Extra is a bunch of baby games, Ubisoft's least popular franchises, games that were already on Essential, and a couple niche games. Premium on the other hand is a bunch of games from Sony's best franchise. Yeah, it's obvious Premium wins out this month.
There's more to the matter, including a lot of nuances, but we will move on in the interest of brevity
I wish you wouldn't have because Kurvitz's statement reads as total nonsense. How in the world does a minority shareholder get a company to buy and then hand them over free shares?
Edit: they don't go into any more detail on the medium article. So they're just making an outlandish nonsensical "I don't like what you did so you must've cheated!" statement without backing it up on any way. Not a great look for them...
Edit2: and it looks like most of the claims from the company have been independently verified by Gameindustry.biz. Yeah, with what's out there currently, doesn't look good for Kurvitz and the others claims.
@OrtadragoonX sounds like you can't play regular games online then either. The input latency will be too much. It's the same thing, the input needs to go from your console to the server/P2P console running the game.
@Grumblevolcano people honestly make streaming into a bigger deal than it is. You don't really need that good of internet either. If you can stream Netflix in hd you can probably stream games (PS3 games are 720p, I think some may be even less). Input latency will be similar to playing any online game.
@Haruki_NLI if you just make stuff up you can make anything sound bad. These Ratchet and Clank games were not on PS Now.
The extra tier on the other hand this month does include games that were previously on essential. That tier is the one giving you stuff that you already have.
This month's premium is way better than extra, you guys just don't know good games. Sucks about deluxe though, but most regions with that tier are even cheaper than extra (in regions with premium) so they're already getting a better value.
@MattT3142 it's very common for boardgames to be kickstarted first because they're extremely niche. The manufacturer needs to know there's actually demand for it and they're not just throwing their money away to make it.
I was reading elsewhere that Atomic Heart started off as just fake trailers then they hired a dev team to make the trailers into reality. Also the CEO has said things like the game exists to tell a story and the gameplay is irrelevant, so there's that...
@Tecinthebrain more like I don't care what is or isn't on PC, so much so that I don't even register it as comparable to playing on a console. Gaming on console, sitting on a comfy couch in front of a giant TV, is and always has been an infinitely better gaming experience than PC. Everything just works, no need to worry about not being able to run the game because your machine is a couple years old.
@SoulChimera you're right, and it turns out this info is on the PS Blog, so not sure why Push Square isn't reporting it. Ratchet and Clank will be for everyone to celebrate the 20th anniversary. The PS3 one is only for people who have specific PS3 models.
@carlos82 it's more crazy that most devs for some reason think someone would switch from playing a game on their PS4 to PS5, but never ever the other way around. It just doesn't make sense to have one-way only save transfers like that.
@carlos82 I play PS4 versions instead of the PS5 one all the time. It's the only way to get the PS4 version's trophies. Unfortunately many games will autopop the PS5 trophies if you've played the PS4 version, but not the other way around, so you need to play the worse version in order to double rip most efficiently. I think Genshin Impact is the only game I have where you can autopop the PS4 trophies from the PS5 version.
@BeerIsAwesome I agree there's probably a technical reason for removing Plus for online. My assumption is that with Plus they can use Sony's servers for the peer-to-peer matchmaking (again I'm just assuming this game is peer-to-peer), effectively making the online servers free for the dev. So to remove plus they'd have to run their own servers, which they clearly don't want to do on a dead game that they're making free*.
@Bionic-Spencer and what do they need to do to get their act together? The higher tiers give access to hundreds of games for the price of a single new release. Seems like a pretty good value.
@elvisfan1 it cannot. So no "savings" by skipping PSVR1, you just miss out on those games instead. Rumor is some games will get ported to PSVR2, though.
@Korgon where was this "the people aren't their government" attitude when it comes to Chinese companies? By the way, Tencent has their fingers in this game too if that effects your opinion on it.
@xrayzak47 not everyone gets the same campaigns. Some people even have different requirements for them. I'm afraid it simply won't be possible to get every collectible.
@Beerheadgamer82 I haven't been on PS4 in a while, but on PS5 you go to the PS+ section (all the way left on the home screen), then keep scrolling down. It's like 3rd from the bottom or around there.
I wonder why they don't have contracts with retailers that make them pay up if they break the street date. Especially for a big game like God of War, doubt a retailer would want to miss out on that cash.
I actually don't care if we have to wait between the Japanese and western release, the important thing is that there's a western release at all. If it's a good game, it's not gonna suddenly be a bad game in a couple months or a year.
It's more expensive upfront to localize simultaneously, especially if you end up localizing stuff that gets cut. So it's perfectly reasonable that w smaller publisher may release in one market and use those sales to fund localization into others. But Sega, come on they can afford simultaneous releases.
@thefourfoldroot1 sure, here's a "decent" list of colors, then, I guess: red, blue, pineapple, fork, mauve, car. May as well just give a list of every PSN game and leave it to the reader to figure out what actually belongs, in which point there's not much in the curated list in the first place.
Lists like the PSNP one intentionally misrepresent reality to make things seem worse than they actually are.
@thefourfoldroot1 you still called it a decent list. If you didn't think it's decent, regardless of whether you agree with it, you shouldn't have called it decent. I don't think a list that you have to go through and do additional research on each item to confirm it actually belongs on the list is decent.
@thefourfoldroot1 That PSNP list is not decent. We're supposed to think Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart is censored because Rivet doesn't have big breasts? No, what was released wasn't censored, it was just the final design of the character.
@thefourfoldroot1 I'll was going to give you that one to you, but see the edit. Even though Dead or Alive seems pretty borderline. Looks like a bunch of characters were originally 16 or 17 and then in recent years they decided they would just be older.
Edit: looks like DoA Xtreme 3 Scarlett was never even released in the west, so unless there's news reporting the reason it wasn't released was because it would've been censored, we don't know what effect western censorship would've had, if any. /end-edit
The problem with searching for lists is that they often don't say what's censored and often list reasons that are arguably not censorship but an intentional design decision. If the Japanese version is also "censored" it seems like it's just a horny teenager wishing his favorite anime character wore skimpier clothing. This is why actual examples are better.
@thefourfoldroot1 are there even more than 3 examples of adult character sexualization censorship of japanese games on playstation in the west though? I notice people like to complain about this but then not give any examples.
Off the top of my head for underage censorship there's criminal girls, zanki zero, and labyrinth life.
@PegasusActual93 yes, I've played both the PS4 and PS5 versions last month. Making deliveries that don't go through bt or mule/terrorist zones are extremely easy and consists of either riding ziplines, walking towards the destination and placing ziplines, or driving. There's no threat or anything to worry about. The only challenge is when you have to deal with bts or mules/terrorists since they can actually hurt you.
Poor Sony. PS5 games sales are gonna tank compared to previous generations with not buying games that aren't 60fps even if they're good. Probably will be the last PlayStation console.
@PegasusActual93 no, the real challenge is still the mules/terrorists and bts. The environment itself is very easy to navigate, even more so if you play online so there's already structures everywhere.
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Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for November 2022?
Extra is a bunch of baby games, Ubisoft's least popular franchises, games that were already on Essential, and a couple niche games. Premium on the other hand is a bunch of games from Sony's best franchise. Yeah, it's obvious Premium wins out this month.
Re: Best Online Multiplayer Games on PS5
@Wilforce I think it's because Push Square hasn't reviewed those games.
Re: Allegations of Fraud and Toxicity Emerge in War of Words Between ZA/UM and Disco Elysium Devs
I wish you wouldn't have because Kurvitz's statement reads as total nonsense. How in the world does a minority shareholder get a company to buy and then hand them over free shares?
Edit: they don't go into any more detail on the medium article. So they're just making an outlandish nonsensical "I don't like what you did so you must've cheated!" statement without backing it up on any way. Not a great look for them...
Edit2: and it looks like most of the claims from the company have been independently verified by Gameindustry.biz. Yeah, with what's out there currently, doesn't look good for Kurvitz and the others claims.
Re: PS Plus Premium Members Bemused by Sony Once Again
@OrtadragoonX sounds like you can't play regular games online then either. The input latency will be too much. It's the same thing, the input needs to go from your console to the server/P2P console running the game.
Re: PS Plus Premium Members Bemused by Sony Once Again
@Yuyukirby actually most people don't mind it because they understand PS4 and PS5 can't play PS3 games so this is the only way.
Re: PS Plus Premium Members Bemused by Sony Once Again
@Yuyukirby I've played a ton of great PS3 games through PS Now and Premium.
Re: PS Plus Premium Members Bemused by Sony Once Again
@Grumblevolcano people honestly make streaming into a bigger deal than it is. You don't really need that good of internet either. If you can stream Netflix in hd you can probably stream games (PS3 games are 720p, I think some may be even less). Input latency will be similar to playing any online game.
Re: PS Plus Premium Members Bemused by Sony Once Again
@Haruki_NLI if you just make stuff up you can make anything sound bad. These Ratchet and Clank games were not on PS Now.
The extra tier on the other hand this month does include games that were previously on essential. That tier is the one giving you stuff that you already have.
Re: PS Plus Premium Members Bemused by Sony Once Again
This month's premium is way better than extra, you guys just don't know good games. Sucks about deluxe though, but most regions with that tier are even cheaper than extra (in regions with premium) so they're already getting a better value.
Re: The Last of Us Board Game Funded at Triple the Pledge Goal
@MattT3142 it's very common for boardgames to be kickstarted first because they're extremely niche. The manufacturer needs to know there's actually demand for it and they're not just throwing their money away to make it.
Re: PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for November 2022 Announced
Premium destroys Extra this time. Can't wait to play through all the Ratchet and Clank games again!
Re: Atomic Heart Goes Nuclear with 10 Minutes of Bombastic Boss Gameplay
I was reading elsewhere that Atomic Heart started off as just fake trailers then they hired a dev team to make the trailers into reality. Also the CEO has said things like the game exists to tell a story and the gameplay is irrelevant, so there's that...
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Is Exclusive to PS5 for Six Months, Sony Confirms
@Tecinthebrain more like I don't care what is or isn't on PC, so much so that I don't even register it as comparable to playing on a console. Gaming on console, sitting on a comfy couch in front of a giant TV, is and always has been an infinitely better gaming experience than PC. Everything just works, no need to worry about not being able to run the game because your machine is a couple years old.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Is Exclusive to PS5 for Six Months, Sony Confirms
If it comes out on just PC after 6 months then it's still a PS exclusive. PC doesn't count as a gaming platform. There, I said it.
Re: New PS Stars Rewards Celebrate God of War, Ratchet & Clank, PS3
@SoulChimera you're right, and it turns out this info is on the PS Blog, so not sure why Push Square isn't reporting it. Ratchet and Clank will be for everyone to celebrate the 20th anniversary. The PS3 one is only for people who have specific PS3 models.
Re: New PS Stars Rewards Celebrate God of War, Ratchet & Clank, PS3
Finally a cool looking one with the Ratchet and Clank collectible. Knowing my luck I'll never get the campaign like some of the others.
Re: Bungie Is Concerned PS5 Players are Unwittingly Playing the PS4 Version of Destiny 2
@carlos82 it's more crazy that most devs for some reason think someone would switch from playing a game on their PS4 to PS5, but never ever the other way around. It just doesn't make sense to have one-way only save transfers like that.
Re: Bungie Is Concerned PS5 Players are Unwittingly Playing the PS4 Version of Destiny 2
@carlos82 I play PS4 versions instead of the PS5 one all the time. It's the only way to get the PS4 version's trophies. Unfortunately many games will autopop the PS5 trophies if you've played the PS4 version, but not the other way around, so you need to play the worse version in order to double rip most efficiently. I think Genshin Impact is the only game I have where you can autopop the PS4 trophies from the PS5 version.
Re: PS Plus Premium Gets Five Ratchet & Clank Games on 15th November
@ATaco Ratchet and Clank 1-3 and Deadlocked weren't on Now. They were highly requested, but never added.
Re: PS Plus Premium Gets Five Ratchet & Clank Games on 15th November
Wow, I never thought they'd actually add new PS3 games that weren't on Now. I've really been wanting to plat the PS3 stacks!
Re: Kojima Productions Isn't for Sale, Despite Ridiculously High Offers
Probably Konami. They want to fire him again.
Re: Hold On, PS5 Just Outsold Switch in Japan
Must be evidence that Nintendo is abandoning the Japanese market.
Re: Destroy All Humans! Standalone DLC Clone Carnage Is Now Free to Play, Except on PS4
@BeerIsAwesome I agree there's probably a technical reason for removing Plus for online. My assumption is that with Plus they can use Sony's servers for the peer-to-peer matchmaking (again I'm just assuming this game is peer-to-peer), effectively making the online servers free for the dev. So to remove plus they'd have to run their own servers, which they clearly don't want to do on a dead game that they're making free*.
Re: PS Plus Extra, Premium Lose Five PS4 Games on 15th November
@Bionic-Spencer and what do they need to do to get their act together? The higher tiers give access to hundreds of games for the price of a single new release. Seems like a pretty good value.
Re: PSVR2 Launches 22nd February 2023, Costs $550
Is Nello Neighbor actually Hello Neighbor? Man, that game was so terrible, how is it spawning a franchise? This'll be like the third or fourth game!
Re: PSVR2 Launches 22nd February 2023, Costs $550
@elvisfan1 it cannot. So no "savings" by skipping PSVR1, you just miss out on those games instead. Rumor is some games will get ported to PSVR2, though.
Re: PS Stars Guide: All Campaigns and Solutions (November 2022)
@commanderclif have you beaten Phrike in Returnal? You can try to do it now, but no guarantee the campaign will show up.
Re: Alternate History FPS Atomic Heart to Get PS5, PS4 Release Date Tomorrow
@Korgon where was this "the people aren't their government" attitude when it comes to Chinese companies? By the way, Tencent has their fingers in this game too if that effects your opinion on it.
Re: PS Stars Guide: All Campaigns and Solutions (November 2022)
@xrayzak47 not everyone gets the same campaigns. Some people even have different requirements for them. I'm afraid it simply won't be possible to get every collectible.
Re: As Long As There's PlayStation, Call of Duty Will Release on It
He did it guys, he said COD will continue to release on PS. Too bad he didn't say every COD will release on PS. 😈
Re: Sackboy: A Big Adventure Has Proven Very Unpopular on PC
Am I missing something? 121st best selling game on steam is really good. There's tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of games on steam.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for November 2022?
@Beerheadgamer82 I haven't been on PS4 in a while, but on PS5 you go to the PS+ section (all the way left on the home screen), then keep scrolling down. It's like 3rd from the bottom or around there.
Re: God of War Ragnarok PS5, PS4 Spoilers Rife As Retailers Break Street Date
I wonder why they don't have contracts with retailers that make them pay up if they break the street date. Especially for a big game like God of War, doubt a retailer would want to miss out on that cash.
Re: The Witcher Will Return for a Fourth Season on Netflix, without Henry Cavill
Didn't Cavill basically have to beg to get the role because he loves Witcher so much? Surprised he'd give it up then. Must love movie money more.
Re: Japan Simply Isn't Enough Anymore as Square Enix Calls Global Market a 'Critical' Priority
I actually don't care if we have to wait between the Japanese and western release, the important thing is that there's a western release at all. If it's a good game, it's not gonna suddenly be a bad game in a couple months or a year.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Gotham Knights?
Everyone: Gotham Knights and Plague Tale will totally suck because they're not 60fps.
Also everyone: Gotham Knights and Plague Tale are pretty darn good games. Love them!
Re: Persona 5's Huge Success Is Down to Western Sales, SEGA Report Reiterates
It's more expensive upfront to localize simultaneously, especially if you end up localizing stuff that gets cut. So it's perfectly reasonable that w smaller publisher may release in one market and use those sales to fund localization into others. But Sega, come on they can afford simultaneous releases.
Re: The Callisto Protocol Cancels Japanese Release After Refusing to Censor Violence
@thefourfoldroot1 sure, here's a "decent" list of colors, then, I guess: red, blue, pineapple, fork, mauve, car. May as well just give a list of every PSN game and leave it to the reader to figure out what actually belongs, in which point there's not much in the curated list in the first place.
Lists like the PSNP one intentionally misrepresent reality to make things seem worse than they actually are.
Re: The Callisto Protocol Cancels Japanese Release After Refusing to Censor Violence
@thefourfoldroot1 you still called it a decent list. If you didn't think it's decent, regardless of whether you agree with it, you shouldn't have called it decent. I don't think a list that you have to go through and do additional research on each item to confirm it actually belongs on the list is decent.
Re: The Callisto Protocol Cancels Japanese Release After Refusing to Censor Violence
@thefourfoldroot1 That PSNP list is not decent. We're supposed to think Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart is censored because Rivet doesn't have big breasts? No, what was released wasn't censored, it was just the final design of the character.
Re: The Callisto Protocol Cancels Japanese Release After Refusing to Censor Violence
@thefourfoldroot1 I'll was going to give you that one to you, but see the edit. Even though Dead or Alive seems pretty borderline. Looks like a bunch of characters were originally 16 or 17 and then in recent years they decided they would just be older.
Edit: looks like DoA Xtreme 3 Scarlett was never even released in the west, so unless there's news reporting the reason it wasn't released was because it would've been censored, we don't know what effect western censorship would've had, if any. /end-edit
The problem with searching for lists is that they often don't say what's censored and often list reasons that are arguably not censorship but an intentional design decision. If the Japanese version is also "censored" it seems like it's just a horny teenager wishing his favorite anime character wore skimpier clothing. This is why actual examples are better.
Re: The Callisto Protocol Cancels Japanese Release After Refusing to Censor Violence
@thefourfoldroot1 are there even more than 3 examples of adult character sexualization censorship of japanese games on playstation in the west though? I notice people like to complain about this but then not give any examples.
Off the top of my head for underage censorship there's criminal girls, zanki zero, and labyrinth life.
Re: Hideo Kojima Says Next Project Will Transcend Video Games, 'It's Almost Like a New Medium'
@PegasusActual93 yes, I've played both the PS4 and PS5 versions last month. Making deliveries that don't go through bt or mule/terrorist zones are extremely easy and consists of either riding ziplines, walking towards the destination and placing ziplines, or driving. There's no threat or anything to worry about. The only challenge is when you have to deal with bts or mules/terrorists since they can actually hurt you.
Re: PS5 Players Don't Want to See 60fps Die Out
Poor Sony. PS5 games sales are gonna tank compared to previous generations with not buying games that aren't 60fps even if they're good. Probably will be the last PlayStation console.
Re: The Callisto Protocol Cancels Japanese Release After Refusing to Censor Violence
Gasp, some legitimate censorship and Sony's not the one behind it. Color me not surprised.
Re: Hideo Kojima Says Next Project Will Transcend Video Games, 'It's Almost Like a New Medium'
@PegasusActual93 just because it's the majority of the game doesn't make holding the left stick in one direction a challenge.
Re: Hideo Kojima Says Next Project Will Transcend Video Games, 'It's Almost Like a New Medium'
If he thinks he's gonna change the film industry, sounds like he's making an FMV game.
Re: Hideo Kojima Says Next Project Will Transcend Video Games, 'It's Almost Like a New Medium'
@PegasusActual93 no, the real challenge is still the mules/terrorists and bts. The environment itself is very easy to navigate, even more so if you play online so there's already structures everywhere.
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for November 2022 Announced
Can't wait for the poll to vote 'crap'.
Re: The Witcher Remake Announced, Rebuilt in Unreal Engine 5
Oh boy, can't wait for a mediocre at best game like Witcher 3 that everyone's gonna claim is the best game ever, like Witcher 3.