@UltimateOtaku91 I feel for this guy. Arrowhead are a relatively small dev. They've been around for a while, but the levels of success they've reached recently, it happened so fast. He's probably used to dealing with a small dedicated community, rather than the massive community Helldivers 2 has attracted.
@naruball @Deityjester
The only time I've had racism directed at me when playing online was, by chance, when playing Halo. It happened twice.
But I'd never assume XBOX is the only platform it happens on. I'm sure the only reason it hasn't happened to me on PSN is because I learned to mute my mic so they can't mock my accent.
I'm not trying to derail the conversation here btw. Just agreeing with naruball on the confirmation bias comment.
@Ricky63 I like the first party stuff, bit I'm not missing them right now. There's just too much to play.
As you say, the games are coming in droves. If there was a new Uncharted game out this month I wouldn't have the time to play it.
@PS3Gamer Sammy gets slammed for being negative about PlayStation, and he gets slammed for pointing out when a community reaction is overblown. I don't always agree with him, but to my recollection I don't think he has ever gone out of his way to he condescending.
"I payed this much for a pc to avoid those playstationers, do not force me to mingle with their kind."
An actual negative "review" that I just read on the steam page.
I mean there is a legit reason to be annoyed by this if you live in a country where PSN is not available (although I'm sure there are workarounds), but I don't know if this is a parody review or a legit opinion.
Let's see what the total player count is tonight. Because if the Hogwarts boycott thought us anything, it was... definitely something.
@Voltan That's fair. I hadn't considered that.
It was no secret that this would be a requirement, but I wonder if there's a legit workaround. Like making this mandatory only in regions where PSN is available. It would be a shame to cut out players based on geography.
@UltimateOtaku91 Outrage culture in general. There was always going to be something that turned players against this game. I've been waiting since launch to see what it would be.
Edit: I wonder if there's somewhere we can place bets on things like this 🤔💸
Just a few weeks ago PSN trophies on PC was a good thing, no? How did people think that was going to work?
If I ever find the time to play Sea of Thieves I'm fully expecting to have to link my XBOX account. Just be smart with your passwords and thank feck for GDPR, or whatever equivalent of that you might have.
Too bad. It's not a franchise that I follow but I can understand the disappointment.
For myself, I'm still regularly dropping into Moss II, GT7, No Man's Sky, Horizon and Legendary Tales on my PSVR2. I haven't started Arizona Sunshine II yet, and Behemoth is still lurking around somewhere. There's plenty to play there.
I wouldn't complain if Half-Life: Alyx made the jump though...
I'll be surprised if Bethesda's main IP (TES, Fallout, Starfield) don't all continue to release on PlayStation maybe a year after they launch on GamePass. Avowed and future Diablo games too. These are the most obvious ones I think.
Other than those franchises the other one that I'm most eager to try is Sea of Thieves, but between Helldivers and the rest of my backlog I just don't have the time for it.
@get2sammyb I'd love to see Flight Sim make the jump, yeah. It's such a chill time.
@rjejr Ah true, true.
They'll keep making those titles for Switch I'm sure.
I remember the DLC for XV. I didn't love that game in general, but I was hoping for that final DLC to round out the ending. Was really disappointing when it was cancelled.
As for FF VII Part 3, you can bet Sony will fund it if needed.
They definitely put resources and/or funding into the other two games. They show up in the credits for both.
They were talking about doing this last year weren't they? I don't think it has anything to do with the sales of Rebirth.
I was wondering what the outcome of this process would be. Hopefully it doesn't mean the end of Octopath Traveller and the likes on console and PC.
1) Those who are convinced that it was/was not censorship.
2) Those who are yet to be convinced one way or the other. (🤚).
3) Those who insult rather than engage with a different opinion.
4) Those who troll.
5) Those light-hearted individuals who love to post funny comments regardless of the topic and who keep the rest of us grounded and humble (@Hoodie718 😂😂).
I don't think anyone is happy to be dictated to or told what to think (hence the state of the world atm).
Personally it seems to me like a last minute design choice.
But I won't know that for certain until they patch the costumes. If they patch them. The fact that they are discussing it internally suggests that they might.
Dev has stated that this was a decision they made themselves.
Dev has also stated that they are having internal conversations about this.
Everyone thinks everyone is lying these days, but it's always felt to me like this was a last minute design choice, especially given that there are other revealing suits that have not been edited.
They'll either switch it back or add a toggle to switch between both versions of both suits in an upcoming patch, and that will be that.
Still FF VII Rebirth. I'm doing the Brutal combat challenges atm. I think I have a materia combo figured out that sorts most of the fights. After that I'll be continuing my Hard Mode run.
Mine came early yesterday too, but I'm in the middle of my FF VII Rebirth hard mode run, and I'll be playing Dragon's Dogma II after that so it might be another month or two before I start Stellar Blade.
That said, FF has been a huge game. Stellar Blade might a be a good palette cleanse before I start DD II.
Fallout 4 cost €5.00 there for a few days, so that didn't do any harm. I thought I was done with that franchise too but the TV show was really enjoyable and reminded me of what I loved about the lore back in the day.
I started playing 4 again last night, but I'll probably leave it for now until I'm done with the backlog.
Smart move. And really the only option for them atm.
Either it works out which is great, or, it makes selling large chunks of what's left easier later.
Hopefully that name means some Lord of the Rings projects are underway.
I'd kill for a good Lord of the Rings clone of Vermintide or a new RTS. I'd ask for a big RPG but I just don't think it will ever happen.
@UltimateOtaku91 That one game where players were rewarded for groping the girls is what comes to my mind every time this conversation comes up.
I remember being concerned about the censorship too, until I saw what they were censoring.
The only mistake they made there was that they started doing this at a time when everyone is screaming "stop telling me how to live and what to think!" at everyone else.
@Martijn87 100% agree with everything you just said. I would only add that FF is a series that became known for mixing it up and trying new things with each entry a long time ago. It's never been one to sit still. So when people are disappointed that a new game is not like an old game I see where they are coming from, but that's generally how FF has been done for a long time now. Something new and different each time.
I don't think there's been a main series game other than XI that I didn't finish. XV was disappointing as you say, and for the reason that you mentioned, but that's it really.
@colonelkilgore Consoles are safe. I still believe that dedicated hardware for our games won't vanish until we live in a world where Shangri-La Frontier or the holodeck can actually happen.
This move by Sony is just so games that they publish are always in their ecosystem no matter where they are played.
@Cloud39472 Ugh. Don't jynx us. I'm excited for the Pro now, but I'm not looking forward to the anxiety of queuing up online and hoping to beat those plonkers.
@Hamst88 Saaaaaame. Once I hit 40 my perspectives changed on a lot of things. I was doing those piano mission in FF VII wondering how much longer my fingers will be able for games like that.
@Judal27 If you've never played a FF game before and World of FF is going to be your first experience, let me tell you that it's nothing like the main games in the series. It's one of the many countless spin-offs that the franchise has generated over the decades.
So if you don't like it, rest assured that it's not a game by which the series should be judged.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, this is the main reason why I'll never use any sub service as the primary method for playing my games. If the platform holder doesn't own the IP it's never going to stay there forever.
I enjoy the transmog in FF XIV and I use it all the time. I had never considered it for Helldivers though. Options are nice to have, but I can live without it.
Any light armour + the shield generator, this is still my go to setup.
Edit: Some Ratchet and Clank decals for my helmet or mech would be fun.
@Nei I just did that yday.
It's an absolute troll of a fight.
I went into it completely unprepared, raged for a bit, then I remembered Cloud had the level 2 Elemental materia...
I think with Marvel games I'm good with whatever Insomniac cooks up. Spidey 3, Wolverine and that X-Men game they're doing would excite me, but everything else I can skip.
@AdamNovice I have to say the same. As I get in to the later chapters I really feel like I'm playing an evolved version of something from the 90s Squaresoft days.
I'm enjoying it and I'm happy that my first playthrough has taken 120 hours so far because I don't want it to end.
I can only speculate that the factors mentioned by @ShogunRok are in play here, and that the game will have legs.
We mentioned before that we'll have to wait until Christmas to get an idea of how well Dragon's Dogma, FF VII and Rise of the Ronin will have really done.
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Re: Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement Backtracked on PC After Brutal Review Bombing Campaign
@ChrisDeku Or 1000 super credits. I'd bet my mortgage on it.
@puddinggirl Honestly I always suspect everything is a PR exercise of some kind.
Even if it's just, "Let's see how they react to this."
Re: Sony Doubles Down on Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement by Taking It Off Sale for PC in Numerous Countries
@UltimateOtaku91 I feel for this guy.
Arrowhead are a relatively small dev. They've been around for a while, but the levels of success they've reached recently, it happened so fast.
He's probably used to dealing with a small dedicated community, rather than the massive community Helldivers 2 has attracted.
Fair play to him for owning this.
Re: Sony Doubles Down on Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement by Taking It Off Sale for PC in Numerous Countries
@naruball @Deityjester
The only time I've had racism directed at me when playing online was, by chance, when playing Halo. It happened twice.
But I'd never assume XBOX is the only platform it happens on. I'm sure the only reason it hasn't happened to me on PSN is because I learned to mute my mic so they can't mock my accent.
I'm not trying to derail the conversation here btw. Just agreeing with naruball on the confirmation bias comment.
Re: Talking Point: Have Sony's Third-Party PS5 Deals Made Up for Its Lack of First-Party Games?
@Ricky63 I like the first party stuff, bit I'm not missing them right now. There's just too much to play.
As you say, the games are coming in droves. If there was a new Uncharted game out this month I wouldn't have the time to play it.
Re: Helldivers 2 PC Is Getting Review Bombed Over PSN Requirement
@PS3Gamer Sammy gets slammed for being negative about PlayStation, and he gets slammed for pointing out when a community reaction is overblown.
I don't always agree with him, but to my recollection I don't think he has ever gone out of his way to he condescending.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 527
Re: Helldivers 2 PC Is Getting Review Bombed Over PSN Requirement
"I payed this much for a pc to avoid those playstationers, do not force me to mingle with their kind."
An actual negative "review" that I just read on the steam page.
I mean there is a legit reason to be annoyed by this if you live in a country where PSN is not available (although I'm sure there are workarounds), but I don't know if this is a parody review or a legit opinion.
Let's see what the total player count is tonight. Because if the Hogwarts boycott thought us anything, it was... definitely something.
Re: Helldivers 2 PC Players Blindsided by Seemingly Sudden PSN Account Requirement
@Voltan That's fair. I hadn't considered that.
It was no secret that this would be a requirement, but I wonder if there's a legit workaround. Like making this mandatory only in regions where PSN is available. It would be a shame to cut out players based on geography.
Re: Helldivers 2 PC Players Blindsided by Seemingly Sudden PSN Account Requirement
@UltimateOtaku91 Outrage culture in general. There was always going to be something that turned players against this game. I've been waiting since launch to see what it would be.
Edit: I wonder if there's somewhere we can place bets on things like this 🤔💸
Re: Helldivers 2 PC Players Blindsided by Seemingly Sudden PSN Account Requirement
Just a few weeks ago PSN trophies on PC was a good thing, no?
How did people think that was going to work?
If I ever find the time to play Sea of Thieves I'm fully expecting to have to link my XBOX account. Just be smart with your passwords and thank feck for GDPR, or whatever equivalent of that you might have.
Re: Ice Your Enemies with Helldivers 2's Latest Premium Warbond, Polar Patriots
Nice. I think I have enough points in PS Stars to pick up the currency for this too.
Perfeito.
Re: Brand New Batman: Arkham Game Is a VR Exclusive on Meta Quest 3
Too bad. It's not a franchise that I follow but I can understand the disappointment.
For myself, I'm still regularly dropping into Moss II, GT7, No Man's Sky, Horizon and Legendary Tales on my PSVR2. I haven't started Arizona Sunshine II yet, and Behemoth is still lurking around somewhere. There's plenty to play there.
I wouldn't complain if Half-Life: Alyx made the jump though...
Re: Talking Point: What's Next for Xbox Games on PS5, PS4?
I'll be surprised if Bethesda's main IP (TES, Fallout, Starfield) don't all continue to release on PlayStation maybe a year after they launch on GamePass. Avowed and future Diablo games too. These are the most obvious ones I think.
Other than those franchises the other one that I'm most eager to try is Sea of Thieves, but between Helldivers and the rest of my backlog I just don't have the time for it.
@get2sammyb I'd love to see Flight Sim make the jump, yeah.
It's such a chill time.
Re: Ghost of Tsushima's Crossplay Patch Has Somehow Ruined the Game with Stuttering
@Marceezy It looks brutal in the short vids there.
But they're working on it anyway. At worst they'll just have to roll it back.
I'll go back and play more Legends mode after it launches on PC. That should give the community a nice boost, and that mode is a lot of fun.
Re: Square Enix Game Cancellations Likely as Publisher Records $140 Million Loss in 'Content Disposal'
@rjejr Ah true, true.
They'll keep making those titles for Switch I'm sure.
I remember the DLC for XV. I didn't love that game in general, but I was hoping for that final DLC to round out the ending. Was really disappointing when it was cancelled.
As for FF VII Part 3, you can bet Sony will fund it if needed.
They definitely put resources and/or funding into the other two games. They show up in the credits for both.
Re: Square Enix Game Cancellations Likely as Publisher Records $140 Million Loss in 'Content Disposal'
They were talking about doing this last year weren't they? I don't think it has anything to do with the sales of Rebirth.
I was wondering what the outcome of this process would be. Hopefully it doesn't mean the end of Octopath Traveller and the likes on console and PC.
Re: Returnal Artbook and Graphic Novel Mark PS5 Game's Third Anniversary
Cool.
I love me a good artbook or a graphic novel. I'll be ordering.
Re: Rise of the Ronin PS5 Sales Beating the Nioh Series
I'm very eager to start it, but that 2024 backlog is in the way.
Re: Stellar Blade PS5 Fans Irate Over Alleged Censorship
@thefourfoldroot1
I was seeing it more as;
1) Those who are convinced that it was/was not censorship.
2) Those who are yet to be convinced one way or the other. (🤚).
3) Those who insult rather than engage with a different opinion.
4) Those who troll.
5) Those light-hearted individuals who love to post funny comments regardless of the topic and who keep the rest of us grounded and humble (@Hoodie718 😂😂).
I don't think anyone is happy to be dictated to or told what to think (hence the state of the world atm).
Personally it seems to me like a last minute design choice.
But I won't know that for certain until they patch the costumes.
If they patch them. The fact that they are discussing it internally suggests that they might.
Re: Stellar Blade PS5 Fans Irate Over Alleged Censorship
Everyone thinks everyone is lying these days, but it's always felt to me like this was a last minute design choice, especially given that there are other revealing suits that have not been edited.
They'll either switch it back or add a toggle to switch between both versions of both suits in an upcoming patch, and that will be that.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 526
Still FF VII Rebirth.
I'm doing the Brutal combat challenges atm.
I think I have a materia combo figured out that sorts most of the fights.
After that I'll be continuing my Hard Mode run.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Stellar Blade?
Mine came early yesterday too, but I'm in the middle of my FF VII Rebirth hard mode run, and I'll be playing Dragon's Dogma II after that so it might be another month or two before I start Stellar Blade.
That said, FF has been a huge game. Stellar Blade might a be a good palette cleanse before I start DD II.
Re: Microsoft 'Meeting Players Where They Are' as Xbox Games Among PS Store's Bestsellers
Fallout 4 cost €5.00 there for a few days, so that didn't do any harm. I thought I was done with that franchise too but the TV show was really enjoyable and reminded me of what I loved about the lore back in the day.
I started playing 4 again last night, but I'll probably leave it for now until I'm done with the backlog.
Re: Fallout 4 Next Gen Version Is Out Now on PS5, Xbox, and PC
Excellent. Looking forward to going back to this. I didn't realise it had been so long since it came out.
Hopefully this version fixes that bug where you can't launch the game if you have Wastelander Workshop and Automatron expansions installed together.
Re: Project Awakening Still Exists, Six Years After Its Stunning PS4 Reveal
This one has been on my wishlist since 2018.
What they described on the official site sounded like a lot of fun too.
Maybe one day...
Re: Embracer Group Is Now Splitting into Three Separate Companies
Smart move. And really the only option for them atm.
Either it works out which is great, or, it makes selling large chunks of what's left easier later.
Hopefully that name means some Lord of the Rings projects are underway.
I'd kill for a good Lord of the Rings clone of Vermintide or a new RTS. I'd ask for a big RPG but I just don't think it will ever happen.
Re: Fear Not, PS5 Exclusive Stellar Blade Remains Uncensored in All Regions
@UltimateOtaku91 That one game where players were rewarded for groping the girls is what comes to my mind every time this conversation comes up.
I remember being concerned about the censorship too, until I saw what they were censoring.
The only mistake they made there was that they started doing this at a time when everyone is screaming "stop telling me how to live and what to think!" at everyone else.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 525
Going to finish off the main story for FF VII Rebirth today.
Then I'll be doing it all again on Hard Mode.
Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 Heads Back to Medieval Europe on PS5
@Ravix I should probably just find some time to play the first game I guess 🤔
Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 Heads Back to Medieval Europe on PS5
I have the first but never got around to starting it.
This looks epic though.
Any idea if you need to play the first one to get the most out of this one?
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Final Fantasy 16: The Rising Tide?
@Martijn87 100% agree with everything you just said.
I would only add that FF is a series that became known for mixing it up and trying new things with each entry a long time ago. It's never been one to sit still.
So when people are disappointed that a new game is not like an old game I see where they are coming from, but that's generally how FF has been done for a long time now.
Something new and different each time.
I don't think there's been a main series game other than XI that I didn't finish. XV was disappointing as you say, and for the reason that you mentioned, but that's it really.
Re: Darkest Dungeon 2 Revealed for PS5, PS4 with a 15th July Release Date
Those without stomach for this place must move on.
Re: Sony Reveals PlayStation Overlay for PC Ports, Supports Trophies, Friends List
@colonelkilgore Consoles are safe. I still believe that dedicated hardware for our games won't vanish until we live in a world where Shangri-La Frontier or the holodeck can actually happen.
This move by Sony is just so games that they publish are always in their ecosystem no matter where they are played.
Re: Sony Takes Down PS5 Pro YouTube Leak, Suggesting It's All Legit
@Ravix Alas, it's not available here yet.
Although I do have a friend just across the border in the UK 🤔
That's the plan. Good shout.
Re: Sony Takes Down PS5 Pro YouTube Leak, Suggesting It's All Legit
@Cloud39472 I fully agree.
The scalpers and the people who buy from them, ruining it for the rest of us.
Re: Sony Takes Down PS5 Pro YouTube Leak, Suggesting It's All Legit
@Cloud39472 Ugh.
Don't jynx us.
I'm excited for the Pro now, but I'm not looking forward to the anxiety of queuing up online and hoping to beat those plonkers.
Re: Huge PS Plus Clearout Confirmed for May, 25 Games Leaving
@Member_the_game Honestly that's pretty much exactly how I used it too:
Re: Huge PS Plus Clearout Confirmed for May, 25 Games Leaving
@Judal27 Ah my bad, my bad. 🙇
Re: Fresh PS5 Pro Report Reiterates Sony Demands for Upgraded Games
@Hamst88 Saaaaaame.
Once I hit 40 my perspectives changed on a lot of things.
I was doing those piano mission in FF VII wondering how much longer my fingers will be able for games like that.
Re: Fresh PS5 Pro Report Reiterates Sony Demands for Upgraded Games
@3Above Is it a mandate?
It all sounds optional, but necessary if you want that tag on your game.
I ask because I was hoping that they would allow the devs to make their own decisions on what way they want to upgrade their games, if at all.
Re: Huge PS Plus Clearout Confirmed for May, 25 Games Leaving
@Judal27 If you've never played a FF game before and World of FF is going to be your first experience, let me tell you that it's nothing like the main games in the series.
It's one of the many countless spin-offs that the franchise has generated over the decades.
So if you don't like it, rest assured that it's not a game by which the series should be judged.
Re: Huge PS Plus Clearout Confirmed for May, 25 Games Leaving
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, this is the main reason why I'll never use any sub service as the primary method for playing my games. If the platform holder doesn't own the IP it's never going to stay there forever.
Re: 14 More Games Land on PS Plus Extra, Premium Today
Dave the Diver and MediEvil for me.
They'll play nice on the Portal over the summer months.
Re: Prepare Yourself for Incoming Metaphor: ReFantazio Livestreams
Associated manga?
There's a manga too?
Man they really know how to get my money.
Re: Transmog System 'Doesn't Make Sense' in Helldivers 2, Says CEO
I enjoy the transmog in FF XIV and I use it all the time. I had never considered it for Helldivers though. Options are nice to have, but I can live without it.
Any light armour + the shield generator, this is still my go to setup.
Edit: Some Ratchet and Clank decals for my helmet or mech would be fun.
Re: Final Fantasy 16: The Rising Tide DLC Is Designed to Be More Challenging
@Nei I just did that yday.
It's an absolute troll of a fight.
I went into it completely unprepared, raged for a bit, then I remembered Cloud had the level 2 Elemental materia...
Re: Despite Hype, Analyst Says Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth 'Underperforming'
@naruball I have a feeling Sony will put money into it if that becomes an issue.
They definitely had funds and/or resources in the first game.
Re: Job Listing Confirms EA's Black Panther Game Is Open World
@jFug Or a good Marvel game?...
Da Dun Tss
(I jest of course. I legit loved Spidey 2.)
Re: Job Listing Confirms EA's Black Panther Game Is Open World
I think with Marvel games I'm good with whatever Insomniac cooks up. Spidey 3, Wolverine and that X-Men game they're doing would excite me, but everything else I can skip.
Re: Despite Hype, Analyst Says Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth 'Underperforming'
@AdamNovice I have to say the same. As I get in to the later chapters I really feel like I'm playing an evolved version of something from the 90s Squaresoft days.
I'm enjoying it and I'm happy that my first playthrough has taken 120 hours so far because I don't want it to end.
I can only speculate that the factors mentioned by @ShogunRok are in play here, and that the game will have legs.
We mentioned before that we'll have to wait until Christmas to get an idea of how well Dragon's Dogma, FF VII and Rise of the Ronin will have really done.