@Tymelock Uh...? Might not be smart to gloat about breaking a law. Just saying. That said, I definitely don't agree with this law. Would this also ban the Playstation Store and the Nintendo eShop as well as access to your digital games?
@Ravix Not really since if it weren't for being gifted a PS5 I never would have been able to afford one, and from the looks of it PS6 is going to be pushing $1000 USD if the PS5 Pro is anything to go by. 😮💨
@atthegates AFAIK all games will need to be available for the base PS5 as well. Sony learned from Nintendo's mistakes with the New Nintendo 3DS as most exclusives for that had abysmal sales.
@Ravix Hard disagree, the only reason this is happening is because devs are aiming for 60 FPS. If devs aimed for 30 FPS which is 100% okay for the vast majority of us, the PS5 would be a long ways away from reaching its limits even for the biggest games.
@get2sammyb I doubt that's the case, but honestly wouldn't be surprised if Sony's throwing around money to entice devs to make Pro upgrades for their PS5 titles.
@DonJorginho I would hardly say they are struggling on the system, sure they might not run at a fluid 60 FPS, but neither did the vast majority of games on the PS4.
@DonJorginho @get2sammyb @riceNpea Considering most PS5 games don't push the base PS5's hardware anywhere near its limits the PS5 Pro comes across as a money making scheme meant to milk gamers' out of a large amount of money...
@LiamCroft Not quite all of them though. PSOne, PS2, & PSP downloaded games from the Classics Collection are actually retained if they leave the service, but everything else is as you say.
Uh...the sale page was never added in NA even though the games are indeed on-sale...what gives? I literally need to use the search function on PSN to find the games in the new sale...
@ShonenJump121 Popful Mail recently released on Switch in the West, however it is the Japanese version. If that doesn't bother you it's priced at $6.49.
@nedbvai Uh...you do realize that Switch has just as many M-Rated games as PS5, and they aren't censored up the wazzoo like they are on Sony consoles...sure they might not be as "realistic", but there's plenty of M-Rated stuff on there, and tons of T-Rated stuff too.
@MightyDemon82 I'll likely get a Switch 2 at some point, but I imagine that'll be $450 minimum which will be at the top-range of what I can afford, so I might be done with Switch 2, or at least done paying full price for consoles. I imagine I could still get a Switch 3 for $500 on Black Friday, but that's WAY in the future and assuming climate change hasn't rendered half of the planet uninhabitable at that point...
@tangyzesty Switch arguably has a WAY better lineup of upcoming games. You've got to remember for a lot of us gamers in the 30+ age group we don't care about games having the best visuals, as long as they're fun. We grew up in the 8-16-bit era so we're used to playing games like that. Plus already owning a PS4 means you have access to most new releases anyways.
@NEStalgia Again exclusives would sell, but unfortunately the lack of worthwhile exclusives aside from a few outliers has caused an alarming number of people to not upgrade to the next-gen consoles...
@UltimateOtaku91 Yeah, but again those are mostly on PS4 hence why so many people still haven't upgraded. From what I've seen there isn't much overlap as a good half of PS4 owners still haven't upgraded while the PS5 numbers are good, many of the purchasers were not PS4 owners...
@anubisvel @CGesange Bear in mind that Joan of Arc was from a time period where it was a no-no for a woman to be anything, but a housewife and baby maker. Her fighting in combat "if she did" would have been buried by threatened men in that time period who were EXTREMELY bigoted. I'm a dude myself so I'm saying this more as an observer, but I've seen the way bigoted guys in modern times treat women and imagine that during Joan of Arc's time it was a multitude of times worse since women had zero rights in that era...
@IntrepidWombat Not hyperbole. The entire state of Arizona has crap internet and I'm sure many other areas in the US do. I live 30 miles from Phoenix in a city with over 125,000 population and our internet drops every few minutes and bounces between a few thousand BPS and 1 GBPS. It doesn't matter where you are in the state, the internet is just as unstable and bad...
@Stragen8 There IS a downside! Aside from places like NYC/LA NOWHERE in the US even has the internet speeds to stream modern games with ANY sort of reliability. You do that and suddenly there would be maybe 1-2 million gamers left in the US that can ACTUALLY use the new hardware. The infrastructure has barely improved here in 20 years so I doubt our market "the biggest market in the globe for the industry" will be ready to stream all games in 10-12 years.
PS+ style that also allows for downloads would be MUCH more feasible than streaming only...
@Northern_munkey Completely agree. Those who don't learn from history are destined to repeat it, so trying to erase horrible events or things that resemble said events is a great way to forget about and repeat them...
Obviously this still image isn't even that, it just looks a bit similar is all.
@Mustoe Hmm? Did @nessisonett block me? I don't mean to derail if he has, but I don't see his message at all. Anyways I'm definitely looking forward to this upcoming PS4 title!
@jorel262 I would be likely to buy a PS5 at some point if they did at least and have the sense to realize that it wouldn't be wrong for devs to drop PS4 support at this point. Unfortunately, at this point being likely past the halfway point in the PS5's life-cycle, it's seeming likely I'll skip PlayStation altogether this generation which is sad since I've purchased PS1/PS2/PS3/PS4/PSP 2000/PSTV over the years, with a traditional Vita being the only system I skipped on since I could play most Vita games "on the big screen no less" that I had interest in on my PSTV.
It's just too late for PS5 to get a good number of exclusives compared to whatever the Switch's successor will be released before the PS6 releases in 2026-2028. Switch's successor will also likely be in-line with PS4 Pro visually with the CPU and RAM being closer in-line with the Series S from what we know of the confirmed chip-set that has been leaked so once that happens Nintendo will likely get all of the major next-gen third party games until the PS6 launches making it a more attractive short to middle-term investment. Sorry for the wall of text btw lol. 🤣
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Re: 13 PS5, PS4 Games Set to Leave PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Month
@Hyena_socks Don't you mean "That CHAOS!!!"? 🤣
Re: Australia's Planned Social Media Ban to Include PSN
@Tymelock Uh...? Might not be smart to gloat about breaking a law. Just saying. That said, I definitely don't agree with this law. Would this also ban the Playstation Store and the Nintendo eShop as well as access to your digital games?
Re: Phasmophobia (PS5) - A Hilariously Horrid Co-Op Experience
@AaronBayne Unfortunate.
Re: Sony Shuts PS Studio Neon Koi without Ever Releasing a Game
@rjejr At this rate every Sony studio will be shutdown soon. 🤦
Re: Players Made Uncomfortable by Talking Palicoes as Monster Hunter Wilds PS5 Beta Goes Live
Talking Kitties is Pawesome! 😻
Re: Phasmophobia (PS5) - A Hilariously Horrid Co-Op Experience
@AaronBayne @BranJ0 I'd also like to know this. I would love some couch co-op with my mates if it's an option!
Re: Soulslike Lords of the Fallen Resurrects with 40% Higher Pixel Density on PS5 Pro
@Ravix Not really since if it weren't for being gifted a PS5 I never would have been able to afford one, and from the looks of it PS6 is going to be pushing $1000 USD if the PS5 Pro is anything to go by. 😮💨
Re: Soulslike Lords of the Fallen Resurrects with 40% Higher Pixel Density on PS5 Pro
@atthegates Ah gotcha! Makes perfect sense.
Re: Soulslike Lords of the Fallen Resurrects with 40% Higher Pixel Density on PS5 Pro
@DonJorginho I suppose I was being a bit harsh, so I edited my post.
Re: Soulslike Lords of the Fallen Resurrects with 40% Higher Pixel Density on PS5 Pro
@atthegates AFAIK all games will need to be available for the base PS5 as well. Sony learned from Nintendo's mistakes with the New Nintendo 3DS as most exclusives for that had abysmal sales.
Re: Soulslike Lords of the Fallen Resurrects with 40% Higher Pixel Density on PS5 Pro
@Ravix Hard disagree, the only reason this is happening is because devs are aiming for 60 FPS. If devs aimed for 30 FPS which is 100% okay for the vast majority of us, the PS5 would be a long ways away from reaching its limits even for the biggest games.
Re: Soulslike Lords of the Fallen Resurrects with 40% Higher Pixel Density on PS5 Pro
@DonJorginho And for 99.9% of us a few extra FPS isn't worth $800...
Re: Soulslike Lords of the Fallen Resurrects with 40% Higher Pixel Density on PS5 Pro
@get2sammyb I doubt that's the case, but honestly wouldn't be surprised if Sony's throwing around money to entice devs to make Pro upgrades for their PS5 titles.
Re: Soulslike Lords of the Fallen Resurrects with 40% Higher Pixel Density on PS5 Pro
@DonJorginho I would hardly say they are struggling on the system, sure they might not run at a fluid 60 FPS, but neither did the vast majority of games on the PS4.
Re: Soulslike Lords of the Fallen Resurrects with 40% Higher Pixel Density on PS5 Pro
@get2sammyb No, but Sony certainly does. Edited first message since it was a bit vague as to what I meant.
Re: Soulslike Lords of the Fallen Resurrects with 40% Higher Pixel Density on PS5 Pro
@DonJorginho @get2sammyb @riceNpea Considering most PS5 games don't push the base PS5's hardware anywhere near its limits the PS5 Pro comes across as a money making scheme meant to milk gamers' out of a large amount of money...
Re: Cash Rewards Still Unavailable for Millions in PS5, PS4 Rewards Scheme PS Stars
@Ken_Kaniff The activity feed on PS4 has been broken for years as well.
Re: Huge List of 18 Major Games to Leave PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Month
@LiamCroft Not quite all of them though. PSOne, PS2, & PSP downloaded games from the Classics Collection are actually retained if they leave the service, but everything else is as you say.
Re: Over 2,800 PS5, PS4 Games Score Discounts of Up to 90% Off
Uh...the sale page was never added in NA even though the games are indeed on-sale...what gives? I literally need to use the search function on PSN to find the games in the new sale...
Re: Just Three Decisions from Dragon Age: Inquisition Will Carry Over to The Veilguard
@Fartingale Your username made me chuckle. 🤣
Re: Lunar Remastered Collection Revives Two Classic 90s JRPGs on PS5, PS4 in Spring 2025
@ShonenJump121 Popful Mail recently released on Switch in the West, however it is the Japanese version. If that doesn't bother you it's priced at $6.49.
Re: 'It Felt Like Putting New Glasses On,' Claims First PS5 Pro Hands On
@Old-Red Also that blurred image is BS, games on my PS4 Slim have a higher resolution than that lol. 🤣
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
@nedbvai Uh...you do realize that Switch has just as many M-Rated games as PS5, and they aren't censored up the wazzoo like they are on Sony consoles...sure they might not be as "realistic", but there's plenty of M-Rated stuff on there, and tons of T-Rated stuff too.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
@MightyDemon82 I'll likely get a Switch 2 at some point, but I imagine that'll be $450 minimum which will be at the top-range of what I can afford, so I might be done with Switch 2, or at least done paying full price for consoles. I imagine I could still get a Switch 3 for $500 on Black Friday, but that's WAY in the future and assuming climate change hasn't rendered half of the planet uninhabitable at that point...
Re: New Fishing Mechanic the Highlight of Next No Man's Sky PS5, PS4 Update
How do you unlock the fishing log in the discoveries menu because it's definitely not there from the start...?
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Gamescom Opening Night Live 2024?
@Pushsquarian Jenshin? I think you mean Genshin.
Re: PS5's Lack of Tentpole Exclusives Isn't Hurting Engagement, Says Sony
@tangyzesty Switch arguably has a WAY better lineup of upcoming games. You've got to remember for a lot of us gamers in the 30+ age group we don't care about games having the best visuals, as long as they're fun. We grew up in the 8-16-bit era so we're used to playing games like that. Plus already owning a PS4 means you have access to most new releases anyways.
Re: PS5's Lack of Tentpole Exclusives Isn't Hurting Engagement, Says Sony
@NEStalgia Again exclusives would sell, but unfortunately the lack of worthwhile exclusives aside from a few outliers has caused an alarming number of people to not upgrade to the next-gen consoles...
Re: PS5's Lack of Tentpole Exclusives Isn't Hurting Engagement, Says Sony
@UltimateOtaku91 Yeah, but again those are mostly on PS4 hence why so many people still haven't upgraded. From what I've seen there isn't much overlap as a good half of PS4 owners still haven't upgraded while the PS5 numbers are good, many of the purchasers were not PS4 owners...
Re: Jeanne d'Arc (PSP) - Long Awaited Strategy RPG Remains Divine
@anubisvel @CGesange Bear in mind that Joan of Arc was from a time period where it was a no-no for a woman to be anything, but a housewife and baby maker. Her fighting in combat "if she did" would have been buried by threatened men in that time period who were EXTREMELY bigoted. I'm a dude myself so I'm saying this more as an observer, but I've seen the way bigoted guys in modern times treat women and imagine that during Joan of Arc's time it was a multitude of times worse since women had zero rights in that era...
Re: Jeanne d'Arc (PSP) - Long Awaited Strategy RPG Remains Divine
@Khayl Fun fact! Cuisses the frog actually appeared in Rogue Galaxy as well.
Re: EXILEDGE Is a Larger Than Life PS5 Shooter with Some Impressive Production Values
Anyone else notice every game coming to PS5 and not PS4 is either live service or a shooter?...
Re: No Man's Sky: Worlds Part I Responsible for Nearly 500% Increase in PS5, PS4 Players
@Khayl "Were you one among the money who returned to No Man's Sky in the past week?" So we're money? I think you meant "Many". 🤣
Re: Iconic PSP Tactics RPG Jeanne d'Arc Has a Platinum on PS5, PS4
@get2sammyb None of this month's games are available in North America yet...
Re: Forgotten PS2 Launch RPG Summoner Resurrected for PS5, PS4
@naruball Good gameplay never gets too outdated. It's more that a lot of people only like new shiny things.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 535
@FOXHOUND_MGS5 Megaton Musashi W: Wired for Switch here! Such an AMAZING game!
Re: PS5, PS4's New PS2 Emulator Fails to Pass Tech Test
Weird since all the PS2 games on PS4 that I have run perfectly fine. The only issues being things I dealt with on the OG hardware...
Re: PlayStation Likely to Go All-Digital By PS7, Analyst Predicts
@IntrepidWombat Not hyperbole. The entire state of Arizona has crap internet and I'm sure many other areas in the US do. I live 30 miles from Phoenix in a city with over 125,000 population and our internet drops every few minutes and bounces between a few thousand BPS and 1 GBPS. It doesn't matter where you are in the state, the internet is just as unstable and bad...
Re: PlayStation Likely to Go All-Digital By PS7, Analyst Predicts
@Stragen8 There IS a downside! Aside from places like NYC/LA NOWHERE in the US even has the internet speeds to stream modern games with ANY sort of reliability. You do that and suddenly there would be maybe 1-2 million gamers left in the US that can ACTUALLY use the new hardware. The infrastructure has barely improved here in 20 years so I doubt our market "the biggest market in the globe for the industry" will be ready to stream all games in 10-12 years.
PS+ style that also allows for downloads would be MUCH more feasible than streaming only...
Re: Unsurprisingly, There Seems to Be a New Tales Game in Development
@ShogunRok I love how many skills and arts you can unlock including fusion arts with the open-ended skill system Symphonia has.
Re: War Thunder Dev Apologises After Challenger Space Shuttle Disaster Imagery Surfaces
@Northern_munkey Completely agree. Those who don't learn from history are destined to repeat it, so trying to erase horrible events or things that resemble said events is a great way to forget about and repeat them...
Obviously this still image isn't even that, it just looks a bit similar is all.
Re: Hands On: Metaphor: ReFantazio Is Already a Contender for RPG of the Year
@ShogunRok @AlanaHagues Is the MC a girl or guy? I honestly can't tell from the screenshots lol. In any case this game looks phenomenal! 🤓
Re: Civilization 7 Announced for PS5 and PS4, Out in 2025
@Mustoe Hmm? Did @nessisonett block me? I don't mean to derail if he has, but I don't see his message at all. Anyways I'm definitely looking forward to this upcoming PS4 title!
Re: Civilization 7 Announced for PS5 and PS4, Out in 2025
Honestly shocked by the PS4 version, but in a good way. Will definitely purchase this at some point!
Re: CD Projekt Red Wants to Release Major Games More Frequently
@Enuo Yeah it's CD Projekt Red working their developers nearly to the point of collapsing lol, the crunch as they say will be real. 🤪
Re: SEGA 'Flat Out Rejected' Initial Pitches for Yakuza/Like a Dragon
@Khayl Was Sega management high lol? I mean House of The Dead clearly isn't family friendly yet was released before Yakuza. 🤡
Re: Yes, the Next Madden on PS5, PS4 Is Called Madden NFL 25 Again
@QiaraIris God of War on PS4 is sort of a reboot of the GoW series, but has the same exact name as the first game in the series.
Re: A Lot of PS4 Owners Have Yet to Upgrade to PS5
@DennisReynolds Ah gotcha!
@Savage_Joe He's talking about Lords of The Fallen.
Re: A Lot of PS4 Owners Have Yet to Upgrade to PS5
@jorel262 I would be likely to buy a PS5 at some point if they did at least and have the sense to realize that it wouldn't be wrong for devs to drop PS4 support at this point. Unfortunately, at this point being likely past the halfway point in the PS5's life-cycle, it's seeming likely I'll skip PlayStation altogether this generation which is sad since I've purchased PS1/PS2/PS3/PS4/PSP 2000/PSTV over the years, with a traditional Vita being the only system I skipped on since I could play most Vita games "on the big screen no less" that I had interest in on my PSTV.
It's just too late for PS5 to get a good number of exclusives compared to whatever the Switch's successor will be released before the PS6 releases in 2026-2028. Switch's successor will also likely be in-line with PS4 Pro visually with the CPU and RAM being closer in-line with the Series S from what we know of the confirmed chip-set that has been leaked so once that happens Nintendo will likely get all of the major next-gen third party games until the PS6 launches making it a more attractive short to middle-term investment. Sorry for the wall of text btw lol. 🤣
Re: A Lot of PS4 Owners Have Yet to Upgrade to PS5
@themightyant You are missing your own point as well as people can have multiple active accounts on the PS5 too. 🤪