@PhantomMenace84 Two things; 1. They said going in that there wasn't going to be nearly as much combat as the game in order to make the show much more believable before the first episode even aired. We can suspend our disbelief that Joel and Ellie can massacre dozens and dozens of enemies unscathed in a video game but in a tv show with a very grounded tone most people can't suspend their disbelief to that same level. 2. This season is covering the whole first game. I think they can make it work.
@djlard You cared enough to click on this article, look at the vote options, scroll down and then comment you dont care. That's an awful lot of caring for supposedly not caring.
@Korgon You can watch any Youtube video that would explain why this game is a scam way better than I ever could. Developer with an abysmal track record, allegations of stolen assets, every piece of footage being proven to be so staged it is laughable, the game being dropped from Steam, it just goes on and on.
@Nepp67 I never got the appeal of battle passes or really any microtransactions period. I have never once in my life spent so much as a dime on any free to play game.
@HEVIHITR
HBO's weekly episode model has always been better for them, many of their shows including: Game of Thrones, Westworld, Boardwalk Empire, Euphoria, House of the Dragon, etc. have all remained in the public conscious because of it keeping people talking about them for months on end. Countless streaming shows by comparison have been hurt or even cancelled because everyone watches the whole thing at once and then immediately forget about it for a year or two until the next season drops so they then talk about it for maybe a couple days, rinse and repeat.
@BeerIsAwesome
All jokes aside a comedy movie or whatever where the main character is always invisible and they purposefully never show them just to f--k with the audience would be pretty funny. Leave the voice actor who voices the character uncredited also so it will drive everyone crazy trying to find out who they are.
@Controller-Drift
Alot of people have quoted how long to beat but I have never found their estimates to be the least bit accurate. They have a tendency to overestimate things. I stick to what the average of people beating games on youtube as the much more accurate estimate and on average most are finishing at around 9-12 hours. Left Behind takes about 90 minutes.
@Controller-Drift
Thats still six more episodes after Bills town. Last of Us was only a 10 hour game and that included long stretches of combat and traversal that are obviously going to be cut out of this show. I'm not worried about it being rushed.
@MulletproofPunk
Typically episodes in HBO series from my experience (excluding the pilot and the season finales) tend to be anywhere from 50-60 minutes. Though there are also exceptions even to that, almost every episode of House of the Dragon was more than an hour.
@Blackmagehobbit The spores plot element was changed in this series to make the plot more believable as if the virus was spread through spores humanity would be completely wiped out in less than a week.
Another great episode. Those clicker encounters were every bit as epic as I could have asked for in live action and the ruined city look was phenomenal. You can see where all the money went.
@Constable_What
Joel would have still gone through all the trouble because:
1. At the start of the journey he saw Ellie as nothing more than a job.
2. They bonded over the journey to the point Joel couldn't have the heart to tell her it's all likely fruitless since Ellie wanted to attempt a cure (plus maybe he wanted to believe there is a cure deep down despite knowing or at least believing it's all BS)
3. Figured they were just going to do some tests, find nothing worthwhile then release her back to him until learning the operation would kill Ellie.
Plus even if scientists are still desperately trying to find a cure the rest of society could still just know deep down inside that there couldn't be a cure. Not to mention only a few people know of Ellie being immune, so survivors at large wouldn't even have that modicum of hope. Joel taking Ellie away would have been the official final nail in the coffin of any cure, so yes Joel would have figured there is an element of truth to that lie. Therefore I deduce either he knew there's no cure or at the very least was a firm believer there isn't one. But hey that's just a theory. A game theory.
@Constable_What At the end of the first game Joel mentions that "they couldn't find a cure so they stopped trying" to Ellie. Sure you could just brush that off as Joel lying to Ellie and nothing more, but Joel is also a smart man. He wouldn't tell a lie that didn't have some semblance of truth to it.
@nomither6 I was just using that as an example, you can apply the same to just about any generation. And early 360 games have not aged as well as I thought (many early 360 games also had PS2 equivalents just saying), boosting the resolution only does so much.
@Truegamer79 I see a lot of comments similar to yours about how games don't look much better than they did on (insert console here) until they go back to look and realize those games do not look as good as they remembered. I had that very realization with PS2 games.
Haven't heard of many of these so that's good. Would also have put Phantom Fury on this list. It's a sequel to Ion Fury that's a homage to early 2000's FPS games.
@Octane
The Star Wars films are two and a half hour movies and they still cost at least twice as much as even the most expensive of TV shows. Game of Thrones isn't actually all that CGI intensive other than when dragons are on screen and maybe the White Walkers, even then those shots are used sparingly. West World wasn't that CG heavy either other than the odd scene here and there. It was mostly dialogue heavy human actor interactions especially in the first two seasons. Horizon not only would basically every shot have to be CG to properly convey the world because practical would be logistically impossible, you would also very frequently have several if not in some cases dozens of the things on screen at any one time. It's like doing Rick and Morty in live action, it's a fools errand so just stick to animation. I know people that work as CG animators, CGI is NOT cheap.
@Anthony_Daniels I swear to god i read it was animated but if it's live action that is a terrible idea, the concept just won't work in live action regardless who is behind it.
@Octane The amount of post apocalyptic detail and fauna, the scale of everything, the amount of CG required to do that many convincing machines, etc. It just would be way too expensive to do in live action, especially with regards to TV show length so the only practical way would be animated, which is what the Netflix adaptation will be.
@Anthony_Daniels
Last of Us in live action is one thing but doing Horizon in a live action series would just be straight up impossible so it would have to be animated and HBO rarely if ever does animated shows. I think the last notable animated series they did was the Spawn series and that was all the way back in the 90s. So they probably had no choice but to go with Netflix.
@danlk1ng As an American who has Hbomax and can luckily watch it in 4K, it really pisses me off that Europeans are just inherently getting an inferior streaming experience just because of where you live. Is it not possible to just access it via VPN?
@themightyant HBO is adamant about keeping their episode releases weekly. The CEO made it clear they do not want to follow the "Netflix" release model.
@WallyWest
Neil's scripts tend to be mediocre but he is a very competent director in terms of visuals and pacing and he didn't write the screenplay so I wouldn't be too fussed about that.
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@KaijuKaiser
I don't know where you live specifically but I live in Florida so I sadly have to deal with that bull---t everyday.
Re: Poll: How Good Was The Last of Us - Episode 4?
@PhantomMenace84
Two things;
1. They said going in that there wasn't going to be nearly as much combat as the game in order to make the show much more believable before the first episode even aired. We can suspend our disbelief that Joel and Ellie can massacre dozens and dozens of enemies unscathed in a video game but in a tv show with a very grounded tone most people can't suspend their disbelief to that same level.
2. This season is covering the whole first game. I think they can make it work.
Re: Poll: How Good Was The Last of Us - Episode 4?
@djlard
You cared enough to click on this article, look at the vote options, scroll down and then comment you dont care. That's an awful lot of caring for supposedly not caring.
Re: Poll: How Good Was The Last of Us - Episode 4?
@CWill97
Episode 5 is releasing Friday to avoid the Super Bowl, just so you know.
Re: Poll: How Good Was The Last of Us - Episode 4?
I think Bella really shined as Ellie the most in this episode thus far.
Re: Anticipated Survival MMO The Day Before Underwhelms in 10 Minutes of Stale Gameplay
@Korgon
You can watch any Youtube video that would explain why this game is a scam way better than I ever could. Developer with an abysmal track record, allegations of stolen assets, every piece of footage being proven to be so staged it is laughable, the game being dropped from Steam, it just goes on and on.
Re: Anticipated Survival MMO The Day Before Underwhelms in 10 Minutes of Stale Gameplay
This game is a scam in the making
Re: Shadow Warrior 3: Definitive Edition Slashes to PS5 on 16th February, Is a Free Upgrade
@KidBoruto
Both the first and the second game got PS4 releases yes. You can find them digitally for usually pretty cheap.
Re: Warzone 2.0 Ashika Island Map, Resurgence Mode Will Be Perfect for High-Risk Hot Drops
@Nepp67
I never got the appeal of battle passes or really any microtransactions period. I have never once in my life spent so much as a dime on any free to play game.
Re: Poll: Was The Last of Us - Episode 3 the Best One Yet?
@Truegamer79
It wasn't even implied, Bill told Joel in the game straight up that Frank was his partner.
Re: Actress Annie Wersching, Who Played Tess in The Last of Us, Has Passed Away
@vrubayka
I take it you aren't American.
Re: Actress Annie Wersching, Who Played Tess in The Last of Us, Has Passed Away
@TheCollector316
If cancer and alzheimer's both went away the world would be so much better.
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@HotGoomba
I just watched that video again last night, I kid you not.
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@HEVIHITR
HBO's weekly episode model has always been better for them, many of their shows including: Game of Thrones, Westworld, Boardwalk Empire, Euphoria, House of the Dragon, etc. have all remained in the public conscious because of it keeping people talking about them for months on end. Countless streaming shows by comparison have been hurt or even cancelled because everyone watches the whole thing at once and then immediately forget about it for a year or two until the next season drops so they then talk about it for maybe a couple days, rinse and repeat.
Re: PS5, PS4's The Lord of the Rings: Gollum Will Finally Launch by September 2023
@QBGaming12
Rob has this weird ability to make almost any game he plays or talks about seem better than it actually is.
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@johncalmc
Considering he has been dead for quite some time I don't know how I would feel about that.
Re: You Can't See Him, But John Cena Confirms WWE 2K23 for March 2023
@BeerIsAwesome
All jokes aside a comedy movie or whatever where the main character is always invisible and they purposefully never show them just to f--k with the audience would be pretty funny. Leave the voice actor who voices the character uncredited also so it will drive everyone crazy trying to find out who they are.
Re: TV Show Review: The Last of Us (HBO) Episode 2 - Establishing a New Lore
@Controller-Drift
Alot of people have quoted how long to beat but I have never found their estimates to be the least bit accurate. They have a tendency to overestimate things. I stick to what the average of people beating games on youtube as the much more accurate estimate and on average most are finishing at around 9-12 hours. Left Behind takes about 90 minutes.
Re: TV Show Review: The Last of Us (HBO) Episode 2 - Establishing a New Lore
@Controller-Drift
Thats still six more episodes after Bills town. Last of Us was only a 10 hour game and that included long stretches of combat and traversal that are obviously going to be cut out of this show. I'm not worried about it being rushed.
Re: TV Show Review: The Last of Us (HBO) Episode 2 - Establishing a New Lore
@MulletproofPunk
Typically episodes in HBO series from my experience (excluding the pilot and the season finales) tend to be anywhere from 50-60 minutes. Though there are also exceptions even to that, almost every episode of House of the Dragon was more than an hour.
Re: TV Show Review: The Last of Us (HBO) Episode 2 - Establishing a New Lore
@Blackmagehobbit
The spores plot element was changed in this series to make the plot more believable as if the virus was spread through spores humanity would be completely wiped out in less than a week.
Re: Poll: How Would You Rate The Last of Us - Episode 2?
Another great episode. Those clicker encounters were every bit as epic as I could have asked for in live action and the ruined city look was phenomenal. You can see where all the money went.
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@Victor_Meldrew
The N64 back in 1996 launched with just two games and nobody complained back then but 37 suddenly isn't enough hah.
Re: Colossal Cave Remake Hits PS5 Today, Seemingly Also Coming to PSVR2
Only reason I have even heard of the original game is because it was a plot point in the show Halt and Catch Fire. Looks interesting all the same.
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@lindos
They got Ellie wrong? That scene where she flips off and cusses out the one guard was as pure Ellie as you can get.
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@nessisonett
His first few albums were decent, after 2015 though he fell off HARD.
Re: Random: Rapper Logic 'Conned' His Way into The Last of Us Part II
@Arnna
Apparently I'm not a fan of Doom because I finished each game about a dozen times lol.
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@SamMR
I imagine that budget factors into the DLC as well but even still.
Re: Poll: Share Your First Thoughts on The Last of Us TV Series
@Constable_What
Joel would have still gone through all the trouble because:
1. At the start of the journey he saw Ellie as nothing more than a job.
2. They bonded over the journey to the point Joel couldn't have the heart to tell her it's all likely fruitless since Ellie wanted to attempt a cure (plus maybe he wanted to believe there is a cure deep down despite knowing or at least believing it's all BS)
3. Figured they were just going to do some tests, find nothing worthwhile then release her back to him until learning the operation would kill Ellie.
Plus even if scientists are still desperately trying to find a cure the rest of society could still just know deep down inside that there couldn't be a cure. Not to mention only a few people know of Ellie being immune, so survivors at large wouldn't even have that modicum of hope. Joel taking Ellie away would have been the official final nail in the coffin of any cure, so yes Joel would have figured there is an element of truth to that lie. Therefore I deduce either he knew there's no cure or at the very least was a firm believer there isn't one. But hey that's just a theory. A game theory.
Re: Poll: Share Your First Thoughts on The Last of Us TV Series
@Constable_What
At the end of the first game Joel mentions that "they couldn't find a cure so they stopped trying" to Ellie. Sure you could just brush that off as Joel lying to Ellie and nothing more, but Joel is also a smart man. He wouldn't tell a lie that didn't have some semblance of truth to it.
Re: Dead Space PS5 Remake Graphics and Performance Options Detailed
@nomither6
I was just using that as an example, you can apply the same to just about any generation. And early 360 games have not aged as well as I thought (many early 360 games also had PS2 equivalents just saying), boosting the resolution only does so much.
Re: Poll: Share Your First Thoughts on The Last of Us TV Series
@Constable_What
What conflict are you trying to infer?
Re: Dead Space PS5 Remake Graphics and Performance Options Detailed
@Truegamer79
I see a lot of comments similar to yours about how games don't look much better than they did on (insert console here) until they go back to look and realize those games do not look as good as they remembered. I had that very realization with PS2 games.
Re: Dead Space PS5 Remake Graphics and Performance Options Detailed
@dasd2
It's the future of lighting and reflection technology, it's just too demanding on hardware right now.
Re: Poll: Share Your First Thoughts on The Last of Us TV Series
The live action video game adaption curse might have just been broken. I was optimistic going in but damn
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Haven't heard of many of these so that's good. Would also have put Phantom Fury on this list. It's a sequel to Ion Fury that's a homage to early 2000's FPS games.
Re: Round Up: The Last of Us TV Reviews Praise a Great Adaptation
@Octane
The Star Wars films are two and a half hour movies and they still cost at least twice as much as even the most expensive of TV shows. Game of Thrones isn't actually all that CGI intensive other than when dragons are on screen and maybe the White Walkers, even then those shots are used sparingly. West World wasn't that CG heavy either other than the odd scene here and there. It was mostly dialogue heavy human actor interactions especially in the first two seasons. Horizon not only would basically every shot have to be CG to properly convey the world because practical would be logistically impossible, you would also very frequently have several if not in some cases dozens of the things on screen at any one time. It's like doing Rick and Morty in live action, it's a fools errand so just stick to animation. I know people that work as CG animators, CGI is NOT cheap.
Re: Round Up: The Last of Us TV Reviews Praise a Great Adaptation
@Anthony_Daniels
I swear to god i read it was animated but if it's live action that is a terrible idea, the concept just won't work in live action regardless who is behind it.
Re: Round Up: The Last of Us TV Reviews Praise a Great Adaptation
@ActionPanther
Arcane, Castlevania, and Cyberpunk Edgerunners all exist so it kind of is major praise in today's age.
Re: Round Up: The Last of Us TV Reviews Praise a Great Adaptation
@Octane
The amount of post apocalyptic detail and fauna, the scale of everything, the amount of CG required to do that many convincing machines, etc.
It just would be way too expensive to do in live action, especially with regards to TV show length so the only practical way would be animated, which is what the Netflix adaptation will be.
Re: Round Up: The Last of Us TV Reviews Praise a Great Adaptation
@Anthony_Daniels
Last of Us in live action is one thing but doing Horizon in a live action series would just be straight up impossible so it would have to be animated and HBO rarely if ever does animated shows. I think the last notable animated series they did was the Spawn series and that was all the way back in the 90s. So they probably had no choice but to go with Netflix.
Re: Where to Watch The Last of Us TV Show
@GreatAuk
That is officially the most random reply I have ever gotten.
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@TrashcanMan
My wife is formally Swedish so it's always funny to me to find a random Swede in the wild.
Re: Where to Watch The Last of Us TV Show
@danlk1ng
As an American who has Hbomax and can luckily watch it in 4K, it really pisses me off that Europeans are just inherently getting an inferior streaming experience just because of where you live. Is it not possible to just access it via VPN?
Re: Where to Watch The Last of Us TV Show
@themightyant
HBO is adamant about keeping their episode releases weekly. The CEO made it clear they do not want to follow the "Netflix" release model.
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@GreatAuk
Every first party Sony game is third person. I want to see them tackle FPS games again for a change.
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Well thats it the human race has officially peaked.
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@WallyWest
Neil's scripts tend to be mediocre but he is a very competent director in terms of visuals and pacing and he didn't write the screenplay so I wouldn't be too fussed about that.
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@nessisonett
Majorly disagree Infinite had the best gunplay and movement of the series and the art direction is still pretty. Don't @me.
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I would like to know what type of game this even is. Is it Factions on steroids, battle royale, open world survival? What the hell even is this thing?