed Arrives in Ancient China, But on Smartphones Only
Must be, right? It's not like Chinese history is interesting or anything /s.
Re: Assassin's Creed Mirage Sneaks to PS5, PS4 in 2023, Priced at $50
$50 for a glorified DLC? No thanks! I'll just wait until it's free on Ubisoft+ Classics.
Re: Lies of P's Amusing Placeholder Voice Acting Goes Viral
Round8: amazing voicework. Lies of P is gonna be so good! 🤩
People online: lol what are these voices? So dumb.
Round8: uhh... Those are just... Uhh... Placeholders. Yeah that's right, it's not final, we're gonna re-do all our hard work. 😭
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give The Last of Us: Part I?
For everyone lowering the score because of the price, do you also increase the score of crappy games just because you get it cheap?
Re: Mini Review: LEGO Brawls (PS5) - An Embarrassing Multiplayer Outing for LEGO
I didn't know this was a mobile port. Not surprising it's so bad then. The standards for mobile games just aren't there compared to what's expected for a console game.
Re: Reveal All Hidden Trophies at Once with New PS5 Update
It's a step in the right direction, but this only applies to a single trophy list. I want to default to always showing all hidden trophies on all games.
Re: Lighter, More Energy Efficient PS5 Has Revamped Gubbins
How have shipping costs been affected in this economy? If it's cheaper to build but more to ship it might even out to the same profit margin.
Re: Lighter, More Energy Efficient PS5 Has Revamped Gubbins
@Shepherd_Tallon did it say what the actual numbers are? I'm wondering if it's propaganda and the cost difference is actually insignificant like a fraction of a cent vs a cent.
Re: Latest PS5 Firmware Available Now, Adds Folders, 1440p Support, Much More
@Chaotic_Goat that's because they're for your download list, which actually serves a purpose unlike being on the home screen for already downloaded games.