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@DogPark I remember when people said similar about call of duty as early as 2010 when black ops lol. Sports games have lasted even longer.

@UltimateOtaku91 single player games will always exist, but the fact that even Nintendo is actually putting effort into online stuff and their most successful games have a multiplayer component says a lot. Even they think it’s important now.

@LuXifer I mean that’s already been happening, I know people who used to basically play nothing but call of duty and halo back in the 360 era nothing else really besides maybe gta and sports games

@UltimateOtaku91 cherry picked games. What about Mario Kart that has multiplayer and sold more than all of those,or Splatoon or even Smash Bros or Animal Crossing that people play with friends.

Nintendo’s most popular games have a social element

@AlexPorto Stellar Blade only sold a million copies,that’s nothing for any major company. Also plenty of single player games didn’t sell enough,look at hi Fi rush and Rebirth

Hilarious how $50 is a “sale” nowadays

Nobody except the most zealot fans will buy this. $700 to play a bunch of games anyone that has really cared about already bought and played and multiplats.

If you have a regular ps5 you already spent $500 minimum. $1200 dollars on console hardware with nothing to really show for it besides a handful of games that will all be on pc anyway.

@Dragon83 it’s going to be way less than that this time. Saying that as a PS4 Pro owner,zero interest in this.

Hardcore Sony fans were going to buy this no matter what,the general public still doesn’t like it

@PuppetMaster 5 million for death stranding is mid at best for how much the game was hyped, even if it turned a profit.

Devil May Cry 5 sold like 8 million with far less marketing and budget. Even Street Fighter sold 4 million copies in a little over a year and a half. Honestly AAA games should be reaching close to 10 million lifetime at this point.

And Astrobot might have outsold ratchet,but like 11 million people had a ps5 back then. 60 million have it now and it only sold 20% more with a 6x bigger playerbase

@Maubari lol don’t see how it’s ignorant when I can actually defend my position…you just don’t like the result.

“Sold quite well” where’s the raw numbers to show that? Sony hasn’t said a peep and this is exactly what people said about rebirth. It turned a profit but it’s not a smash hit.

@Keyblade-Dan I don’t have anything against the game, but the way some people are acting you would swear this game is carrying PlayStation

@Milt like almost every new release with any type of buzz? It’s not hard for new games to get on that list…lasting is the hard part.When old GTA can top the uk charts that’s not good sign,that means the industry is weak.

@Pranwell closer to 99% than the 1% he claimed.

People are already selling these pre orders on eBay

Astro bot is “holding steady” but it originally barely sold anything so it’s not that meaningful.

@Ribbitsneed it probably made a profit but people thinking it’s a huge hit are delusional.

@Andy22385 closer to 99% than 1, people are already dumping these

That Juno skin is literally a perfect mashup

Sold to scalpers.

remaster remake multiplat show!

@PuppetMaster Wukong being from china is 100% a reason for it's success...the whole county supported it. Plenty of other "good games" didn't sell anywhere near as much like rebirth. Lies of P was a similar game, sold nowhere near that.

For an AAA game, selling 1-2 million copies is a failure but it's a success for these level games.

multiplats and remasters

@PuppetMaster 1 million copies isn't that much for bigger games...assassin's creed will probably outsell all those games except wukong, and that game was successful largely because of china.

The fact that gta is the number 1 selling game this long with all the newest games this year shows people in the uk aren’t even buying games like that. Market is on life support besides fifa and cod.

I personally got bored of this game quickly. The game came out when people were starved for games,it got boosted.

@QiaraIris base roster

They actually delivered with the roster,I wanted GT and the movies more than anything. I’ll take the compromises.

@KawakiisaFraud those games cost way less to make and aren’t even AAA. People saying the “expectations are too high” are not even looking at the market at all,they’re stuck in the past where a game selling 2-3 million is a lot when it’s not at this point.

This is why they are doing pc ports but people don’t want to see the truth.

Ragnarok was mid…arguably smallest leap in the series

FF16 probably hasn't even sold 4 million yet. That's not really that high expectations for a game they put a lot of marketing into, when it sold 3 million upfront.

Legs were just terrible.

They should remaster everything, it's basically free money from the hardcore PlayStation audience.

This was obvious for a while based on the charts but a lot of people were in deep denial. Both these games fell off quick had weak legs.

This isn’t 1995..

10 million ps5 in 2021 vs 60 million in 2024

@somnambulance that will never happenen as long as SSJ4 exist.

You can tell a lot of commentators never actually played this series before lol

$60 is going to be hard sell

@ChrisDeku Bayonetta needed to be multiplat again series can be way bigger than it is.

my point with ratchet is not gonna keep that pace. It’s going to be significantly down. It’s not going to sell 1.5 in 12 months ever again,like I said maybe a couple hundred thousand sold best case.

Returnal also proves my point way more people have PS5’s now yet the games sales haven’t risen that much at all,even the pc port did not help. Most of those 100+ million don’t care about anything other than cod gta madden fifa fortnite etc

@ChrisDeku
Bayonetta 3 had zero legs, the game didn’t perform that well long term. 1 million on switch isn’t impressive when the console has games selling 20-60 million copies.

Rise of the Ronin outperformed this game, definitely sold more than 1 million…

Returnal selling 5 million? Lol It struggled to sell a million and didn’t sell well on pc, where is the influx of users going to come from to push it that high? Games like ratchet are only selling like a couple hundred thousands best case a year not millions.

Also the PS4 era was a different time, this generation is playing out differently when it comes to people actually buying games. All these smaller exclusive games need pc ports now.

no wonder Sony is doing more gaas, helldivers was more successful than all the games discussed combined.

Probably a day 1 buy for me

@DennisReynolds it might have turned a profit but it’s not a smash hit. I’m actually surprised Ronin has outsold it,some people were saying this was gonna sell more than rebirth too lol

casuals don’t want to spend $70 on these types of games.

@ChrisDeku Bayonetta 3 was a flop so that’s not comforting at all…1 million is not strong 2024. Returnal didn’t keep selling nor did demon souls or ratchet,or sackboy only their biggest games keep selling.

@LikelySatan No disrespect, but it’s just seems like you’re not open to the series doing anything different that wasn’t exactly how it was in the early 90’s…

Like to not like ANY of the music beyond the genesis era? Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 osts rank pretty highly among the general gaming public not just sonic fans,and they’ve done tons of different stuff like with unleashed musically.

Sonic and Characters like Ratchet and Sly Cooper talking was just a natural result of gaming evolving. I don’t see why bugs bunny and TMNT can speak but not sonic lol

@LikelySatan have you not played any sonic game since the adventure era ones? lol they haven’t used crush 40 in a major game since like 2009(unleashed didn’t have them either)

And the cast was basically sidelined for like 15 years after 06 ,they never had any major roles.

Sonic colors in particular would probably be your taste since it’s just Sonic but to me that’s boring when many other characters are more interesting.

@Telepole506 not the majority of people who matter

Sounds like BS to me. This already sold 3 million copies? Why haven’t they said actual sales?

Still pretty much nothing in comparison to the thousands of games on those consoles

I think Astro bot will flop at $70. Competition is fierce. If I was going to buy a game for kids I’d get sonic x shadow generations for $50 and it’s two games in one. A lot of people gonna buy sparking zero too.

I wish it was a traditional action game

I like the contrast between the characters