MrPeanutbutterz

@knowles2 From my experience with Subscription Bros, they want an infinite supply of their own very particular (and usually narrow) tastes catered to, screw everyone else, and they'd like to keep it all for two quid per month. And if they stop paying that fee, they'd still want access.

@Major_Player People comparing completely different services will never cease to amaze me. Call of Duty ain't on the basic tier of GamePass, the equivalent of Essential , which is what's being discussed here. It's also, you know, owned by Microsoft who are utterly desperate to get people to use GamePass/their almost dead platform.

Oh, and there is in fact a day one game on here this month.

The sheer self-entitlement of modern gamers really is something to behold.

@PuppetMaster Well done on getting your characters to Master. I've Blanka at Diamond 5, been meaning to push through.

What controller do you use? I'm on a standard Dualsense, though I get phantom inputs on L2, so I have it disabled. It happens on both controllers, and also when playing Tekken 8. Maybe putting pressure on the d-pad makes the L2 mechanism have a mind if it's own.

@zupertramp You do realise that how you phrased it implies they've put ALL their focus into the Pro? ALL. To wit;

"I think it's just disheartening that they could have been putting all their focus on a PS6, but chose a half gen refresh instead"

If you wrote "they chose a half gen refresh AS WELL" you'd have a point, but you didn't, so you don't. Using "instead" after "all their focus" means you think that all their focus is on the Pro.

So don't you dare talk about MY reading comprehension when your literacy issues - the inability to communicate what you actually mean - is the issue here.

Bro. JFC. Etc.

The digital PS5 had the same thing. Not exactly flaunting it, more a warning to uninformed consumers.

@zupertramp But you also said "I think it's just disheartening that they could have been putting all their focus on a PS6, but chose a half gen refresh instead", implying you don't think they're deep into PS6 development.

Are big bad for-profit corporation Sony coming around and smashing your PS5 with a hammer and making you buy a Pro? Or is the super-niche, super optional Pro a thing for people who want it?

Yeah, two configurations vs. the hundreds of a modular device. Sigh indeed.

@zupertramp Wait, you think the PS6 isn't balls deep into development? The Pro's PSSR is strongly speculated to be a test-bed for potential PS6 tech too.

How's it "greedy"? Your base PS5 (if you have one) still works the same. The entirely optional PS5 Pro existing doesn't negate it.

Why not make it modular? Because then you go from one fixed platform target (with another with "added bells and whistles" mode) to hundreds, if not thousands. That makes already protracted game development even longer.

ITT - people not understanding that the hardware division doesn't sit around twiddling it's thumbs for years, and are always working on something.

@LogicStrikesAgain Hear hear.

Since I've started reading this website (a few months ago), I've repeatedly asked myself do the users here actually enjoy videogames? Because the comments sections would have you believe they do not.

@nomither6 I ignored inflation in that instance too. In pure numerical "this is how much cash I have to hand over at time of purchase" value, the PS3 (for me in Ireland) was €630. The PS5 was €500.

A very simplistic explanation of inflation is your money has less purchasing power today than it did in the past. Basically, you get less for the same amount of money. So when we do take inflation into account, that €630 from March 2007 is the equivalent of €801 today (coincidentally a euro more than the PS5 Pro's RRP).

Aside from OtherOS (which was scrapped), and lots of pointless card readers, what's so different about the PS5 vs. PS3? PS5 is far more reliable, far more quiet, has better back compat with PS4 than the PS3 did with PS2 (and there's also no chance of that being removed), much better online functionality, better controller, better storage, better expansion options, 4K Blu-ray player...

@nomither6 Ironic that you call the PS5 "overpriced", then peg the PS3 as the best PlayStation. That was way more expensive than the PS5 at launch and that's before adjusting for inflation.

And the only reason they got the price down is because they stripped out a load of features.

@LifeGirl Such nonsensical logic. Concord existing doesn't negate all the other amazing games being amazing.

Just like how an amazing album can he amazing even if there's one dud track on it.

@Rich33 You're not imagining it. The framerate is indeed a dumpster fire (even after the last big patch, which was when I played it).

@Uromastryx Yep, watched my friend play a bit on PS3 recently and yikes...

@Northern_munkey I played the demo, bought, and subsequently sold the game precisely because of the framerate being a dumpster fire.

And yes, of course your VRR display helps, but that doesn't change the fact the game is frequently outside the VRR window.

"For the record, Capcom's managed to improve Dragon's Dogma 2 quite dramatically since its release back in March."

While this is true, it's still the most janky game I've played since buying a PS5 at launch. The framerate yo-yos all over the place.

@KillerBoy That doesn't matter. Your original comment was about "Sony and their L's" (or whatever your exact words were). I mentioned Helldivers 2 because it has been a roaring success for Sony because they are both the publisher and IP holder. The developer doesn't matter.

Once again using your logic, Gears of War 2 wasn't a success for Xbox because Microsoft didn't own Epic. Heck, Sony didn't own Insomniac until 2019, so are you also saying that the entire Ratchet and Clank series (bar Rift Apart) or the 2018 Spider-Man game weren't success for Sony?

@KillerBoy What part of "Sony owns the Helldivers IP" are you struggling with, exactly? 🤔

@Swoleguy Only a fraction of the subscriber base has Extra/Premium, and Ghostwire was removed from it ages ago anyways.

You do understand there's a finite number of games they can put on the service, right?

@Swoleguy You mean like... Hotwheels Unleashed 2 and Death Note?

Ghostwire is ass, Hotwheels Unleashed 2 is a step back from the first game, but still a 9/10 arcade racer.

@KillerBoy And last I checked the Helldivers IP is owned by Sony. Doesn't matter who the developers were, it was a success for Sony.

Your logic is like saying "Gears of War wasn't successful for Xbox because Epic weren't owned by Microsoft".

@KillerBoy Yeah like Helldivers 2 being their fastest-selling game ever, and Astro Bot being the highest-rated game of the year...

The most potent way to suck the fun out of a beloved game - add a digital participation trinket checklist.

Zzz...

@popey1980 Hardware and optimisation aren't infinite resources.

Plenty of jank on previous generations.

@Banjo- A similar article on Eurogamer claims the PlayStation sales are 80% on PS5, 8% on PS4.

@Bionic-Spencer I'd imagine that for people like your friend who plays CoD and not much else an Xbox with GamePass would be an awful idea - another box for the same price as the one you already have, another subscription to play online, then another to keep access to the game.

Curious to see how this runs after the steaming pile of doggy doo-doo that was Dragon's Dogma 2.

@Dimey Power to you, there's some amazing games on there. Heck, I kinda lament the fact I didn't finish my Metal Gear Rising Revengeance replay before I sold it, but I did have a moment of "wait, I bought another 500 bucks console to replay Xbox 360 games at 60FPS?!" moment.

Caveat - a buddy was looking to buy a Series X at the same price I was happy to sell for, so I said "fudge it, I don't play it much anyways" and did both of us a solid.

@Soik It was the catalyst for me to box up my Series X and sell it.

@Danloaded From the Xbox devoted, yes.

@get2sammyb I dunno, Xbox have been operating in "headless chicken" mode longer than they haven't. They had their own identity up until they decided to go after a piece of the Wii Pie with Kinect on the 360 and alienated the core audience that made the platform a success in the process.

They've been as unsure about themselves and their brand identity as the punters have ever since.

@UnlimitedSevens Would love to see how you arrived at that less than 1% figure...

@Max_the_German Are you wilfully ignoring the fact that I was spending that money regardless? I also never said it was a good deal, I asked you why you thought it was laughable.

Imagine you're spending that money on a fridge, a sofa, or some other big ticket item. The retailer for absolutely no reason hands you €60 of the price back as store credit. Are you turning it down? Are you telling your friends the store is "laughable"? You're not - so why's getting PSN store credit back on PSN store purchases laughable?

I also never said it was a "legitimate deal". But which is a better deal - four percent back, or zero percent back? We both know the answer to that one too.

@Max_the_German What I spent is irrelevant, I was buying those games regardless because I wanted to play them. Again, I effectively got €60 off them for my troubles.

So I'll ask again - how is that laughable?

@Max_the_German How was it laughable? I got €60 credit back for buying and playing the games I was gonna buy and play anyways.

@MidnightDragonDX The rewards are fine, but they're effectively peanuts. Can't imagine any physical retailer having better rewards than this.

@LowDefAl It's clearly a conspiracy by $ony to ruin my Cornflakes!!!1!! (or something).

At worst it's a for profit business adjusting their loyalty scheme.

@MidnightDragonDX Odd take. I've a PSN account that I've been spending money on since 2008. I've got €60 back from Stars since it started just by buying and playing the games I was gonna buy and play anyways.

And I'd struggle to name a loyalty scheme that's retroactive. That'd be like your gran going into Tesco (or wherever) and asking them to backdate their new loyalty card because she's been shopping there since the 1970s.

@Northern_munkey "Revolution calling!!!" 😆

Geoff Tate played a gig down the road from me a few weeks back (in Ireland, effectively in a pub). I couldn't make it, but a buddy went said it was great.

That said, I think Midnight from Crimson Glory pips both of those boys in the vocal department!

Gone for me too in Ireland.

However I'll assume it's a bug before grabbing my pitchfork.

@Northern_munkey None of those 80s bands I mentioned are either in fairness 😂

Just good, powerful vocals (okay so Sabbat are a bit gruffer, but it's still great to hear Walkyier rattle through those lyrics.

@colonelkilgore "I like" the truth, and there it is.

@Northern_munkey Yep, and Trouble, Candlemass, Sanctuary, Sabbat, Saint Vitus, Cirith Ungol, Queensryche, Pentagram, Watchtower...

@Jrs1 Yeah he was a bit of an arsehole in his later years (RIP, nevertheless), but the first two are classics for sure.

@colonelkilgore Is that the sound of an ad homenim because you lost the argument and have nothing relevant to fire back with? Why yes, yes it is.

@nomither6 The same PS2 that's frequently cited as the greatest console of all time and is still to this day the best-selling of all time?

Lol

@TechaNinja Ah yes, let's ignore the fact that there's far more games that don't have a 120Hz mode because the PS5 can't hit it in those games, and devs can do it with the more powerful PS5 Pro.