@NEStalgia It’s basically whales and fanboys mostly buying games at this point except the very biggest ones. Casuals and Regular people are not going to drop $70 on these smaller games.
@KaijuKaiser Based on this logic, Sony should just go all in on free to play games and yearly sports games because “they make the most money”. Your mentality is terrible for gaming and only good for shareholders pockets.
I believe it too when they are selling that $200 edge controller and PS Premium still exists. And the pc prices and overall game prices. Milking as hard as possible.
@nomither6 Nothing in frontiers annoyed me as much as most of the treasure hunting stages in SA2 or the fishing in SA1. And Frontiers is not “boost to win at all”,the boost is not as fast in the cyberspace levels as in generations and the level design is not as narrow as generations.
@Americansamurai1 I remember people expecting a showcase all last year and nothing. You have to expect the bare minimum from Sony these days,wouldn’t surprise me if Spider-Man is the only first party game this whole year.
@RonnieL There are still tons of people who damaged controlled and and made excuses for it though. There are people who literally support Sony like they are their parents and not a billion dollar corporation,and it’s embarrassing and does damage to gaming as whole.
I know scalpers who have sold hundreds to thousands of these on eBay from 700-1000 dollars. They got their money already a long time ago. People thinking they have lost anything are delusional.
@4kgk2 someone satisfied with 2 games, one of which is not even from Sony’s first party sounds like a casual to me. That’s literally nothing compared to the PS3 or PS2 era, that’s bare minimum.
Go back and look what was released for PS2 in 2003. Like 50 games.
@KaijuKaiser and what exactly are you playing on PlayStation right now? Guarantee it’s either a multiplat or an old game, because Sony has released basically nothing this year worth playing.
They have nothing but Spider-Man and FF16 which is a third party game, and will be on PC in no time. This is another lackluster year, and anyone actually paying attention sees that.
Where in my post did I mention specifically Sony? Your response says more about you than me, that you immediately rush to defend them when Nintendo had games on the list too like Minecraft.
@MayaMousavi ok, and how many actual copies are the games selling? They don’t actually reveal numbers. Back in the day in the PS3/360 era they used to say REAL NUMBERS.
@KaijuKaiser Japanese games went from being a focus of PlayStation to a complete afterthought. What did you expect, everyone to be silent and just accept whatever Sony does? Since you care about sales the most I’m sure you’ll love their live service games.
@AdamNovice Sackboy was a run of the mill platformer inferior to LBP, Astro was a pack in tech demo and Destruction all stars was mid. This is how low the bar is now, it doesn’t even remotely compare to their PS3 output yet alone PS2 or PS1. NEW IP’s like crazy, not just endless sequels from the previous generation like now.
I would love to actually see real numbers of how many copies these games are selling. How do we not know a game can sell like 5K copies and chart? It’s all trickery and manipulation tbh.
When they are putting out $200 dollar controllers, $600 headset, ps premium, and charged $70 for a remake and all PS5 games regardless of scope I absolutely believe it. Sony has been all about milking their fans for everything and a lot of blind consumers will buy it.
@jrt87 Selling it wouldn’t change the fact they were purposely deceptive with their marketing in many ways. They sold their console based on “ exclusives” which they know have pc ports in development. Maybe you are fine being lied to, but I will hold them accountable. My PS5 is just a glorified PS4 archive.
I bought every single console since 2000 except series x because it has no exclusives. And it’s not a coincidence it’s dead last every month and people are selling it below retail price.
@NEStalgia and that’s just one reason of many reasons consoles are a shell of what they used to be along with everything being put on pc. Modern consoles are essentially cod and madden machines for kids and people who have no understanding of technology at all.
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Re: PlayStation Showcase Finally Announced
It better be good. Actual surprises and not just obvious stuff and not a bunch of third party games.
Re: SEGA Could Join Sony in Raising Its Game Prices to $70
@NEStalgia It’s basically whales and fanboys mostly buying games at this point except the very biggest ones. Casuals and Regular people are not going to drop $70 on these smaller games.
Re: Rumour: Konami Expected to Feature in Huge PS Showcase in Coming Weeks
I expect the bare minimum obvious with little surprises.
Re: Former PlayStation Boss Saddened by PixelOpus Studio Closure
@KaijuKaiser Based on this logic, Sony should just go all in on free to play games and yearly sports games because “they make the most money”. Your mentality is terrible for gaming and only good for shareholders pockets.
Re: Despite Being Bought by Sony, Bungie Increases Destiny 2's Season Pass Pricing
@thefourfoldroot1 Way more adults are buying these things than you realize.
Re: PS5 Pro Is '100%' Happening, Says Reliable Report
@IOI people paid far more than $600 for PS5’s from the scalpers already. This will sell on brand name alone.
Re: PS5 Pro Is '100%' Happening, Says Reliable Report
I believe it too when they are selling that $200 edge controller and PS Premium still exists. And the pc prices and overall game prices. Milking as hard as possible.
Re: Prepare Yourself for More Sonic as Frontiers Fuels Software Sales for SEGA
@nomither6 Nothing in frontiers annoyed me as much as most of the treasure hunting stages in SA2 or the fishing in SA1. And Frontiers is not “boost to win at all”,the boost is not as fast in the cyberspace levels as in generations and the level design is not as narrow as generations.
Re: Prepare Yourself for More Sonic as Frontiers Fuels Software Sales for SEGA
@JSnow2 it wasn’t a slog to me because of Sonic’s speed. You can travel the entire map in no time which better than walking or riding a horse
Re: Prepare Yourself for More Sonic as Frontiers Fuels Software Sales for SEGA
@Uncharted2007 Generations and Colors were both good. Generations is arguably better than the adventure games tbh.
Re: Preview: Street Fighter 6 PS5, PS4 Chucks the Kitchen Sink At Fans Who Complained About the Previous Game
Day 1 buy. Going to be playing this for years probably
Re: Sony's Long Anticipated PS5, PS4 Showcase Could Be Scheduled for May
People said a showcase was coming all last year. Zero expectations.
Re: Spider-Man 2 PS5 Dev Asks for Patience As Fans Plead for Footage
@Americansamurai1 I remember people expecting a showcase all last year and nothing. You have to expect the bare minimum from Sony these days,wouldn’t surprise me if Spider-Man is the only first party game this whole year.
Re: Sony Quietly Raises the Price of PlayStation Games on Steam in Select Regions
@C25CLOUD and this acceptance mentality is exactly why nothing will change. Enjoy the inevitable $100 because people on console except anything.
Re: Sony Quietly Raises the Price of PlayStation Games on Steam in Select Regions
@RonnieL There are still tons of people who damaged controlled and and made excuses for it though. There are people who literally support Sony like they are their parents and not a billion dollar corporation,and it’s embarrassing and does damage to gaming as whole.
Re: Sony Quietly Raises the Price of PlayStation Games on Steam in Select Regions
Greed has been Sonys motto this whole generation. I bet if they raise game prices again on console another 10 dollars fanboys would say nothing
Re: Scalped PS5 Prices Plummet as Retail Stock Surges
I know scalpers who have sold hundreds to thousands of these on eBay from 700-1000 dollars. They got their money already a long time ago. People thinking they have lost anything are delusional.
Re: Bungie Taking 'Breach of Trust' Within Destiny 2 Creator Community 'Extremely Seriously'
@djlard the older you get the harder that is, everything is doing their own thing. Some move, some have kids, some work too much etc.
Playing online is 10x more convenient.
Re: Bungie Taking 'Breach of Trust' Within Destiny 2 Creator Community 'Extremely Seriously'
@djlard probably not boring if you have a crew to play with frequently
Re: UK Sales Charts: God of War Ragnarok, Gran Turismo 7 Rep PlayStation in Quiet Week
@4kgk2 someone satisfied with 2 games, one of which is not even from Sony’s first party sounds like a casual to me. That’s literally nothing compared to the PS3 or PS2 era, that’s bare minimum.
Go back and look what was released for PS2 in 2003. Like 50 games.
Re: UK Sales Charts: God of War Ragnarok, Gran Turismo 7 Rep PlayStation in Quiet Week
@KaijuKaiser and what exactly are you playing on PlayStation right now? Guarantee it’s either a multiplat or an old game, because Sony has released basically nothing this year worth playing.
They have nothing but Spider-Man and FF16 which is a third party game, and will be on PC in no time. This is another lackluster year, and anyone actually paying attention sees that.
Re: UK Sales Charts: God of War Ragnarok, Gran Turismo 7 Rep PlayStation in Quiet Week
@UltimateOtaku91 Sorry for not going along with the hivemind praising this company for the tiniest of things. Plenty do that already
Re: UK Sales Charts: God of War Ragnarok, Gran Turismo 7 Rep PlayStation in Quiet Week
@UltimateOtaku91 @KaijuKaiser
Where in my post did I mention specifically Sony? Your response says more about you than me, that you immediately rush to defend them when Nintendo had games on the list too like Minecraft.
Re: UK Sales Charts: God of War Ragnarok, Gran Turismo 7 Rep PlayStation in Quiet Week
@MayaMousavi ok, and how many actual copies are the games selling? They don’t actually reveal numbers. Back in the day in the PS3/360 era they used to say REAL NUMBERS.
Re: Media Molecule Co-Founder Exits Following Dreams' Live Support Stoppage
@KaijuKaiser Japanese games went from being a focus of PlayStation to a complete afterthought. What did you expect, everyone to be silent and just accept whatever Sony does? Since you care about sales the most I’m sure you’ll love their live service games.
Re: Media Molecule Co-Founder Exits Following Dreams' Live Support Stoppage
@AdamNovice Sackboy was a run of the mill platformer inferior to LBP, Astro was a pack in tech demo and Destruction all stars was mid. This is how low the bar is now, it doesn’t even remotely compare to their PS3 output yet alone PS2 or PS1. NEW IP’s like crazy, not just endless sequels from the previous generation like now.
Re: Media Molecule Co-Founder Exits Following Dreams' Live Support Stoppage
@KaijuKaiser we will shut up when Sony produces games like that.(they won’t though , Gravity Rush was the closet thing and they shut down the studio.)
Didn’t sea of thieves become a smash hit on Steam also?
Re: Media Molecule Co-Founder Exits Following Dreams' Live Support Stoppage
@KaijuKaiser Where is the PlayStation equivalent of Hi Fi Rush? Oh wait, modern Sony will never produce Japanese games like that again.
Re: UK Sales Charts: God of War Ragnarok, Gran Turismo 7 Rep PlayStation in Quiet Week
I would love to actually see real numbers of how many copies these games are selling. How do we not know a game can sell like 5K copies and chart? It’s all trickery and manipulation tbh.
Re: State of Play Showcase Set for Thursday, Final Fantasy 16 the Focus
Sony does the bare minimum nowadays.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing God of War Ragnarok's New Game Plus?
This game bored me personally. On a mechanical level there should have been more new things.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Really Is Targeting 2024 Release Date
Sony has been all about extracting every dollar. PS5 pro is on brand with Jim Ryan leadership
Re: PlayStation Fans Are Totally Torn Over PS5 Pro
When they are putting out $200 dollar controllers, $600 headset, ps premium, and charged $70 for a remake and all PS5 games regardless of scope I absolutely believe it. Sony has been all about milking their fans for everything and a lot of blind consumers will buy it.
Re: Flagship First-Party Naughty Dog Will Develop for PS5 and PC Moving Forwards
@Arnna "releasing one first-party AAA title to PC doesn't necessarily mean that every game now will come to PC"
Meanwhile they are actually working on PC ports of every game behind the scenes. At least Microsoft was honest, Sony moves like shady scumbags.
Re: Flagship First-Party Naughty Dog Will Develop for PS5 and PC Moving Forwards
@jrt87 Selling it wouldn’t change the fact they were purposely deceptive with their marketing in many ways. They sold their console based on “ exclusives” which they know have pc ports in development. Maybe you are fine being lied to, but I will hold them accountable. My PS5 is just a glorified PS4 archive.
I bought every single console since 2000 except series x because it has no exclusives. And it’s not a coincidence it’s dead last every month and people are selling it below retail price.
Re: Flagship First-Party Naughty Dog Will Develop for PS5 and PC Moving Forwards
@Arnna we spent our hard earned money on this console because Sony bragged about their exclusives. Why should we not be annoyed with their deception?
This whole generation was a waste of time and a giant cash grab.
Re: Flagship First-Party Naughty Dog Will Develop for PS5 and PC Moving Forwards
PS5 was a giant marketing scam and nothing else. Worst console I ever bought, even Xbox One had more exclusives.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: PS5 Is Slowing But Still Soaring
@extragood they want people to double dip
Re: Talking Point: Is 2024 Too Soon for PS5 Pro?
Consoles are exactly like IPhones and PC’s now. These companies know hardcore fanboys will buy anything with their logo on it.
Re: WWE 2K23 (PS5) - 2K Sports' Wrestling Series Continues Its Steady Rise
@Acurisur Last years game was good though
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Targeting Potential 2024 Release
@NEStalgia and that’s just one reason of many reasons consoles are a shell of what they used to be along with everything being put on pc. Modern consoles are essentially cod and madden machines for kids and people who have no understanding of technology at all.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Targeting Potential 2024 Release
@ZonaiResearcher yes
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Targeting Potential 2024 Release
@OrtadragoonX no, it was legit strong in general. You are vastly underselling the capabilities it had for a $300 console.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Targeting Potential 2024 Release
@NEStalgia it’s how MODERN consoles work. The original Xbox was an absolute beast and so was the PS3. We will never get that again.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Targeting Potential 2024 Release
@OrtadragoonX The original Xbox was stupid strong for it’s time
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Targeting Potential 2024 Release
PS5 is not strong in 2023. If it was, it wouldn’t still have to compromise to get 60fps. it’s 2019 technology, 2 gpu generations behind.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Targeting Potential 2024 Release
I believe it honestly. Easy double dip from hardcore fanboys.
Re: Surprise! Forspoken and Other Square Enix Games Didn't Meet Sales Expectations
Fanboys told me the game did well.
Re: Sony Has Approximately $5 Billion Left for Acquisitions and Investments
People are so delusional here making ridiculous demands. They think Sony has infinite money and everyone is desperate to sell.
Re: European Union Likely to Pass Xbox's $69 Billion Buyout of Activision
@thefourfoldroot1 VR isn’t even a new concept itself though at this point. And how many PS5 owners even have the money to buy it?