@PuppetMaster define “well”. These are average numbers at best. Especially for a 94 meta game,that everyone on the internet said they “wanted more of”, yet only like 1 in 60 PS5 owners bought the game.
Any half decent game with a name can sell a million copies these days,that’s the floor now.
@dark_knightmare2 1.5 million sales isn’t a hit by any metric and I’ve never heard Sony call this game a hit. It already fell off every chart, so what legs?
@AverageGamer So did the 3DS which sold less than the original.
@LowDefAl You could say there were reasons,but they were still on a downwards trajectory for multiple generations in a row. Nintendo isn’t as invincible as many think.
@HotGoomba Every Nintendo console from the NES to SNES to N64 to GC all sold less than the last until the Wii..which died early because most people bought games on PS3 and 360 and the hardcore audience was done with motion controls by 2010. The Wii's legacy as a whole is questionable honestly.
They would have sold enough consoles to justify it, but not 147 million worth or whatever the switch sold. They merged the console and handheld audience together and it was a "new" thing. I personally think switch 2 will decline like the nes to snes in sales.
I actually agreed with the ign score the more I played it. Light on content and modes. boring story and needed more polish and time overall. They wanted out with Daima.
@Flaming_Kaiser Why would I cry? I never argued quality,I’m arguing sales. 60+ million ps5 owners,how many supported the game?
It sold 12K in Japan, but that was “good” numbers and the “best the console could do”,yet metaphor completely proved that wrong. And it’s a new ip so you can’t even use that excuse.
@PuppetMaster people fishing for engagement on Twitter are not “capable” people. And again,these people have literally been wrong before. They say what people want to hear mostly so they don’t get backlash and get followers, this is a hustle.
It’s the opposite actually, people like a game so much they’ll do anything to say it was successful. That’s exactly what happened to final fantasy(look at what this cherry picked guy on Twitter said, it sold well!)
@Maubari lol I was actually hyped beyond belief for this game. Graphics look good voice acting is good but almost everything else needed more polishing
@QiaraIris what proof do you have the “majority” of players think this in an Xbox exclusive? This is an atlus game…anyone with basic logic should understand why that’s unlikely. Imagine being JRPG player and having trouble finding out what platform a game is on that was announced MONTHS ago. That’s a weak excuse.
The game just isn’t that appealing right now in a stacked month with big games releasing. Maybe Altus shouldn’t have chosen to release a game the month that Dragon Ball, Call of Duty, and Sonic x Shadow are releasing.
@UltimateOtaku91 single player games will always exist, but the fact that even Nintendo is actually putting effort into online stuff and their most successful games have a multiplayer component says a lot. Even they think it’s important now.
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Re: Younger Gamers Cited as One Reason for MGS Delta: Snake Eater Remake
Should have remade the first game
Re: PS5 Pro Pre-Orders Are Stronger Than PS4 Pro, But Scalpers Are Losing Money
That means nothing for long term sales though. It will sell significantly less than PS4 Pro
Re: Astro Bot Sells 1.5 Million PS5 Copies Inside Nine Weeks
@PuppetMaster define “well”. These are average numbers at best. Especially for a 94 meta game,that everyone on the internet said they “wanted more of”, yet only like 1 in 60 PS5 owners bought the game.
Any half decent game with a name can sell a million copies these days,that’s the floor now.
Re: Astro Bot Sells 1.5 Million PS5 Copies Inside Nine Weeks
@dark_knightmare2 1.5 million sales isn’t a hit by any metric and I’ve never heard Sony call this game a hit. It already fell off every chart, so what legs?
In 2024 that’s not impressive numbers.
Re: Hypnotic PS5 Pro Boot Screen, Background Worth the Upgrade
Just a PS3 theme from 2010
Re: Poll: Did You Buy a PS5 Pro?
i'm good, i see nothing worth playing on it to buy it
Re: Sony Says the Best Time to Get a PS5 Is Now
Best time to get it was at launch where it was a much better value for $500. You’re paying that for 4 year old hardware now
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 (PS5) - The Strongest Return to FPS Form
Push square commentators told me the series was dead under Microsoft
Re: PS5 Pro Is Not Compatible with PS5 Slim Face Plates
Done on purpose
Re: UK Sales Charts: Call of Duty Remains Steady on PS5, PS4 Despite Black Ops 6's Xbox Game Pass Inclusion
@Ravix if you’re on a budget but still want to try the latest cod, the price is pretty palatable. A lot of old players came back.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Enjoys the Series' Biggest Launch in Years
@ATaco pc has gamepass also
Re: UK Sales Charts: Call of Duty Remains Steady on PS5, PS4 Despite Black Ops 6's Xbox Game Pass Inclusion
That’s great for people who want to play on gamepass. Also I think people are underestimating how many people on PC got it there.
Re: TV Show Review: Like a Dragon: Yakuza - Generic Japanese Crime Caper Doesn't Do SEGA Franchise Justice
Sorry but that’s a mid Kiryu who’s not believable
Re: Gotta Sell Fast! Sonic X Shadow Generations Has Already Surpassed 1 Million Copies Sold
Going to sell multiple millions. Especially when the movie drops
Re: Xbox Fans Really Want a Port of PS5, PC Hit Helldivers 2
Game is unironically a good fit for Xbox since shooters are the no1 genre on it always been.
Re: Sep 2024 USA Sales: Astro Bot PS5 a Top Seller, Only FC 25 Above It
How is NBA 2K that low?
Re: Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown Team Mostly 'Shifted to Other Projects', Ubisoft Confirms
Push Square commentators told me only live service games fail and that games like this are what “people” want.
Re: Sonic X Shadow Generations (PS5) - Shadow the Star of This Splendid Platforming Package
I think from a value perspective it deserves a 9. Sonic Generations alone is already a 8.
Re: Some Marvel's Spider-Man 2 PS5 Fans Are Furious It's Not Getting DLC
Spider-Man has already been oversaturated to me personally
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Web Swings to PC in January 2025
@AverageGamer So did the 3DS which sold less than the original.
@LowDefAl You could say there were reasons,but they were still on a downwards trajectory for multiple generations in a row. Nintendo isn’t as invincible as many think.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Web Swings to PC in January 2025
@HotGoomba Every Nintendo console from the NES to SNES to N64 to GC all sold less than the last until the Wii..which died early because most people bought games on PS3 and 360 and the hardcore audience was done with motion controls by 2010. The Wii's legacy as a whole is questionable honestly.
They would have sold enough consoles to justify it, but not 147 million worth or whatever the switch sold. They merged the console and handheld audience together and it was a "new" thing. I personally think switch 2 will decline like the nes to snes in sales.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Web Swings to PC in January 2025
@truerbluer Nintendo had to make a hybrid to be successful,the last true console they had was arguably the biggest failure in like 30 years
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Web Swings to PC in January 2025
Faster and Faster ports this game will be a year and some months lol
Re: Japan Sales Charts: PS5 Software Actually Sells for Once
@Flaming_Kaiser because if you want more of these games you like, they need to actually sell?
I learned that lesson from gravity rush and plenty of other games.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Dragon Ball: Sparking! Zero?
I actually agreed with the ign score the more I played it. Light on content and modes. boring story and needed more polish and time overall. They wanted out with Daima.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: PS5 Software Actually Sells for Once
@Flaming_Kaiser Why would I cry? I never argued quality,I’m arguing sales. 60+ million ps5 owners,how many supported the game?
It sold 12K in Japan, but that was “good” numbers and the “best the console could do”,yet metaphor completely proved that wrong. And it’s a new ip so you can’t even use that excuse.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: PS5 Software Actually Sells for Once
@PuppetMaster people fishing for engagement on Twitter are not “capable” people. And again,these people have literally been wrong before. They say what people want to hear mostly so they don’t get backlash and get followers, this is a hustle.
It’s the opposite actually, people like a game so much they’ll do anything to say it was successful. That’s exactly what happened to final fantasy(look at what this cherry picked guy on Twitter said, it sold well!)
Re: Japan Sales Charts: PS5 Software Actually Sells for Once
@PuppetMaster show me actual sales numbers that prove that and not cherry picked statistics like it sold more in Europe on launch…
Same people saying “It sold well” said Rebirth also sold well and FF16. Also define “well”, 1 million? 2 million? We don’t know.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: PS5 Software Actually Sells for Once
@LowDefAl Yep these numbers show people damaged controlled Astro sales hard in Japan. 12K obviously wasn’t good.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Showcases the Problem with Sony's Games on PS5 Pro
Most devs not going to bother with this
Re: Dragon Ball: Sparking! Zero Goes Nuclear, Sells Over 3 Million Copies in First 24 Hours
@Maubari lol I was actually hyped beyond belief for this game. Graphics look good voice acting is good but almost everything else needed more polishing
Re: Dragon Ball: Sparking! Zero Goes Nuclear, Sells Over 3 Million Copies in First 24 Hours
@CielloArc FF16 sold 3 million and I don’t even think reached 4 million for an AAA game after a year. Is that really too high expectations?
Re: Dragon Ball: Sparking! Zero Goes Nuclear, Sells Over 3 Million Copies in First 24 Hours
@PsBoxSwitchOwner @LifeGirl Plenty of good games don’t sell well, look at Deadspace and Rebirth.
And honestly this game has a lot of issues people are overlooking because of the honeymoon period and nostalgia.
Re: Acclaimed PS5 Platformer Astro Bot Really Couldn't Be Selling Any Better
I’m still waiting for actual copies sold and not these cherry picked statistics. People did this for FF16 also.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Dragon Ball: Sparking! Zero?
Best Buy messed up my order, no clue when the game is actually coming. Guess I’ll be playing metaphor this weekend.
Re: Aug 2024 USA Sales: Console Sales Take a Sharp Decline, But PS5 Is Still King
PS5 hype is over,not special or “new” anymore.
Re: Metaphor: ReFantazio Immediately Tops 1 Million Sales at Launch
Think it would have sold even more if this month wasn’t so packed.
Re: LittleBigPlanet 3 Will Be Taken Off PS Store on 31st October
This game was a letdown,a buggy mess on launch
Re: PS5's Astro Bot Is Having a Much Better Launch Than Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart in the UK
@Vivisapprentice it probably made a profit but the sales aren’t that impressive to them to announce.
Re: Round Up: Dragon Ball: Sparking! Zero PS5 Reviews Go Super Saiyan
@McTwist we haven’t gotten a game like this since 2017 which was xenoverse…and xenoverse had a different concept with the created character.
Kakarot was literally an action adventure/rpg game and released in 2020….Dragon Ball fighterz came out in 2018 and was a 2D fighter.
Re: Round Up: Dragon Ball: Sparking! Zero PS5 Reviews Go Super Saiyan
7/10 seem low, dude must not be a big fan.
Re: Deals: Not Feeling the PS5 Pro? PS5 Slim Consoles Are Currently $50/£50 Off
That’s what It should cost.
Re: Metaphor: ReFantazio (PS5) - Brilliant, Memorable RPG Is One of Atlus' Finest Works
Thought this was just ok untill I met the captain and that plotline started expanding. Probably getting it on sale.
Re: PS5 Pro Boost Is Pretty Clear Cut in The Last of Us 2 Remastered Comparison Video
@zebric21 I’ve noticed that. The Base PS5 was the greatest thing to mankind,now it’s suddenly not good enough and we MUST have a pro console.
Literally trashing the previous to make the next thing look better. I’ve seen this with PS4 as well
Re: Atlus Fans Don't Think Xbox's Marketing Is Doing Metaphor: ReFantazio Justice
@QiaraIris what proof do you have the “majority” of players think this in an Xbox exclusive? This is an atlus game…anyone with basic logic should understand why that’s unlikely. Imagine being JRPG player and having trouble finding out what platform a game is on that was announced MONTHS ago. That’s a weak excuse.
The game just isn’t that appealing right now in a stacked month with big games releasing. Maybe Altus shouldn’t have chosen to release a game the month that Dragon Ball, Call of Duty, and Sonic x Shadow are releasing.
Re: Atlus Fans Don't Think Xbox's Marketing Is Doing Metaphor: ReFantazio Justice
Mightykeef is a known Sony fanboy…Yakuza was marketed by Xbox and so was Persona 3 Reload,where were sales impacted?
The name of the game is terrible and people don’t even know what the game “is”
Re: Dragon Ball: Sparking! Zero PS5 Pre-Orders Tracking Above Call of Duty on PS Store
Sparking will be huge but bo6 will pick up later
Re: Upcoming PS5 Games for October and November 2024
Sonic X shadow, Sparking Zero, and Black Ops 6 on gamepass for me day 1 anyway
Re: Ever-Evolving, Live Service Experiences Like Fortnite Are 'the Future of Gaming'
@DogPark I remember when people said similar about call of duty as early as 2010 when black ops lol. Sports games have lasted even longer.
Re: Ever-Evolving, Live Service Experiences Like Fortnite Are 'the Future of Gaming'
@UltimateOtaku91 single player games will always exist, but the fact that even Nintendo is actually putting effort into online stuff and their most successful games have a multiplayer component says a lot. Even they think it’s important now.